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Past discussions (2006-mid 2013) have now been archived. --Turn685 (talk) 07:00, 8 August 2013 (UTC)

Acid throwing in UK

Herve Reex should have a look here. There was recently one Acid attack in UK. Read:-

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/london-acid-attack-mary-konye-guilty-of-attack-on-naomi-oni-29944866.html

And not to forget Katie Piper's Incident. OccultZone (talk) 08:19, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

1500 total? But same source also include, 1000 in India, 300+ In Pakistan, 105+ in UK, 492 in Bangladesh. Contradicting the total stats. So it was removed. OccultZone (talk) 20:48, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

no, ASTI state 1000 total which includes unreported. And 105 UK is not acid attacks, read the citation.Herve Reex (talk) 02:30, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

1500 are "unreported", while they include 492 from Bangladesh, 300 from Pakistan. Then 1000 from India. How it makes up 1500? The stat is meaningless. Also BBC's link can lead you to copyright issues. Neither BBC is credible, because a lot of times they copy from here.

There are 600-700 attacks in Bangladesh, by other estimate. [1] You know about these acid attacks? Hong Kong acid attacks, from Hong Kong, In Iran, UK, they have took place as well. Include Russia, Afghanistan. Maybe we can simply from it from lead. OccultZone (talk) 10:13, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

Violence against men

There is nothing I can see in the article that says men are targeted because of their sex/gender. Because of this, I have removed the Category:Violence against men and the template. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 22:40, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

¿And women are targeted because of their sex/gender? This seems like an odd assumption to make, acid attacks are often perpetrated by people regardless of gender, to note this as "violence against women" is just as stupid, as it would be as "violence against men", neither gender/sex is immune for it, nor is it common outside of Islamic countries to attack women with acid attacks, in fact a better category would be "women and islam" as it's more cultured than general.

Sincerely, --86.81.201.94 (talk) 11:41, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

I believe you miss the point. Female victims are attacked almost exclusively in disputes with men where sexual politics are in play, and the attacker's intent is to establish the dominance of his gender over hers. That makes all such attacks a crime against women. Male victims are attacked for any number of reasons (business, politics, etc.), but never because a woman seeks to relegate all men to subservience, and/or punish one man for refusing to accept a subservient role that his attacker insists he must do, given his gender.

Acid attacks on women are almost always an attack on their entire gender. (Even those with ostensibly political motiviations generally contain gender politics as well, i.e., the victim is a trade unionist [bad enough] AND a woman [worse].) Acid attacks on men are an attack on some non-gender group they belong to, or are perceived to belong to; they are not attacked because they are men. Laodah 19:56, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

I find this line of argument difficult to accept. In almost every case I have read about, the victims are attacked for specific personal reasons - typically, they are a relation or spouse of the attacker who has displeased the attacker in some way. If the attacks' sole or even main purpose were to "establish the dominance of his gender over hers" then why not attack any woman at random? Surely that would serve the purpose just as well?

These women are not attacked simply because they are women. They are attacked (however unjustifiably) because of something they have done or not done, or are believed to have done or not done. I believe you are doing them a disservice by misrepresenting the nature of these attacks and attempting to commandeer the subject for some sort of political end. I suspect that any person who would throw acid in a woman's face probably wouldn't hesitate to do the same to any man that displeased him or her. Shiresman (talk) 23:42, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

This comment engages in textbook victim blaming. Acid throwing is by its nature an attack on the female sex, because of its effect: to disfigure, especially the face; it is an attack on beauty and attractiveness. This is not what you will find in attacks on men. Elizium23 (talk) 23:48, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

If that comment is "textbook victim blaming" then the textbooks clearly need re-writing. Shiresman isn't saying the victims are at fault. He is saying that the perpetrators are motivated by a personal grudge against a specific victim, rather than randomly choosing a target solely on their sex. Iapetus (talk) 09:27, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Men can be victims of acid attacks too, Sergei Filin is only one example.--141.19.228.15 (talk) 19:31, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

The sexism towards men in this talk page is harrowing enough. Let alone the de-legitimizing of issues men face because of that same prejudice showing up in the article itself. Nothing but the double-standards based on sexism support the reasoning of the anti-male users here. Let's not be so hateful as to permit this. Mr.troughton (talk) 15:44, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Ethiopia included?

Message from IP editor regarding removal of Ethiopia from article originally posted to User talk:Rsrikanth05#Acid throwing. Copy-pasting here for discussion. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 13:52, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

I edited the section under the header "epidemiology" of acid throwing to remove Ethiopia. Googling "Acid attacks in Ethiopia" brings up two notable results for the first few pages, one in 2007 and another in 2011. Ethiopia does not have a particularly high incidence of acid attacks, and the BBC article of the 2007 attack makes direct reference to that fact. I felt it was prudent to move Ethiopia from the "frequent incidents" category to the "reported incidents" category.

In addition, the PDF used as the source for the "high frequency of acid attacks in Ethiopia" in the section detailing acid attacks in Africa had that exact same BBC article as its own reference as to the high frequency of acid attacks in the country, which explicitly states the contrary; that Ethiopia is not known for a high frequency of this type of attack. Therefore, I removed Ethiopia from that sentence entirely. Would you please restore my edits?

BBC article:
PDF (which references the above BBC article): — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.205.58.69 (talk) 11:13, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

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Jpost

It seems that @Al-Andalusi: is edit warring[2][3] over the source Jpost.com, calling it an "opinion piece" but it qualifies WP:RS. Capitals00 (talk) 04:13, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

JPost is a highly reliable Engliah language source. The press in Gaza is not free following 2006 at least. Just as we use South Korean sources dealing with North Koraa, JPost is acceptable for Gaza.Icewhiz (talk) 04:53, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Is JPost really the only source here? There are enough newspapers covering the conflict that we don't need to use one with a reputation for smearing "the others". Oncenawhile (talk) 07:03, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

@Oncenawhile The Jerusalem Post is one of the oldest and most respected newspapers in Israel. It has no such reputation. Debresser (talk) 09:49, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Of course the Jerusalem Post is a reliable source (outside its opinion section). Nevertheless, if it is the only source that mentions this otherwise unknown group, I wonder whether it warrants inclusion at all. An unknown group claims to have done something, and we can only cite a single source? Why is it even in the article? — MShabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 11:13, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Parts of the Israeli press, JPost included, cover Gaza and the West Bank in much greater detail and persistency than the international press which usually has coverage during hot conflict periods, diplomatic initiatives, and if an interesting clip comes from a stringer on the ground.... But routine on going coverage (not based on rehashed PR) of Gaza is quite lacking in international sources. Icewhiz (talk) 11:50, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

I'm confused about whether you were replying to me, Icewhiz. I don't see any problem using the Jerusalem Post (or any reputable Israeli newspaper) as a source for news about Gaza. My concern is that unless this unknown group has been reported by other reliable sources, we're giving inappropriate weight to its claims. See WP: PROPORTION. Keep in mind that the Jerusalem Post didn't report an acid throwing attack. It reported a press release by a group it described as unknown. — MShabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 12:03, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

I have no concrete opinion on the significance of this particular reported incident in the acid throwing context (which to my understanding is more an individual act of violence and less of a group "thing") I was chiming in to state JPost is a highly reliable source.Icewhiz (talk) 12:13, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

An 85 year old newspaper, well respected worldwide... JP is one of the more reliable sources we have. Anyway, I don't see the reason to the inclusion of that incident in the article, I believe we can list hundreds of acid throwing incidents from the Middle East, dozens from Israel withoud any regard to Islam or religion, just random incidents of acid throwing that happen often and get media converege. It seems unimportant and unencyclopedic.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 13:47, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Another source[4] has been now added to the article. Capitals00 (talk) 14:33, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Furthermore @Icewhiz, Bolter21, MShabazz, and Debresser: This incident was backed by World Tribune. Jpost reported about this group on 2007 as well, adding that "Members of the group are also responsible for splashing acid in the face of a number of young women who had been accused of "immoral behavior."[5] This group has been also reported in detail by Washington times, Reuters as well.[6][7] Makes it notable enough to mention, and as of 2015, the group was still mentioned.[8] Capitals00 (talk) 15:31, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Capitals00 is a liar who appears to have a personal vendetta (see his history of reverting my edits). My earlier edit was in March, while the 2nd one was in May. He calls this "edit warring". Yeah give me break. Secondly, I never claimed that JP was unreliable. I wrote that the content was a "dubious claim from an opinion piece". Opinion pieces (or blogs) are not necessarily reliable even when the hosting news website is reliable:

Some news outlets host interactive columns they call "blogs", and these may be acceptable as sources if the writers are professional journalists or professionals in the field on which they write, and the blog is subject to the news outlet's full editorial control (see WP:Verifiability § Newspaper and magazine blogs).

This user is fully aware of my reasons behind removal (as acknowledged by his edit summary where he says "clearly not an opinion piece"), yet he chose to go to the Israeli project to rally support for his agenda with his false claim that JP is desecrated. Finally, Capitals00 is ignorant of WP:BRD. The onus is on HIM to discuss and justify its restoration a version that's been stable for months, and not the other way around. Al-Andalusi (talk) 14:42, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

You are a POV pusher and you don't know what's WP:BRD, content was there since 2012[9] and you made a disruptive edit on March this year,[10] it was reverted by me, now you have to describe why your WP:IDONTLIKEIT tangled edit is valid. Though it clearly seems that it isn't. It is not dubious in any case since it has been reported by Jpost and World Tribune. Capitals00 (talk) 15:00, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

K take that to your personal talk pages. Now I ask the question, should this information really be in the article? Becuase if we include Gaza, we sure can find hundreds of incidents by ISIS or by other radical Islamic thugs, as well as incidents with many different motives.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 17:09, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

If we can find from ISIS, then indeed we can include them as well under the section of the impacted region. Capitals00 (talk) 17:27, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

The Jerusalem Post reference does not appear to be an opinion column or blog . Removing it seems to have been done with a false edit summary. The 6th Floor (talk) 16:11, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Can all of you stop edit-warring for a minute, or I will have this article protected. I believe there is consensus that (a) the Jerusalem Post is a reliable source and (b) the article cited is not an opinion column. Now what? Maybe the group exists, and maybe it soesn't. Thank you, Capitals00, for finding evidence that supports its existence, or at least the presence of other press releases by the group. Unfortunately, this is an article about acid throwing and none of those articles seem to mention the group in connection with acid throwing. So is its press release, picked up only by the Jerusalem Post, sufficient to warrant mention of this "organization" in this article? Why? How does that not violate WP:PROPORTION? — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 02:47, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

As the article mentions many examples in many countries there is no reason to whitewash Gaza. Furthermore this being an organized communicated threat to women at large for immodesty is quite significant in the context of the article, which mainly mentions individual actions, even if this was a fringe group.Icewhiz (talk) 05:24, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

@Malik Shabazz: Its just not "only" Jerusalem Post, but also Haaretz,[11] The World Tribune[12] and they did their own research, JPost reported about acid attacks again one year later[13]. I have not really searched for more sources yet but when 3 separate news networks have focused their articles on this group and also mentioned the acid attacks it passes the criteria of inclusion. Since the group continues to have been described by other sources like businessinsider, reuters, washingtonpost like I said, it makes it prevalent enough to have mention with acid attack over here. Capitals00 (talk) 05:37, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

I had checked this out back in 2013. Multiple sources indicating same connection is clearly not falling under WP:PROPORTION, it is rather an important and relevent information for this article. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:53, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

It's been a couple of days and so far, the proponents for inclusion have come up with only a handful of sources. This should tell you something about the event's significance. We do know that this is clearly an isolated event, attributed to an obscure group, and that this group itself is boasting about it and taking credit for it. There is no indication whatsoever that acid throwing did actually take place. Al-Andalusi (talk) 15:07, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

The same could be said of several otger exampkes in tge article. In the case there are actual strong RS sources that jave reported this threat and activity. Sometimes just a threat is enough... The proportion of hijab clad womed have gone up quite sharply since the installation os the Hamas regime.Icewhiz (talk) 18:10, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Not really. The other examples in the article have wide coverage in the news. This one though, is almost nil. Spent a bit of time and I could not find anything in Arabic. I'm calling BS. Al-Andalusi (talk) 20:43, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

And thus we return to JPost (as well as Haaretz, World Tribune, etc) being RS. What arab press? The ones who are under the Hamas boot in Gaza? The wider pan-Arab preess might have seen no reason to run a piece which does not cover Zionest\Gazan conflict which is the main thing they cover regarding Gaza. As this was in RS, it should stay. Icewhiz (talk)

So the entire Arab press and all Arab residents in Palestine are blind, and only the Jewish media is capable of authenticity. Besides, what makes you so sure that Hamas would suppress this information? Islamist groups don't come in one size or shape, they are varied, and IMO only a moron would lump them all together. I think WP:PROPORTION is pretty clear on this isolated threat. Al-Andalusi (talk) 22:17, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

WP:PROPORTION doesn't apply unless you are still going to misrepresent the information as "This one though, is almost nil", despite coverage by multiple reliable sources. At first you challeneged the credibility of Jpost and now you are resorting to personal attacks that "only a moron would lump them all together" and getting too personal, "entire Arab press and all Arab residents in Palestine are blind, and only the Jewish media is capable". Better stop this kind of WP:DE. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 01:50, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Capitals00, you keep citing sources that report nothing more than what this "group"'s press releases say. Please read the sources more carefully and more critically. None of the sources report the group's existence as fact or its alleged actions as facts. There is no indication that the "group" is anything more than one person with a fax machine. — MShabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 11:07, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

You got me rolling. As per these sources: [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] and a simple "google scholar" or "google books" of "gaza hijab acid" - leads to hundreds of sources claiming use of intimidation by Hamas (and proxies) in Gaza (and in the West bank to a lesser extent) to cause women to wear hijabs - intimidation that ranges from threats, through tomatoes, stones, and as the ultimate measure throwing acid in the face. This is a long running phenomena - from the founding of Hamas it would seem, that has caused a markedly increased use of hijab by women (in the past - Palestinian women, in Gaza as well, tended actually to wear quite modern dress. Hijab use was much less frequent). I Believe this systemic use of intimidation, ultimately reaching use of acid, by Hamas in Gaza and the West Bank to promote hijab use should be given a prominent place in the article. And guess what? Much of the writing is not by Israeli sources - but the more progressive and feminist side of the Palestinian movement (e.g. PFLP and other sub-groups that actually promoted a modern role for Palestinian women).Icewhiz (talk) 11:29, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

@MShahbazz: They said "goes by the name" we can better rewrite the information if you agree but really not remove it. Many of the above sources provided by Icewhiz including[23][24] are strong enough. What do you say? Capitals00 (talk) 11:50, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

And here's a b'tselem report dating back to 1994: [www.btselem.org/download/199401_collaboration_suspects_eng.doc] - noting use of acid in several instances:

1. On November 10, 1990, Shamasnah and ten members of his family went to the home of the Badwan family. They entered the house and stabbed the wife, Fatmah Badwan, age 65, eight times in the back, wounding her in the chest and spleen, and causing internal lesions. They then threw acid on her chest and in her eyes, blinding her and scarring her face.
2. During the Intifada, the local cells, which are identified with the various organizations, have taken the place of the hamulah as the source of power and authority in the family issues as well, and the concept of “family honor” has acquired national significance. If traditionally only the father's family was held responsible for the woman's behavior, during the Intifada, the street leadership itself began to take on this “authority.” The leadership began to lay down rules of behavior for women in circulars telling them to ensure modest behavior and traditional dress, including head covering. Women who did not behave as expected became vulnerable to attack by Palestinian activists. These attacks included pouring acid on their bodies, throwing stones at them, threats, and even rape. (footnoote: Statements concerning instances of rape have been taken by B'Tselem (for example, the statement made by A.H. on December 19, 1993); however, the taboo nature of this subject in Arab society means that it is impossible to obtain reliable numerical data concerning the number of women who have been raped by members of gangs during the Intifada on the grounds of collaboration or immoral behavior.)
3. Sana Zbeidi married Khaled Muhammad Ahmad 'Abd a-Dayyem in February 1993. On July 5, 1993, she disappeared from her house; it seems that she fled to the house of the 'Abd Rabu family in Tulkarem, well-known in the area as a family of armed collaborators. According to a testimony by her husband, Khaled, he was summoned in the evening to the police station in Tulkarem, where he found his wife waiting along with her relatives. It seems that Sana Zbeidi had complained at the police station that her husband was violent towards her, and that he had beaten her and thrown acid at her. The husband denied the claims and, after promising the policeman at the station that he would not behave violently, he returned with his wife's family to 'Anabta. According to the husband's testimony, his wife told him on the way that she had been kidnapped by members of the 'Abd Rabu family, who had threatened her at gunpoint and forced her to tell the police that she had come to their house of her own free will and that her husband was in the habit of beating her.Icewhiz (talk) 12:02, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

If you want to play silly games and keep moving the goalposts, go ahead. Are we discussing whether acid throwing takes place in Gaza or whether the sentence in question is bullshit? Ping me if you make up your minds. — MShabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 12:08, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Silly games? I believe I provided ample RS, dating back to the late 80s, that state Hamas (& other Palestinian Islamist groups) use of acid (and other measures) to intimidate women in the West Bank & Gaza is quite a pronounced phenomena. This should be included in the article - along with the alleged 2006 incident. I intend to add a full paragraph detailing this (of which the 2006 event will be but one line), as this is thoroughly well documented use of acid to promote modest dress / hijab use. You really shouldn't attempt to wikiwash Palestinian islamists when there are ample RS. Icewhiz (talk) 12:17, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

I agree with MShabazz. No one disputes that acid throwing has occurred in the region. Speaking of Gaza, Jewish thugs from Kfar Darom opposed to Israel's withdrawal from Gaza in 2005 reportedly threw acid on 10 Israeli forces as they forcibly evacuated the synagogue[25]. Bringing in a couple of events from the 80s carried out by another group in attempt to argue for the inclusion of the threat by the so-called "Swords of Islam" is just not convincing. What you cited establishes that the event had taken place, and even includes dates and names of victims. Al-Andalusi (talk) 16:08, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Your source states a single instance of "blue acidic liquid", and doesn't state acid injuries (e.g. disfigurement, blinding) - doesn't seem relevant. The use, by Islamist Palestinian groups, of acid attacks and threats of acid attacks is well documented by numerable RS spanning decades. This is going in.Icewhiz (talk) 16:18, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

I don't quite get what is the argument for excluding the Gaza attacks, when mentions of far more sporadic attacks in e.g the UK are mentioned, without objection . This material was initially removed based on a false pretense that it was not reliably sourced. Now that we have gotten rid of that false claim, what is the argument for exclusion? The 6th Floor (talk) 17:32, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

I don't see any reason to object the inclusion of any of these Gaza acid attacks. With the above agreement of 4 editors to include the both, Swords of Islam and Hamas acid attacks and 2 users partially agreeing only on Hamas, I would encourage Icewhiz to write his paragraph on the main article. 03:35, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

I'm working on the section. Note that while going through this, I do see Palestinian sources cited (though I can't find the original) in relation to the "Sword of Islam" acid incident in 2006. Particularly: “Islamist Group Claims Attack on Gaza Al-Arabiya Office,” Ma’an News Agency, January 25, 2007; “Salafi Group Threatens Internet Cafes in Gaza Strip,” al-Ayyam, September 2, 2006. This event is also brought up in sources a decade later - so it is of lasting significance.Icewhiz (talk) 07:28, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

This is for instance cited here: [26], as well as a few other places in relation to Suyuf al-Haq.Icewhiz (talk) 07:31, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

And at least the WP CTC sees this group as having a wider activity than just "one guy with a fax machine" - a wide variety of intimidation/attacks against un-Islamic behavior in Gaza, particularly around Beit Hanoun.Icewhiz (talk) 07:34, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

You established the existence of the group. That's great. But you have not provided a single source that informs us that the event has actually taken place Therefore, your wording in the article "Swords of Righteousness, has thrown acid on the faces" is dubious. The CTC reference quotes Ma’an News Agency, which clearly states that those are statements made by the group. Also, you wouldn't include bombing threats in an article on Terrorism, would you? Removing from article until proper sourcing is provided. Al-Andalusi (talk) 14:59, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

You are not reading the source of Haaretz and World Tribune or the Jpost from 2008. Which confirms that attack did took place. I have reverted some other POV pushing by you just now. Capitals00 (talk) 16:45, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

one should note that the threat, made credible by just a few terrorist acid attacks on women who did not wear hijabs, has increased hijab use significantly. I believe I saw a quote claiming an increase in usage rate from 25% to 75% in Ramallah, but I will have to dig a bit more to get this in. Threats in this regard are quite significant. Regarding the reverts in the article, reverting terror acid attack against a family, which caused serious injuries, which was reportes by Reuters and numerous other world class RS (which I did not see a reason to add as they mainy replicated one another, the local Times of Israel did provide more detail) with the unsourced claim "just vinegar", not backed up by any source or talk page rationale does not seem to add up with good faith. The Sayuf al-Haq reported use of acid and threatts of additional uses is well documented, amply sourced, and reached a consensus here.Icewhiz (talk) 20:11, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

I see the "just vinegar" was pulled from Electronic-Initifada (which I doubt would be a RS), however the amended WaPo story )following investigation into the nature of the substance - [27] Israeli military and police spokesmen later said the liquid was likely “concentrated vinegar,” which contains a higher percentage of acetic acid than table vinegar and can cause burns.. Vinegar is acid to being with (household - around 3%-6%), and concentrated vinegar can be quite acidic as stated by WaPo. I will integrate this source.Icewhiz (talk) 20:28, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

Capital's blanket revert

@Capitals00:, feel free to explain your blanket revert here. Go over each and every single edit your reverted. Al-Andalusi (talk) 21:19, 2 June 2017 (UTC)