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Adolf Naef edits

Hi Diannaa, thanks very much for your comments and guidance on my edits to the Adolf Naef article--they're extra appreciated, as I am new to editing Wikipedia. Can you point out which specific edit(s) of mine was/were the cause of copyright concern? In thinking back over my changes, I've identified three possibilities:

1. The photograph of Naef that I added to the infobox. I believe it is in the public domain based on its date--but is that insufficient? I realize on re-reading image copyright guidelines that it may be. Sadly, I haven't been able to track down any more details about that photo, but I have found another photo of Naef that, according to the library of the University of Zurich, will be in the public domain in 2019. Perhaps Naef will just have to remain invisible until then!

2. I moved several existing citations from "References" into a new "Works" subheading, because they did not fit my understanding of a citation. For example: the existing sentence "Naef visited and worked in Anton Dorn’s Zoological Station in Naples, Italy in 1908, studying the squid Loligo vulgaris, the subject of his dissertation." was followed by two references which comprised Naef's actual dissertation (a primary source). I found the information in that sentence--Naef's travel location and date and study subject--in multiple secondary sources, along with more details. So I expanded the sentence into two: "Naef visited Dohrn's Zoological Station in Naples, Italy in 1908. Although initially planning to collect eggs from a variety of animals, he ended up studying the embryology of the squid Loligo vulgaris." and cited a published biography (Boletzky 2000) with the understanding that secondary sources are generally preferred for Wikipedia citations. And I moved the two primary sources (Naef's dissertation) into Works, a subheading I had seen in other biographies (e.g. Arnold Lang). If this sort of change is frowned upon, I'd love to understand which part of my reasoning was flawed.

3. I have only just realized that the page's existing text (previous to any edits of mine) included an extensive copy-paste from the external page, "Adolf Naef - A Potted Biography." (I had added a link to that page under Further Reading during one of my edits, an addition which I now understand to be an error and which was deleted by XLinkBot.) The copied text runs from "Naef’s studies were framed within..." all the way to "...the Handwörterbuch der Naturwissenschaften." and it is, of course, still present on the page, since I was not the one who added it. I would be delighted to rewrite this section from scratch and I dare to think I could even make it somewhat more accessible to a general audience.

If the problem is not any of these three, I am certainly very eager to learn about and correct it! To my knowledge, all the text that I added was my own original composition and not published elsewhere, so it would be quite surreal to discover otherwise.

All the best, Cephalopodiatrist (talk) 22:33, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Your edits (all three edits) were removed by a bot, as you included a link to a blog (http://urhomology.blogspot.ca/2007/11/adolf-naef-potted-biography.html). Checking closely, I see that the blog is dated November 28, 2007, and the content in question was added to our article November 27 (the previous day). Therefore the blog copied from Wikipedia rather than the other way around. None of the overlapping content was added by yourself. So I was incorrect to warn you about copyright violations for those two reasons. I made a mistake and I apologize. I have restored your edits, except for the link to the blog, as there's nothing much there that we don't already have, and blogs are user-generated content and not considered suitable to add. Sorry your experience on Wikipedia has not been very good so far! — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:18, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the quick and kind response! I hope to continue contributing as I am able. Cephalopodiatrist (talk) 03:49, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Copyright problem on Amy Castle (entomologist)

Whoops, thank you for picking that up. A placeholder that I intended to come back to but clearly forgot. StellaMcQ (talk) 01:20, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Copyright

Janet Holmes (linguist)

Hi Diannaa,

Thanks for letting me know. Could you please point out which part of the content did you take out?

Regards, TomCa — Preceding unsigned comment added by TomCa (talk • contribs) 03:01, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

The content was immediately after "Janet has published widely on an array of topics" and was identical to the source. It needs to (as much as possible) be paraphrased by putting it into your own words, putting the material in a different order, etc. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:38, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

User:Dushyantkumar

Hi Diannaa. Hope you're having a nice summer.

Despite the warning you left on their user talk, Dushyantkumar went ahead and uploaded File:Naagini Kannada.jpg as "own work". I went ahead and tagged it for speedy deletion per WP:F9 since it can be found in various place online prior to upload, but the editor in general seems to be having some major difficulty with image files. Not sure whether another attempt to explain image usage to them will have different results since they do not seem to be responding to posts left on their user talk. Maybe a short block will get their attention?

Their difficulty also seems to extend to articles as well since they have also created Naagini (TV Series), which is in a pretty bad state. Any opinions on whether the article is worth keeping? -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:23, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

We can't keep the image, even for fair use, as the only sources I can find are copyvio YouTube videos. I can't find any sources online for this TV show so it might be a prod candidate. Short blocks don't work well for copyvio; the editors tend to resume what they were doing immediately after the block expires. So I use and indef-block and will unblock if and when the editor can provide us with a statement that demonstrates that they have read and understand our copyright policy and intend to follow it in the future. Then after the unblock I monitor their contribs until I am sure they have got it. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:57, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for taking a look. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:17, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Possibly overly long quotations

Greetings. There is a lot of quote-blocked material at Wladimir Klitschko#Retirement, with sources, but I'm thinking the amount of words may exceed WP's copyright policies. Mac Dreamstate (talk) 19:20, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

The quotes are excessive and not very enlightening. I have removed them. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:32, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

RevDel request

This article has some copyright issues. - NitinMlk (talk) 22:30, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Diannaa, I've cleaned the article and marked it for RD1. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:14, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

 Done — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 11:45, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you. BTW, this article is in need of revdel. - NitinMlk (talk) 17:50, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

I had a look and found some fairly minor copyvio. The material from radioandmusic.com is a big quotation and the webpage http://www.newsindiatimes.com/awesome-arijit/26475 copied from us rather than the other way around. I am stopping now. If you see something here that I am missing please let me know. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:14, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. There seems to be a bit more coyvios left. So, I will check it tomorrow. - NitinMlk (talk) 17:54, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

I have removed some copyvio added from http://www.zoom4india.com:80/entertainment/features/item/79193-my-life-has-always-been-a-mess.html on April 1. The large quotations are throwing off the copyvio detector results. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:49, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks again. :) NitinMlk (talk) 20:05, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

patten (band) - Need help with possible copyvio

Hi Diannaa!

At first I thought the last addition of text in the article patten (band) was copied from https://vk.com/wall291434180_1922 (September 2016), but it appears as though that post was taken from http://wayback.archive.org/web/20160926190655/http://new-team.org/viewtopic.php?t=67993, which was archived in Septemer 2016. The text however appeared on Wikipedia in this revision from July 2016 before being removed for being promotional. Not sure who is copying who here. Could you help investigate if this is a copyvio, or backwards copy, an if we need to (revert the artice, and) do WP:RD1s?

Thanks! (t) Josve05a (c) 02:49, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Noting the addition uses an access date of 9 March 2014 for some of the content, I checked back further and found that's when some of it was originally added, and the remainder was added on July 14, 2016, which is prior to the date of the earliest archived version of the new-team.org web page. So it looks to me like the page is a Wikipedia mirror. It also looks like someone with a conflict of interest is posting on the two websites (new-team.org and Wikipedia) in parallel. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 11:57, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Unattributed copy/pastes

Please can you find time to look at my comment here. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 07:26, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

I agree with your assessment. Let's wait a few days or a week and see if anyone responds to your comment before rolling back to an old version. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:02, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Hey @Sitush: I went ahead and did this today as per your suggestion. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:23, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm glad you remembered because I didn't! - Sitush (talk) 07:00, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia and copyright, user kevinpwong

Hi Diannaa, thanks for the info. Want to make sure I'm updating wiki correctly. I edited the iHeartRadio wiki page because I work for the entity's parent company and need to update the app's functions and services - for instance, in December/January we launched an on-demand subscription service for music streaming, and that is not detailed in the page.

What's the best way to do this? We included citations along with the information, including articles from news outlets as well as press releases. Should I send you the information first for review? Thanks, let me know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevinpwong (talk • contribs) 14:57, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Kevinpwong. Thank you for your interest in working on wikipedia. There are a couple of problems with your submission. You cannot post copyright material on Wikipedia even if you are the copyright holder, unless special licensing permissions are in place. That is because Wikipedia aims to be freely distributable and copyable by anyone, and all content must have the appropriate documentation in place before that can happen. Please see Wikipedia:donating copyrighted materials which explains how it works.

The second problem is conflict of interest. Writing an article about your own organisation or that of a client is strongly discouraged, as it is difficult to maintain the required neutral point of view. According to our terms of use, paid editors and people editing on behalf of their employer are required to disclose their conflict of interest by posting a notice on their user page or talk page. Another editor has placed some information about conflict of interest on your user talk page. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:32, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Words count

Hi Diannaa, how does someone go about checking the amount of words an article contains? Thanks.--Sein und Zeit (talk) 20:28, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi there Sein und Zeit. The way I do it is via a script: User:Dr pda/prosesize. This script excludes block quotes, captions, tables, and the like. Another alternative is to paste the article into a text editor and use it to perform the word count. Doing it that way on the Hitler article using TextEdit on the MacBook gives a word count of 13,909 including all words, even the [edit] links (to the bottom of the article proper, excluding See-also and below). For our purposes the script is a better option. If you need any help getting started using scripts, please let me know and I will try to help. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 21:08, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Sorted. Thanks very much.--Sein und Zeit (talk) 11:01, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Your comments and edits were very helpful. I'll take a bit more time and make sure to properly site and make necessary updates in accordance with the terms you helpfully provided. Shabby2020 (talk) 21:06, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

List of Birds

Hi Dianaa, as part of new page patrol I just came across List of birds of Grand Canyon National Park and List of birds of Channel Islands National Park. It seems the underlying data is taken from the national parks websites for Grand Canyon and Channel Islands], so as I understand it, if attributed, is public information as government website. However, the source is not attributed, which would be a minor offense. The NPS seems to take their data for Grand Canyon National Park from a publication called "Birds of Grand Canyon" by the Grand Canyon Association. I was wondering if this would then still fall under the government website waiver or may raise copyright concerns as we would know what license the NPS has? I think for the Channel Islands list this is more straight forward as the list is published in the name of the NPS. The main concern really is if this would fall under general indiscrimiate lists of things... _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk

Hi Jake. These are part of a series of articles created by Craigthebirder. The prose in each article has been copied from the related Wikipedia articles (for example, in List of birds of Grand Canyon National Park, the prose about plovers was copied from Charadriidae). Alphabetical lists are not copyrightable. Whether the articles merit inclusion in the encyclopedia or not is beyond the scope of my Wiki-fu. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:36, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Great, thanks for clarifying. _pseudonym Jake Brockman ^talk 13:49, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

User: Moldykarkin

Hi Diannaa. I saw the recent edits to Cumbria Police and Crime Commissioner and wanted to make you aware of another article. You may have already checked it out, but I wanted to bring Craig Mackey (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) to your attention, as the user has added material there which could be copyvio. Apologies if you've already looked into this. Cheers, This is Paul (talk) 22:17, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Paul and thanks for the tip. I am looking at Craig Mackey and Cumbria Constabulary. That's all he's edited so far is these three articles. Craig Mackey: I found no copyvio per se, some of the quotation came from http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20140122182235/http://www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Witness-Statement-of-Deputy-Commissioner-Craig-Mackey2.pdf which is likely public domain or Open Govt License, but still. Regardless, I removed all his edits as unsourced. On Cumbria Constabulary I found his additions were not copyvio but again it's unsourced. On Cumbria Police and Crime Commissioner, some of the stuff that was removed was copy vio and some was similar unsourced negative stuff. I am going to contact the oversight team and see if they think the additions on all three articles warrant oversight. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:03, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Sounds like a good plan, particularly as he restored the unsourced stuff. This is Paul (talk) 21:24, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Update: Oversight was not done as it was not quite over that line, but they revision-deleted the material. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:25, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Olympic plagiarist back?

Just a heads up, no action needed, but we may have the IP/editor (sock farm?) that added so much copyvio/plagiarized content to the Los Angeles bid for the 2024 Summer Olympics back. I reverted one edit that substantively was a direct lift from an article in the LA Times, then later rewrote it; the editor (User:RKO Radio Pictures) just reverted to their version with no explanation. There's even a discussion of the edit, after a fashion, on the talk page, so no excuses for the revert. I'll keep an eye on it, but thought you should be aware there might be a new problem. Best! ----Dr.Margi ✉ 21:42, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Drmargi and thanks for the alert. Are there any revisions that need to be revision-deleted? — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 22:15, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Maybe soon. I just gave the editor a warning, and I'd like to see if it works, then we can revdel away! ----Dr.Margi ✉ 22:34, 10 August 2017 (UTC)

Later... Go ahead and revdel. The response to my warning was a recommendation I travel to a very hot place. Somehow, I don't see a lot of cooperation on the horizon. Do you need links? ----Dr.Margi ✉ 00:33, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

I think I got it all. Thanks for the report. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 11:18, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

You've got it all. Thanks again. ----Dr.Margi ✉ 11:45, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm not 100% sure rev-del-ing was needed here, particularly since there wasn't any consensus in the discussion Drmargi references for her interpretation of COPYVIO. We're talking about two sentences, neither of which were direct lifts. Most of the length of the removal is due to removal of sources; Drmargi removing them along with the text she didn't like is questionable in and of itself.

I'm also a bit displeased by the incendiary language Drmargi is using toward RKO, which I see as part of a disturbing pattern of OWNership by Drmargi of the LA 2024/2028 article (I tried to discuss this with Drmargi on her talk page; instead of responding to my concerns in a reasonable manner, she accused me of "throwing a tantrum"). The article's history is loaded with Drmargi reverting almost everyone else who edited the article. The article's talk page is loaded with Drmargi badgering everyone who disagrees with her. It's no wonder RKO cussed Drmargi out...Drmargi has been far too unkind toward him. me and virtually anybody else. Mind you, this is a person who has been stalking User:Robberey1705 for some time now, so it's not by any means her first instance of misbehavior. pbp 04:40, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Purplebackpack89, and thank you for your concern. I did my own check and determined it was copyvio before I did the revision deletion. This is not the place to discuss behavioural issues as I don't have time to help. Clearing yesterday's copyvio reports took eight hours and spending any additional time online is bad for my health so you will have to find another way to solve your disagreements. Sorry, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:37, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

User:brandongunderson

Hello Diannaa,

I'm new here so all the new wiki markup and guidelines are new to me. Could you please clarify what was wrong in my page with copyright issues that prevented the page from being published? I hope to prevent this issue in future pages and edits I make as well. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks so much.

Brandongunderson (talk)

Material that you included in the draft is identical to content on the copyright web page http://www.fashionablecanes.com/Dr-Gregory-House-Walking-Canes.html. We do not accept copyright content unless the copyright holder has released the material under a compatible license. Please see Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright for a simplified description of how copyright law applies to Wikipedia editing, or have a look at the copyright policy page WP:Copyrights. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:31, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

If I omit that content until I edit it myself or try to contact the company, can the page still be published without it? Thanks again for your help on the matter.

Brandongunderson (talk)

I already removed the copyvio content. I recommend submitting your draft for review by adding the template {{AFC submission}} to the top of the page so that an experienced reviewer can assess your draft. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:17, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

There was no copyvio, please restore

On my talk page I found the following notifications:
(Deletion log); 12:46 . . Diannaa (talk | contribs) changed visibility of a revision on page Garmsar: content hidden ‎(RD1: Copyright violations: https://www.waterlog.info/pdf/garmsar.pdf)
(diff | hist) . . Garmsar‎; 12:46 . . (-593)‎ . . ‎Diannaa (talk | contribs)‎ (remove copyright content copied from https://www.waterlog.info/pdf/garmsar.pdf)
The reference used says: "Public domain". Hence there is no copyvio. Please restore the deletion. Water and Land (talk) 20:44, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

I have restored it and added the required attribution. Please do this in the future so that our readers will be aware that you copied the prose rather than wrote it yourself. Sorry for the mistake. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:53, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Crown copyright#United Kingdom

While I probably should have rewritten the text in my own words, at Crown copyright#United Kingdom, in the bulletpoints, you will find that text on official Government websites is specifically waived from copyright protection, in order to improve access to government information. Would you please roll back your edits to Royal Army Medical Corps so I can commence the rewriting process. Kind regards Buckshot06 (talk) 23:13, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

Sorry but I can't do that, because the specific web page you copied from (http://www.army.mod.uk/medical-services/29940.aspx) has a copyright notice © 2017 Crown Copyright. I was surprised by this because much of the UK government pages are released under the Open Government License or Open Parliament License. This particular webpage is not. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 23:46, 11 August 2017 (UTC)

1300–1400 in European fashion

Actually, and for the record, I realized afterwards it wasn't a copyvio, but material had (I think just by accident, by someone trying to paste into their homework perhaps) been duplicated from a little lower down in the article. This had also been used by the crap book I found on a search, but was original to WP, in fact I wrote some of it years ago. Sigh. Johnbod (talk) 01:58, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. It gets complicated sometimes! I have reversed the revision deletion. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:33, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! Johnbod (talk) 14:21, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Confusing edition​ my Talk page

@Diannaa: Hey there 8 hrs ago you added a new section on my Talk page about Hindu Cosmology and about its deletion but nothing has been changed on Hindu Cosmology page Please double check what have you done on my Talk page User: IndianEditor 🍁 (talk) 8:09,12 August 2017 (UTC)

The content was removed by another editor, not myself. The removed material was copied from http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~goyal/age_of_universe.php or elsewhere online and the edit was reported by a bot on our copyright violation report. So I visited the article to do revision deletion and notified you as to our copyright rules. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:39, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Draft:The Mars Generation - No Copyright or Image Use Issues

Hi Diannaa!

There were no copyright or image violation issues since the owner provided the content and image for the Draft:The Mars Generation Wikipedia page.

I just talked to her and she will rewrite the intro/mission/history so there are no future issues...she said it was just easier that way. She wants to know how she can provide Wikipedia written permission to use The Mars Generation logo image. She also changed her mind on what licensing category the image should fall under but I don't think I'm able to do that. Do we just delete the image and upload it again?

On a different note, I would like to move the Draft:The Mars Generation page into my sandbox to work on it, but I have a redirect link in sandbox. Is it possible to move the Draft:The Mars Generation Wikipedia page into my sandbox?

Thank you Diannaa!

--Tracykarin (talk) 21:50, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your interest in working on wikipedia. There are a couple of problems with your submission. You cannot post copyright material on Wikipedia even if you are the copyright holder, unless special licensing permissions are in place. That is because Wikipedia aims to be freely distributable and copyable by anyone, and all content must have the appropriate documentation in place before that can happen. Please see Wikipedia:donating copyrighted materials which explains how it works. Normally we permit logos as fair use, but they are not allowed in draft space or sandboxes, only in article space. So we can re-add the logo when the draft is accepted for publication.

The second problem is conflict of interest. Writing an article about your own organisation or that of a client is strongly discouraged, as it is difficult to maintain the required neutral point of view. According to our terms of use, paid editors and people editing on behalf of their employer are required to disclose their conflict of interest by posting a notice on their user page or talk page. I have placed some information about conflict of interest on your user talk page. Third question: your draft could be moved to a userspace sandbox, but there's no point in doing that, as the same rules are in place regarding copyright etc. and it is no more private and functions in exactly the same way as a draft. I have removed the redirect from your sandbox so you can use it for something else if you like. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:24, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for your alarm. That was true. I did not summarize the content.--Saber gouiez (talk) 05:48, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Arlington County Police Department

Diannaa - could you double-check your last edit here? Alchetron is a simple mirror and attributes Wikipedia at the bottom of their article. Kuru (talk) 16:16, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Kuru. The content was added at 01:56, December 24, 2009. The content also appeared at http://www.arlingtonva.us/Departments/Police/divisions/operations/sos/PoliceDivisionsOperationsSosDefault.aspx which was the citation included at the time the content was added and is now a dead link. The archive link is here. Click through on the links "Auxiliary Officer Unit", "Crisis Negotiation Unit", and so on to view the copyright content on the Arlington Virginia Police website. I will add a correction edit summary and will cross-post this data to the article's talk page. Sorry, I should have done this before I left for the gym, I knew my edit summary for that one was wrong and I should have fixed it. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 18:47, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Perfect - I assumed it was a bookkeeping issue, just wanted to make sure. Thanks for your tireless efforts! Kuru (talk) 15:17, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Re: Jugular Street Luge Racing

The website you provided has nothing to do with the material I supposedly "copied" from. My article was on a video game, while that weblink is to some college school. Please do not post links that have nothing to do with my "violation". I'll paraphrase from now on. You don't have to remind me again. Thanks. Videogameplayer99 (talk) 21:18, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, the correct url where I found the matching content was http://ca.ign.com/games/jugular-street-luge-racing/pc-661378. It was a copypaste error on my part. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 21:20, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Draft:The Mars Generation - No Copyright or Image Use Issues

Hi Diannaa!

Thank you for your response and making my sandbox available! I am fairly new at Wikipedia and realize there are many rules that everyone must follow to maintain Wikipedia's integrity and that's a good thing cause I Wikipedia is a great resource of unbiased information.

I am not a paid editor for any business, organization, or person and do not expect to receive and would never accept payment or compensation of any sort from anyone. I am a retired disable vet and my passion is to promote STEM/STEAM education, especially for our children. Creating a page on Wikipedia provides me the opportunity to do this and just have read and follow *all* of the rules.

I downloaded The Mars Generation logo from their Press Room webpage...this is the link that is on their page that I downloaded the image from: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B899A57P7J9Za3ZWZEkxMEFjQjA/view?usp=sharing Since they provide the images to the Press, I assumed it was okay to use because when I read Wikipedia's rules on logo use, it says that logos with simple typefaces, individual words or geometric shapes are up-loadable without permission. When the image was tagged for deletion, I contacted the owner to ask for permission, she asked what licensing category I was using and said she did not want me using the one I selected. So I said I would need permission for the logo and was asking how I can provide that.

I will assure you that I will not copy any information from their website and their will be no copyright infringement and I will check and remove any links or citations that link back to the website.

Thank you for your guidance and support Diannaa...it's must appreciated!

Tracykarin (talk) 22:34, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Right to material from the owner

I received a message from you stating that t had used copyrighted material without evidence of permission but i have been given the right by the owner to use it to upload it on the page. Should i post it again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhruvdube (talk • contribs) 16:46, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

@Dhruvdube: No, don't. How are we to verify that you have that permission? Ian.thomson (talk) 19:21, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

This is regarding the article Vinay Sahasrabuddhe. You cannot post copyright material on Wikipedia even if you are the copyright holder or have their permission, unless special licensing permissions are in place. That is because Wikipedia aims to be freely distributable and copyable by anyone, and all content must have the appropriate documentation in place before that can happen. Please see Wikipedia:donating copyrighted materials which explains how it works. There's a sample permission email at WP:Consent. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:26, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Hitler friends

I got a real problem with the new addition....but don't feel like getting involved with 2 edit warriors......things going downhill fast back and fourth edits changing the meening of the text. I wonder how much knowledge these two have of this topic really.....as ones using a primary source all over... the other ones quoting the Globe and Mail. Would be interested to know it these 2 editor have ever read anything about Ernst Moritz Hess.--Moxy (talk) 20:16, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

I had to stop reading the talk page for a couple reasons, and am simply trying to perform copy edits and check the citations to verify they back up what's been added / changed. I do this because it's important to me that the article maintain its GA status. I was surprised to see a copyvio being added. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:24, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Can we get you to delete Hitler Sein und Zeit (talk | contribs) Revision as of 11:48, August 15, 2017 ....copy paste of "Hitler, 1889-1936: Hubris 1998, Volume 1 page 81....and later version Ian Kershaw (2013). Hitler. Penguin Books Limited. p. 16. ISBN 978-0-14-190959-2.. Will let you issue second warning if you like.--Moxy (talk) 17:36, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

I will do the rev-delete and issue a warning. Note this is a different editor from the one who did the copyvio yesterday (that was Mystichumwipe). Thank you for the report. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:35, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Copyright problem on Crown Memorial State Beach

Diannaa, The image you describe was already on the subject page before I started working on it. While I have done some editing of text on the subject text, including slightly changing the size of the photo to fit the inbox, I did not add (or subtract) images already on the page. I'm no expert on copyrights, and I have learned to leave adding/deleting images up to professionals who are. Bruin2 (talk) 01:40, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

The problem was not the image, it was the prose you added, which was copied pretty much unaltered from the copyright website http://www.ebparks.org/Parks/Crown_Beach. I removed it. Prose you find online is almost always copyright, and cannot be copied here; it's against the law to do so. All prose must be written in your own words. There's more information about copyrights and how it applies to Wikipedia at [Wikipedia:FAQ/Copyright]]. Copyright law and its application are complex matters, and you should not edit any more until you have taken the time to read and understand our copyright policy. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:20, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Rephrased content

Is okay if i post the content in my own words? Do i have to give source for that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhruvdube (talk • contribs) 05:49, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

All content you add to this wiki needs to be written in your own words, and all content you add needs a source. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:16, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Visa policy of the Schengen Area

You flagged my recent edit as a possible copyvio. It was copied, but not from the site you suggested. It was from the referenced PDF, available at [1] (select the EN / PDF). The EU's copyright statement is available here [2]. I'm not sure if that's free enough for Wikipedia's use. LongHairedFop (talk) 18:17, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

I am not sure, but my opinion is that it is not liberal enough, as it does not explicitly permit derivative works. You might consider asking them at the email address provided at http://eur-lex.europa.eu/content/legal-notice/legal-notice.html#droits — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:33, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

I've asked Wikipedia's copyright gurus on Wikipedia:Media copyright questions#EU document copyright. ---- LongHairedFop (talk) 19:57, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

@LongHairedFop: It would make it easier to figure out what citation goes with what content if the citation is placed *after* the content, not before. Also, in the future, please add attribution when copying from public domain sources: simply add the template {{PD-notice}} after your citation. Please do this in the future so that our readers will be aware that you copied the prose rather than wrote it yourself. Thanks, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 20:30, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Jay Franklin (baseball)

You just about drove me off Wikipedia...

• First, by editing the page as you did, you made it impossible to see specifically which material you "redacted".
• Second, Wikipedia's policy on biographies requires referencing from trusted sources. How many trusted sources do you think are available on an individual who spent just three weeks in the majors? Would you have preferred the article remained a stub?
• Third, you deleted material that is a matter of record; and a baseball pitcher's career record is nearly universally written in the same manner and order. - "Franklin posted a career record of 28-1 with 363 strikeouts, three no-hitters, seven one-hitters and 15 shutouts." - A matter of record. How many ways can this be written?
• You were correct in this instance: "It was also at Madison that he picked up the nickname Jay; with five players named John, Warhawks Coach Tom Christie needed a way to keep everyone straight." - Agreed, this sentence could have been further rewritten to avoid the appearance of plagiarism.
• This sentence was rewritten and corrected as it was factually incorrect: "Since Major League Baseball started its first-year player draft in 1965, the Washington area has produced just three other players taken in the top 10 picks: McLean High grad Seth Greisinger went sixth overall to the Detroit Tigers in 1996, while Severna Park natives Gavin Floyd and Mark Teixeira went fourth and fifth, respectively, to the Philadelphia Phillies and Texas Rangers in 2001." Again, this type of material is a matter of record. The author in question simply collated it (and got it wrong).
• That's all I could recreate as you prevented me from seeing my "previous" edits. Restore that ability and I'll rewrite the sections to which you took objection.CarlitosCorazon 07:19, 16 August 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by CharleyHart (talk •

contribs)

Sorry to hear you will be leaving Wikipedia. Your addition was flagged by a bot as a potential copyright violation and was assessed by myself. Here is a link to the bot report. Click on the iThenticate link to view the overlap. In addition to the material found by the bot, I found some material had been from The Washington Post. I agree its hard/impossible to paraphrase baseball stats but that's not what I removed. There was prose on his high school days, descriptions of injuries, and the like. I can send you the deleted material by email if you like, but I'm not sure there's any point, as you've reproduced pretty much all of the removed material here on my talk page. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:08, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Delete sorce "Dong Sheng"

Hi Diannaa, can You kindly delete my page "Dong Sheng" from Wikipedia?. Thanks

Sorry, it no longer qualifies for G7 speedy deletion (one author who has requested deletion or blanked the page), as several other people edited the article. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:00, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

File permission problem with File:Adult female short-haired chihuahua (sleeping).jpeg

Thank you Diannaa for your assistance.

The copyright owner, whilst having provided me with permission to use the image, is wary of privacy and so I will not be able to email the permission.

I intend therefore to place the image in question under the guise of non-free fair use, as the image is being used for factual non-commercial purposes.

Regards

UPDATE - I have reconsidered and, for simplicity, please delete existing upload for me. Thank you Diannaa — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gfoxwood (talk • contribs) 12:16, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Done. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:10, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Jesus ben Ananias

The reverted edit contained a list of facts, and the amount of text was short. This subject, on both Jesus ben Ananias and Josephus on Jesus, has been subject to arbitrary "patrolled" edits from POV editors, who have removed essentially any mention of the proposition that there are many similarities between the New Testament figure Jesus of Nazareth and the Josephus character. The list of similarities is factual and was not copied word for word. Nor was the author who had posted at josephus.org (a scholarly site posting relatively undisputed facts) obvious for attribution, but that is irrelevant, as the facts stand for themselves from well known texts.

There is simply no copyvio problem with a single paragraph drawing from the single most comprehensive source adapting the wording on the facts. If there was you could have dealt with it by modifying the text in a copyedit. The choice to revert rather than simply cut the wording back to the clear facts suggest you are part of this POV that is "patrolling" these articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.11.94.233 (talk) 13:22, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Copying a paragraph from elsewhere online is indeed a copyright violation. The patrolling administrator is under no obligation to re-write the content. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:26, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Even a totally unattributed paragraph - which this wasn't - is fair use, especially on a factual matter where the text is mere reporting

A copyvio revert leaves the author's version inaccessible so that themselves or others have to wholly rewrite it rather than adapting it to meet your arbitrary criteria. That is an oppressive practice and edit, and in the case of a goodwill edit you should be moving that material to the talk page where it remains accessible.

You haven't answered the concern about whether you are part of the POV "patrolling" this article. Are you in fact a believing Christian, or an atheist or Muslim invested in the theory that Jesus was a historical man without the ability to do miracles? The article has to be marked POV for failing to point out the only reason that anyone actually cares about Jesus ben Ananias, which is, this figure is either 1. proof of Josephus incorporating questionable stories thus making him useless as a validation for the existence of Jesus or James or John the Baptist 2. prototyping or reporting a character in War of the Jews that is later adapted in the Gospels by himself or other authors 3. evidence for a rather remarkable claim that there were many prophets named Jesus wandering around Jerusalem, annoying the authorities, getting whipped to the bone, refusing to apologize nor condemn his torturers, and dying horribly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.11.94.233 (talk) 13:37, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

My only reason for visiting the article was to remove the copyright violation. Placing the copyright material on the talk page is not an option, as we cannot host copyright material anywhere on this wiki, including talk pages. If you need to view the removed material you can do so at the page where it was copied from, or look at the bot report (click on the iThenticate link to view the overlapping content). — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:47, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Taylor (Firm)

Please verify edits prior to tagging for copyright . Removing the entire Corporate History where there was no copyright violation is excessive and abusive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cjkoncur (talk • contribs) 13:43, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

The material was was copied unaltered from http://taylorstrategy.com/about, and was therefore a copyright violation. The page is marked at the bottom as "Taylor 2017 ©". — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:48, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Could you please provide insight for why you edit down to https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Taylor_(company)&oldid=796088849 as opposed to other company listings that are not flagged (for example) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edelman_(firm) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cjkoncur (talk • contribs) 14:23, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Certainly. All content needs to be sourced. Please see Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources for more information about sourcing. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:08, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Jesus ben Ananias 2

IP copied and pasted content from the following link: http://www.jcrelations.net/Transformations+in+Telling+the+Passion+Story.2191.0.html?L=3 Copyright from 2010. Could you please delete it, thank you. You've also recently deleted copyright violation from the same IP in the article recently. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 02:58, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks for reporting. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 11:36, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Ettore Sottsass

Dear Diannaa, I understand very well, i thought citations would be enough to avoid plagiarism problems. Best, Philippe49730--Philippe49730 (talk) 08:57, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

British Navy Board and Admiralty Board Flags copyright

Hi Dianna there is a discussion going on here: Wikipedia talk:Non-free content regarding two flag files that were originally uploaded by an author who released his based upon versions under Creative Commons CC0 1.0 Universal Public Domain Dedication they were wrongly assessed as a copyright infringement against CRW Flags.I have since found an official source showing the actual flags here: here these are under the OGL V3 licence UK as part of that website can you take a look and give some feed back I also wanted to know can we use the images from the official site or what would be the best way forward so we can have an image or at least correct flag image for these articles Navy Board and Admiralty Board.--Navops47 (talk) 13:09, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Copyright problem on Macduff Lifeboat Station

Thanks for your note on the copyright of content on the Macduff Lifeboat Station page.

I am authorised to use this content as I wrote some of it for the RNLI. The RNLI allows the use of its content for education and promotion. If you wish to contact me about this you can email me at (Redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mike Rawlins (talk • contribs) 19:27, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

@Mike Rawlins: Thank you for your interest in working on wikipedia. However, you cannot post copyright material on Wikipedia even if you are the copyright holder or have their permission, unless special licensing permissions are in place. That is because Wikipedia aims to be freely distributable and copyable by anyone, and all content must have the appropriate documentation in place before that can happen. Please see Wikipedia:donating copyrighted materials which explains how it works. There's a sample permission email at WP:Consent. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:40, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of one of my subpages

Diannaa, why did you delete User:Flyer22/Pine Valley (All My Children)? Sure, I haven't gotten around to recreating that article, but I don't see why the subpage needed to be deleted, especially when my other subpages still exist. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 06:12, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Flyer22 Reborn. I deleted it because it appeared at the list of broken userspace redirects at User:AnomieBOT III/Broken redirects/Userspace. If you want it back that's no problem. Alternatively I could restore User:Flyer22 Reborn/Pine Valley (All My Children) which was also recently deleted. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:13, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Alavi Bohras

Hello sir, I have created a gallery in Alavi Bohras page, but could not add new images. After uploading new ones it doesn't get displayed as a result it couldn't be fetched in the gallery. Please explain... Thanks.--NoorAlavi (talk) 04:52, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

When adding to a gallery, don't wikilink the photo, don't ask it to align right, and don't make it a thumbnail. All images should be listed between the opening gallery mark-up and the closing gallery mark-up. Here's what I did to fix — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:34, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Near-death experience page

Hello Diannaa, I seek your advice with respect to an issue I am facing on the near death experience. I undid one of the recent edits and asked the editor to take it to the Talk page see [3] and he refused (see [4]) and this despite the fact that information from a review article (ref name=Parnia2014rev) is completely lost in the edit he made. Given that this is edit war, what is the best course of action please? should I re-undo the edit and slap an edit war template on the person's talk page ? Josezetabal (talk) 06:33, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

I see the other editor has already opened a discussion on the talk page. That's the first step in any dispute resolution: Discuss on the talk page. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:36, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Information deleted from my draft

Hi Diannaa, thanks for reviewing my draft (Draft:Halsey Institute of Contemporary Art). All of the work that I had put in for two weeks has been deleted due to copyrighting issues. While I understand how serious it is, I now have nothing to work off of to fix my mistakes. Is there any way I can see that information again to work from? I worked so hard on my research and would like to correct my errors. Thank you. Kt161 (talk) 13:41, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

I can send you a copy by email if you like, but first you will have to activate your Wikipedia email. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:06, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Mastiksoul page

Hi Diannaa, thank you for reviewing Mastiksoul's page. I will definitely make sure to license our text, given that his biography is taken from his own page, which we own. Would you recommend us doing this, or just paraphrasing instead? Please note I am Mastiksoul's label (4Kenzo Recordings) manager. In either case, is there any way we can please remove the redirecting from Mastiksoul's page to a "Only Love" Shaggy remix page in the meantime? There is absolutely no reason why when somebody looks Mastiksoul up on Wikipedia, it would lead to a song that he once remixed... Thanks! 4kenzo (talk) 14:09, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

The content you added was both a copyright violation and "horribly promotional" to quote the person who initially removed it. So I recommend that you not bother with getting the material compatibly licensed as it would not be accepted for publication in its present state. Also, the article was deleted via the articles for deletion process, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mastiksoul (2nd nomination), which means that in May it was determined that he's not notable enough at this time to qualify for an article. The article will speedily be deleted again unless his situation has changed a lot in the meantime.

A second problem is conflict of interest. Writing an article about your own organisation or that of a client is strongly discouraged, as it is difficult to maintain the required neutral point of view. According to our terms of use, paid editors and people editing on behalf of their employer are required to disclose their conflict of interest by posting a notice on their user page or talk page. I have placed some information about conflict of interest on your user talk page. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 14:26, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Ok, understood, thank you for elaborating. Can you please explain then why there is a Mastiksoul page on the French Wikipedia, where he is apparently "notable enough"? If I try to submit a page on the Portuguese Wikipedia, will he be "notable enough"? I'm confused as to why the criteria is different or interpreted differently in different languages. Also, could you please reply to the second part of my original question, regarding whether it is possible for us to remove this 'redirection' to a page that has pretty much nothing to do with him, please? Thanks! 4kenzo (talk) 14:48, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Each language Wikipedia is independent and has different policies and guidelines. The redirect can be discussed/deleted via WP:RFD. — JJMC89 (T·C) 18:33, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Also, please let me add that he has definitely "had a single or album on any country's national music chart" (Portuguese music charts) as is a condition under the artist eligibility criteria... so I am confused as to why he was determined not notable enough at this time to qualify for an article. Please elaborate. Thank you! 4kenzo (talk) 16:27, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) The guidelines at WP:MUSICBIO only suggest that someone may may be notable. There still needs to be sufficient independent, reliable sources to satisfy WP:GNG, which is why the article was deleted. — JJMC89 (T·C) 18:33, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

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Draft:List of neuro

Hi, thank you for advising about copyright issues. I deleted the page my self. Gcastellanos (talk) 02:14, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Neurologic Music Therapy (NMT)

Dear Diannaa,

Thank you for your information regarding copyright concerns for Neurologic Music Therapy (NMT) pages. I am actually working on editing this page on bahalf of Drs. Thaut (Michael and Corene Thaut) who is a founder of NMT. I discuss with Drs. Thaut about the contents and texts before I edit. In case I worked with them for this pages, I am wondering that I still violate the rule/policy of wikipedia regarding the copyright. Thank you so much! Kyurim1 (talk) 15:35, 23 August 2017 (UTC)