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A better start

than the previous version. To do, quickly:

  • more cites to mainstream media coverage - anything with a couple of paragraphs at least
  • remove the cites to crypto blogs (not accepted at WP:RSN)
  • remove the Forbes contributor blogs

The threat model here is AFD - the second and third points will go very badly in a deletion discussion - David Gerard (talk) 21:59, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@David Gerard:, thank you for your pointers and for deleting undesirable references. Any further comments are very welcome.
I moved the page back to draft; three sources, out of four, are: "Monetary Policy - Cardano". Cardano Settlement Layer Documentation; "Cardano Foundation". cardanofoundation.org; "Cardano Monetary Policy – Cardano Settlement Layer Documentation". cardanodocs.com. -- ?? --K.e.coffman (talk) 00:50, 21 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
K.e.coffman, thank you for moving it to draft and for your input. All primary references are now removed. --FlippyFlink (talk) 09:36, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As stated on my User talk:FlippyFlink I am not paid or compensated to contribute to this article. I also was not asked to start this article. Information security and crypto are one of my favorite topics. So I created several related pages in the English Wikipedia and Dutch Wikipedia.

My apologies for the recreation mess a few weeks ago. Upto now I didn't know the draft procedure existed. The article was deleted after several months and I recreated it too quickly. Then I didn't notice that David Gerard moved the article to draft, so when I saved my last edit, the article was accidentally recreated again - and speedy deleted. Then ProgrammingGeek renamed and moved my personal sandbox live on 20 December 2018 and that was moved (back) again to this current draft version. David Gerard gave me some pointers on how to improve this article. That was and is much appreciated. Out of Cardano (platform) and Ada (cryptocurrency I like Cardano (cryptocurrency platform) the most.

The last time I listed Cardano at articles for creation it got speedy deleted, so I asked several members for a pre review. I realized moving the talks here is more transparent, so everyone can give input.

Any help on creating a worthy Wikipedia article is greatly appreciated :-) --FlippyFlink (talk) 10:36, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

The following sources are certainly not reliable:

These sources cannot be used. BenKuykendall (talk) 15:55, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@BenKuykendall:, Thank you for your input. I took your advice and removed/changed the links. I removed the cardanowiki. I also removed the eprint/treasury link and found the corresponding pdf, but think the summary treasury link I also found is easier for the general public. And I replaced the Yahoo link.
@FlippyFlink:. Looks like an improvement. Another inappropriate source:
There are also some errors in the citations (though the sources themselves appear ok):
  • The Grigore Rosu source should be cited as a journal article from FSCD 2018, not a webpage on the U Illinois website.
  • Similarly, the Badertscher et al source should be cited as a SIGSAC journal article.
  • The Sankei Shimbun source should link to the original website, not to Google Translate. (Wikipedia does not require sources to be in English.)
All the best, BenKuykendall (talk) 22:48, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@BenKuykendall:, Thanks again. I incorporated all your feedback and removed openaccessgovernment.org & replaced illinois.edu = FSCD & replaced University of Edinburgh = ACM SIGSAC & removed Japanese translation. --FlippyFlink (talk) 22:12, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I checked out the 11 sources cited in Feb 2019.

1. "Cardano: a rising cryptocurrency". Mashable. 24 February 2018. Retrieved 25 December 2018. Cardano claims it will solve most of the issues that plague well-established cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin and Ethereum Argument for validity: Mashable is widely referenced and has its own Wikipedia page. A search in Wikipedia on “Mashable” produces 2,977 results. It is used as a reference for several cryptocurrency-related pages, including: Mazacoin, Bitcoin Gold, Bitcoin ATM, Satoshi, Circle, BIPS, Craig Steven Wright, Payu Harris. 2. ^ "ICOs explained". CNBC. 6 October 2017. Retrieved 25 December2018. ethereum co-founder Charles Hoskinson says it has become increasingly more challenging to regulate this new asset class" and "ICO market could crash. Argument for validity: CNBC is widely referenced and has its own Wikipedia page. A search in Wikipedia on “CNBC” produces 7,551 results. Hoskinson is one of the founders of Ada/Cardano-maker IOHK and two other coins. He is mentioned on 3 other pages. 3. ^ Jump up to:a b "Ouroboros at Eurorypt 2018". Nasdaq. 2 May 2018. Retrieved 25 December 2018. Only one in five papers that are submitted get accepted after going through a months-long, peer-review process, where experts in the field scrutinize the work to determine its suitability for the conference Argument for validity: Nasdaq.com is widely referenced. A search in Wikipedia on “Nasdaq.com” gives 524 results, including the page about Nasdaq 4. ^ "Formal Design, Implementation and Verification of Blockchain Languages". International Conference on Formal Structures for Computation and Deduction (FSCD). Grigore Rosu. 1 July 2018. Retrieved 25 December 2018. a testnet on Cardano in Summer 2018 to test this hypothesis in a real-world setting" and "One of the major lessons we learned during the EVM formalization effort was that EVM can be improved along various dimensions, improvements that could make both implementations and smart contract verification easier and faster. Instead of doing so, we preferred to design and implement a new virtual machine, IELE Argument for validity:this links to a page at Illinois University where the author, Grigore Rosu, is a professor of computer science. He has a h index of 52 with 10,100 citations at Google Scholar. His company, Runtime Verification, is a label for 10 academics at GScholar, with a combined 60,000 citations. 5. ^ "Blockchain believers hold fast to a utopian vision". Financial Times. 27 January 2018. Archived from the original on 19 December 2018. Retrieved 25 December 2018. A mathematician, Mr Hoskinson believes blockchain has the potential to reduce society’s need for banks" and "working with a global group of academics" and "freely available online for other developers to use. Argument for validity: The FT is a leading global newspaper. 6. ^ "Ouroboros Genesis: Composable Proof-of-Stake Blockchains with Dynamic Availability (the paper)". Association for Computing MachinerySpecial Interest Group Security Audit and Control (ACM SIGSAC). 15 October 2018. Retrieved 25 December 2018. which is implemented as part of the Cardano blockchain Argument for validity: this links to a research page at Edinburgh University, ranked in the top 40 institutions for computer science. The page cites the article’s publication in the Proceedings of the 2018 ACM SIGSAC Conference on Computer and Communications Security. The ACM is mentioned 9,933 times by Wikipedia 7. ^ "Bitcoin's Smaller Cousins". Bloomberg L.P. 20 December 2017. Archived from the original on 26 June 2018. Retrieved 25 December2018. Cardano, backed by the Zug, Switzerland-based Cardano Foundation, is a decentralized public blockchain that aims to protect user privacy, while also allowing for regulation Argument for validity: Bloomberg L.P. is a reliable source: mentioned 2,573 times by Wikipedia 8. ^ "Sidechains: Why These Researchers Think They Solved a Key Piece of the Puzzle". Bitcoin Magazine. 19 February 2018. Retrieved 25 December 2018. move tokens across blockchains and, as a result, open the doors to a world of possibilities, including building bridges to the legacy financial systems of banks Argument for validity: Bitcoin Magazine is a weak source. However, it is one of the longest-established cryptocurrency titles and is mentioned on 76 Wikipedia pages 9. ^ "Will that smart contract really do what you expect it to do?". Netherlands Organisation for Applied Scientific Research. January 2018. Retrieved 25 December 2018. the KEVM project also started from the semi-formal yellow paper to create an executable and human readable model of reference semantics for EVM programs. It uses the K framework, which is a rewrite-based executable semantic framework. Argument for validity: this is a referenced briefing paper published by TNO, a leading Dutch research body written by Maarten Everts, an academic and TNO researcher 10. ^ "IOHK Addis Blockchain Developer Training: January 8th - March 24th 2019". Ministry of Innovation and Technology (Ethiopia). 2018. Archived from the original on 8 December 2018. Retrieved 25 December 2018. In recognition of the government's efforts to promote gender diversity in technology, the intake for this first course will be all women. Subsequent training courses and job opportunities will be open to all. Argument for validity: Ethiopian government promotion for a blockchain training course run by IOHK. Of interest because it shows an involvement in a developing nation and was a women-only course. 11. ^ (in Japanese)"IOHK launched a secure smart contract technology". Sankei Shimbun. 11 December 2018. Retrieved 28 December 2018. Scholars, business experts and developers participated and released the test format of Plutus and Marlowe at the first public event "PlutusFest Conference" held in Edinburgh, Scotland Argument for validity: Sankei Shimbun is a leading Japanese newspaper. Unable to comment on content. The page has links to solid English language financial sources: ISDA, Golman Sachs and BIS. Much Cardano material is translated into Japanese, eg https://jp.emurgo.io/ IOHKwriter (talk) 00:30, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some other citations: The InterContinentalExchange, which runs the NYSE and Liffe, has identified 58 cryptos it intends to cover in its data feeds. The work has the aim of 'Boosting transparency in the crypto market' and is done in partnership with Blockstream. Weiss, a US credit rating agency, has attempted to assess the quality of cryptos based on factors including their technology, level of adoption and balance of risk and reward. Gradings: A excellent, B good, C fair, D weak, E very weak. Of the 130-odd cryptos rated, the top 3 were A-; 3 were B+; 2 B; 5 B-. Thirty-odd were rated D+/D/D-. IOHKwriter (talk) 09:24, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Pending talks

Notability

@K.e.coffman: Thank you for your time and reaction. Catrìona gave the comment "notable, but fix the refbombing first", so I removed references. I can address your concern about available sources. Here are 29 sources, but because of avoiding the above mentioned refbombing I currently only listed 13. In regards of your other concern about future looking statements - Before 'my' recreated article was deleted, one admins reaction was that it read like an advertisement. So I rewrote/deleted proof-of-stake, smart contracts and use cases. I can understand that the article was deleted because of requirements. I am really trying to create a neutral Wikipedia style article which meets the fair requirements. I could write something about their biggest achivement, but don't want to advertise. I hope this satisfies your concerns for now? --FlippyFlink (talk) 08:37, 27 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reposting the below from my talk page. My comments still stand. --K.e.coffman (talk) 00:24, 28 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cardano pre review

Hello K.e.coffman, would you be willing to do a quick pre review of this Draft:Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)? ProgrammingGeek moved my sandbox live and you moved it to draft with the comment "Unclear notability; largely self-sourced". Would it be save now to submit it for review at Articles for Creation? Information security and crypto are one of my favorite topics. Thank you, --FlippyFlink (talk) 17:04, 25 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cardano on ICE/Blockstream data feed

In March 2019, the InterContinental Exchange (ICE), which controls the New York Stock Exchange, the LIFFE in London and 10 other regulated exchanges, announced the expansion of its coverage of the “most widely and actively traded cryptocurrencies” on its data feed with Blockstream from 15 [1] to 58.[2] The feed "delivers real-time and historical data ... from leading venues, markets and exchanges". Cardano is one of these currencies. Wikipedia's list of cryptocurrencies has 27. Of these coins, 11 are not on the ICE list: Auroracoin, Gridcoin, Mazacoin, Namecoin, Nxt, Peercoin, PotCoin, Primecoin, Ripple, Titcoin and Vertcoin. IOHKwriter (talk) 16:22, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ready for submission?

Hello, @Nathan2055: ping contribution, @Prokaryotes: ping contribution, @Timotheus Canens: ping contribution, @Ian.thomson: ping contribution, @Morgan Ginsberg: ping contribution,@Quispiam: ping contribution, @Oshwah: ping contribution, @Edgar181: ping contribution, @98.213.51.34: ping contribution.

I pinged you, because I saw you where also previously engaged in Cardano talks. Thank you for your input so far. Do you think this article is ready enough to be submitted as an article for creation? Or do you have any suggestions?

I also looked at other Wikipedia Cardano pages in Deutsch, Eesti, Italiano, 日本語, Português, Română, Русский and Nederlands. And looked at other Wikipedia cryptocurrency pages like Verge, Filecoin, NEM, NEO, NuBits, Primecoin, Taler, Titcoin and others on the Template:Cryptocurrencies to get 'inspiration' on how to write an article which meets Wikipedia standards. I already got some great input from others, but maybe you want to contribute also :-) --FlippyFlink (talk) 22:12, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Copied reaction from Edgar181 talk page: I'm sorry, but I'm not familiar enough with the topic to judge the article content. My involvement in the deleted versions of the article was only an administrative action related to a serial spammer and unrelated to the article content itself. -- Ed (Edgar181) 13:54, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    • No problem. Thanks for your reply. --FlippyFlink (talk) 14:07, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This page is not unambiguously promotional, because I wrote to all the users who previously contributed to this article. From the more than 20 I addressed some responded, others I am still waiting for comment and some did not comment. But as you can see in the talk page, nobody mentioned that this article is written in a promotional way. As you can see on this talk page, even the admin David Gerard improved this article and gave me some pointers. Furthermore as the initiator I was still waiting for reactions of some whom I asked to review, but user 98.213.51.34 for some reason submitted the article I was still working on for weeks. Up to now I responded to every comment and tried to incorporate their comments. --FlippyFlink (talk) 18:38, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you @RoySmith: for restoring the deleted draft and the other admins for their reactions. I will try to improve the article to meet the Wikipedia standard by also asking the newly involved admins for their advice. --FlippyFlink (talk) 12:38, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese source

Hello @Dr-Bracket:, you undid my revision with "No source" as comment. However I referred to "IOHK launched a secure smart contract technology". Here is an English translation. I removed the Google translate link because of this above comment from BenKuykendall: "The Sankei Shimbun source should link to the original website, not to Google Translate. (Wikipedia does not require sources to be in English.)" Is it ok to add my previous text again? --FlippyFlink (talk) 15:41, 16 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is it's a press release. I would recommend you take it out of the article as per WP:PRSOURCE. You can check out this source however, it may be a suitable replacement. --Dr-Bracket (talk) 19:44, 16 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you @Dr-Bracket: for your review. I read and used your suggested reference website and felt the text still matched the reference. I will also take a look at your recent reference comment. Thank you for that review also. --FlippyFlink (talk) 07:57, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Dr-Bracket: I updated the article according to your reference comment. Please let me know if any other changed have to be made. --FlippyFlink (talk) 22:50, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Cardano is strictly unmentioned in the source you use for their starting and launch date, which is why I tagged them as not in source. The Oracle Times is not a reliable source either, but it doesn't matter much since it doesn't address the point made. The Nasdaq source also references the Bitcoin Magazine, which is an unreliable as well. Lastly, the third source still has no mention of the claim, you simply removed the NIS template. Dr-Bracket (talk) 23:22, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Dr-Bracket: I removed the Oracle Times reference I added before, because you mentioned that it is not a reliable source. In response to "Cardano is strictly unmentioned in the source you use for their starting and launch date" I added the Mashable reference which states "IOHK, the engineering company co-founded in 2015 by Hoskinson and Jeremy Wood, is best-known for building the main components of Cardano" & "On Oct. 1, 2017, an unusual event caused a collective gasp in the world of cryptocurrencies. A little known cryptocurrency called Cardano — or ADA, as its corresponding coin is called — showed up on crypto-tracking sites". Is it ok now? You named the crowdfundinsider.com as a reliable source. Do you have any other reliable sources I/we could use for this article? Then I can use them also. --FlippyFlink (talk) 08:27, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That section is definitely a bit better now. I think the draft overall needs some more time to mature, but it's slowly getting there. Dr-Bracket (talk) 02:13, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://ir.theice.com/press/press-releases/all-categories/2018/01-18-2018-140310110
  2. ^ https://www.theice.com/market-data/connectivity-and-feeds/consolidated-feed/coverage-list/cryptocurrencies

Resubmit

Hello, @Randykitty:, @Cryptic:, @David Gerard:, @Bkissin:, @Hut 8.5:, @DGG:, @RoySmith:. Thank you for your comment on the Cardano deletion review. I read the Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Five_pillars and feel that the current state of this article meets the requirements. User:BenKuykendall created a deletion discussion page for Cardano in November 2018 with the comment "It seems probable that no reliable sources exist" whereafter Cardano was deleted. As you can see above BenKuykendall helped with this article by reviewing the sources. Because of avoiding refbombing the sources where limited from 29 to 11. This article for creation was rejected and speedy deleted on 11 January 2019 within 60 minutes after submission without further comment. And luckily restored later. I feel that I am 'aloud' to submit it again without the fear of a speedy deletion so others can also review it. Is that a correct assumption? Do you have any further suggestions to meet the Wikipedia requirements or how to proceed? --FlippyFlink (talk) 16:48, 16 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I would think it is hopeless. No coverage in reliable sources whatsoever. A quick look at the references: only two potentially good sources in the list, CNBC and Financial Times, but neither mentions Cardano. Perhaps they are referenced to confirm some secondary points, but where is notability? Retimuko (talk) 04:54, 12 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Kiayias A., Russell A., David B., Oliynykov R. (2017) “Ouroboros: a provably secure proof-of-stake blockchain protocol”, in Katz J., Shacham H. (eds) Advances in Cryptology – Crypto 2017. pages 357–388, Cham, 2017. Springer International Publishinghttps://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-63688-7_12

Bernardo D., Gaži P., Kiayias A., Russell A. (2018) "Ouroboros praos: An adaptively-secure, semi-synchronous proof-of-stake blockchain", Annual International Conference on the Theory and Applications of Cryptographic Techniques, Springer, pp 66-98. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-78375-8_3. EUROCRYPT 2018 - 37th Annual International Conference on the Theory and Applications of Cryptographic Techniques, Tel Aviv, Israel, April 29 - May 3, 2018 Proceedings, Part II, pages 66–98, 2018.

Avgouleas E. and Kiayias A. (2019) "The promise of blockchain technology for global securities and derivatives markets: The new financial ecosystem and the ‘holy grail’ of systemic risk containment", European Business Organization Law Review, December/2019, 20: 81. https://doi.org/10.1007/s40804-019-00133-3

Blockchain Technology Laboratory at the University of Edinburgh is funded by IOHK. Prof Aggelos Kiayias, chair in cybersecurity and privacy, heads up the lab and is chief scientist at IOHK

List of 2017 news items about the establishment of the Blockchain Technology Laboratory in The Times, The Scotsman, and Business Insider

Ouroboros Genesis: Composable Proof-of-Stake Blockchains with Dynamic Availability https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/3243734.3243848 A Treasury System for Cryptocurrencies: Enabling Better Collaborative Intelligence https://www.ndss-symposium.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/ndss2019_02A-2_Zhang_paper.pdf

Marlowe: Financial Contracts on Blockchain https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-3-030-03427-6_27 (It says on the first page This work is part of the Cardano project and is supported by IOHK)

The two papers from WTSC are on the Financial Crypto website - not published in Springer, but also not only in IOHK library. Marlowe: implementing and analysing financial contracts on blockchain http://fc20.ifca.ai/wtsc/WTSC2020/WTSC20_paper_18.pdf The Extended UTXO Model http://fc20.ifca.ai/wtsc/WTSC2020/WTSC20_paper_25.pdf

Reward Sharing Schemes for Stake Pools by Lars Bruenjes (IOHK); Aggelos Kiayias (University of Edinburgh and IOHK); Elias Koutsoupias (University of Oxford); Aikaterini-Panagiota Stouka (University of Edinburgh and IOHK). accepted to Euro S&P - but that has been postponed because of Covid-19. https://www.ieee-security.org/TC/EuroSP2020/accepted.htmlIOHKwriter (talk) 18:05, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

21 cryptocurrencies, including Cardano, assessed in "Developing a Cryptocurrency Assessment Framework: Function over Form" by Andrew Burnie (UCL and The Alan Turing Institute), James Burnie (Eversheds Sutherland (International) LLP), Andrew Henderson (Eversheds Sutherland (International) LLP). Ledger, 2018. http://ledger.pitt.edu/ojs/ledger/article/view/121/106

IOHK online library: https://iohk.io/en/research/library/IOHKwriter (talk) 20:29, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

New sources

Blankenhorn, D. (2018) "10 Cryptocurrency Alternatives to Bitcoin" Kiplinger.com, April 13 https://www.kiplinger.com/slideshow/investing/T038-S001-10-cryptocurrency-alternatives-to-bitcoin/index.html

Charles Hoskinson interview "Ex-Ethereum CEO: Foundation Should Not Intervene to Save The DAO" https://www.coindesk.com/former-ethereum-ceo-foundation-not-gotten-involved-dao-crisis. CoinDesk, Jun 23, 2016 at 19:58 UTC

In 2018, The Economist ran two articles that discussed alt coins: 'Central-bank digital currencies: Proceed with caution', 17 March 2018, p32. This mentioned 4 coins: Bitcoin, Ethereum, XRP, Stellar, Cardano. 'Crypto-currencies: Beyond bitcoin', 13 January 2018, p35. This discusses new coins and after dismissing most as 'no more than curiosities' focuses on the biggest of the 40 coins with a market capitalisation of more than $1bn. It starts with smart contract coins, Ethereum ($137bn), Cardano ($20bn) and Neo ($8bn); then Ripple ($78bn), Monero ($6bn), Zcash ($2bn), Stellar ($9.8bn). All these cryptos are on WP except Cardano.

These demonstrate the adoption of Cardano in financial markets. Weiss, a financial ratings agency, ranks Cardano as one of the best for both technology and its risk/reward balance. 'Cryptocurrencies: Who's In First?' - source: news channel on Nasdaq exchange; and 'Weiss Crypto Ratings Puts Bitcoin Aside EOS and XRP in Annual Outlook' - Cointelegraph cited on W in other crypto stories. link to news story added IOHKwriter (talk) 10:24, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

'EF Hutton researchers will undertake a review of some of the largest cryptocurrencies by market cap, specifically Bitcoin (BTC), Ethereum (ETH), Ripple (XRP), EOS (EOS), Litecoin (LTC), Bitcoin Cash (BCH) and Cardano (ADA), awarding each a one to five-star rating.' Source: 'Stock Brokerage EF Hutton Rates Cryptocurrencies to Help Clients Track ‘Rapid Developments’' - Cointelegraph cited on W in other crypto stories. EF Hutton is one of the largest US stock brokers IOHKwriter (talk) 11:18, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Switzerland’s main stock exchange, SIX, lists the world’s first exchange-traded products (ETPs) tracking cryptocurrencies: ‘composed of up to [the] top 10 crypto assets ranked by inflation-adjusted market capitalization’. All assets in the index were approved by SIX for the ETP. It started with Cardano among its eight crypto assets. 'Amun lists crypto basket tracker on SIX Swiss Exchange'. Source: Institutional Asset Manager, cited on W for other pages. Link to news story added IOHKwriter (talk) 10:18, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

CMC Markets, which provides spread-betting and contracts for difference, has launched an emerging crypto index of seven coins includes Cardano. 'CMC Markets to launch range of crypto indices' Source: Institutional Asset Manager, cited on W for other pages. Link to news story added IOHKwriter (talk) 10:18, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The InterContinental Exchange has identified 58 cryptos for coverage in its data feeds, including Cardano). Eleven of English Wikipedia’s list are not included by the ICE. 'Owner of New York Stock Exchange Adds Dozens of Virtual Currencies to Crypto Data Feed' link to news story added IOHKwriter (talk) 10:18, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

'Charles Hoskinson to Launch Security Token Blockchain With Polymath'. Source: Cointelegraph cited on W in other crypto stories. IOHKwriter (talk) 10:18, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The 2019 subscriber report on cryptocurrencies and exchanges by Acquisdata identifies 10 ‘leading’ cryptocurrencies, including Cardano. (Cryptocurrency and Exchanges, 24 June 2019)

'The 10 Most Important Cryptocurrencies Other Than Bitcoin' Investopedia cited by W in other finance stories.

Cardano cited as ‘notable’ in US Senate. In his testimony on behalf of the Blockchain Association to the US Senate committee on banking at a hearing entitled ‘Examining regulatory frameworks for digital currencies and blockchain’, Jeremy Allaire, a co-founder and chairman of the crypto platform Circle, said: ‘The most well-known and popular blockchain platform is the Ethereum blockchain ... Other notable examples include EOS, Tezos, Tron, NEO, Cardano, and Algorand.’IOHKwriter (talk) 09:34, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That's what we call an "in-passing mention" that doesn't contribute a thing to establishing notability. --Randykitty (talk) 09:46, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I would agree with you if we were talking about a newspaper report about price movements, but this is a statement by a leading figure in the crypto world on behalf of The Blockchain Association. It is a 5000+ word statement to a US Senate committee that is examining the potential for regulating blockchains and cryptocurrencies. It does add something: that Cardano is one of just six blockchains that he identifies as 'notable'. It is a notable (as accepted by W) person giving evidence to a notable (as accepted by W) committee that Cardano is notable. That would seem to carry weight against your opinion that Cardano is not notable
None of these are mainstream Reliable Sources, and this should be reasonably obvious. See also Wikipedia:No original research - David Gerard (talk) 06:24, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
None of this is original research; I have added web sources with a statement as to their reliability. Some sources are not freely available on the web, such as the Acquisdata reports IOHKwriter (talk) 10:47, 1 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
by the way, how come you don't have a conflict of interest here? Aren't you just finding a way to plug your book?

Of the six blockchains talked about in this report to the US Senate committee, Cardano is the only one not given coverage on the US English version of Wikipedia. It is the only blockchain where sanctions are so severe that it cannot even be mentioned IOHKwriter (talk) 21:41, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

'IOHK Launches Cardano Blockchain; Ada Now Trading on Bittrex' October 02, 2017, by Amy Castor, Bitcoin Magazine. Quoted on Nasdaq.com. https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/iohk-launches-cardano-blockchain-ada-now-trading-bittrex IOHKwriter (talk) 09:21, 6 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

EToro adds Cardano: "Trading platform eToro adds support for Tezos amid price surge". https://breakermag.com/people-in-30-u-s-states-can-now-copy-other-investors-crypto-trades-on-etoro/

2019 analysis of Switzerland's "Crypto Valley" identifies six "unicorns" – companies valued at more than $1 billion: "The prior [2018] Crypto Valley Top 50 Report counted four Unicorns. Among those are three of the world’s biggest protocol projects: Ethereum Foundation, Cardano and Dfinity Foundation..." The fourth is Bitmain. IOHKwriter (talk) 09:03, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In 2019, the Nasdaq exchange began quoting bitcoin, Ethereum and Ripple prices and has now started quoting ada prices

"Two cryptos Weiss claims are better than Bitcoin": Crypto ratings company believes Bitcoin’s technology is prehistoric compared with these two competitors (Fantom and Cardano)

"Cardano: the true potential of crypto for the real world" Cardano founder Charles Hoskinson likes to say he's building a system to last 100 years. Source: Benzinga.com cited in 100+ other Wiki articles IOHKwriter (talk) 22:54, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

US crypto exchange Binance, "the biggest cryptocurrency exchange in the world in terms of trading volume", starts taking deposits for 5 alt coins in preparation for trading: "Binance US opens deposits for ADA, BAT, ETC, XLM, ZRX"

New Balance, "one of the world's major sports footwear and apparel manufacturers" to quote Wikipedia, to use Cardano blockchain to track top-range trainers: "New Balance to Use Cardano Blockchain to Confirm Product Authenticity" IOHKwriter (talk) 09:02, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"If Bitcoin Fails, Crypto Industry in for a Bad Time: Cardano Founder" Coin Telegraph interview with Charles HoskinsonIOHKwriter (talk) 15:58, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notable founder: Charles Hoskinson has 113.7K followers on Twitter; Jimmy Wales has 145.6k. Ethereum founder Vitalik (879.3K). Dean Baquet, executive editor of The New York Times, has 26.3K. Twitter founders' followers: Jack Dorsey (4.2m), Noah Glass (5k), Biz Stone (2.8m), and Evan Williams (12.9K). Bestselling author Robert Harris (72.8K). Oracle founder Larry Ellison (104.9K) IOHKwriter (talk) 17:26, 16 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Interview with Hoskinson by a source regarded as trusted on Wikipedia: Morris, D.M., (2019) “Boxing With Shadows: Is Charles Hoskinson His Own Worst Enemy?” Breakermag.com, 8 April https://breakermag.com/boxing-with-shadows-is-charles-hoskinson-his-own-worst-enemy/ IOHKwriter (talk) 11:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hoskinson cited in and used to illustrate Breaker article https://breakermag.com/bulls-bills-and-blue-sky-thinking-how-wyoming-became-the-blockchain-state/

Cardano is one of 12 cryptos included in an April 1 spoof on Linkedin. https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6518440110470492161/ Story reported on Breaker https://breakermag.com/crypto-news-is-so-surreal-these-7-april-fools-jokes-almost-ring-true/

Binance.US Expands Support for Dogecoin Binance.US launched, initially offering trading for Bitcoin, Ether, XRP, Bitcoin Cash, Litecoin, Binance Coin and Tether. On Sept. 24, it added Cardano (ADA), Basic Attention Token, Ethereum Classic, Stellar and 0x. On Oct 24, it announced support for Dogecoin. That's 13 coins; all covered by Wikipedia, except Cardano (why am I not surprised?) IOHKwriter (talk) 18:49, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How secure is Cardano? Undersearcher analysis on Medium.com IOHKwriter (talk) 23:23, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cardano one of '20 major crypto assets' accepted as payment by Travala Travala for travel through Booking.com IOHKwriter (talk) 23:23, 26 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

'... prominent ICO-funded projects like Cardano and IOTA' https://breakermag.com/in-ico-investing-winners-and-losers-couldnt-be-further-apart/

Cardano Foundation launches AdaPay, an ada payment gateway for shops IOHKwriter (talk) 12:30, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Academic analysis of PoS algorithms, including Cardano's Ouroboros "Proof-of-Stake Consensus Mechanisms for Future Blockchain Networks: Fundamentals, Applications and Opportunities" Nguyen, CT; Hoang, DT (June 26, 2019). "Proof-of-Stake Consensus Mechanisms for Future Blockchain Networks: Fundamentals, Applications and Opportunities". IEEE Access. Retrieved 29 November 2019. IOHKwriter (talk) 12:30, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sp8de acknowledges in its whitepaper that development depends on the Cardano blockchain, specifically completion of the smart contracts phase. Charles Hoskinson has stated that Cardano has no relationship with Sp8de. IOHKwriter (talk) 15:42, 2 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Adopters of Ouroboros include the Coda cryptocurrency (https://codaprotocol.com/docs/architecture/proof-of-stake/), Concordium (https://concordium.com/) and Web 3 Foundation (https://web3.foundation/) IOHKwriter (talk) 12:58, 10 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Abra wallet covers 30 coins, including Cardano. Beginners Guide to Abra Crypto App & Mobile Wallet: Complete Review (Blockonomi) IOHKwriter (talk) 19:15, 9 January 2020 (UTC)IOHKwriter (talk) 09:50, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Everything Guide to Investing in Cryptocurrency by Ryan Derousseau (Simon & Schuster, 2019): 'Cardano is developed with scientific rigor in mind. It’s the college professor to Ripple’s entrepreneur.'IOHKwriter (talk) 18:37, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Learn Ethereum: The Collection (Skvorc et al, SitePoint, 2018): 'Rather than developers working mostly on their own, the concepts are peer-reviewed, making sure the ideas implemented have been reviewed and proven to work before being implemented.'

R3 Corda for Architects and Developers by Debajani Mohanty (Apress, 2019) 'Cardano is a decentralized blockchain platform … that works on a PoS algorithm and provides a base for the cryptocurrency ada.'IOHKwriter (talk) 18:37, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Emurgo runs coffee tracking pilot in Indonesia (unclear whether it uses Cardano). https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Technology/Blockchain-set-to-power-Asia-s-farmersIOHKwriter (talk) 08:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Digital banking trends of 2020" by Professor Aggelos Kiayias, Chief Scientist at IOHK, 15 April. https://www.globalbankingandfinance.com/digital-banking-trends-of-2020/ IOHKwriter (talk) 17:47, 16 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

IOHK and the University of Edinburgh were among 10 organisations awarded funding under the Priviledge project (2018-20), which is part of the European Union's €80 billion Horizon 2020 research and innovation programme. The aim of the project is to "develop and advance techniques that enhance privacy, anonymity and efficient decentralized consensus for blockchains and distributed ledgers technologies". In 2019, the project's website published a joint paper by Edinburgh and IOHK researchers, "Timed Signatures and Zero-Knowledge Proofs: Timestamping in the Blockchain Era" by Aydin Abadi, Michele Ciampi, Aggelos Kiayias and Vassilis Zikas. An impact assessment led by Bjo ̈rn Tackmann of IBM and published by the European Commission listed 2 published papers and 2 preprints by Edinburgh/IOHK. https://ec.europa.eu/research/participants/documents/downloadPublic?documentIds=080166e5c558cb56&appId=PPGMS https://cyberwatching.eu/sites/default/files/priviledge-onepager-uc4.pdf https://priviledge-project.eu/ https://www.ed.ac.uk/informatics/blockchain/news/priviledge-privacy-in-distributed-ledgers IOHKwriter (talk) 17:03, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Interview in Coinmarketcap's "Crypto Titans" series: "Charles Hoskinson on the Power of Crypto, Working From Home, and Mongolian Hunting Falcons". https://blog.coinmarketcap.com/2020/05/11/charles-hoskinson-on-the-power-of-crypto-working-from-home-and-mongolian-hunting-falcons-2/IOHKwriter (talk) 17:12, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Coindesk article selects the 50 "most innovative, consequential and viable projects". Cardano listed at 40. https://www.coindesk.com/the-coindesk-50 IOHKwriter (talk) 17:17, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Chalmers university sets up a free online seminar series covering functional programming. Speakers include Philip Wadler, Professor of Theoretical Computer Science at the University of Edinburgh and Senior Research Fellow at IOHK. http://chalmersfp.org/ IOHKwriter (talk) 17:27, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not regarded as reliable by W: https://cointelegraph.com/news/cardano-is-working-on-a-microchip-that-would-give-crypto-a-cash-like-experience

Not regarded as reliable by W: Cardano Development Company to Join Hyperledger Project & W3C. https://cointelegraph.com/news/cardano-development-company-to-join-hyperledger-project-w3c

Bingsheng Zhang1, Roman Oliynykov2, and Hamed Balogun "A Treasury System for Cryptocurrencies: Enabling Better Collaborative Intelligence", NDSS 2020. https://www.ndss-symposium.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/ndss2019_02A-2_Zhang_paper.pdf https://www.ndss-symposium.org/ndss-paper/a-treasury-system-for-cryptocurrencies-enabling-better-collaborative-intelligence/ IOHKwriter (talk) 16:40, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Vint Cerf announces his talk at Cardano summit (July 2-3)IOHKwriter (talk) 14:30, 18 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Aaron Hurst (2020) "Blockchain use cases within transport and logistics", Information Age, 24 July. https://www.information-age.com/blockchain-use-cases-within-transport-logistics-123490525/IOHKwriter (talk) 09:17, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Batchimeg. B (2020) "Training under way to prepare globally competent blockchain developers", Montsame, Ulaanbaatar, 22 July, https://www.montsame.mn/en/read/231778 IOHKwriter (talk) 10:54, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Philip Wadler, one of the creators of Haskell, has described working on IOHK's Plutus smart contracts language, http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/wadler/topics/iohk.html, resulting in a paper, Unraveling Recursion: Compiling an IR with Recursion to System F, http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/wadler/papers/mpc-2019/unraveling.pdf IOHKwriter (talk) 12:33, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

IOHK engineers alter Glasgow Haskell Compiler to improve handling of 64-bit and larger numbers. Improving Sylvain Henry (2020) "Haskell’s big numbers support", Haskell Weekly, issue 222. https://haskellweekly.news/issue/222.html IOHKwriter (talk) 12:49, 31 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Bitfinex launches staking rewards for Cardano, 6 October 2020, Hedge Week - a specialist subscription newsletter launched in 2003. cited in a dozen other hedge fund articles on Wiki2A00:23C4:A7:2301:F811:411D:AAE0:DC84 (talk) 15:04, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Is Charles Hoskinson notable?

Twitter figures and policy suggest he is. With 115k followers, Hoskinson meets a threshold criteria that any controversial tweets he makes are allowed to stay up because they are in the public interest. The threshold is 100k or that the person represents a government or is an elected official. Jimmy Wales 152k; Vitalik Buterin 885k; Larry Ellison 105k. The average number of followers on Twitter is estimated to be 707. Hoskinson is mentioned on three Wikipedia pages

Cited as founder of the Bitcoin Education Project in Bitcoin's successors: from Litecoin to Freicoin and onwards, Guardian, 2013

Forbes magazine estimated Hoskinson's wealth at $500m-$600m in a feb 28 2018 issue profile as part of its first crypto wealth table. Hoskinson was ranked 14 of the 19 men covered. Vitalik Buterin, 24, was the youngest, and Hoskinson, 30, the second-youngest. https://www.forbes.com/sites/angelauyeung/2018/02/07/charles-hoskinson-ethereum-iohk-blockchain-crypto-cryptocurrency/

Contested deletion

This page should not be speedily deleted because... I have been making frequent notes on the Talk page over the past year, as discussed with and accepted by various Wikipedia editors. This is in preparation for Wikipedia accepting that this established altcoin - the only one of the top coins shown in the graphic on Wikipedia's list of cryptos page that does not have its own entry - is notable. IOHKwriter (talk) 23:41, 26 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Move

I provided 3 more reliable sources from forbes and Yahoo finance, see no reason why not to move the article. I meets wikipedia standards imo Spada II ♪♫ (talk) 05:58, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Yahoo is a crypto blog reprint, and the Forbes is a contributor blog. There's still a lot of bad sources in the article too - crypto blogs, WP:CRYSTAL press release churnalism and so forth. Anything that survives will be much shorter - David Gerard (talk) 15:01, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

-Please mark the bad sources, Forbes is reliable, maybe Yahoo finance is less reliable but depends to the content. A simple Google search shows the notability of the article. Spada II ♪♫ (talk) 15:26, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Spada2: for the record, anything written by Forbes contributors is not reliable per longstanding consensus at WP:RSN - Forbes itself even caveats contributor content by noting contributor's opinions are their own. Anything written by Forbes staff is fine. SamHolt6 (talk) 15:44, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

-@ SamHolt6 OK I provided extra source beside Forbes for my new edit but I still think Forbes is reliable. Spada II ♪♫ (talk) 16:01, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Spada2, Forbes itself is reliable, but Forbes "contributor" pieces are basically blogs. Anyone can contribute an article and get paid for it, and the content is not subject to editorial review. We don't allow Forbes contributor blogs as reliable sources, and they do not contribute to a subject's notability. – bradv🍁 16:03, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Spada2: in this edit you have just added the same Forbes contributor blog that was removed some minutes ago. This seems like an edit war. Retimuko (talk) 16:04, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ Retimuko rem that Forbes, i respect the opinion of majority. I think a lot has changed since 2018 and the article should be published and do my best. Spada II ♪♫ (talk) 16:11, 27 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@ Retimuko and @ SamHolt6 Would you please check and see if there is any content or source that you have problems with? Thanks in Advance! Spada II ♪♫ (talk) 09:12, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Cardano/IOHK/Hoskinson references in trusted sources

Other coins are allowed to link to their GitHub and white paper (see examples in refs at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cryptocurrencies#cite_note-8)

https://www.scotsman.com/business/will-cardano-shake-finance-its-foundations-jim-duffy-comment-2872553

The Ouroboros protocol underlying Cardano is described in this academic paper, which is already cited at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cryptocurrencies#cite_note-8 Md Sadek Ferdous; Mohammad Jabed Morshed Chowdhury; Hoque, Mohammad A.; Colman, Alan (January 20, 2020), Blockchain Consensuses Algorithms: A Survey, arXiv:2001.07091, Bibcode:2020arXiv200107091S

Lars Brünjes, Director of Education at IOHK, a Company Supporting Cardano Development, Says Blockchain Platform “Wants to be Truly Decentralized” https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2020/06/163289-lars-brunjes-director-of-education-at-iohk-a-company-supporting-cardano-development-says-blockchain-platform-wants-to-be-truly-decentralized/ Crowdfund Insider has been cited on other W pages 148 times, going back at least to 2013 IOHKwriter (talk) 10:54, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cryptocurrencies#/media/File:Market_capitalizations_of_cryptocurrencies.svg 2A00:23C4:A7:2301:5949:F09E:7E31:D6D3 (talk) 10:31, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reynard, Cherry (May 25, 2018). "What are the top 10 cryptocurrencies?". The Telegraph. Retrieved October 15, 2018. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/digital-money/top-10-popular-cryptocurrencies-2018/2A00:23C4:A7:2301:5949:F09E:7E31:D6D3 (talk) 10:30, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

“Boxing with shadows: is Charles Hoskinson his own worst enemy?” Breakermag.com, 8 April 2019. https://breakermag.com/boxing-with-shadows-is-charles-hoskinson-his-own-worst-enemy/ profile of Cardano co-founder before IOHK summit and public conference in Miami. Breakermag cited as best of crypto sources in Wikipedia editors debate

"The prophets of cryptocurrency survey the boom and bust", Nick Paumgarten, New Yorker, October 15, 2018 https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/10/22/the-prophets-of-cryptocurrency-survey-the-boom-and-bust Hoskinson interviewed as part of substantial feature

"Such currency. Much risk", Kevin Roose, 16 September 2017, The New York Times, front page business section piece quotes Charles Hoskinson Bloomberg interview: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-18/ethereum-co-founder-says-crypto-coin-market-is-ticking-time-bomb

"Universities of Britain: cosying up to crypto is a bad look"', Jemima Kelly, 10 July 2018 Critical article on links between academia and crypto world, focusing on "cryptopuff masquerading as academic research" from Imperial College London and eToro (a platform that offers Cardano and other cryptos)

"Girl band Japanese sing praises of digital money", Leo Lewis, 13 January 2018, Financial Times Eight-member girl band Kasotsuka Shojo ("Virtual Currency Girls") inspired by cryptocurrencies with names like 'Cardano' and 'Bitcoin'IOHKwriter (talk) 13:59, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Blockchain entrepreneurs hold fast to their vision of tech utopia", Jane Wild, 30 January 2017, Financial Times Cites Charles Hoskinson talking about Cardano

"Central banks explore blockchain to create digital currencies", Jane Wild, Financial Times, 2 November 2016 Hoskinson's view on prospect of “smart” money

Robby HOUBEN, Alexander SNYERS (2018) "Cryptocurrencies and blockchain", Policy Department for Economic, Scientific and Quality of Life Policies, Directorate-General for Internal Policies of the European Parliament. https://www.europarl.europa.eu/cmsdata/150761/TAX3%20Study%20on%20cryptocurrencies%20and%20blockchain.pdf

This EU report includes the following: - it lists Cardano as one of "the 10 cryptocurrencies with the highest market capitalisation" - it describes the workings of ada and Cardano - it regards Cardano as notable for several reasons, including: (a) "Cardano aims to improve scalability, security, governance, and interoperability with traditional financial systems and regulations, by learning from and improving on lessons learned in the Bitcoin and Ethereum communities." (b) "What distinguishes Cardano from Ethereum, and from many other cryptocurrencies, is that it is (one of the first) blockchain projects to be developed and designed from a scientific philosophy by a team of leading academics and engineers." (c) Although "Ada can be qualified as a pseudo-anonymous coin", it "is interesting to note however – and as far as we could establish, unparalleled – that know your customer (KYC) standards were applied during the initial offering of Ada."

'A small community of tightly connected editors are responsible for most of the ... information about cryptocurrencies in Wikipedia'

A fascinating article by researchers from City University, the University of Copenhagen, the British Library and University College London. This finding chimes with my experience over the past 18 months in trying to establish how 3 people were able to delete the Cardano page and put in place such draconian rules that any mention of IOHK or Cardano can be deleted within minutes as 'spam'. https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fbloc.2019.00012/full

lol, Frontiers is a predatory open-source publisher on the WP:CITEWATCH list of journals not to use in Wikipedia - David Gerard (talk) 12:27, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello David Gerard. I was unaware of any Wikipedia blacklist on this journal. However, the WP:CITEWATCH page is not a “list of journals not to use in Wikipedia”, as you suggest, but indicates those where caution may be needed. The text states that the Frontiers titles are "hit-and-miss" and to "evaluate on a case by case basis". I had checked out the authors. Baronchelli is researching at City and UCL. He has been published in journals such as Science, Nature Human Behaviour and Trends in Cognitive Sciences. He has a h-index of 40, which potentially indicates an "outstanding scientist". It is Baronchelli's first publication by Frontiers in Blockchain and I would be surprised if he has ever heard of the Wikipedia list. He has reviewed for Frontiers in Blockchain. I would think the journal was chosen because it suited the topic, is fast to publish, and its editorial board includes Christopher Clack, a UCL prof who specialises in computable contracts and has worked with ISDA.IOHKwriter (talk) 17:39, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

International and Wikipedia sites that have a Cardano page

These pages have been up for several years, so the references and content may be suitable for reusing.

The Netherlands: https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardano_(cryptovaluta-platform)

Germany https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardano_(Kryptow%C3%A4hrung)

Portugal https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardano_(Criptomoeda)

Italy https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardano_(criptovaluta)

Russia https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardano

Japan https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AB%E3%83%AB%E3%83%80%E3%83%8E_(%E3%83%96%E3%83%AD%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%83%81%E3%82%A7%E3%83%BC%E3%83%B3)

Roumania https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardano_(platform%C4%83)

Estonia https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardano_(platvorm)

Also, Investopaedia https://www.investopedia.com/cardano-definition-4683961 IOHKwriter (talk) 10:17, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@IOHKwriter: Other language Wikipedias are independent projects with their own standards. User generated sources are not reliable sources. Furthermore, Investopedia is completely unrelated to us and directory listings do not demonstrate notability. Ian.thomson (talk) 10:34, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Ian.thomson for clarifying on Investopedia. 20 minutes for a recent change to be commented on; 17 minutes for this one. This page really is under surveillance. I make no claims about the Wikipedia sites apart from 'the references and content may be suitable for reusing'. I think that's clear. I do, however, think the German model gets away from the subjective 'notability' that you use on US Wikipedia. It lists the leading cryptos, and so gets away from the 'small community of tightly connected editors' problem and having to decide that Titcoin is notable.

Development section

As far as I can tell, no reliable source regarding the Cardano developer environment exists. In other words, under the development section, the paragraph on Marlowe and Plutus might need to be deleted.

NSAdude (talk) 10:31, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Meant to say the section about the developer environment that references an article about Marlowe and Plutus might need to be deleted. NSAdude (talk) 10:33, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Conference reference

I am confused about revert https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cardano_%28cryptocurrency_platform%29&type=revision&diff=985175380&oldid=985168383. The reason states "sourced solely to a single crypto conference paper, not even peer reviewed". The conference in question, CRYPTO, is one of the few top conferences in the field of cryptography. Are papers accepted to this conference not considered peer reviewed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.156.102.251 (talk) 19:16, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies, I thought it was crypto as in cryptocurrency, not as in actual cryptography. In general, conference proceedings aren't peer-reviewed papers as such - they're selected by abstract and names - David Gerard (talk) 21:17, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Inclusion of external links possible? External links

 Done Added the single main URL (per WP:ELNO) - David Gerard (talk) 20:36, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Root9B Audit

-Thank you David for the quick response on the prior edit suggestion!

Suggested text addition under "Technical aspects":

On March 5th 2020, the audit company root9B (R9B) published the results of a static Software Trust Review of a snapshot of IOHK repositories, broken into two phases. R9B audit sought to identify vulnerabilities that may compromise the confidentiality, integrity or availability of software. [1] Blockchainus Maximus (talk) 22:07, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Needs coverage in an independent, third party reliable source - David Gerard (talk) 22:48, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Is an independent audit not implicitly considered third party & reliable? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blockchainus Maximus (talk • contribs) 23:04, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Er, no? What's the evidence they're anyone? And your answer implies the answer is "no, there is no coverage in independent RSes" - David Gerard (talk) 00:49, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough, would agree with you. Will try to find better source material when making future suggestions, thank you. :) --Blockchainus Maximus (talk) 10:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

United States Senate Testimony

In the introduction perhaps a clarification as to Cardano's (broader) purpose:

During a meeting at the United States Senate, under the committee on banking, housing and urban affairs, notable blockchains, including Cardano, were deemed to have a broader scope than purely digital currencies. The Cardano platform, and others, seek to build apps with financial assets on top. These platforms aim to form a new infrastructure layer, providing a method of storing and exchanging data, facilitating transactions and executing contracts in a decentralized, tamper-proof and private manner.

[2] Blockchainus Maximus (talk) 23:14, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Was it covered in a third-party RS? That is, is there outside evidence this is noteworthy for Wikipedia purposes? - David Gerard (talk) 00:49, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Is the United States Senate not considered a noteworthy third-party RS? It is in and of itself a public hearing that is reliable, independent and publishes sources with a reputation for fact checking and accuracy. The members speaking are not linked to Cardano project. They have an oath based on the constitution when speaking. The source material, as with most hearings, is available to (and meant for) consumption by the public. My apologies for any mistakes made - a little new to wiki as you may have gathered ;) Other related sources: [3] [4]
 Not done. A Senate hearing transcript is a primary source. Also, Cardano is only listed as one of many cryptocurrency platforms, so it's not exactly noteworthy enough to be included here. Perhaps the more general information could go on the cryptocurrency article. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 13:09, 26 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Software Trust Review Phase 1+2 Final Report" (PDF). Github. R9B. April 24, 2020. Retrieved October 25, 2020.
  2. ^ "Hearing Entitled "Examining Regulatory Frameworks for Digital Currencies and Blockchain"" (PDF). United States Senate, Committee on banking, housing, and urban affairs. Retrieved 25 October 2020.
  3. ^ "Examining the different types of digital currencies and their infrastructure, their application in the financial system, and the potential benefits and detriments of each" (PDF). U.S. Government Publishing Office, Washington. Retrieved 26 October 2020.
  4. ^ "Full Committee Hearing, Examining Regulatory Frameworks for Digital Currencies and Blockchain". U.S. Senate Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. Retrieved 26 October 2020.
Hi Ganbaruby :) Thank you for posting the information to learning more about how to properly edit on my page, I will definitely take a look into it to try to improve. Indeed it is listed as one of many and not exclusively - if it is considered a primary source would it also mean it is unable to be used for the more general cryptocurrency article? Blockchainus Maximus (talk) 14:45, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop repetitive interruption

@GSS: @David Gerard: @Grayfell: - Please stop repetitive interruption of my recent work on the aticle Cardano (cryptocurrency platform). I got requested to seek for consensus but the within implied disagreement is baseless. I did objective substantial improvements and made the previous state of this artice much more tidy and valuably in the last couple of days. Still my work is getting interrputed and removed. I am willed to stop editing for some time to let the state settle if it helps but please revert the undoing of my work. I find myself in a type of edit war but just want to make the article to be graspable for the layman: i want to help to make it readable for the ordinary person and i want it to reach a state of clear arrangements and order. This article will get complex, because Cardano is a 'cryptocurrency platform' and therefore a whole ecosystem. So there is a lot of work to do.

Grayfell (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 07:48, 27 October 2020 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)&diff=985671930&oldid=985628955

David Gerard (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 11:45, 27 October 2020 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)&diff=985693220&oldid=985692021

GSS (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 13:33, 27 October 2020 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cardano_(cryptocurrency_platform)&diff=985704830&oldid=985704549

Thank you for your patience. Kuckuckz (talk) 17:07, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @GSS: on your talk page you are asking me to find consensus on the talk page. I am here, seeking for consensus. What are your exact points, why are you deleting my work? How should i edit it, so you do not delete it anymore? Please tell me the position. The complete part about the protocol Ouroborus is only describing how the current protocol, 'Hydra' evolved in the past.
Than i did the headlines 'Catalyst' and 'Atala' because some of the content is arrangeable with that topics. Both are direct results or parts of Cardano and Atala is built on Cardano. I want to get structure and content in this article. If you tell me your exact points, why are you deleting my work, i can undo it for you. But i can see no reason to delete most of my work like it never existed! If you are deleting something please tell me why and reasonable facts, so i can correct it.

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Information icon Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Kuckuckz (talk) 17:07, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A note for all new editors

Please read the provisions of WP:GS/Crypto - particularly the provisions against revert-warring - David Gerard (talk) 12:37, 27 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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