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:<p>I don't really understand why you believe that including her religion is critical of Clinton or is necessary to "gatekeeping the Clinton articles with Wikipedia's consent on the eve of elections, so you can get your candidate to win" [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hillary_Clinton&type=revision&diff=748280857&oldid=748243312]. But when an article is 1RR, breaking it when you've been warned is pretty much a guaranteed block. The only exception would be something very serious like removing a copyvio or clearcut BLP violation (or getting lucky). </p><p>As always the case on wikipedia (or for that matter the rest of the world), talking about how wrong others were is not going to help your case. Even if they were seriously in the wrong, this doesn't help you much since you were still in the wrong by breaking the simple bright line of 1RR. </p><p>As for your comment here [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=748327844], it sounds like you still have a misunderstanding of how wikipedia works. By and large admins don't have an exclusive right to decide who is right and who is wrong. Every wikipedia editor can. And for that reason there's no really any place, not even AN//I where you can go to get the opinion of only admins. </p><p>In fact framing it as who is right and who is wrong is probably excessively adversarial anyway. The question is, who is behaving in such a way to negatively affect wikipedia and what, if anything, should be done about it. (Content disputes don't belong on AN//I, so the question of who is right in a content dispute doesn't even arise.) You need to respect the opinion of other experience editors as much as you respect admin opinion. I appreciate there is some gray area here because DS and arbcom enforcement, but even there the opinion of other editors is generally taken into account. </p><p>Finally if you feel that [[WP:Consensus]] is wrong, you generally need to establish that before hand rather than simply editing because "fallacy that inclusion violates policy". Remember since consensus needs to be policy based, it should be trivial to overturn any supposed consensus that violates policy. If you can't do so, perhaps your understanding of policy isn't correct. Either way, since wikipedia operates by consensus, if you're nearly the only one who feels something is against policy, even if you are correct, you're never likely to be seen as in the right when you go against a consensus that it isn't against policy. </p><p>If you feel that this is harassment, I'm sorry. </p><p>Consider however that you've only been blocked for 31 hours. You likely will be back if you want to. If you want to stick around, you need to understand why you've had so many problems so far. And even for someone who is opposed to Clinton (which I admit I'm not really) but understands how wikipedia works, it's easy to see that you've handled this wrong. Actually you should consider that as long as those who see things different behave in similar fashions, things are never going to change. </p><p>P.S. I see that you've been topic banned from American politics. Maybe that will be enough to prevent future problems. But you still should try and understand why you went about this wrong, since ultimately it will help you succeed here on wikipedia. </p><p>[[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 04:35, 8 November 2016 (UTC)</p>
:<p>I don't really understand why you believe that including her religion is critical of Clinton or is necessary to "gatekeeping the Clinton articles with Wikipedia's consent on the eve of elections, so you can get your candidate to win" [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hillary_Clinton&type=revision&diff=748280857&oldid=748243312]. But when an article is 1RR, breaking it when you've been warned is pretty much a guaranteed block. The only exception would be something very serious like removing a copyvio or clearcut BLP violation (or getting lucky). </p><p>As always the case on wikipedia (or for that matter the rest of the world), talking about how wrong others were is not going to help your case. Even if they were seriously in the wrong, this doesn't help you much since you were still in the wrong by breaking the simple bright line of 1RR. </p><p>As for your comment here [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=748327844], it sounds like you still have a misunderstanding of how wikipedia works. By and large admins don't have an exclusive right to decide who is right and who is wrong. Every wikipedia editor can. And for that reason there's no really any place, not even AN//I where you can go to get the opinion of only admins. </p><p>In fact framing it as who is right and who is wrong is probably excessively adversarial anyway. The question is, who is behaving in such a way to negatively affect wikipedia and what, if anything, should be done about it. (Content disputes don't belong on AN//I, so the question of who is right in a content dispute doesn't even arise.) You need to respect the opinion of other experience editors as much as you respect admin opinion. I appreciate there is some gray area here because DS and arbcom enforcement, but even there the opinion of other editors is generally taken into account. </p><p>Finally if you feel that [[WP:Consensus]] is wrong, you generally need to establish that before hand rather than simply editing because "fallacy that inclusion violates policy". Remember since consensus needs to be policy based, it should be trivial to overturn any supposed consensus that violates policy. If you can't do so, perhaps your understanding of policy isn't correct. Either way, since wikipedia operates by consensus, if you're nearly the only one who feels something is against policy, even if you are correct, you're never likely to be seen as in the right when you go against a consensus that it isn't against policy. </p><p>If you feel that this is harassment, I'm sorry. </p><p>Consider however that you've only been blocked for 31 hours. You likely will be back if you want to. If you want to stick around, you need to understand why you've had so many problems so far. And even for someone who is opposed to Clinton (which I admit I'm not really) but understands how wikipedia works, it's easy to see that you've handled this wrong. Actually you should consider that as long as those who see things different behave in similar fashions, things are never going to change. </p><p>P.S. I see that you've been topic banned from American politics. Maybe that will be enough to prevent future problems. But you still should try and understand why you went about this wrong, since ultimately it will help you succeed here on wikipedia. </p><p>[[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 04:35, 8 November 2016 (UTC)</p>
::You came here just to pile on the harassment, proving my point. It's apparent that Wikipedia sanctions arbitrary and capricious sanctions and threats by biased editors, who are, indeed, gatekeeping articles. I object to this treatment. The more editors, who come to this page to harass me on top of the ban, in failed attempts to justify the ban, proves my point.[[User:Maslowsneeds|maslowsneeds]]🌈 09:11, 8 November 2016 (UTC)


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Do you want to break India up into many smaller countries?

Do you want to break India up into many smaller countries?VictoriaGraysonTalk 00:48, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

What is this supposed to mean ? I'm sorry, but you're not being clear. Maslowsneeds (talk) 00:51, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Do you wish to see India break up into several smaller countries?VictoriaGraysonTalk 00:52, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
When you can't argue based on facts, you create red herrings and/or go to ad hominem attacks by either accusing people of waiving the ISIS flag or now engaging in sedition. Why can't you focus on the merits of your amendments ? Maslowsneeds (talk) 01:02, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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hello there - please be aware, wikileaks is not a wp:rs wikipedia reliable source, thanks Govindaharihari (talk) 19:03, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

hi @Govindaharihari: The link was included in the DWS article as a primary souce. See WP:PRIMARY. maslowsneeds🌈 19:18, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Wikileaks is an illegal source - end of _Govindaharihari (talk) 19:25, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Where does it say in wp:rs or in WP:PRIMARY that WikiLeaks is a banned source ? Please help correct the record. maslowsneeds🌈 20:19, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

wikileaks is not a wp:rs - Govindaharihari (talk) 20:31, 25 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you for correcting the record. maslowsneeds🌈 00:59, 26 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Peace

You're right of course. But I can't really join in on the discussion so close to the elections, especially after having talk page visits from 2 ArbCom members. I hope that you'll find the equanimity to do what's probably right on the eve of the election, which may be to let it go, for now. A lot of us saw. Let's try not to all get banned. ^^ SashiRolls (talk) 16:15, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Please copy my appeal to the arbitration enforcement noticeboard or administrators' noticeboard. Your reason here OR place the reason below this template. maslowsneeds🌈 21:10, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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There is no indication Maslowsneeds will accept any responsibility for their actions, which are a clear violation of the 1RR Discretionary Sanctions on the Hillary Clinton article. Instead they are blaming other editors and administrators in a clear case of WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT. If this continues after the block expires, further blocks of longer duration are inevitable. 78.26 (spin me / revolutions) 22:55, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]


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maslowsneeds🌈 21:10, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Because I questioned the flaming warning by a pro-Hillary editor, I get blocked ? Doesn't this prove the culture of retaliation and hostility that I was questioning ?maslowsneeds🌈 21:11, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Maslowsneeds, you have a very serious case of WP:ICANTHEARYOU. You are not listening to what people are telling you. You have been told, multiple times, what you were doing wrong. Two things: you inserted information into the article which you knew was against consensus, and you did it a second time in violation of the 1RR restriction. When people warn you about this, they are not "flaming" you; they are informing you, letting you know that you are breaking rules, and that it could get you blocked. If you had actually read and listed to the warnings you got, you would not be blocked now. If you had not gone running to ANI with a complaint against someone who gave you a perfectly valid warning, you would probably not be blocked now. Wikipedia has rules. They are spelled out very clearly. If you violate the rules, people warn you so that you can stop doing it before you get into trouble. If you don't listen to the warnings and keep doing it, you do get into trouble. End of story. --MelanieN (talk) 21:28, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Please, you are one of the people, who are gatekeeping the Clinton articles. By coming to my talk page and screaming in all caps, you are proving the kind of retaliation that you wage against people, who make edits in good faith to articles, which are gate-keeping. This is bullying. Is that how they teach you to smother other editors, to get your way, to keep your edits ?maslowsneeds🌈 22:19, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This is an administrator you are talking about. You are walking on thin ice and on the verge of falling. Your attitude toward other users is repulsive, accusing everyone of bullying, intimidation, harassment, etc. It's clear that you were warned by multiple editors about your behaviour and in retaliation claim false accusations and run to ANI when things don't go your way. If this is the way you act, you won't last on Wikipedia. You must learn to collaborate and cooperate regardless of the circumstances and article. I suggest that you drop the stick about this whole "gate keeping" and focus on improving your behaviour rather than pointing the finger at others when, in fact, you were at fault. You were warned and chose to ignore it. That is your fault, not MelanieN's, Ad Orientum (sp?), the user you reported at ANI (forgot username) or anybody else. You refuse to hear the truth. Enough is enough. Callmemirela 🍁 {Talk} 22:35, 7 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You came to my talk page to pile on the harassment ?maslowsneeds🌈 02:01, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't really understand why you believe that including her religion is critical of Clinton or is necessary to "gatekeeping the Clinton articles with Wikipedia's consent on the eve of elections, so you can get your candidate to win" [3]. But when an article is 1RR, breaking it when you've been warned is pretty much a guaranteed block. The only exception would be something very serious like removing a copyvio or clearcut BLP violation (or getting lucky).

As always the case on wikipedia (or for that matter the rest of the world), talking about how wrong others were is not going to help your case. Even if they were seriously in the wrong, this doesn't help you much since you were still in the wrong by breaking the simple bright line of 1RR.

As for your comment here [4], it sounds like you still have a misunderstanding of how wikipedia works. By and large admins don't have an exclusive right to decide who is right and who is wrong. Every wikipedia editor can. And for that reason there's no really any place, not even AN//I where you can go to get the opinion of only admins.

In fact framing it as who is right and who is wrong is probably excessively adversarial anyway. The question is, who is behaving in such a way to negatively affect wikipedia and what, if anything, should be done about it. (Content disputes don't belong on AN//I, so the question of who is right in a content dispute doesn't even arise.) You need to respect the opinion of other experience editors as much as you respect admin opinion. I appreciate there is some gray area here because DS and arbcom enforcement, but even there the opinion of other editors is generally taken into account.

Finally if you feel that WP:Consensus is wrong, you generally need to establish that before hand rather than simply editing because "fallacy that inclusion violates policy". Remember since consensus needs to be policy based, it should be trivial to overturn any supposed consensus that violates policy. If you can't do so, perhaps your understanding of policy isn't correct. Either way, since wikipedia operates by consensus, if you're nearly the only one who feels something is against policy, even if you are correct, you're never likely to be seen as in the right when you go against a consensus that it isn't against policy.

If you feel that this is harassment, I'm sorry.

Consider however that you've only been blocked for 31 hours. You likely will be back if you want to. If you want to stick around, you need to understand why you've had so many problems so far. And even for someone who is opposed to Clinton (which I admit I'm not really) but understands how wikipedia works, it's easy to see that you've handled this wrong. Actually you should consider that as long as those who see things different behave in similar fashions, things are never going to change.

P.S. I see that you've been topic banned from American politics. Maybe that will be enough to prevent future problems. But you still should try and understand why you went about this wrong, since ultimately it will help you succeed here on wikipedia.

Nil Einne (talk) 04:35, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You came here just to pile on the harassment, proving my point. It's apparent that Wikipedia sanctions arbitrary and capricious sanctions and threats by biased editors, who are, indeed, gatekeeping articles. I object to this treatment. The more editors, who come to this page to harass me on top of the ban, in failed attempts to justify the ban, proves my point.maslowsneeds🌈 09:11, 8 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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