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Logging

I do believe that this, being a formal sanction with community consensus, needs to be logged at WP:Editing restrictions; or am I missing something? Vanamonde (Talk) 01:18, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

I was told it was, Vanamonde93. Procedures change almost every year, so I'm honestly not certain. Best to overdo it than miss a step. -- llywrch (talk) 03:22, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Well, FWIW I am quite certain. I'd have gone ahead and done it, too, but I didn't want to tread on your toes, and I think it looks better when the closing admin logs the sanction...Vanamonde (Talk) 03:30, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Wait. I misunderstood you; I thought you said it did not need to be logged. I did log it there. Or did I do it wrong? I added it to his talk page to ensure he was aware of what happened; as I wrote, best to overdo it. --llywrch (talk)

Ooh. My bad. I looked at your contributions before you logged it, and then was looking at a cached page where the transclusion had not updated. Apologies, and thanks. Vanamonde (Talk) 14:00, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Not to worry. We're both just trying to do our best for the encyclopedia. -- llywrch (talk) 15:37, 6 August 2019 (UTC)

Uncovered possible copyright violation

Hi Llywrch, I've discovered either a possible copyright violation or a page sourced to a Wikipedia mirror at Saint Claudia (identical to this site). I was wondering what to do. I posted about it (and the fact that article is abysmal) at the Christianity noticeboard yesterday but no response so far.--Ermenrich (talk) 13:07, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Wow, @Ermenrich: that is an untidy little article. IMHO, while it is clear that it is drawn from the Catholic Online article, ours is clearly a paraphrase & not a copyvio. A bad paraphrase, & in need of some copy editing. (At least the equivalent article at the public-domain Catholic Encyclopedia provides some references.) I would rewrite it, & provide a few more sources. If you still think it's a copyright violation, post something over at Wikipedia:Copyright problems. -- llywrch (talk) 20:38, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

Cider Riot or Cider Riot brawl?

Curious, do you think there should be an article for Cider Riot or Cider Riot brawl (or similar? Cider Riot incident?) ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:00, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Another Believer, At the moment I think we ought to wait & see how this develops. It could become a very notable incident & Gibson could end up doing serious time, or it might fizzle out into nothing if a judge decides to throw out the case. (Personally, I hope the judge throws the book at Gibson. He deserves it.) -- llywrch (talk) 16:04, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Llywrch, Gibson is a troll... Thanks for your reply. ---Another Believer _(Talk) --Another Believer _(Talk) 16:14, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Hey, it's not nice to make fun of people's appearances. ;-) llywrch (talk) 16:16, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Hah! Unfortunately, his good looks are wasted. Also, I couldn't help myself... between company history, awards, reviews, and the brawl, I think there's something here. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:02, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

FWIW, I added a link to that article since "cidery" isn't a familiar word. Until now, I'd guess it is like a brew pub but instead of beer/ale it produces cider, but the relevant articles suggest something different. If it's not too much trouble, Another Believer, could you do some in-person research & determine which article best defines it. (And feel free to have a glass for me.) -- llywrch (talk) 00:26, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I've got this place on my 'to do' list, but might be a while because I don't live in the immediate vicinity. Happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:36, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Backlog Banzai

In the month of September, Wikiproject Military history is running a project-wide edit-a-thon, Backlog Banzai. There are heaps of different areas you can work on, for which you claim points, and at the end of the month all sorts of whiz-bang awards will be handed out. Every player wins a prize! There is even a bit of friendly competition built in for those that like that sort of thing. Sign up now at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/September 2019 Backlog Banzai to take part. For the coordinators, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:18, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Ethiopia

Hi, I don't know if you still edit Ehtiopian topics but User:Shevonsilva, some of those Ethiopian sub stubs look a right stink in comparison to your lovely woreda articles. Can you sort them out or delete them if needs me? Hope you're well!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:35, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello there, my good evil Doctor. If you are well, I am well. Glad to hear from you.

I took a look at a couple of articles our fellow editor created, & while I haven't done more than correct the occasional typo or fix a link with those articles over the last 10 years, the fellow has definitely (as we say on this side of the Atlantic) tried to implant the dog with offspring. One of the reasons I gave up working on Ethiopian geographical articles was that although I had finally made some sense out of the local administrative subdivisions (known as woredas), the Ethiopian government decided to reorganize a number of them. And with my resources limited to what I can find on the Internet -- I have no inside contact with anyone there -- I was unable to provide more than a few updates & corrections before giving up in frustration. Add to this the only people who have a clue about the local boundaries are the Ethiopians (1) who often have a conflict of interest in providing information, & (2) whose English is often substandard, & the result is the growing mess we now have. (It appears the Somali Region is the worst.)

Something needs to be done to clean all of this up. I really wasn't planning to work on these articles -- I've devoted what spare time my daughters allow me to gathering together information on the Tao Te Ching, which is also in sad shape -- but I might have to be the one to do it. -- llywrch (talk) 20:50, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. Yeah it can get really tricky when they create new areas and change the boundaries. It really messes everything up! Thanks for all the work you did on them anyway! Your articles are always welcome on the challenge pages like Wikipedia:WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge etc! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:45, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open

Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:38, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Help with a non-controversial page move

Hi Llywrch! I'm trying to move Das Eckenlied to Eckenlied (with redirect) because the German definite article shouldn't really be part of the name, as another user pointed out long ago. For some reason it won't let me do it. It's a completely non-controversial move, I made the page last year and just sort of unthinkingly included the article. Would you mind using your admin powers to help me?--Ermenrich (talk) 14:57, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Ermenrich, done! -- llywrch (talk) 16:08, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced

G'day everyone, voting for the 2019 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:37, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

GAR of Bengal famine of 1943

Hello. This is spam, forgive me. I'm gonna go through various GAR pages and look for people who appear active. All I'm asking for is a review, not asking for any specific outcome (i.e., not begging for a KEEP). The GAR is Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Bengal famine of 1943/1. If you review and Delist, that's OK, so long as it gets a meaningful review...

The article is big, detailed and has a terrible history in various Content Review forums. In fact, it has been residing in Content Review Hell for a couple years now... In return for a review (not a specific outcome) I'll do any kinda gnomish or research work you wish. Forex, I love converting inconsistent referencing into {{{sfn}}}, regardless of article size. I also help with all the errors that show up as described User:Lingzhi2/reviewsourcecheck. And so on. Thank you for reading this; forgive the intrusion. Cheers ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 04:27, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election half-way mark

G'day everyone, the voting for the XIX Coordinator Tranche is at the halfway mark. The candidates have answered various questions, and you can check them out to see why they are running and decide whether you support them. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:36, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

AfroCine: Join the Months of African Cinema this October!

Greetings!

After a successful first iteration of the “Months of African Cinema” last year, we are happy to announce that it will be happening again this year, starting from October 1! In the 2018 edition of the contest, about 600 Wikipedia articles were created in at least 8 languages. There were also contributions to Wikidata and Wikimedia commons, which brought the total number of wikimedia pages created during the contest to over 1,000.

The AfroCine Project welcomes you to October, the first out of the two months which have been dedicated to creating and improving content that centre around the cinema of Africa, the Caribbean, and the diaspora. Join us in this global edit-a-thon, by helping to create or expand articles which are connected to this scope. Also remember to list your name under the participants section.

On English Wikipedia, we would be recognizing participants in the following manner:

• Overall winner (1st, 2nd, 3rd places)
• Diversity winner
• Gender-gap fillers

For further information about the contest, the recognition categories and how to participate, please visit the contest page here. For further inquiries, please leave comments on the contest talkpage or on the main project talkpage. See you around :).--Jamie Tubers (talk) 00:50, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

IDK

I'm not sure why I don't drop by here more often. I do love your sense of humor. And yes, I enjoy the history lessons too. When I first started (all those many moons ago), the honorable Bishonen, Iri, and several others would often point me in the direction of a particular back-story I should know. I think one of the first "lessons" I read was the whole User:Essjay situation. Shortly after that some of the Giano and some FT2 history as well. I read because I HATE sounding like an idiot (although I do it so well). Anyway - I do appreciate your time, replies, and humor - Best always, — Ched (talk) 18:27, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Well, thanks! :-) llywrch (talk) 19:59, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Good Article Backlog Drive Barnstar

	The Working Man's Barnstar
	Thanks for your participation in the September 2019 GA Backlog drive. Your 6 reviews made a difference, as did your willingness to review particularly old nominations. The work of editors like you helped bring down the unreviewed backlog by over 35%. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 18:54, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Happy First Edit Day!

Hey, Llywrch. I'd like to wish you a wonderful First Edit Day on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! PATH SLOPU 03:21, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

It's been 17 years. Some better than other years. -- llywrch (talk) 04:15, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Thx

Okey I found some pages with Errors in the Numbers so I Did the Math and fixed them. Alejxon (talk) 17:02, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

ArbComm

Hi Llywrch

I hope that things are going well with you. You may have noticed that someone with a grudge against you has posted a blank page purporting to be from you on the ArbComm elections nominations page.

Gog the Mild (talk) 23:36, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

No, Gog the Mild, it's just me testing the Wiki & finding bugs. -- llywrch (talk) 23:38, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Ah! Fair nuff. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:39, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

ACE2019 nomination

Hello Llywrch, there appears to be some technical issues with your WP:ACE2019 self nomination. Did you follow direction (v) on Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2019/Candidates for creating your statements? — xaosflux ^Talk 23:38, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

@Xaosflux: -- Yes, at least I thought I did. But knowing my knack at finding bugs in computer software I appear to have found something wrong. -- llywrch (talk) 23:40, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

I'm going to try to fix it for you. — xaosflux ^Talk 23:53, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

I think I have fixed it. Thanks. -- llywrch (talk) 23:54, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

The Rambling Man fixed it for you, looks like you are good now. Best wishes, — xaosflux ^Talk 23:56, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Yep. I can't help but find bugs no matter what I do. :-( llywrch (talk) 23:56, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Precious

places in Ethiopia, Roman senators, and butting in

Thank you for hundreds of quality articles about Roman senators such as Avitus, hundreds of places such as Mojo, Ethiopia, historians such as William Miller (historian), news such as 1960 Ethiopian coup d'état attempt, for GA reviewing, in service from 2002, for butting in now, - Geoff, you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2308 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:01, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Wow. Always wondered if I'd get one of these. Thanks! -- llywrch (talk) 23:12, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

:) Adding my +1. And most glad to see you taking an interest in arbitration as well, however windmill-filled it may be. – SJ + 19:31, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

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Distributing rice

Hi Llywrch, thanks for your answers to my questions; they're really inspiring! I especially liked this bit This diverts money that could have gone to nurture & further improve Wikipedia, used for activities such as providing training for volunteers in copyright law, defamatory speech, research skills, or even fund access to information.. The idea of using WMF funds to provide training to help editors specialize in topics like copyright and research is great and is something I would like to see flourish. It's not particularly relevant to ACE, so I'm bringing it up here, but have you ever thought about ways to bring that about? Wug·a·po·des​ 19:08, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Wugapodes! I've tried to advocate for providing some form of benefits for Wikipedia/Wikimedia volunteers for a long time, but I've not been successful. Part of the reason is that I was unable to find how to present the idea to the Foundation in a way that they had to give it some kind of consideration. (The WMF is set up so that the employees can ignore us if they choose. They frequently establish the rules of engagement, & routinely deflect any comments they feel are "irrelevant." While this allows them to get work done without having to deal with every gadfly & troll with lame ideas, it also avoids any responsibility to the communities.) Part of the reason is that the heads of the Foundation (call them Educational Director or CEO) have failed to understand the needs of the communities. Sue Gardner was hostile to the very idea volunteers receive any form of financial aid from the Foundation; Lila Tretikov thought the MWF was solely a software non-profit; & Katherine Maher appears to be too busy travelling & meeting people to bother doing more than occasionally thinking about the volunteers, let alone ponder if we need anything. (I haven't yet gotten a feel for Ryan Merkley, the new COO. Beyond the fact he is surprisingly silent about what he wants to do as COO, let alone what he's done. In my experience, C-level types are always promoting themselves.) And part of the reason is that I'm just not very effective at agitating for a cause. So I've let this matter drop & focused on what I can accomplish.

And you're right that the ArbCom is not the medium to try to get any of these ideas implemented. That was never my intent. What I intend to do on the ArbCom is to show the Foundation that we can manage our affairs far better than they can, thus undercutting any attempt by the WMF to manage them for us. Obviously if they do take over managing disputes this will justify existing jobs, furnish a case to hire more Foundation employees, as well as make a case that the Foundation needs more money. However, if they are frustrated at attempting to assume these duties, maybe they will consider the services we've mentioned. I'm not seriously expecting that to happen, but given enough prods even the slowest & least intelligent animal will begin to move in the direction one wants. -- llywrch (talk) 21:04, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

That's quite a shame. Hopefully the idea gains some traction---I'll keep an eye out for opportunities. It seems editors have gotten their foot in the door through the Wikipedia Library which gives editors free access to paid databases. It would be nice to see that expanded. Maybe some kind of user group---like Art+Feminism---that would organize workshops for editors on copyright law or help coordinate access to sources. If you get on ArbCom you probably won't have a ton of time, but if you ever need a set of hands to help get these ideas off the ground, let me know! (Also, I didn't think your answer implied you thought ArbCom would be a venue to pursue this. I thought it was a very good answer that showed a dedication to the movement and community organization that would be a great perspective on ArbCom.) Wug·a·po·des​ 22:13, 21 November 2019 (UTC)

• Your second answer was one of the best things I've ever read about Wikipedia. I think that should go straight into an essay, with shortcuts like WP:ONLYINPRACTICE, WP:NOTINTHEORY, or WP:WHATSTHETHEORY. – Levivich 07:08, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Thanks, Levivich. It's something that I've thought about for a long while, & I owe Wugapodes big time for the opportunity to put it in writing! -- llywrch (talk) 07:19, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Support

I think you would make a fine ArbCom member, you have my support. Paul August ☎ 13:36, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

Hey, thanks Paul! -- llywrch (talk) 16:46, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

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ARIJ

Hi, Just a note: after your closing of the RfC here: Talk:Jabel_Mukaber#External_links last year, some editors now disagree about using it as a source in the articles. The discussion is at Talk:Gilo#Removal_of_ARIJ_sources, regarding edits like this. If you want to clarify your close? Huldra (talk) 23:56, 1 December 2019 (UTC)

You might want to note that the edit that the above user has linked to did not remove those ARIJ sources from the article. The misleading nature of her comment above is permeates her Wikipedia editing. Here come the Suns (talk) 00:09, 2 December 2019 (UTC)