Talk:Millie Bobby Brown

Agency

Why is there controversy about MBB being a model. She is signed to a modeling agency. Some of you people on here should find other things to do than argue.Pictureperfect2 (talk) 01:24, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Modeling career

Edits about Millie bobby brown being a model are being reverted even when citations verifying this are available. Modelling references will be included and consensus if it should be removed or left will be discussed here Uricdivine (talk) 17:33, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

No, you need to get consensus here first, not make it up yourself. PRAXIDICAE🌈 17:36, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Make it up how I don't understand Uricdivine (talk) 17:40, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

For a consensus to be made in talk page,a topic should first be created so editors can come together to make a consensus. Or is me adding a topic a crime? And please what do you mean that I am making it up? @Praxidicae Uricdivine (talk) 17:42, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

No, you need to get consensus here for inclusion, not the other way around. Stop pinging me, stop reverting and restoring your preferred version and engage here. If you continue, I will be requesting a block at ANI or WP:ANEW since you don't seem to be understanding how discussion works. PRAXIDICAE🌈 17:44, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

What do you propose citing for the change, Uricdivine? Dumuzid (talk) 17:44, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Praxidicae what do you mean I should stop pinging you? Like how do you expect to know I replied you. Like I said my edit was not to begin an edit war or to restore my preferred edit. I made the edit so that editors can be aware that there is currently a discussion starting at talk. Uricdivine (talk) 17:47, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

So let's have that discussion. Dumuzid (talk) 17:48, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

I don't know how much clearer "stop pinging me" can be. Stop pinging me in responses, on your talk page, here or anywhere else. I have a watchlist for a reason and further, believe it or not, I'm not obligated to respond to your every whim or comment. And that simply isn't how discussions work - you don't edit war your way into getting someone's attention and the fact that you think it's appropriate makes me wonder about your ability to edit any articles, let alone just this one. PRAXIDICAE🌈 17:48, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@Dumuzid if what you mean by "citing" is my reason for opening am argument. My reason is 1. because Millie bobby brown is a model who is signed to a modeling agency 2. Her modelling career has been covered extensively by news sources 3. She has received recognition from brand agencies like Louis Vuitton vogues and countless others so I do not see the reason why her being a model is being removed. Uricdivine (talk) 17:52, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Can you point me to some of those news sources? Dumuzid (talk) 17:54, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Brown is on the Talent board with other celebrities, she is not on the Women board or Women Development board with the models (in the M category, those being the likes of Miranda Kerr, Maria Borges, Malika Louback, Mona Tougaard, Martha Hunt, Maty Fall Diba, Meghan Roche, Mia Kang, and most importantly a model is equally notable for acting: Milla Jovovich). So by definition, being signed to an agency doesn't automatically make her a model. Trillfendi (talk) 17:59, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Okay i wont ping you. And no I never said it was appropriate neither did I know it was not allowed. Forget about all this the main reason for this particular topic is if modeling references should be included or not. Uricdivine (talk) 17:56, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@Dumuzid not literally news sources just *fashion magazines*. Forgive my choice of words. The magazines and websites which have cited her as a model are reliable and I would be extremely delighted to point you to them. @Trillfendi funny you mentioned all this people because when I clicked the citations that verified them as a model most of them being model.com I searched for Millie bobby brown and it showed me her modeling details. And what do you mean being signed to a modeling agency doesn't make her a model so what does that make her?. The main point of focus should be the particular agency that she signed with and if she has received coverage for it. Uricdivine (talk) 18:20, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Please point away! Also, it would be helpful if you would use proper identing when replying to people. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 18:22, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Sometimes I can't stand being the "resident model expert" around here, because people just don't listen. What "verified" these women as a model is their careers which you can read about if you bother to look past the last parameter of the infobox. Since you bring up models.com, they only list her job as an actor and director. If they truly considered her to have a legitimate modeling career outside of acting they would say "other: model". The most they say is she acts as a model. Trillfendi (talk) 18:40, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

I don't know to add links so I would rather write it up the you look it up yourself. Models.com, vogue, Louis Vuitton,img models, people,Elle,wmagazine. Etc Uricdivine (talk) 18:31, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

With all due respect, that's not very helpful. To add links, you simply copy the URL and then put it in single brackets: These guys: ][ (but I put the ending one first and the beginning one last). If you could try to do that, I will have a look. Dumuzid (talk) 18:38, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

]https://people.com/tv/millie-bobby-brown-life-in-photos/[,. ]https://www.imgmodels.com/milliebobbybrown[.]https://www.vogue.co.uk/tags/millie-bobby-brown[. ]https://www.voguehk.com/en/article/fashion/millie-bobby-brown-june-cover/[. ]https://models.com/people/millie-bobby-brown[ @Dumuzid I have done as you asked let's see if it works. Uricdivine (talk) 19:14, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

You still need to work on using indents, but your links worked fine despite my ineptitude in trying to explain them. Of those, I see one slide in the People Magazine slideshow that mentions modelling directly, but that's all I can find? At this point, it seems like a very small facet of her overall career. Based on what I've seen, I'd say we leave it off, at least for now. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 19:18, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

Also, please stop pinging me as well. When someone is already engaged in the conversation, it's a bit pushy to ping them with every reply. Not a big deal, just FYI. Cheers again. Dumuzid (talk) 19:19, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@Trillfendi yes I did look past the infobox and yes there modeling career has received considerable coverage. This is because unlike Millie bobby brown their "career" or "profession" is just modeling. Millie has received coverage for her modeling career we all know she has received far more coverage as an actress but it does not mean her modeling career should be completely ignored. For the what you said about model.com you trying to say that "model".com included just an actress right? What do you mean that she acts as a model?. And may I asked why you mentioned only model.com what happened to vogue loius Vuitton and img models and the rest of them?. Uricdivine (talk) 19:24, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@Dumuzid why do you people ignore the credible and reliable sources referring to Millie as a model but bring your case with sources reliable but yet slightly questionable? Example model.com,vogue, Louis Vuitton and img models. How is that a facet? Her career section which says that she is a producer but according to sources she has only produced enola Holmes and is set to produce the sequel the first being her production debut but yet she is addressed as a producer In her career section but when it comes to Modeling where she has modeled for more than one organization it becomes questionable if it should be included. Uricdivine (talk) 19:40, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

For me, it's because only one of your sources (from what I can see) actually referred to that as part of her career. Celebrities pose for pictures on magazine covers all the time without being considered 'models.' Ideally, you'd want a high quality sources that says "She is a model, working for this agency and having done jobs x, y, and z. In addition, she was particularly noted for her modelling of ZZ." Again, perhaps you will convince others. But based on this, for me it's a no. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 19:44, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

I understand whay you mean. For high quality sources saying she Is a model model.com, for agency img models, for jobs done vogue and Louis Vuitton. Uricdivine (talk) 19:54, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

On those, I would defer to Trillfendi and just advise you to be careful of original research; we want someone to say "she's a model," not for her to show up on a website and us to infer that means she's a model. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 20:02, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

@dumuzid why ignore the part about her being a producer? You say you want someone to say she is a model right?. She is signed to IMG model which is an modelling agency that represents fashion models,and Millie bobby brown is signed to them. Louis Vuitton which is a fashion and luxurious brand added Millie to thier modelling family. Your saying you need a website saying she is a model so her being signed to a modeling agency does not still establish her as a model right? Uricdivine (talk) 20:35, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

That's correct. Again, not really my area of expertise, so I would listen to Trillfendi, but for the uneducated like me, I would want to see in print "she is a model" or the like, and not have to make that secondary inferential leap. Cheers. Dumuzid (talk) 20:39, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

I agree MBB is a model.Pictureperfect2 (talk) 03:55, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

]https://web.archive.org/web/20170124082943/http://www.instyle.com/news/millie-bobby-brown-calvin-klein-model-ad-campaign[ Dumzid. Uricdivine (talk) 21:52, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

]https://www.luxurydaily.com/louis-vuitton-millie-bobby-brown/[. [. [https://www.vogue.co.uk/tags/millie-bobby-brown[. http://people.com/style/millie-bobby-signs-with-modeling-agency-img/[. ]https://web.archive.org/web/20170124082943/http://www.instyle.com/news/millie-bobby-brown-calvin-klein-model-ad-campaign[. Dumuzid. Uricdivine (talk) 21:56, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

]https://www.seventeen.com/fashion/celeb-fashion/a39826661/millie-bobby-brown-louis-vuitton-ambassador/[. Uricdivine (talk) 21:57, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2022

Under the video games section of the filmography section, there is a citation with an external link that is in Spanish when there is an English version available. Please replace it. This is the link that belongs there: https://www.ea.com/games/the-sims/the-sims-4/news/millie-bobby-brown-challenge 108.35.247.117 (talk) 23:52, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done (@108.35.247.117) lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみなさい, ping me when replying 13:22, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 August 2022

It says that she is born in 1994 and her age is 18. So either the DOB is wrong or the age 86.15.200.252 (talk) 22:16, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

 Already done —Sirdog (talk) 22:24, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Entrepreneur

Millie also owns her own skin care company. Florence by Mills. Where she promotes self care and natural looks. 47.22.33.162 (talk) 17:51, 12 August 2022 (UTC)

Only notable titles and roles are added. On the contrary reliable sources you bring addressing her as an entrepreneur or business woman might help @47.22.33.162. Uricdivine^TalkToMe 17:55, 12 August 2022 (UTC)