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Talk page message

I would say that is how one leaves a message on another editors talk page. You created a heading, signed your message, and you where polite. Hyacinth (talk) 10:46, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Most people prefer, when a comment is left on their talk page, to answer on their own talk page or, when they leave a comment on someone's talk page, to be answered on the other talk page. The reasoning is that it is best to keep a conversation in one place (this would make it easier to follow now and when the talk pages get archived).
On the other hand, this means that editors will either constantly be checking other user's talk page for a response, or that one is constantly adding and removing other editor's talk pages from their watchlist. Hyacinth (talk) 00:46, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Thanks for creating the new Archduke Joseph (diamond) article, and for improving Wikipedia's coverage of gemstones. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:19, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Northamerica1000 Signed: Basemetal (talk) 02:51, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the article on the so-called Vitali chaconne

Not okay. The change of key (why clef?) signature wasn't so common before Romanticism. Modulation was, but not every modulation brings about a key change (so the two notions aren't equivalent); actually, free change of key signature wasn't in use before Mahler. Right now I can't remember very well the point I had back in 2008, but this might be one possibility.

Now that I've re-checked the manuscript, I noticed that there isn't any key signature change at all, everything goes under the single flat of G-minor-read-as-G-dorian-in-a-Baroque-fashion. So, yeah, there's a problem with my statement. However, what I most probably actually meant was that in the score there's plenty of transient (short-term) modulations, which, with the exception of tonicizations, was utterly uncommon before Beethoven and Schubert, that is before Romanticism. I'm refering here to Baroque music, not to Renaisance's musica reservata and not even Mozart's Requiem. Maybe I expressed my point in a somewhat exaggerated fashion, but the rest is correct to me. – Impy4ever (talk) 08:07, 18 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

List of Bach cantatas

The information you removed was not redundant to blind people. Consider to restore it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:13, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Massimo Firpo

no, it's an error. Excuse me. Best regards, --Teophrastus redivivus (talk) 13:48, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's because Massimo Firpo is create-protected - the above user is banned editor Kurt4 trying to recreate his article. Massimo firpo is now also create-protected. Yunshui  13:56, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You have a new message!

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Mediran talk to me! 05:41, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed

I've got a big problem: in order to work on an article I've put some copyrighted content in a subpage of my sandbox, namely user:Basemetal/sandbox/dedillo. This content is there exclusively and only temporarily just as long as I am working on the article. It will be thrown away as soon as I am done. However when I google for example the word dedillo (the topic of the projected article) that page shows up. That is very annoying. How come pages from my sandbox show up in Google? Where can I put that content (that, I repeat, will be gotten rid of eventually as soon as I'm done working on the article)? Thank you. Helpless in the sandbox. Signed: Basemetal (write to me here) 08:10, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, please see {{NOINDEX}}, this should hopefully solve your problem. -- Patchy1 08:41, 1 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

December 2012

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What's going on?

Why does any string of eight digits (of the form nnnn-nnnn, i.e. divided into two groups of four digits by a hyphen) in the range 0910-0000 to 0999-9999 turn into a Skype telephone number? What's up?
Any ISSN number (in references, etc.) which is within those ranges automatically becomes displayed as a Skype number. We do agree we don't want that, don't we?
In the range 0000-0000 to 0909-9999 and 9000-0000 to 9999-9999 they do not, as you can see. And of course any ISSN having X as the last (check) digit doesn't either.
Signed: Basemetal (write to me here) 15:27, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. Sorry. It was my browser. Nothing to do with Wikipedia. Signed: Basemetal (write to me here) 15:34, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like some page in my watchlist but not its associated talk page

How do I add a page to my watchlist without adding to my watchlist the associated talk page?
For example I'd like to add the Main page but I don't want its talk page in my watchlist.
Is this an outrageously preposterous wish?
Signed: Basemetal (write to me here) 08:15, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See if this works. Danger! High voltage! 08:37, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't so far. Here is what I did:
  • I have enhanced recent changes disabled (I suppose this is what you call enhanced recent changes: "Group changes by page in recent changes and watchlist (requires JavaScript)" and I do not have that checked in my preferences)
  • I created the file User:Basemetal/vector.css
  • In that file I inserted this line .watchlist-1-Main_page { display: none; } on a new line and by itself
Yet when I go to talk:Main page the star is still blue and when I look at my watchlist changes to that talk page still get displayed.
I also tried the Javascript method with Gary King's script and it also fails for me.
What could be the problem? Some unwanted interaction? Do you know anyone who's actually made this work?
Signed: Basemetal (write to me here) 11:37, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
PS: Second request
You could try posting your question at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical), including a description of the steps you've tried so far. I have no idea how to do this, but people there may have ideas. Dreamyshade (talk) 13:03, 17 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Henry Greenway's Harps

The information I have about the harp came directly from the museum's identifying label, which I used for my comment about it. (I'm certain I have a photo of the label somewhere, but it has been a few years since I was in Vermillion, and since then, I have taken thousands of photos, so it won't be easy for me to find.) The label may mean this is one of only two harps of this type that Henry Greenway made himself, not that they are the only two of this type in existence. There was no indication that he invented this harp form. (I am writing to you from France.) Amicalement, Charvex (talk) 06:47, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

« Mais les photos semblent tellement différentes. » (!!) I think you are mistaken. The instruments in the two photos look identical to me : SVP, look at the scroll work on the sound board and the myriad of details. The museum's photo is very brightly lighted (and has enjoyed the enhancements of Adobe PhotoShop), and mine does not. This is all. -- I believe the other Henri Greenway harp of this type is in the collection of the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York, which is really digging deep in my mind, but I think it is correct. May I suggest that you search the records of that museum's fine musical instrument collection? --- At the time I saw it, the Vermillion museum's label did not have the identical words that now appear on the web site. --- I certainly do not take inspiration from the air to write my comments for Wikipédia articles. My words in the article were factual to the best of my knowledge at the time. (Those personal comments to you yesterday, written above, were speculation.) Bonne continuation et bonne quête ! Charvex (talk) 06:15, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again. When you write a new article for Wikipédia, it is beneficial to add things such as Sources (re to texts from references mentioned is OK because it will help readers to know where to go to find more) ; See also links (think of at least a few related Wikipédia articles) ; Categories (birth and death date categories are not enough, think of related subject matter) ; and whenever possible, an Image (search WikiCommons, or go to Google Images search, snag it, and then add it to WikiCommons and your article). Adding a WikiProject category to the Talk page is also good. --- These things will give your article more substance, and more important, it help you avoid the over-zealous WikiPolice. --- I added these things to your Henry Greenway article for you, so you can see what I mean. --- Tchao ! Charvex (talk) 09:13, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Redlinks russi in questa pagina?

E' un problema del tuo pc, non della voce, probabilmente ti sei preso qualcosa--Shivanarayana (talk) 23:37, 27 January 2013 (UTC) --Shivanarayana (talk) 23:37, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Avevi ragione. Grazie. Signed: Basemetal (write to me here) 00:28, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback: you've got messages!

Hello, Basemetal. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals).
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Hebrew text

Hello Basemetal. I'm not entirely sure what the problem you're having is. Could you elaborate? Cheers, Number 57 11:47, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Here's the beginning of the source file for Yehoshua Hankin

'''Yehoshua Hankin''' ({{lang-he|יהושע חנקין}}, born 1864, died 11 November 1945) was a [[Zionism|Zionist]] activist who was responsible for most of the major land purchases of the [[World Zionist Organization]] in [[Ottoman Empire|Ottoman]] [[Palestine]].

Now, when an editor tries to change "born 1864, died 11 November 1945" into "1864-1945" (to make it comply with some standard format for date of birth and death, whatever, that's not important) at the moment you get rid of the word "born" in "born 1864, died 11 November 1945" on your way to make it into "1864-1945", suddenly the date "1864" jumps to the left of יהושע חנקין and the template code break into {{lang-he|יהושע חנקין}}, 1864. Just watch

'''Yehoshua Hankin''' ({{lang-he|יהושע חנקין}}, 1864, died 11 November 1945) was a [[Zionism|Zionist]] activist who was responsible for most of the major land purchases of the [[World Zionist Organization]] in [[Ottoman Empire|Ottoman]] [[Palestine]].

See what happened as soon as I deleted the last letter of "born".

If this is not clear, I'll demonstrate in slow motion:

I get rid of the "n" of "born"

'''Yehoshua Hankin''' ({{lang-he|יהושע חנקין}}, bor 1864, died 11 November 1945) was a [[Zionism|Zionist]] activist who was responsible for most of the major land purchases of the [[World Zionist Organization]] in [[Ottoman Empire|Ottoman]] [[Palestine]].

Now I'm getting rid of the "r"

'''Yehoshua Hankin''' ({{lang-he|יהושע חנקין}}, bo 1864, died 11 November 1945) was a [[Zionism|Zionist]] activist who was responsible for most of the major land purchases of the [[World Zionist Organization]] in [[Ottoman Empire|Ottoman]] [[Palestine]].

Now I'm getting rid of the "o"

'''Yehoshua Hankin''' ({{lang-he|יהושע חנקין}}, b 1864, died 11 November 1945) was a [[Zionism|Zionist]] activist who was responsible for most of the major land purchases of the [[World Zionist Organization]] in [[Ottoman Empire|Ottoman]] [[Palestine]].

And now, pay attention, I'm gonna get rid of the "b"

'''Yehoshua Hankin''' ({{lang-he|יהושע חנקין}}, 1864, died 11 November 1945) was a [[Zionism|Zionist]] activist who was responsible for most of the major land purchases of the [[World Zionist Organization]] in [[Ottoman Empire|Ottoman]] [[Palestine]].

Bam! See what happened? Why? Since you seem to be familiar with mixing Latin and Hebrew text in a file, maybe you've got

  1. an explanation
  2. a way around it

Cheers Signed: Basemetal (write to me here) 16:56, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

PS Check out my Hebrew Wikipedia user and talk pages. Signed: Basemetal (write to me here) 17:21, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I've seen this problem before, and have no idea what causes it. Sometimes it works fine, sometimes it goes mental as you've described above. The only solution I found was to add "born XXXX, died XXXX rather than using the conventional format. However, I've just edited the Hankin article, and although the coding looks messed up, the article displays correctly (at least in my browser). I've also seen that someone has recently edited the {{Lang-he}} template to add a right-to-left function. Perhaps this fixed it. Number 57 20:31, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Bathroom humor

Hi Basemetal,first of all I am honored that you feel my article worthy for inclusion in your anecdotes. Definitely let me know what came out of that. As for the statement, i first added it when I wrote the article (which, by the way, was one of the quickest articles ever to gain feature status, only coconut crab (also by me) was faster, methinks. When I added it i was fully aware that a lot of people will find the idea of masturbating with a toilet revolting. But then, when you talk with emergency room doctors you will find out that they have to deal on a daily basis with surgically removing "masturbation aids" out of somebody's rectum or elsewhere (from lubricated rodents to mobile phones). Hence I added the info anyway, since Wikipedia should not care if the information is likeable, only if it is true. On that respect, my source was also rather weak, the equivalent of the british "yellow press". But since then others brought up many more sources, albeit none of them "scientific". Unfortunately, due to demands in my real life I did not have the time to follow this problem up close, and only acted if people wanted to remove the whole article from feature status on the grounds of yuckiness. It was eventually removed due to lack of citations, which i did not have the time to fix (again - real life demands). Hope this info helps. Also, if you are looking for lore, you can also go into the "Gdansk" vs. "Danzig" conflict, including edit wars with behind the scenes email collaboration to push the polish name. Cheers -- Chris 73 | Talk 09:06, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]