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See also Wikipedia talk:Cleanup process.

Project page organization

The main project page has been updated with a members section, resources section and template section. Northamerica1000(talk) 08:47, 11 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup taskforce

You might consider merging the inactive WP:Cleanup taskforce into your group. See WP:INACTIVEWP for information. Also, you should probably create a redirect here from WP:WikiProject Cleanup so that more people can find you, and also list your group at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/Wikipedia#Maintenance. WhatamIdoing (talk) 05:55, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure how I can help ... but would like to be a part of the initiative Salil Kumar 18:24, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Cleanup categories merger proposals

I noticed an overlap in cleanup categories, so I proposed that Category:All articles needing cleanup be merged into Category:All pages needing cleanup and that Category:Wikipedia pages needing cleanup be merged into Category:Articles needing cleanup.

Thoughts? Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 March 2

CoolieCoolster (talk) 01:31, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Basically the cleanup categories need some cleaning up themselves. SpiritedMichelle (talk) 02:04, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Articles with incorrect citation syntax

(Moved this general post below here from Wikipedia:Cleanup). North America1000 15:04, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

New ways to Promote WP:CLEAN

Copied from User talk:Northamerica1000

I have been noticing that "Project Cleanup" has only two prominent editors to it. You and I. Project Cleanup is supported to be a place where wikipedians can post articles that they think need cleaning up but it seems the only people posting new articles are you and I. I looked back at the archive and it seemed at some points, many wikipedians were posting on Project Cleanup.

I do not want this project to die out like others are.

Do you think there are anymore ways of promoting people to put submissions on the page? Could you try to put more advertisement up on the maintenance page like "Post your project to cleanup" I think that if more people saw banners, we would have more participation.

One idea I had was to have a bot dump random articles(preferably older) from "Category:Articles needing cleanup" maybe weekly. A dump system would give us many articles to cleanup and would help us reduce the backlog of cleanup templates.

I hope you can help benefit Project Cleanup. Keep up the good work. AmericanAir88 (talk) 21:15, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hey chaps, I'd like to help, too. Hit me up. A Traintalk 13:17, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Discussion

  • @AmericanAir88 and A Train: After thinking matters over, I'm against the cleanup list being populated by a bot. Human-picked entries are more personal in nature, and these articles are actually viewed by humans. Also, use of a bot could have the reverse of the intended effect, driving people away, who may feel that bot-generated entries are impersonal, or that they would then just go to various cleanup categories.
  • Here are some ideas to promote the project:
  1. I agree with including wording that promotes the posting of entries on the project's main page, and this could potentially be added to Wikipedia:Maintenance in a brief manner somehow.
  2. The main project page's lead could be rewritten to be more concise, and the area to post entries could be made more obvious. An idea is to place revised (more concise) intro content into a {{sidebar}}, so that the first actual content on the page's body is the actual listings and posting area. This would make the page much more accessible for posting and immediately seeing entries. At the very least, this would make the page easier to navigate.
  3. Send {{WikiProject Cleanup invitation}}s to users who engage in cleanup activities to join the project, using {{subst:WikiProject Cleanup invitation}}.
  4. Contact present project members on their talk pages via mass messenging, stating general news, encouraging posts, and inviting people to check in on the page every now and then. A newsletter could be created to perform this.
  5. Maybe contact users who have dated posts on the page to consider withdrawing the respective dated nominations. If a post is over a year old and has received no work from the project, it may sit for quite some time, creating a permanent backlog of entries on the page that are never addressed. This can make the project look stale.
  6. Maybe consider archiving posts that are dated over a year, stating so on the main project page.
  7. Possibly include a very short mention on the {{Cleanup}} template about the option to post to the page.
  • Note that I'm on semi-wikibreak right now due to other matters in life. I can likely perform some of the above, but cannot guarantee having time to perform all of it. I think revising the lead and moving some content to a sidebar would be a good starting point. North America1000 09:07, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Northamerica1000: @Northamerica1000: These are fantastic ideas. I will get right on it. Thank you. I do ask how we can drive people to the page. We need to use words that tell people that you can post your articles on the page and they will be cleaned up. We need to see more people posting on the page. Have any suggestions? You are an administrator, any way to promote with others or on big pages like the community portal? I was thinking maybe say on the portal "Post pages that need cleanup on WP:CLEAN." or something. Comment with any additional ideas. Thank you for your participation. Enjoy your semi-wikibreak, I hope all goes well in life. AmericanAir88 (talk) 02:22, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @AmericanAir88 and A Train: Regarding point #2 above, I have modified the main project page. In the process, I have moved and consolidated information to simplify the page and designed the page so posts are located directly below the page headers. Here is some of the work performed:
– North America1000 07:23, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • @AmericanAir88 and A Train: (and anyone else interested): I propose that entries over a year old on the main project page should be archived. If nobody works on a posted article for a year, it may never receive edits from project members or others that visit this page. This will serve to keep the page current, as opposed to having a permanent unnecessary backlog. North America1000 08:08, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I think that's a great idea, Northamerica1000; the backlog for a project like this could be theoretically infinite, and long backlogs are intimidating. A Traintalk 08:13, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Question

I just received an invitation to join this project. I had never seen it before, so was interested. I'm just curious what the difference between this project and TAFI is. Are there articles that would be more appropriate for one and not the other?  – Corinne (talk) 18:09, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think there are more than enough articles for there to be multiple projects focused on improving them. That said, I am curious how many of the articles listed on User:power~enwiki can/should be added here. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:19, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Corinne: This is where users can post articles they feel need work. Users who are part of the project will then cleanup the article. It is different to TAFI as for TAFI, you have to nominate it where as for Project Cleanup you can post and get instant feedback. Project Cleanup members also can help reduce the backlog of articles that need cleanup, via maintenance tags. Honestly, I prefer WP:CLEAN as it is way more active and provides all types of support to articles. I wish TAFI was more active... Its starting to become abandoned. AmericanAir88 (talk) 00:22, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Tidy replacement

Hi everyone. I noticed there's new traffic around this WP project: good luck! I thought I might suggest an area where you could join forces with WP:WikiProject Check Wikipedia, maybe?

You may be aware that the Parsing team wants to replace Tidy with a RemexHTML-based solution on the Wikimedia cluster by June 2018. This will require editors to fix pages and templates to address wikitext patterns that behave differently with RemexHTML. Please see the "What editors will need to do" section on the Tidy replacement FAQ. We have tried to make the instructions as plain as possible so that anyone could figure out what to do. Also, mw:Help:Extension:Linter#Tools is a place to collect scripts/tools/anything that's helpful - you don't need to apply fixes manually, unless you want to! Work is ongoing, but operations seem to go a bit slowly at this wiki, which is a bit surprising when you consider it's the largest community. More specifically, it looks like people are starting to fix the issues in the low priority categories, rather than in the high ones :)

Please do ping (User:SSastry (WMF)) if you have any questions or concerns, ideas about how to get more people involved here or communications venues we haven't explored yet. Here's a link to the latest update he provided on wikitech-l, and to some of the most recent stats available. We hope this helps, and are looking forward to your crucial support! Elitre (WMF) (talk) 15:53, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A metric to warm your heart and sustain your editing

{{notice|{{Graph:PageViews|365}}|heading=Daily page views |center=y |image=Open data small color.png}} I've been putting that on some of the talk pages of articles I've worked on. Gives you a feel for the utility of your efforts. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:23, 28 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A couple of useful tools

Hi everyone! I was recently invited to this project. I have a couple of tools that I made a while ago that some of the editors here might find useful:

Hope these are useful! Enterprisey (talk!) 21:08, 29 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

George Mandel

This article needs a lot cleanup, it is very disorganized, and has a few edits by somebody claiming to be his daughter. The one about him serving in ww2 is at least partly correct, I was able to find his enlistment record (https://aad.archives.gov/aad/record-detail.jsp?dt=893&mtch=3&cat=all&tf=F&q=Mandel+George&bc=&rpp=10&pg=1&rid=2841531&rlst=2841531,3875337,5779849), but have no idea how to fix the overall article — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:6000:1209:809A:7917:657F:8F12:F348 (talk) 06:23, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

RfC notice

There is an RfC at one of the cleanup templates in scope of this project, Template talk:COI, proposing changes to the conditions whereby the template may be removed for lack of discussion. --RexxS (talk) 19:58, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Question

What is wrong with the article 2011 Samsung Mobile 500.ping to reply.Kpgjhpjm (talk) 15:50, 16 May 2018 (UTC) Kpgjhpjm (talk) 15:50, 16 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not much - now done. Johnbod (talk) 16:36, 16 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User box

Is there a user box for this group? A 10 iceplane (talk) 15:41, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

{{WikiProject Cleanup userbox}} There ya go :) --LichWizard talk 16:23, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
that as simple,ci feel stupid, thank you LichWizard for your help A 10 iceplane (talk) 16:45, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, glad I could help! --LichWizard talk 17:26, 23 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hatnote

Should a Redirect hatnote be added since WP:CLEAN redirects here and may also refer to Wikipedia:Clean start? Tantamounts talk contribs 10:59, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please solve Comment: Possible sockpuppet issues

This user is a member of
WikiProject Cleanup.

how can i solve Possible sockpuppet issues of this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Rinky_Chakma if any one can please solve it Juni Mor 07:29, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Impressed and news

Hello WP Cleanup personel. @Northamerica1000:, @Tinton5:, @Rosalina2427:, etc. :

I am writing this to tell everyone how impressed I am with the work this project has received. As we reach the end of summer, we can expect more school IP vandals and cleanup requests to flow in. Great job everyone, its been a pleasure working with you guys, especially Northamerica1000. Lets continue this trend of fast and efficiant cleanup/work.

Anyone have any ideas on how we can promote this project more? It would be great having more active users and a good flow of requests. Once again I am very proud of you guys. Excellent work everyone. I am looking forward to a good fall season. I am going to Vegas for a week but will try be as active as possible. Enjoy yourselves and keep up the good work. AmericanAir88 (talk) 23:54, 17 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@AmericanAir88: I've been wondering about that as well – I wasn't aware of this WikiProject until just a month or two ago. As a few of you mentioned back in the October discussion above, sending invitations to non-members and posting on active members' talk pages are good ideas, and potentially could increase the amount of work we're getting done here. I'd also suggest a monthly newsletter of some sort (which articles need work, which have been improved well, etc.), if it isn't too time consuming. I'll be returning to school in a few weeks so my time on Wikipedia will be limited during the semester, so I'd like to see more involvement with clearing the posts on the list as well! Rosalina2427 (talk to me) 03:49, 18 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Bot Request to Cleanup Category:Featured articles needing translation from <language>

A bot request has been recently created to clean up articles that no longer have FA status on their host Wikipedia page from Category:Featured articles needing translation from <language>. Any comments would be appreciated. Kadane (talk) 18:26, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alignment

In the template page, a lot of overlapping cases have occurred. Please consider the problem and solve it if it can be done.Adithyak1997 (talk) 15:58, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Adithyak1997: What do you mean by "overlapping cases"? Is this about the page alignment? The page looks fine in my browser. North America1000 23:47, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Protection

I think that this page should have more strict protection considering its importance, as it was severely vandalized recently. Syntaxlord (talk) 01:35, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request to Add to List

Hey there, requesting this be added to the list :)

Norra Sorgenfri - Requesting Speedy Deletion to this Page as it is a Stub, Lacks Citations, and doesn't have much information. Please let me know if it doesn't qualify for Speedy Deletion! Thanks, AwesomeJedi (talk) 17:16, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

​Pages are automatically added to the correct categories by adding cleanup templates to them. The page also does not qualify for speedy deletion. – Thjarkur (talk) 17:33, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
​ Thanks, appreciate it! Sincerely, AwesomeJedi (talk) 17:36, 8 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request to add Sing (2016 American film)

Sing (2016 American film)

Someone messed up the infobox, I can't add it the the main page since I have a new account and I am unsure as to how to fix it myself. Thanks.

Semi-protected edit request on 26 January 2020

Please add the following line to the top of the January 2020 list, except formatted correctly:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load-bearing_wall - Construction / Architectural element. Article had has only had one citation since 2009, the description contains a direct copy and paste of the leading paragraph (including formatting), and the whole thing probably needs to be given a good looking-over. TheJonyMyster (talk) 04:55, 26 January 2020 (UTC) TheJonyMyster (talk) 04:55, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 19:18, 26 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you TheJonyMyster (talk) 05:36, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 23 February 2020

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:R._J._Atkins need help with wording Cee Smooth (talk) 17:39, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Your request has been added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Can I Log In (talk • contribs) 22:44, 23 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 5 March 2020

Please may you review Henrietta Bowden-Jones - the page contains the banner "This article may have been created or edited in return for undisclosed payments" which is incorrect, please may you resolve this issue or inform me of any actions that need to be taken to do so. Thank you very much Frankieatkinson (talk) 12:35, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page Wikipedia:Cleanup. Please make your request at the talk page for the article concerned. JTP (talk • contribs) 14:02, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Does this Wikiproject incorporate backlog agendas?

So, I was half thinking of creating a Wikiproject dealing with backlogs. However, with prompting from Moxy, I decided to first ask if this project dealt with backlogs. So, does WP:Cleanup also help clear backlogs? Thanks, King of Scorpions 16:33, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@King of Scorpions : I think "this project does anything people bring to it, and nothing else" is a fair description. We help clear backlogs only by working on pages that are posted on the project page. Kind regards from PJvanMill (talk) 14:18, 7 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Otorhinolaryngology

Need help in editing Otorhinolaryngology Science vol (talk) 15:02, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2020

Could you please take a look at this page for a cleanup request? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Olivier_Varenne#Career Jasonhogarth (talk) 10:52, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Jasonhogarth:, it’s a good start but you need to double the size of the article in my opinion. Add an Early life and education section, maybe a Personal life section. Gleeanon409 (talk) 11:37, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: This is not the appropriate place to request this. Also, please note the article has already been refused four times. Goldsztajn (talk) 11:42, 17 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 20 April 2020

Serafim Kalliadasis Migduroliuk (talk) 22:12, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP (talk • contribs) 22:41, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Migduroliuk:, I think you’ll have to get a bit lucky to find someone who can help unearth how Serafim Kalliadasis is WP:Notable by Wikipedia standards and express that in the lead of the article. I think your best bet is to identify the Wikiproject(s) that know the profession of the subject, and ask them to help point a path forward. You can also ask for help at the WP:Teahouse. Gleeanon409 (talk) 23:20, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2020

Frenzo Harami - Sources need to be rescued as they are susceptible to being lost via domain changes etc and by the looks of the deletion discussion it is going to be draftified.  Apollo825  - talk to me baby - 15:46, 25 April 2020 (UTC)  Apollo825 [reply]

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. You may be interested in Archive.org as it is used to deal with stuff like that a lot. DarthFlappy (talk) 16:31, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Apollo825:, you might ask for help at the WP:Teahouse for filling out each of the references. Once they are full references it’s easier to find them even if the domain changes. Gleeanon409 (talk) 16:44, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Confused with COI cleanup

Consensus is for the this project to reject work for conflict of interest (COI) issues and for the project to reject requests for additional references to be added to articles. I have copy edited the introduction of the portal at Template:Wikipedia:Cleanup/Header to reflect this (diff) and have removed the link to this project from Template:COI (diff) and Template:Undisclosed paid (diff) per this change of project policy. North America1000 15:57, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.




The header for WikiProject Cleanup, makes no mention of cleanup for COI issues. The COI templates have links that bring users straight to "Cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies".

I've seen editors (including me) say here that this project is not for cleaning COI issues.

So, Northamerica1000, or Tinton5, or Rosalina2427, which is it? Thank you! -- WILDSTARtalk 02:29, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • @WildStar: I think COI cleanup should be referred to WP:GOCER. Otherwise, any and all copy editing an article may need could eventually be placed on the cleanup listing page, diluting the focus of this project, turning it into a general edit request page. North America1000 02:33, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nb. See the new thread I've started below as well regarding sourcing. North America1000 02:40, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • As I said below, I think the project header should say "We are not willing to get involved in ongoing disputes". I think these two templates should not be directing people to us. I think the links should simply be removed; I kind of feel like they were put in there by someone who thought WP:Cleanup is an instruction page on how to clean up an article. PJvanMill (talk) 13:23, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Should this project change its focus to not include sourcing, as in adding references, citations, etc.?

The header of the project states, "This project covers cleanup issues including page layout, wikification, spelling, grammar and typographical errors, tone, and sourcing (bold emphasis mine). However, the Template:Cleanup template has nothing about adding references, sources, citations, etc. I think the project should omit requests for the addition of sources from the project's scope. I have noticed that cleanup requests for more sources in articles may not result in the action being performed. By reducing the project's scope a bit in this manner, we can focus more upon the other aspects of cleanup, and perhaps have a lessened backlog as well. I feel that reference cleanup is fine, such as fixing bare urls, standardizing reference formatting, etc., but that the project should not include requests for additional sources. North America1000 02:40, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support changing "and sourcing" on the project's header to "source formatting". North America1000 02:41, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support "source formatting", although I don't mind rescuing sources which I think may fall under "and sourcing"... ie: going to archives to rescue citations? I have an issue with COI though. They can quickly entangle a good faith editor in an ongoing dispute. If possible, I'd like to see some wording emphasizing that we don't do COI, in the header, and possibly removing the references to Cleanup in the two COI templates above. Thank you. -- WILDSTARtalk 03:27, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would support this change as well. I'm new to Wikipedia, but I have already found that I like cleaning up issues with grammar, formatting, and existing sourcing. I have no interest in adding sources, and virtually none in removing them (unless the change would present itself to me as obvious and necessary). Triethylborane (talk) 03:31, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support changing the wording to "source formatting", BUT I do think that the header will need more refinement after this. Cleaning up generally does not involve adding new references, but it can involve looking at the sources to fix unclear citations. I also think we should add "neutrality issues, excessive detail and readability issues" which are things we do and will keep doing - they kind of fall under tone but also not. And, in line with WildStar, I think the header should clearly state that we are not willing to get involved in ongoing disputes do requests for COI drafts, or on requests for COI articles that are submitted by the author with a COI. PJvanMill (talk) 13:14, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support changing "sourcing to "source formatting." Adding references goes beyond cleanup with the addition of new references. The addition of new/additional references boarders on article expansion and authoring. I agree with PJvanMill about adding "neutrality issues, excessive detail and readability issues" as these are frequent issues clean up editors already address. Source trimming in cases with excessive amounts; or those with questionable sources per WP:reliable can continue to fall under general clean up. ThinkHat (talk) 14:31, 13 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Sometimes I add the refs on my own to the articles with 'more citation needed' however I don't think researching is clean up. Also agree with WildStar on COI. This could be tricky.Less Unless (talk) 15:23, 14 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support adding sources could be optional. I also suggest to clearly state that this project is not for cleaning up or improving drafts and COI contributions (as this theme pops up quite often). --Bbarmadillo (talk) 16:06, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I like cleaning up, but i don't think adding citations will come under it. Andcentra (talk) 05:10, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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