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All three appear to be from the April 14 visit with [[Pat Nixon]]. So there are none from January to March of 72? The earliest we have is {{age in days|month1=12 |day1=25 |year1=1971 |month2=4 |day2=14 | year2=1972}} days old ? [[User:ScratchMarshall|ScratchMarshall]] ([[User talk:ScratchMarshall|talk]]) 20:04, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
All three appear to be from the April 14 visit with [[Pat Nixon]]. So there are none from January to March of 72? The earliest we have is {{age in days|month1=12 |day1=25 |year1=1971 |month2=4 |day2=14 | year2=1972}} days old ? [[User:ScratchMarshall|ScratchMarshall]] ([[User talk:ScratchMarshall|talk]]) 20:04, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

==Censorship of Fidel father controversy==
{{ping|Jeppiz}} re [[special:diff/826932331]] where you removed the following sources:
*{{cite web |work=[[The Sun (United Kingdom)]] |url=https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2280272/bizarre-theory-fidel-castro-is-canadian-pm-justin-trudeaus-father-emerges-online-after-internet-sleuths-discover-some-mysterious-coincidences-and-similarities/ |title=IN-FIDEL-ITY? Bizarre theory Fidel Castro is Justin Trudeau’s DAD emerges online as photo of Canadian PM’s mum gazing adoringly at late Cuban leader goes viral |first=Guy |last=Birchall |date=28 November 2016}}
*{{cite web |url=http://time.com/5164556/fidel-castro-is-not-justin-trudeaus-father/ |work=[[Time (magazine)]] |title=No, Fidel Castro Is Not Justin Trudeau's Father |date=17 February 2018 |archive-date=18 February 2018 |archive-url=http://archive.is/MbKjl |dead-url=no |quote=A theory that Castro was Trudeau’s father was also shared widely on social media after Castro’s death in 2016, when Trudeau caused an uproar over remarks praising the late Cuban leader. The Canadian government denied the reports this week.}}
re your summary:
:''Not the place for ridiculous conspiracy theories, see WP:UNDUE. Just because you can find a source for something does not mean it automatically belongs on Wikipedia. Again, see WP:UNDUE. Really...''

I did not find "a" source. I added TWO. I didn't add more because that would be bloat. While the 2016 reporting by The Sun on this wouldn't pass notability standards, Time reporting "The Canadian government denied the reports" in 2018 is grounds for us to consider it. Time refers to "reports" (plurally) and affirms government reaction to the rumor. This shows it has gone beyond mere ignorable tabloids, and is a prominent enough rumor that the Canadian government itself reacted to quash it. Governments only intervene to quash NOTABLE conspiracy theories. You don't see the Canadian government intervening to say "Justin Trudeau is not a reptilian" or similar.

Here are other sources which have reported on it:
*{{cite web |work=[[National Post]] |url=http://nationalpost.com/news/canada/no-internet-fidel-castro-isnt-trudeaus-real-father-the-canadian-prime-minister-just-really-really-looks-like-him |title=No, internet, Fidel Castro isn’t Trudeau’s real father. The Canadian prime minister just really, really looks like him |first=Tristin |last=Hopper |date=14 Feb 2017}}
*{{cite web |work=[[New York TImes]] |url=https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2018/02/17/us/ap-not-real-news-castro-trudeau.html |date=17 February 2018 |title=No, Fidel Castro Is Not Canada PM Trudeau's Father}}
*{{cite web |work=[[Daily Mail]] |url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5403955/No-Fidel-Castro-not-Canada-PM-Trudeaus-father.html |title=Canadian government is forced to deny bizarre rumor that Fidel Castro is Justin Trudeau's 'real' father |date=17 Feb 2018
*{{cite web |work=[[Global News]] |url=https://globalnews.ca/news/4032280/justin-trudeau-is-not-fidel-castro-son/ |title=No, Justin Trudeau is not Fidel Castro’s son |date=17 February 2018 |quote=A story claiming that Fidel Castro was the father of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is not true. The Canadian government denied it, Cuba has never claimed it and Trudeau’s parents never visited Cuba until several years after Justin Trudeau was born. The Feb. 1 suicide of Castro’s oldest son, Fidelito, spurred the most recent report on several sites, claiming that Fidelito left a suicide note referring to Justin Trudeau as his half-brother. A theory that Castro was Trudeau’s father was also shared widely on social media after Castro’s death in 2016, when Trudeau caused an uproar over remarks praising the late Cuban leader. The Canadian government denied the reports this week.}}
*{{Cite web |work=[[The Jakarta Post]] |url=http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2018/02/18/fidel-castro-is-not-trudeaus-real-father-canadian-govt.html |title=Fidel Castro is not Trudeau's real father: Canadian govt |date=18 Feb 2018 |quote=The Canadian government has denied multiple claims that Fidel Castro was the father of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. The Canadian government denied the report this week, the Associated Press reported. The Associated Press published the report as part on ongoing effort to fact-check misinformation that is shared widely online. A theory that Castro was Trudeau's father has widely been shared on social media after Castro's death in 2016, when Trudeau caused an uproar over remarks praising the late Cuban leader. The theory once again spurred the internet after Castro's eldest son Fidel "Fidelito" Ángel Castro Díaz-Balart, killed himself earlier this month. According to various reports, Fidelito left a suicide note behind where he addressed the 46-year-old Prime Minister as his 'half-brother'.}}
*{{cite web |work=[[Vice (magazine)]] |url=https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/wj4p55/ffs-justin-trudeau-is-not-fidel-castros-bastard-son |title=FFS, Justin Trudeau Is Not Fidel Castro's Bastard Son! |first=Mack |last=Lamoureux |date=20 Feb 2018 |quote=If you ever needed any more evidence that the internet has melted our brains and there is no return from this current hell world, the Associated Press—THE ASSOCIATED PRESS!!!—took it upon themselves to write a goddamn debunker entitled “No, Fidel Castro is not Canada PM Trudeau’s father” around this conspiracy. Thanks AP!}}

I don't think it's possible for anyone to deny how this has persisted for years and received international news coverage. It belongs as a footnote in the Castro section. [[User:ScratchMarshall|ScratchMarshall]] ([[User talk:ScratchMarshall|talk]]) 20:52, 22 February 2018 (UTC)

Revision as of 20:52, 22 February 2018

HE'S FRANCO-SCOTTISH

Trudeau is essentially Franco-Scottish and this fact should be reflected in the order of the stubs section. Instead his French and Scottish heritage is listed in a subordinate fashion giving precedence to whatever English he has in his DNA. As for the Anglo-Irish, this term is just a synonym for 'English' ergo it duplicates another stub; it might also imply an Irish connection which does not exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.167.50 (talk) 17:54, 5 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Alphabetical order does not care about your nationalistic arguments. Resolute 22:39, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
...did the OP even bother reading the section on his birth...? "As for the Anglo-Irish, this term is just a synonym for 'English' ergo it duplicates another stub" - that is so wrong that it beggars belief.--86.135.158.148 (talk) 19:23, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

He's a frat boy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.43.5 (talk) 23:45, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 19 October 2017

There is a sentence fragment in the first paragraph of this article.

It should read:

Trudeau is the youngest Canadian Prime Minister after Joe Clark. He is the eldest son of Pierre Trudeau, and the first to be related to a previous holder of the post.[3][4] Brynbecker (talk) 00:16, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Done It was not a sentence fragment, but an awkwardly arranged sentence nonetheless. I have changed it to your proposed wording. —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:08, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Earliest photo

I noticed there is https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Justin_Trudeau_in_1972 but no category for 1971, does this mean there are no photos of him from December 25-31? None showing him during the first week of life?

All three appear to be from the April 14 visit with Pat Nixon. So there are none from January to March of 72? The earliest we have is 111 days old ? ScratchMarshall (talk) 20:04, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Censorship of Fidel father controversy

@Jeppiz: re special:diff/826932331 where you removed the following sources:

  • Birchall, Guy (28 November 2016). "IN-FIDEL-ITY? Bizarre theory Fidel Castro is Justin Trudeau's DAD emerges online as photo of Canadian PM's mum gazing adoringly at late Cuban leader goes viral". The Sun (United Kingdom).
  • "No, Fidel Castro Is Not Justin Trudeau's Father". Time (magazine). 17 February 2018. Archived from the original on 18 February 2018. A theory that Castro was Trudeau's father was also shared widely on social media after Castro's death in 2016, when Trudeau caused an uproar over remarks praising the late Cuban leader. The Canadian government denied the reports this week. {{cite web}}: Unknown parameter |dead-url= ignored (|url-status= suggested) (help)

re your summary:

Not the place for ridiculous conspiracy theories, see WP:UNDUE. Just because you can find a source for something does not mean it automatically belongs on Wikipedia. Again, see WP:UNDUE. Really...

I did not find "a" source. I added TWO. I didn't add more because that would be bloat. While the 2016 reporting by The Sun on this wouldn't pass notability standards, Time reporting "The Canadian government denied the reports" in 2018 is grounds for us to consider it. Time refers to "reports" (plurally) and affirms government reaction to the rumor. This shows it has gone beyond mere ignorable tabloids, and is a prominent enough rumor that the Canadian government itself reacted to quash it. Governments only intervene to quash NOTABLE conspiracy theories. You don't see the Canadian government intervening to say "Justin Trudeau is not a reptilian" or similar.

Here are other sources which have reported on it:

  • Hopper, Tristin (14 Feb 2017). "No, internet, Fidel Castro isn't Trudeau's real father. The Canadian prime minister just really, really looks like him". National Post.
  • "No, Fidel Castro Is Not Canada PM Trudeau's Father". New York TImes. 17 February 2018.
  • {{cite web |work=Daily Mail |url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5403955/No-Fidel-Castro-not-Canada-PM-Trudeaus-father.html |title=Canadian government is forced to deny bizarre rumor that Fidel Castro is Justin Trudeau's 'real' father |date=17 Feb 2018
  • "No, Justin Trudeau is not Fidel Castro's son". Global News. 17 February 2018. A story claiming that Fidel Castro was the father of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is not true. The Canadian government denied it, Cuba has never claimed it and Trudeau's parents never visited Cuba until several years after Justin Trudeau was born. The Feb. 1 suicide of Castro's oldest son, Fidelito, spurred the most recent report on several sites, claiming that Fidelito left a suicide note referring to Justin Trudeau as his half-brother. A theory that Castro was Trudeau's father was also shared widely on social media after Castro's death in 2016, when Trudeau caused an uproar over remarks praising the late Cuban leader. The Canadian government denied the reports this week.
  • "Fidel Castro is not Trudeau's real father: Canadian govt". The Jakarta Post. 18 Feb 2018. The Canadian government has denied multiple claims that Fidel Castro was the father of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. The Canadian government denied the report this week, the Associated Press reported. The Associated Press published the report as part on ongoing effort to fact-check misinformation that is shared widely online. A theory that Castro was Trudeau's father has widely been shared on social media after Castro's death in 2016, when Trudeau caused an uproar over remarks praising the late Cuban leader. The theory once again spurred the internet after Castro's eldest son Fidel "Fidelito" Ángel Castro Díaz-Balart, killed himself earlier this month. According to various reports, Fidelito left a suicide note behind where he addressed the 46-year-old Prime Minister as his 'half-brother'.
  • Lamoureux, Mack (20 Feb 2018). "FFS, Justin Trudeau Is Not Fidel Castro's Bastard Son!". Vice (magazine). If you ever needed any more evidence that the internet has melted our brains and there is no return from this current hell world, the Associated Press—THE ASSOCIATED PRESS!!!—took it upon themselves to write a goddamn debunker entitled "No, Fidel Castro is not Canada PM Trudeau's father" around this conspiracy. Thanks AP!

I don't think it's possible for anyone to deny how this has persisted for years and received international news coverage. It belongs as a footnote in the Castro section. ScratchMarshall (talk) 20:52, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]