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Biryani versus Pulao

I have removed the paragraph in the etymology section talking about vegetarian biryani and pulao as it does not belong there. There is already an extensive section talking about the difference between biryani and pulao, which led to inconsistency in this article with that extra paragraph in the etymology section. I also had it's only source as an opinion piece done only just a few months ago with no actual factual evidence for the claim. I'm perfectly fine with people saying veg biryani is not biryani, but if you're going to put that in the article you need a factual source rather than a source that is just an opinion. It also needs to be in the proper section. The etymology section is there to explain the origin of the word, not to advance personal opinions. 75.107.198.169 (talk) 18:56, 20 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Biryani origin

Biryani is an Urdu word derived from the Persian language, which was used as an official language in different parts of medieval India, by various Islamic dynasties. One theory is that it originates from birinj, the Persian word for rice. Another is that it derives from biryan or beriyan, to fry or roast. During the Safavid dynasty (1501–1736) in Persia, a dish called Berian Pilao (Nastaliq script: بریان پلو‎) was made with lamb or chicken, marinated overnight – with yogurt, herbs, spices, dried fruits like raisins, prunes or pomegranate seeds – and later cooked in a tannour oven. It was then served with steamed rice. Clearly Biryani was cooked in the kitchens of the Persianized Muslim dynasties of Northern region of South Asia. All regions developed their own varieties depending on their regional tastes. Some people want to emphasize South Indian origin in this article which is historiaclly incorrect. Centaur17 (talk) 19:07, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

i dont think there existed any such dish in persia or safavid dynasty and nor the farsi wikipedia tries to claim one, because the modern biryani dish in iran involves cooking with the bread, do you have any persian manuscript reference, if such a dish was cooked, secondly where is the proof that it was not just an indian version adopted in safavid period and not vice versa. any historical evidence which predates this dish from indian biryani? 115.135.130.182 (talk) 14:23, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free to make these assertions with a reliable source. utcursch | talk 20:18, 8 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Biriyani is originated in Ancient Tamilakam.Ancient Sangam Literature has mentioned the Biriyani. Skylark95choppen (talk) 15:40, 16 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Expect more edits related to the origins. Expect muddling between the origin of the dish and the (claimed) origin of the word. The Twitter University bots are coming!!! They will base it on a few tweets by TrueIndology (@TIinExile) that were posted an hour ago. - 124.123.105.127 (talk) 10:59, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Biryani and Muslims.

All sources in this article mention the origin of Biryani among the Muslims of the Indian subcontinent. It is crucially important to mention this FACT, I don't understand why this is an issue? And no one is mentioning "Islam", Muslims are a community, Islam is a religion. Hammad.511234 (talk) 04:03, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]


-- which source is giving copyright of biryani to muslims? this is ridiculous --Adamstraw99 (talk) 06:53, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adamstraw99 How about you read the sourced material before you undo a properly sourced and accepted claim.... Hammad.511234 (talk) 22:10, 12 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

hey Hammad.511234 , I know your emotional attachments to the word muslim and your numerous attempts on your POV pushing in this and several other articles which are close to your heart (i.e. hyderabadi muslim article etc. etc. ) ..but sadly, Indian subcontinent is a better description according to me ..thanks -- Adamstraw99 (talk) 11:58, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adamstraw99 There are no emotional attachments involved, it's not even a pov. It's a fact, that is mentioned in all the articles sourced. It's not about what a better description is to you, it's about what the source says, you're pushing your pov by ignoring a fact mentioned in the source. Hammad.511234 (talk) 17:22, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

oho Hammad.511234, when did i push any POV in this article?? i hardly edit this article.... but going by the history of this article, it appears you are hell-bent on POV that its origins are "muslim" Adamstraw99 (talk) 17:33, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adamstraw99 It's origins are among the Muslims of South Asia.... That's a fact, and it has been sourced properly. You said "Indian subconintnent is a better description," the thing is,you are discrediting an entire community by doing so. When all sources are cohesive in their understanding of the dish's origins, why do you feel something else is a "better description"? Hammad.511234 (talk) 17:50, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"spicy rice"

Is this name supposed to be a translation of Biryani? Or is it another name? Hammad.511234 (talk) 00:07, 25 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

From persian wikipedia

"Biryani is a popular dish in south of BaluchestanSistan and Baluchestan Province and in BastakBastak,Hormozgan ProvinceHormozgan Province and has been served in celebrations and gathering to guests." I translated and added this from persian wikipedia off the same article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.119.80.219 (talk) 08:11, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

NOT made by Muslims

Biryani was in India before Islam or Muslims even came to India through the evil Mughal Empire! Therefore, the credit of Biryani should NOT go to Muslims. Either to Persians, or to the Indians, it should go to!

Stop spreading fake news which spreads tensions in India!

Stop associating it with a religion that did not even invent it. The Indian Subcontinent is responsible for it, before the Muslims even entered that subcontinent! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakyra (talk • contribs)

The cited source says differently. Where is the source that supports your viewpoint? - MrOllie (talk) 16:43, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The cited sources are NOT historical sources! You have no historical sources because it does not support your Islamophobic narrative! - Rakyra
I repeat the question by MrOllie - what reliable sources are you basing your statement on? - Arjayay (talk) 17:04, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What reliable HISTORICAL sources are YOU basing your statement on? First answer that and I will give my sources - Rakyra
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