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::::::I object to this. German auto makers are infamous for [[Dieselgate]] and have even subjected lab monkeys to emissions from their cars (think about that in the historic context of the home country of these companies). Wikipedia therefore has (or could have) articles or descriptions otherwise on controversial topics such as these. But we do not (and should not) link to articles on ''VWQ'' or ''BMWQ'' that describe people who find such criticism interesting or important or whatever. The same for Tesla. [[User:Lklundin|Lklundin]] ([[User talk:Lklundin|talk]]) 04:41, 5 May 2020 (UTC) |
::::::I object to this. German auto makers are infamous for [[Dieselgate]] and have even subjected lab monkeys to emissions from their cars (think about that in the historic context of the home country of these companies). Wikipedia therefore has (or could have) articles or descriptions otherwise on controversial topics such as these. But we do not (and should not) link to articles on ''VWQ'' or ''BMWQ'' that describe people who find such criticism interesting or important or whatever. The same for Tesla. [[User:Lklundin|Lklundin]] ([[User talk:Lklundin|talk]]) 04:41, 5 May 2020 (UTC) |
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:::::::There is a bit of a difference here but I don't think a "TSLAQ" section is appropriate. There wasn't a group of people expecting VW or BMW to go under and neither BMW or VW have financial statements that are as ugly as Tesla's. Beyond that, there is clearly an association of Tesla critics in a way that we don't see with other companies. Tesla/Musk have interacted with and/or taken action against some of those critics. The general war Musk/Tesla has against short sellers and critics (protective order, doxxing, contact via Twitter, etc) absolutely should be in the article and in context that should mention the loose association that is TSLAQ. What this article shouldn't have is some long section on TSLAQ itself. [[User:Springee|Springee]] ([[User talk:Springee|talk]]) 13:35, 5 May 2020 (UTC) |
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Please keep and eye out for manipulative edits. The SEC just blocked short selling of Tesla stock due to stock manipulation by opponents of Tesla
This morning the SEC blocked short selling (betting against a stock) for Tesla stock. This was due to a multi billion dollar financial attack against the stock which originated in Europe. This article had a significant number of unproven claims which originate from short seller or from opponents of Tesla, such as their former CEO Martin Eberhard. Please keep an eye out for any further manipulative edits. 207.141.33.19 (talk) 01:06, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
- What are these "unproven claims which originate from short seller"? If you have identified these, please let others know so that the article can be corrected. Pakaraki (talk) 16:42, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
Short selling was not blocked, it was t,mporarily suspended for standard reasons :Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA) short selling was temporarily restricted by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) until markets close on February 6 . The decision was made in accordance with the SEC's Rule 201, also known as the Uptick Rule. Greglocock (talk) 23:15, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
Factory names
See this recent article: https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-elon-musk-gigafactory-naming-system-update/ Presumably the relevant content and articles should be renamed to align to this standard? -- Chuq (talk) 00:02, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
- Done I did this on 25 February 2020 at 22:03. All references to Gigafactory 1 were changed to Giga Nevada; Gigafactory 2 to Giga New York; Gigafactory 3 to Giga Shanghai; Gigafactory 4 to Giga Berlin. I left in a reference to Gigafactory 4 when the context was around choosing the site (before it was decided to locate it in Berlin). ReferenceMan (talk) 02:46, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Teslarati. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. – Arms & Hearts (talk) 23:31, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
Financial Performance Graphs
I do not believe the financial performance graphs should be present at the top of this article. I question why they are put in that location initially when no other similar companies have these graphs. Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but a large portion of the internet are big fans of the company and want it to succeed, I am wondering if that is the real reason they are there.
In any case I think they should be removed and put into their own section if people want to keep them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.2.59.1 (talk) 18:34, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
Referencing TSLAQ in Controversies section
In an eye towards comprehensiveness, the Controversies section should reference the existence of TSLAQ, much like how Greenpeace is mentioned on Stuart_Oil_Shale_Project. Several of the listed controversies here surrounding Tesla are already included as "motivations" for TSLAQ. QRep2020 (talk) 18:11, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- This appears to be a single-purpose account. WP:SPA. MartinezMD (talk) 20:45, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not a single purpose account. I support it. Springee (talk) 21:22, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- You would have more credibility then. I'm not necessarily against it, I just don't trust the initial recommendation. MartinezMD (talk) 22:27, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- Please let me know if I understand this suggestion correctly. The proposal would be to not only list Tesla's notable controversies, but to also reference that there are indeed individuals who find themselves on the other side of these controversies. To focus so to speak not only on the message, but also on the messenger. Lklundin (talk) 11:39, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Tesla is a bit unusual in having fans and anti-fans. Maybe a very brief mention of fan groups and opposing TSLAQ?--Hippeus (talk) 12:00, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- That could work, yes. QRep2020 (talk) 18:56, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- I object to this. German auto makers are infamous for Dieselgate and have even subjected lab monkeys to emissions from their cars (think about that in the historic context of the home country of these companies). Wikipedia therefore has (or could have) articles or descriptions otherwise on controversial topics such as these. But we do not (and should not) link to articles on VWQ or BMWQ that describe people who find such criticism interesting or important or whatever. The same for Tesla. Lklundin (talk) 04:41, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- There is a bit of a difference here but I don't think a "TSLAQ" section is appropriate. There wasn't a group of people expecting VW or BMW to go under and neither BMW or VW have financial statements that are as ugly as Tesla's. Beyond that, there is clearly an association of Tesla critics in a way that we don't see with other companies. Tesla/Musk have interacted with and/or taken action against some of those critics. The general war Musk/Tesla has against short sellers and critics (protective order, doxxing, contact via Twitter, etc) absolutely should be in the article and in context that should mention the loose association that is TSLAQ. What this article shouldn't have is some long section on TSLAQ itself. Springee (talk) 13:35, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- I object to this. German auto makers are infamous for Dieselgate and have even subjected lab monkeys to emissions from their cars (think about that in the historic context of the home country of these companies). Wikipedia therefore has (or could have) articles or descriptions otherwise on controversial topics such as these. But we do not (and should not) link to articles on VWQ or BMWQ that describe people who find such criticism interesting or important or whatever. The same for Tesla. Lklundin (talk) 04:41, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- That could work, yes. QRep2020 (talk) 18:56, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- Tesla is a bit unusual in having fans and anti-fans. Maybe a very brief mention of fan groups and opposing TSLAQ?--Hippeus (talk) 12:00, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not a single purpose account. I support it. Springee (talk) 21:22, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
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