Talk:Thomas Jefferson

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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 198.150.101.227 (talk) at 16:24, 7 December 2022 (→‎My mom is f******* g***.: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Former good articleThomas Jefferson was one of the History good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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June 25, 2006Good article nomineeListed
June 15, 2008Peer reviewReviewed
September 3, 2009Good article reassessmentDelisted
December 6, 2015Good article nomineeNot listed
Current status: Delisted good article

Recent edit summary by @Anwegmann:

In yesterday’s partial revert of @Cmguy777: Anwegmann I believe has abused the edit summary in two respects. One, the edit summary is not to be used to criticize another editor—please see WP:SUMMARYNO. Second, the language used in the summary borders on incivility—please see "Direct rudeness", at WP:IUC. More is expected of Veteran editors. Hoppyh (talk) 20:56, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes here here. Full agreement. I was using Peterson 2002 as a source. Civility is in order. Peterson was just saying Jefferson had a practical side to politics. Whatever Jefferson's anymosity was to Hamilton, Jefferson thought the national Bank had some practical uses for the nation. Peterson is a pro Jefferson historian. Cmguy777 (talk) 22:04, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies. Rudeness was not intended. I will try to check to my tone next time. Again, I apologize sincerely. Anwegmann (talk) 00:24, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your apologies. My sole purpose of the edit was to put Jefferson in the best light as President. Rather than let petty grievenes with Hamilton affect his good judgement, Jefferson was able to compromise with the national bank. A hallmark of a great President. Cmguy777 (talk) 01:24, 7 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No mention whatsoever of Jefferson's letter about Washington to Philip Mazzei?

This letter, in which Jefferson makes reference to Washington as one of "men who were Samsons in the field & Solomons in the council, but who have had their heads shorn by the harlot England." It forever ruptured the already highly-strained relationship between Jefferson and Washington and, as renowned historian Merrill Peterson put it, “No single writing from Jefferson's pen pursued him so remorselessly beyond the grave.”

Pretty important in his life I would say. 2601:643:8D00:970:B122:F143:2D28:F6E5 (talk) 09:18, 28 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Like often Jefferson was trying to achieve a style worthy of literature while not already exposed to a judgement by the public. For someone familiar with Jefferson like Mazzei, a piece like "to the rotten as well as the sound parts of the British model" couldn't but make it clear that Jefferson was not perfectly clear as to which position he was to take - relatively to the questions of the day. If the “Mazzei letter”, as it is said, prompted Jefferson to become considerably more circumspect in his correspondence, so much the better as Jefferson was to become POTUS only a little bit later. --Askedonty (talk) 12:54, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Jefferson's differences with Washington are mentioned throughout the article and it says this led him not to attend Washington's funeral. I do not see that much more detail is required, considering that there are so many important things in his life that the article needs to cover. I would say for example that writing the Declaration of Independence and his many public positions as well as his building of Monticello were much more important in his life. TFD (talk) 15:09, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 23 October 2022

Thomas Jefferson was also a Surveyor. Please include in his occupation. Thanks 98.45.214.136 (talk) 20:53, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: This is covered in the article. The infobox is for their most notable professions. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 22:03, 23 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
? There aren't any mentions of Jefferson being a surveyor in the article, it does mention that his father Peter was a surveyor. Shearonink (talk) 00:16, 24 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do we need a whole paragraph in the lead about Sally?

I figure it should be reduced to one sentence? 77.103.3.53 (talk) 02:54, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. The lead is already too long. Suggest keeping the first section mentioning her and leave the details to the body of the article. TFD (talk) 03:21, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Which part do you mean when you say the "first section"?--MattMauler (talk) 12:56, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. The last sentence can be ommited in the introduction. Possibly the Hemmings information can be reduced to one sentence. Keep the DNA information. Cmguy777 (talk) 02:21, 20 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

My mom is f******* g***.

S 198.150.101.227 (talk) 16:24, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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