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* Lieberman was officially endorsed by the Connecticut Democratic Convention, which met in May.
* Lieberman was officially endorsed by the Connecticut Democratic Convention, which met in May.
* [supporter of the rights of gays and lesbians] to [[LGBT adoption in the United States|adopt children]]...
* [supporter of the rights of gays and lesbians] to [[LGBT adoption in the United States|adopt children]]...

==The Centrist Solution==
How about [https://www.amazon.com/Centrist-Solution-Made-Government-Again/dp/B09HN7YDLF/ref=sr_1_3 Lieberman JI. The Centrist Solution: How We Made Government Work and Can Make It Work Again Audible Audiobook – Unabridged. Kalorama (Publisher) Kalorama (Publisher).]? The audio version lists Senator Joseph I. Lieberman (Author), Rich Miller (Narrator), Kalorama (Publisher). [[User:MaynardClark|MaynardClark]] ([[User talk:MaynardClark|talk]]) 01:52, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

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Lieberman is a very conservative Democrat, not a moderate

While it's true that Lieberman is a semi-Democrat, there is nothing moderate or centrist about his opinions. When he lost the 2006 Democrat Primary, he ran as an Independent against (and beat) the Dem candidate.

As the article describes in detail, Lieberman has always received strong support and endorsements from the GOP.

Lieberman endorsed the GOP candidate, John McCain, for president in 2008.

He is strongly anti-gay, pro-Iraq war, and anti-Bill of Rights.

Lieberman is currently working to help third-party candidates split off the Independent vote from the Dems to support the election of the ultra-right GOP candidate for president in 2024. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-the-2024-presidential-alternative-many-voters-will-want/ar-AA1a0D3D

Please cite whatever facts you find about his career, but never describe right-wing Lieberman as any kind of moderate. Irelandkm (talk) 20:03, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Issues with article

  • Lede does not cover enough of what he did in the U.S. Senate
  • Lede does not mention his consideration for FBI director. That's pretty notable.
  • Article's body lacks in-depth coverage of his tenure in the Senate. Particularly missing is his stances on foreign policy and military involvement. As one of the "three amigos" (alongside John McCain and Lindsey Graham), this was one of the most defining aspects of his post-2000 election political career. Shockingly, even the existence of the popular "three amigos" nickname for the grouping of Lieberman , McCain, and Graham is absent from any mention in the article. Another thing missing is his criticism of Clinton during the Lewinsky scandal, perhaps the most notable way he distinguished himself from other Democrats during his first senate term (he was arguably Clinton's harshest Democratic detractor during the scandal despite previously having been cordial with Clinton. Leiberman was the first Democratic senator to criticize Clinton over the scandal. It is particularly notable, because one of the reasons speculated as motivating his selection for VP in 2000 was that Gore believed it would help distance his candidacy from the baggage of Clinton's scandals (another reason speculated was that Lieberman's religiousness and criticism of explicit content in Hollywood's output might protect against Republican efforts to tie Gore to Hollywood "debauchery")
  • "Criticisms" section goes against best-practices of avoiding dedicated controversies sections (best practice is to incorporate a neutral coverage of such controversies within the general body of the article rather than cordoning them off into a dedicated section)

And this is just what I noticed at a cursory look

I'll try some time to address these issues if nobody else gets to it first. SecretName101 (talk) 00:08, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hopefully some of y’all now trafficking the article due to his death can get on top of these problems.
It’s unfortunate I didn’t get to it before his death, as it will be riddled with these issues at a time when people will most look to this article to learn about the man. SecretName101 (talk) 23:47, 27 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced statements removed from text

I have removed the following items, long tagged as "citation needed", pending further discussion. BD2412 T 17:06, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Lieberman was officially endorsed by the Connecticut Democratic Convention, which met in May.
  • [supporter of the rights of gays and lesbians] to adopt children...

The Centrist Solution

How about Lieberman JI. The Centrist Solution: How We Made Government Work and Can Make It Work Again Audible Audiobook – Unabridged. Kalorama (Publisher) Kalorama (Publisher).? The audio version lists Senator Joseph I. Lieberman (Author), Rich Miller (Narrator), Kalorama (Publisher). MaynardClark (talk) 01:52, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]