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Can you please explain my code violation I read the conflict of interest and I dont see how it applies.--[[User:Sarahmckem|Sarahmckem]] ([[User talk:Sarahmckem|talk]]) 15:54, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Can you please explain my code violation I read the conflict of interest and I dont see how it applies.--[[User:Sarahmckem|Sarahmckem]] ([[User talk:Sarahmckem|talk]]) 15:54, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

No, he is not my client. I am a 43 year old mother of 2 in San Francisco and I have no connection at all. My 16 year old son lives in Nashville and heard about this kid Simon Bruce. I contacted the girl who made his webpage and asked since she wrote the bio could she make the wikipage page account and upload it because she had all the copywrites and of course I wanted to comply (i have had my own account for 3 years). It was shut down the minute she put it up and I have been on here trying to comply with all the requests to make the page right. I have no conflict of interest, I was just trying to get the sources of the copywrites to upload it themselves.

I had thought it would be better for them to do it than for me to do it. Would it be better for me to make this page under my own established account then, and get many people to request the page?

Revision as of 16:15, 4 April 2008


Speedy Deletion of Batteries Included

Not a computer user? I'm surprised that you deleted the start of a page for this famous computer retailer and software publisher. Their PaperClip word processor was arguably the first which attained widespread use. Speedy deletion is a speedy way to discourage people from contributing. Lexor1969 (talk)


Long hair

hello OrangeMike, I edited the new article "long hair"- is it too short? greetings from Munich, Germany garlicboy1969 12:47, April 19th (CET) </nowiki>

ha thats is sort of funny.ANOMALY-117 (talk) 16:42, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Castillero Middle School

Hey, I have no idea how to do a wikitable. I left some data on the article. Could anyone who's reading this make the table. will u help me please

Changes to Pension re: Chile

Mike - my purpose is not to dispute the changes made in Chile, I had simply moved that reference to the countries section of that page, and I've opened up a new page on the Chilean pension system.

The definition of pension should stay general and not reference any particular country or system. Country-specific changes are occurring constantly.

Okay=

Seems a bit confusing for the causal user but I'll be mindful of that in the future. -Leodmacleod 5:28, 24 Sept 2007 (UTC)

Re: Thanks for the image help

Hi, Orangemike! I'm curious at to where I helped you out - I'd like to know if I did something right :-) east.718 at 09:38, December 19, 2007

PostBooks Deletion on December 2, 2007

Orangemike, I would like to better understand why you felt the page I recreated was so blatantly advertising. I wanted to get this product in Wikipedia, and I spent a great deal of time researching other companies that are in a similar space. After being deleted once, I went back over again to include only facts. Would appreciate any advice on how to do this better, but an immediate deletion seems extreme. I would appreciate assistance in getting factual information here. Thx. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wallyton (talkcontribs)

Making History edit

Dear OrangeMike,

I think there has been some kind of misunderstanding concerning my supposedly 'inappropriate' editing of Making History (novel). I merely corrected a couple of grammatical errors, and I certainly made no attempt to deface the article, as your message to me seems to imply. Please write back as soon you get this, I'm sure we simply have our wires crossed. Thank you.

Yours,

User:6afraidof7

Thank you for your quick response, and I shall be more stringent in future.

Yours,

6afraidof7 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 6afraidof7 (talkcontribs)

I think you deserve this...

The Orange Barnstar
For your positive wording in here and in so many other places (and for being orange, of course). --omtay38

"SAE - World Council of Hellenes Abroad" article?

Hi Mike,

I dont understand, why you deleted the following article? 03:23, 14 February 2008 Orangemike deleted "SAE - World Council of Hellenes Abroad".

I have all the rights from the SAE Organisation to publish their text on Wikipedia! Could you please undo the deletion.

Greetings Th. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bountos (talkcontribs)

Orange Mike

Today you murdered my account because you are a fat fucking IWW queer. The reason you gave was that you didn't like my username, which like yours, matches your webpage. Then you started dicking around with other content I posted here, laying warning tags just to be a spiteful faggot. You assholes bypassed all of your own protocol. Therefore, I am fucking all of you from now on. Because you did this to back user IrishGuy, and because my appeals were sabotaged by other whitelisted abusers of nonadmins, you will all be systematically outed at my convenience. Have fun blocking this ip, as it is the ip for an entire library. --contextflexed

Lyrics

There's lyrics all over Wikipedia. See article on Julie London, for example.

Deletion of the Bluenose Chapter of the BMW Club of Canada

I started this entry as I was adding content to the Atlantic Motorsport Park entry and thought that it should be included, perhaps after quickly reading the criteria for entry I should have entered it as a redirected page or something, but I've not really gotten the hang of the Wikipedia protocol yet.

I felt the Bluenose BMW Club likely warranted it's our citation separate from the likes of Atlantic Motorsport Park or Westwood, because it isn't just about AMP. Atlantic Motorsport Park is the facility that the club uses to teach young drivers vehicle control through practicing emergency manouvers, car control along with studying and applying the theories and applications of vehicle dynamics, and while there was a listing for the BMW Car Club of America, there was no such listing for the BMW Car Club of Canada which would, I guess, be the logical place for it to exist.

Do you feel I should create a BMW Car Club of Canada entry and copy the Bluenose Chapter information or link over to it? Or should this material not be in Wikipedia?

Regards, Alan Coles — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alan Coles (talkcontribs) 11:38, February 25, 2008

I have contested your request for speedy deletion. If you still feel that the article subject is fatally non-notable, I urge you to instead nominate the article at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. --M@rēino 14:52, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mike, I have declined to delete this and removed t he speedy tag, as I also have from Vincent Klyn. I do not know whether either of these people are actually notable.I do know that saying someone is an actor or a film editor in many films is an unmistakable clear assertion at least of some possible good-faith importance. if the editor role was not significant, or if the parts were all bit parts, then the people might not pass WP:N, but that has to be tested at AfD. Speedy does not apply if you think the importance was insufficient, as long as there is some importance asserted. There have been recent calls for the elimination of category A7 altogether, ad it is taggings like this which encourage such requests. I think we need A7, and therefore should use it carefully and properly, and urge you to be more careful here to follow the text of WP:CSD, which expresses WP:Deletion policy. DGG (talk) 15:16, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
similarly ". She represented Nigeria in Miss World" as for Matilda Kerry is an assertion of what can reasonably be thought notability. I'm not sure what I would vote on it at AfD,but it needs to go there if you want to delete it. DGG (talk) 15:21, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I know you weren't talking to me, but just to inform you, Vincent Klyn *IS* a notable person, as he not only was a very famous surfer in his day, but also played the main villain in the very popular (at least where I come from) sci-fi action-movie Cyborg, and also has appeared in a lot of other movies having major parts, especially in those directed by Albert Pyun.KnatLouie (talk) 20:08, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for help with SF writers of color category

Thanks for the help. I am new to editing Wiki (although I use it all the time). I think that a category for Spec. Fic books from writers of color should be created also. I'll be looking at the rules (and trying to understand them all) on how to do this. Thanks a lot. -Booksellergirl (talk)

Hi Mike, they deleted "Category:Science fiction by writers of color" and have slated to be deleted "Category:Science fiction writers of color". I think that I'm done with this project. I'll consider it a success that I got several books into Wikipedia that weren't there before such as "Dark Matter" and "Bloodchild". I can't thank you enough for your support during this effort. Maybe we will meet at WisCon sometime. -- Booksellergirl (talk) 20:02, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did you see this??? Now see what I said to him at his IP page: User_talk:70.178.71.123. I wish this article would just DIE already! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 13:13, 14 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OHTHANKGAWD!!!CobaltBlueTony™ talk 13:20, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great Wall China Adoption

Hello, and my apolgies for the lack of communication. This is my first attempt to post any information to Wikipedia. I have rewritten the text for Great Wall China Adoption organziation to be unbiased and unaffiliated, please let me know what parts need more editing. Thank you. - Justin

I'm not gonna fight you (you do some good work); but notability is not contagious. Having a famous customer doesn't make you famous. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:36, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I agree that the company probably isn't notable, but all that's required to defeat a CSD:A7 deletion is a mere claim of notability. This low standard is intended to ensure that only the most clear-cut cases are speedied. There is a claim there (having some famous customers), so a speedy isn't on. Stifle (talk) (trivial vote) 09:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you just do a Google Search on "Tinsley Advertising" you will see many of the mainstream press (ex: Business Week) that are references. Here are a couple (and more can be found in the Hype section of their site): http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A00EFDE1738F93AA2575BC0A96F958260 http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_1999_Feb_4/ai_53703115 http://www.allbusiness.com/marketing-advertising/marketing-advertising-overview/6666685-1.html http://www.allbusiness.com/marketing-advertising/4191688-1.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Megageox (talkcontribs) 15:21, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

External links to hulu

To the contrary, WP:EL encourages links to Hulu. Consider:

  • What should be linked, #2: An article about a book, a musical score, or some other media should link to a site hosting a copy of the work if none of the "Links normally to be avoided" criteria apply. For the type of media that Hulu hosts (film and television, mostly) Hulu usually is the only place on the internet that lawfully hosts a copy of the work. Yes, it's commercial, but for the same reason, no non-commercial website can host a copy of the work, at least not for another 70 years or so before the copyright runs out.
  • Now consider the "Links normally to be avoided" criteria. It passes them all. Hulu provides a unique resource, and will be reliable over the long term. The site is primarily to promote not sell works, has a low level of ads compared to live TV, and doesn't require registration (except for R-rated stuff).
  • Finally, I don't get a penny from Hulu or from NBC-Universal. I'm just doing this because my philosophy of Wikipedia is that it is useless without proof of sources. Citing the original material makes Wikipedia credible. --M@rēino 14:27, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't agree with your reasoning, but see your points. To me, this fails the "objectionable amounts of advertising" test. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:31, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help with SciFi writers of color

Help! You were so helpful before. I was hoping that you could help me again. Since it seems that Wikipedia is using "Science fiction" as an umbrella term to include "Speculative fiction". I think that maybe the category "Speculative fiction writers of color" should to be changed to "Science fiction by writers of color" and the category "Speculative fiction novels by writers of color" to "Science fiction by writers of color" ("Walter Mosley's Futureland should be here, but because it is a collection of short stories it is being left out.) First is my assertion correct and second, how do I do this without going into every book. Is there a better way? --Booksellergirl (talk) 17:03, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much for your help! I think I got it all done --Booksellergirl (talk) 14:02, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Would love to attend WisCon, but it's a problem of to many Cons to little money. I just gave up my ComicCon money for a Rent Party for a friend. Maybe next year I'll go. WisCon sounds amazing! --Booksellergirl (talk) 14:19, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your continued support. It means a lot to me. This Kevin guy seems a bit like a close-minded jerk. I'm glad that there are people out here like you guarding the hen house, too ;o) Let's hope the that the category doesn't get deleted. I've been telling the guys over at Carl Brandon that we need to get on the ball with this or we will disappear. It seems that I was more prophetic than I realized. There has been a suggestion of a Carl Brandon Wiki. We'll see how that goes. --Booksellergirl (talk) 17:54, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
HA! You gave me my first laugh of the day! This just goes to show something. American may not be what it should be, but its not what it was. We may do some really stupid things sometimes, but we are capable of growth. This place is still worth fighting for. Be well. --Booksellergirl (talk) 18:59, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Paying Attention to the Words in an Article

I made an edit in error to an already erroneous statement, but you merely reverted my edit and left the original erroneous statement in there. This is highly unusual as the change you made left the false information. For the future, please remember to read the full article instead of rushing off to eagerly post patronizing boilerplates on people's talk pages about their own errors. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. Thank you. Blue Danube (talk) 17:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are right, I was wrong, I apologize in full here and on your talk page. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:15, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And I will apologize for my tongue-in-cheek. :D Blue Danube (talk) 17:17, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Orange Mike, Hope these contracts count as refferences: http://www.the-skyrockets.com/The_SkyRockets/Agreements/Pages/SkyRockets_Site_Album.html Mike Why was the Article Deleted? Significance - Egypts first Rock Band (1957), as for proof We have scaned contracts (see Link) with major Hotels Casinos and Clubs in Egypt at the time. The Article itself was witten by the Band, actually everything that was written on their site AND the wiki article was done with their consent & backed by Documented evidence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sherif Mansour (talkcontribs) 17:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Block of FrancineSchill

I unblocked her, as she was never warned and was likely unaware of Wikipedia policy or guidelines on External Links. I also left a stern warning directing her to the appropriate policies. Please remember, when blocking new users, give them ample warnings and opportunity to learn from their mistakes. Reverting a few more times is a smaller problem than is losing a potential editor because they were "bitten" unfairly. At leats give them a friendly note before blocking! --Jayron32.talk.contribs 18:02, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Entirely true, and it now seems the message has been recieved. We can always re-block her if she starts again. The ball is in HER court now... --Jayron32.talk.contribs 18:13, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Revert on Paul Cadmus page

I saw no reason for your deletion of what appears to be a constructive, acceptable link in the external links section, and you didn't have an edit summary or note on the discussion page, so I reverted it. My mind is open and I'm more than willing to discuss it. Noroton (talk) 18:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, fair enough. I've reviewed it now and, without any COI, I personally think it should stay, so that should be the end of it. It seems to me it would help if some kind of edit summary, say "removed as per WP:EL", would help. If I have time, I might go over some of that user's edits and review them to see if the added material is useful in each case, but if I do, it will be a slow decision based on whether each edit improves the individual article. That should get around any spam problems and help the 'pedia. I've got no problem with your having removed them. Noroton (talk) 19:12, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I see what you mean. Looking at the context of that quote over at WP:SPAM it seems to me it sounds more like advice than a hard and fast rule. (And we all know plenty of people around here who are pushing their off-Wiki agendas; almost all of those agendas worse than this one.) Given the circumstances here, it seems to me that if you can get Artand to make some specific pledges about following policy and note that he'll be watched, then the encyclopedia would benefit. I tend to be optimistic about newbies who mess up in the beginning. As I said, I'm willing to be available if he wants advice. I'm not an admin and couldn't unblock him in any event. Your call. Noroton (talk) 16:40, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sure you're more familiar about this kind of thing than I am. I left another comment on Artand's talk page to clarify. Noroton (talk) 16:50, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mea Culpa - I don't know what I was thinking of. I'm now suitably chastened. --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 19:57, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mike would these do? http://www.bbc.co.uk/films/2002/06/10/cairo_station_1958_review.shtml "With its tense score, contrasting performances of Chahine (twitchy and tightly coiled) and Rostom (sexy but cruel) and audacious moments of formal brilliance (Chahine even slots in a musical be-bop interlude from "Mike and the Skyrockets"), "Cairo Station" is a cinematic triumph." http://www.arabamericannews.com/newsarticle.php?articleid=8339 "Kelada grew up in Egypt where he would sing in a rock and roll band called the Skyrockets." http://www.egy.com/people/97-10-04.shtml "The Skyrockets at the Nileside Casino al-Shagarra and seen eating probably delicious fool'n tamia sandwiches in the 1960s." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sherif Mansour (talkcontribs) 21:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

deletation of westnet?

hello, i am trying to add westnet, you added speedy delation, citying "nn corp" it is a significant company so please let it hang on . —Preceding unsigned comment added by Timberlines (talkcontribs) 00:30, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notable? i did a good theres tons of sources, regardless i just added it , still putting references, not everything on wiki is instantly sourced and added. give it sometime. not everyone is born on wiki knows how to instantly put everything. i hope u understand and i do understand that you instantly check thigns for their notablity. a quick google searched looks very notable.

fido is also a subsidy of rogers i dont know what the deal is. this is a canadian company not american so you may not of heard ofi t. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Timberlines (talkcontribs) 00:39, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently you deleted this article while I was clarifying the context. After uploading the new version, I undeleted the history for attribution purposes. Just letting you know - Christopher Parham (talk) 02:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just so you know, there was an arbitration request on episode articles recently here [1], the conclusion says
It says that there is no consistent precedent or dealing with notability of this sort of articles, so I advice you to be extra-careful on making editions --Enric Naval (talk) 10:15, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also, Christopher, you don't remove the deletion notice yourself, what you do is adding a {{hangon}} template below it, so it won't get deleted while you improve the article --Enric Naval (talk) 10:18, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why would I not remove the deletion notice myself? I was only vaguely aware of the arbitration issue however so thank you. I do not believe it is relevant as the page was deleted as nonsense (arguably true at the time) but I do not think my last version could be described as such. Christopher Parham (talk) 11:22, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the template says that you shouldn't, for a start. This way of doing things probably originated at {{db-reason}}, the father template from where {{db-nonsense}} was created from. It probably comes from some discussion on some admin noticeboard, but I can't find references for it.
The removal could also be considered uncivil. A more proper procedure (but still not totally correct) would adding "hangon", then changing the article and *then* removing the tag if there has been substantial changes, while leaving a message on the talk page explaining why it is notable meets the notability criteria or why it's not nonsense, so other editors won't label it again with the same tag. A totally correct procedure would be improving the article, and then convince the editor that put up the tag to remove it, or convince someone else to do it because of it no longer being adequate, but that's not always possible. Deleting the notice with no explanation anywhere not even on the edit summary would surely be considered uncollaborative, specially if the article is not improved.
(also, consider placing {{stub}} on your new articles so this doesn't happen so often. There is a ton of more specific stubs at Category:Stub_categories that you can use. Other people interesed on the stub type can then see the article on the thematic category and help to improve the article) --Enric Naval (talk) 11:45, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You can probably use this one on next article {{PowerRangers-stub}}. When added to the article, it will automagically add it to Category:Power_Rangers_stubs --Enric Naval (talk) 11:49, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Silly me, this editor was not the one that created the article, so he could remove the tag with no problem. My bad, I'll pay more attention to the history next time --Enric Naval (talk) 23:42, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(P.D.: well, at least the stub advice still stands. A stub template on an article can attract editors interested on the theme that will be happy to improve the article, and it can be added to an article created by someone else) --Enric Naval (talk) 23:44, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Asghar Mohammadi FAZEL, by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Asghar Mohammadi FAZEL is a redirect to a non-existent page (CSD R1).

To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Asghar Mohammadi FAZEL, please affix the template {{hangon}} to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Feel free to contact the bot operator if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot, bearing in mind that this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion; it does not perform any nominations or deletions itself. To see the user who deleted the page, click here CSDWarnBot (talk) 09:30, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I was about to remove the csd tag when you deleted it. I don't think it's advertising, since the article talks about a specification by GSM Association, which itself is a trade association and wouldn't be advertising anything. The only thing that to me could sound like marketingese is a direct quote, and presented as such. Would you mind if I undeleted the article? Thanks. - Bobet 14:15, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Foreignness

I've tagged it as needing translation and am just going to do some googling to see if I can find any English information on the topic. If I can't get anywhere with it (at the moment I don't even know what language it is - presume something Scandinavian) I would consider a {{db-foreign}} but I'd like to give it a chance of life first. nancy (talk) 17:54, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gunnin' For That speedy declined

Hey there Mike, I declined this particular speedy (even though when I see your name in page history, I usually just delete as you seem to always have them right). You said in page history that it was taken from a website and was spammy. Fixable, IMHO. Was it copyvio though? I'll delete based on that alone. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 19:22, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the reply. I wouldn't have a problem with an AFD, but if the assertions made in the article are true (future film, produced by Beastie Boy, etc), and verifiable, I might surprise myself and !vote keep. (and I am by no means even close to being an inclusionist) Thanks for understanding my speedy decline though, either way. Too bad about the article creator. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 21:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

I am so glad our world has come to that. She's a published author (whom can be found internationally through Amazon.com) and she's not known enough because only her "official site" is offered as a reference. I own her book and thought her worthy of recognition and hoped others could learn of her written works through wikipedia. But apparently the site is not worthy of the critical acclaim it has recieved (I have had friends who've attempted to contribute to Wikipedia to help make it better and have been treated with this "warm welcome" ie "speedy deletion." When you work hard to write up an article with reference that sounds half-way decent and even intelligent and it gets deleted because it's not "notable enough" despite local and national popularity it kind of turns the stomach.) Carrymeaway (talk) 23:15, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How are they ever to attain notability if people can't spread the word through popular sources (such as wikipedia)? Carrymeaway (talk) 23:23, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Therefore preventing a curious web-surfer from looking up information on someone they may have heard a snip-it of and want to learn more. My personal opinion; it's bull-shit. Carrymeaway (talk) 23:56, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Controversial literature

[moved from above]

Hi Mike, I just left a note at the CFD for Category:Controversial literature explaining why I don't think it should be handled as a Speedy delete. Can you reverse your deletion and allow the full CFD to run its course? Cgingold (talk) 20:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again, Mike -- I was hoping for a reasonably expeditious response. Possibly you didn't notice my question due to the other comment that was left after mine. Anyway, I'd still appreciate a reply. Thanks. Cgingold (talk) 02:15, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply, Mike. And more importantly, thank you for taking my request for "procedural justice" seriously. It may seem odd, given that I was the person who asked for the category to be deleted in the first place, but I feel strongly about adhering to the fine points of deletion procedures. Do you have any idea how & why King of Hearts jumped in two hours later and re-deleted it? Cgingold (talk) 13:26, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilove

With all the "wikilove" that vandals have done to your userspace lately, you deserve some real Wikilove. Royalbroil 03:14, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Guerilla Talk

i was not the original author of this "article" Did my best to try and figure out how to make it acceptable. Anyway is there a service where wiki's get paid to do this so i can get published Henslee57 (talk) 10:40, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What are you, stalking me??

Seriously, I've tried making two updates this past hour, saving once before making more additions, and BOTH times you've been around, marking something for deletion or otherwise trying to destroy my work, no even giving the article a mere five MINUTES before marking it.. could you please explain this?? Thanks.KnatLouie (talk) 20:36, 21 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikilove, part 2

I temporarily semi-protected your userpage. You can undo if you want. There were 4 vandalisms in less than 12 hours. It must be an honor to be so popular that your userpage had to be protected! Royalbroil 19:56, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Greetings

{{RFD (talk)|Joy message}}-Thanks for your work on Wikipedia-RFD (talk) 20:17, 22 March 2008 (UTC) This was to be a kitten to cheer you up but somewhere I made some mistake in trying to add it.Again my thanks-RFD (talk) 20:26, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for covering me

Hi,

Thank you very much for reverting the vandalism to User:Bearian. I am in a very busy situation in real life, so I've had no time to stop vandals this weekend, and will be so through the end of the month. I appreciate it. Bearian'sBooties (talk) 01:00, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm back in action, after closing the apartment of an estate. Thanks very much! Bearian (talk) 15:16, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
For covering the back of another admin. Bearian (talk) 15:18, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Deleted content out-of-process

I went to a fair amount of effort to get some of my favorite deleted articles restored to my userspace so that I could improve them or find a good home for them. Userfication of deleted content is explicitly permitted -- see Wikipedia:Userfication#Userfication_of_deleted_content -- but you have not only deleted these articles but have done so entirely outside of process and without ever notifying me. You have forced me to spend more of my valuable time scanning redlinks. Please restore all of these or add them to the ongoing discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Tlogmer subpages.

Here is the list of pages, as far as I can tell:

- Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 04:07, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I agree with Tlogmer message, these should be restored and added to that deletion debate. --Enric Naval (talk) 11:43, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DoubleJay Creative restoration

OM-- I created a new page for DoubleJay Creative in the sandbox you made for me. It MORE than fulfills notability guidelines (with 2 dozen external links!) and I took all the marketing-speak out like you suggested. So, will you put it up? Or tell me how to? Thanks a lot--

Dingstersdie (talk) 15:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously, come on... (DJC)

"A company, corporation, organization, team, religion, group, product, or service is notable if it has been the subject of coverage in secondary sources." "The organization’s longevity, size of membership, or major achievements, or other factors specific to the organization may be considered."

I don't really know how to reply to your comment that a lot of the links are about their clients, since that's just blatantly untrue. Many of the articles reference specific projects that DJC has worked on or accomplished, but how do you think a production company gets press except through recognition of their projects? Additionally, even IF you remove those from the equation, there are numerous articles where company employees are interviewed and DJC is the main focus of the piece-- more than enough, again, to meet notability guidelines. You seem to have a prejudice against allowing small companies into the Wiki, but seriously, how much more notable can a small company get than national coverage, numerous awards (including an Emmy) and and cover story in the local alt-weekly? Finally, I'll again reference you to AC Entertainment as an example of another notable local business which has been allowed to stay, even with few references, while mine, with TWO DOZEN good references, is continually deleted.

It's a good article. I don't understand why you have such a need to keep it out. If, after rereading the notability guidelines and my responses, you still feel it's not notable, I wish you would tell me how to start a review or talk to some other admin. I am grateful you volunteer your time here but I think that by being such a stickler, it discourages people from contributing.

Dingstersdie (talk) 15:44, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There's nothing to stop you from posting the article as it stands. I repeat, I'll give you 3:1 odds that if you do, it won't last a week. We don't care if a company is mentioned in an article; we need articles about the company itself. We have a major problem now with too many articles about tiny companies like this which confuse local "Emmies" with a national Emmy, etc. And again: if you feel AC Entertainment is no more notable than DoubleJay, then nominate them for deletion as non-notable; WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS is not a valid argument for retention of an article. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:51, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I went back and looked at the links and found six of them where the article was either fully about DJC or at least substantially about them and their involvement with a project. So I'm throwing it up there. As long as you're not determined to pull it down, I'll take my chances. Thanks for your help, Dingstersdie (talk) 16:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

notability of doublejay

He is put awards like Aegis and Daveys, which look like a place where you pay to get a nice award and a place on a list of winners. They have no notability and no reputation for giving awards based on actual excellence. I am doubting on directly deleting on the basis of not reliable sources --Enric Naval (talk) 17:14, 24 March 2008 (UTC) same for telly awards. This does not pass WP:CORP --Enric Naval (talk) 17:16, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


AfD nomination of DoubleJay Creative

An article that you have been involved in editing, DoubleJay Creative, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DoubleJay Creative. Thank you. Enric Naval (talk) 17:35, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


AfD nomination of Telly Awards

An article that you have been involved in editing, Telly Awards, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Telly Awards. Thank you. Enric Naval (talk) 17:41, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do I make my football club notable?

Hi, Orange Mike.

I was recreating my F.C. Dragons page again. You deleted it because it didn't show importance or significance of the club. I haven't a clue what that means! Please help. How do I show importance or significance of my football club?

Thanks, DJK2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by DJK2008 (talkcontribs) 20:24, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for explaining. Have a look at [www.footballclubdragons.wetpaint.com]. It is the team website I made myself. It may not have much in it cause its still under construction. Thank you, DJK2008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by DJK2008 (talkcontribs) 21:32, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Strawberry Flower

I notice that you've nominated this for speedy deletion on multiple occasions. Since there is obviously a mixture of opinions on deletion of this article I think that starting a Article For Deletion (afd) debate is probably a better approach if you still feel it should go. --BrucePodger (talk) 00:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Deletion of Central Intelligence Scotland

what did i do wrong? i did a fine page, and there's nothing wrong with it! please dont delete it! please! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gkes94 (talkcontribs) 17:10, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy?

Next time you nn a page, could you tell the user? Basketball110 Go Longhorns! 17:50, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Sorry if I sounded accusing. I didn't know that they gave them out. I usually just give the users their speedy warning. Basketball110 Go Longhorns! 19:03, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've left a suggestion on its talk page. Never mind. It seems to have been deleted. Basketball110 Go Longhorns! 19:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Basketball110 Go Longhorns! 20:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Correted Typo in Prod

Thanks for catching that typo Mike, I guess I was visited by the dyslexia fairy.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 03:02, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notability

I was wondering what you thought about the notability of Ironwood Omnimedia. I was involved in the AfD for some of its products a few months ago and I voluntarily merged some content into the article and tried to clean the POV, but I'm wondering if it might be time to see if it deserves a prod. I just can't find anything reliable to verify the article and I wanted your input since I noticed you edit some RPG articles.--Torchwood Who? (talk) 03:22, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CSD nomination of Lucia Mauro

Hello! you tagged Lucia Mauro as {{db-spam}}, can I ask how you think that it is spam? And you also didn't notified the author about its Speedy. Thanks! --SMS Talk 03:39, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You deleted this template as having been contributed by a sock of a blocked user, which appears to be the case. Would you mind providing me with a copy of the template, so I can review it? Thanks.--Abd (talk) 04:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you.--Abd (talk) 12:25, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Electromagnetic thingy!

Hi Orangemike. I've removed the speedy delete because I'm activelly working on this article. Thank you for your help. --CyclePat (talk) 04:55, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed the In use template since I'm done working on the article for now. Thank you again for your help in this matter. Feel free to work on the article since there should now be sufficient references to easily improve it's context, which is b.t.w. probably sufficient to no longer meet the criteria CSD A1, meaning it is perhaps time to remove the speedy delete template? --CyclePat (talk) 05:47, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I've recently updated the article Electro-magnetic therapeutic system and the AFD debate for this article. Since I've apparently rebuted your arguments (The device even made noted in a trial at Supreme Court of Canada)I was wondering if you would reconsider changing your vote to keep. Surelly it's a notable subject! Thank you. --CyclePat (talk) 23:26, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To answer your comment I do agree that third party sources are best when available. However, I personally feel wikipedia's policy on the need for third party sources all the time is somewhat un-necessary as often times News Organizations use a first party web sites as a source in their own reporting. I know this having written for magazines and newspapers myself and knowing people who work in media. What advantage would a professional organization have in lying about themselves on their own website? Also, in the case of this company all media sources I found were pretty much reviews of individual productions and did not really delve much into the overall history of the company. Furthermore, sometimes third party sources get things wrong. Which would you trust more, the New York Times article or the company's own website if say the New York Times fudged a date or a name? It happens all the time. Most times it is the newspaper that fudged the info and not the other way around. But anyway, I like to play by wikipedia's rules as much as possible which is why I think the tags are there. Hopefully someone else can dig up some better sources. But for now I think what is there is fine.Nrswanson (talk) 05:30, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh there is tons of media review on productions. Dozens and dozens of reviews done by the New York Times, New York Post, Opera News, etc. That is the thing with opera companies. The media is more interested in the shows they produce than in the actual organization itself. See my problem.Nrswanson (talk) 05:38, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you look above I already cited Opera News. I am sure they did review the company at some point but the articles are not currently available online and I will have to go to the library hunting through microfich. Like I said, the references are there. Just takes a little digging. But better to start the article and get people interested enough to care and do research than not create/ delete the page and have it never exist.Nrswanson (talk) 05:51, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've expanded the article and referenced it, to within an inch of its life.;-) Best, Voceditenore (talk) 11:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Editing the Radio station info

This is the warning you will receive for your disruptive edits for the Radio stations.

I re-edited the radio station info. I moved the Radio Station Info from its callsign to its name such as moving the 95.9 Big FM info from DWBG to 95.9 Big FM.

DO NOT move the Radio Station Info from its name to its callsign just like you did to the Radio Stations in General Santos because it is FINAL.

Pinoybandwagon (talk) 08:34, 26 March 2008 (UTC) THANKS I hope I have understood your instructions correctly about using your user page.Regards, Boselawrence (talk) 12:01, 26 March 2008 (UTC)Boselawrence[reply]

Hello, Orangemike. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion can be found under the topic WP:ANI#Philippine FM Radio Stations. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 16:04, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Jana Kramer

An editor has nominated Jana Kramer, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jana Kramer and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. BJBot (talk) 16:00, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Orangemike. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion can be found under the topic Manila FM radio stations. --Howard the Duck 16:15, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: COI (Modernista!)

Please note that I have not materially contributed to the current Modernista! Wikipedia article. I only created our website. Your COI tag is not valid from my perspective. I'll respectfully leave it up for debate but you have my 2 cents. TimBlount (talk) 16:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

UPDATE Thank you for taking the time to reconsider your COI label for Modernista!. If you could also weigh in with your opinion on deletion regarding notability I'd appreciate it. TimBlount (talk) 20:55, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of Little Bee and The Other Hand

Fair enough - my apologies for making these entries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chriscleave (talkcontribs) 18:52, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Eamon McEneaney

On March 26, you deleted a page for Eamon McEneaney with the comments: "Real person; doesn't indicate importance/significance: db|Non-notable 9/11 victim." Since this is a page I watch, I am surprised it was deleted without it appearing in my watchlist if/when tagged. Neither is it mentioned in the page creators talk page (User talk:10stone5). McEneaney notability was as a lacrosse player. He was a 9/11 victim, yes, but notable since he was inducted into the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame, was awarded prestigeous NCAA lacrosse awards while at Cornell. My recollection was that this was all cited in detail on the page. I am requesting that you re-instate this article. If you think there are issues that need to be addressed, please let me know. Mitico (talk) 19:30, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I appreciate the quick response . I am not having much luck with d.o.b, will keep looking. Mitico (talk) 21:48, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Speedy Deletion of Doctor Steel

I do understand as an admin, you wish to keep Wikipedia free of spam/malicious content. However, I do feel the speedy deletion of an article I created, Doctor Steel, was unnecessary. Doctor Steel is a notable person in the music industry. He has been interviewed many times, and has even appeared on The Tonight Show with Jay Lenno, and has fans numbering in the tens of thousands. If my article is being deleted due to lack of content, please tell me what I can do to make it acceptable by Wikipedia standards. Aridnyk89 (talk)

Doctor Steel's Talk Page

I thank you for your consideration in keeping the page, however the talk portion of the page is currently protected, so I cannot edit or claim my case in the notability of the artist. Please help me. Aridnyk89 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 13:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I do appreciate the time you've spent on helping me clean up my Wiki entry, I know you don't need to do this, and can just delete it if seen fit, so I thank you. I hope to bring the article to your satisfactory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aridnyk89 (talkcontribs) 14:29, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Doctor Steel Relevance

I believe I have provided enough reliable references and citations to prove the notability of my Doctor Steel article, if not, please let me know and i will continue editing. Aridnyk89 (talk) 17:11, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This fact from the Radiosmasher is TRUE:

If the official call sign has a prefix (DW- and DZ- in Luzon, DY- in Visayas, DX- in Mindanao), a redirect or disambiguation should be added for the call sign without the prefix. For stations which do not have a prefix, place the broadcast years in parentheses; for example, "DWRT (1976-2006)". See Radiosmasher for more information on assignment practices.

Brand names such as "Net 25", "UNTV" or "99.5 Campus FM" are very often unique. Even though "Campus Radio Baguio" or "Wild FM Davao" are not appropriate article titles, a brand name may, however, be created as Radio Station and its Dial (Ex. 92.7 "Campus Radio" or "Dream 106.7") page where appropriate.

Radiosmasher (talk) 16:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware that you have rewritten the Phillipine Radio Stations portion of the naming conventions in this bizarre and inappropriate manner. I am sorry about it, but it's not important enough to me to fight you. I regret, however, that this kind of nonsense goes on. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:41, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah. It's not important enough to you to fight Radiosmasher. You better do something else. Cheers. Bf2 (talk) 15:47, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You ought to be aware that Radiomasher has re-created the articles that you moved back on their original place, and put threats of blocking on at least one of their talk pages [2]. I wanted to tag it for speedy-deletion, but I can't find the correct template :( Also, I am technically away and with no time to edit wikipedia, so I can't give my attention to this problem, and I'll have to hand it to you like on this state. Cheers. --Enric Naval (talk) 18:29, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Also probably recreated this here [3]. Just check his contributions --Enric Naval (talk) 18:30, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I have opened a case for sockpuppetry involving Pinoybandwagon and Radiomasher. I thought you would want to hear Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Pinoybandwagon‎ --Enric Naval (talk) 13:40, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion of NetBox Blue

Hello Orange Mike. I wrote the article for NetBox Blue and it was deleted because it was deemed to be advertising. I am aware that you are undoubtedly a busy bloke, but I was wondering if you could give me some pointers to help me write it a little better, that won't get it deleted again? I have had the content restored. I am reading through other entries in wikipedia, and trying to model it similar to theirs, but I'm finding it difficult to do. Any Help would be mucho appreciated. Thanks again. --Mickyounger (talk) 00:13, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You!

I do appreciate the time you took in helping me with my wikipedia entry. I will continue to edit and revise the article untill it is perfect. Thank you again for your patience and understanding. --Aridnyk89 (talk) 02:23, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Again!

Thank you for deleting an article I spent a whole lot of time writing and researching about. I strained for days asking for permissions to use photos, stories, etc. You truly are a wonderful moderator who's talents should not be overlooked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Penfish (talkcontribs) 04:57, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand...

"A7 applies only to articles about web content or articles on people and organizations themselves, not articles on their books, albums, software and so on"

why was the article about Mad Funk Entertainment deleted when it contained info on the debut Albulm as well as info on the sophmore albulm as well? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mistawicket (talkcontribs) 13:05, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bettina (Betty) Shaw-Lawrence

In case my other messages haven't reached, I have been informed by Hoof Hearted to contact you on this page. My second partial attempt to write on Bettina was wiped out the moment I pressed on Save Page. I would be most grateful if you could help me to retrieve the article so as to go through it with you. I'm crossing my fingers that the article meets with Wikipedia requirements and that it will only need corrections. Best regardsBoselawrence (talk) 16:28, 28 March 2008 (UTC)Boselawrence[reply]

Signature

Thank you for signature explanation. I normally place the signature. Sorry if i forgot. Good days. --Fotte (talk) 21:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

April Fools' is not a universal holiday

Thank you Orangemike for warning me xxx User:Hyper Girl 13:38, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Wisconsin barnstar

WikiProject Wisconsin Barnstar.png The WikiProject Wisconsin Barnstar
For all of your work developing articles about Wisconsin and defending them from vandalism, I hereby award you the WikiProject Wisconsin Barnstar. Wear it with pride! Royalbroil 19:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notability of Rox3n

I am surprised at the "Speedy deletion" tag for the Rox3n article. Going by your userpage, i get a feeling that you have taken a liking for inserting this tag on various pages which might be relevant in certain cases.

However, the use of the tag on the above mentioned article isnt warranted especially after a newspaper has been quoted for notability. Also, the band is an upcoming music group in India & Pakistan & is of significant interest to many users as can be seen by their entries on various wiki pages (especially on pakistani music groups & upcoming talent in music of the subcontinent)

Thx.  Đõc §aмέέЯ  22:40, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can I please ask why these pages have been:

  1. protected...
  2. indefinitely...
  3. and cascading?

Please reply on my talk page. Thanks! Stifle (talk) 21:08, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Those protected Philippine radio station articles

You'll have to go to Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Pinoybandwagon for the full ugly story of the mess which this represents. Basically, a COI guy in the Philippines, with one or more each of sockpuppets and meatpuppets, has decided that every Philippine radio station has to have a separate article for each new advertising/brandname it has used throughout its history. He has rewritten the naming conventions for radio stations there; has moved, removed, deleted and redeleted, etc., until the GFDL history is probably a hellish nausea of tangled spaghetti almost impossible to trace. (I'm not even going to get into the NPOV and possible BLP violations in the articles he writes.) --Orange Mike | Talk 23:53, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I saw that SSP page but it looks like a trainwreck.
I'm sure you'll unprotect the pages when it's all done; please do leave a comment/reason in the relevant field when you're protecting stuff. Stifle (talk) 09:56, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(lol, looks like a trainwreck) Did I really do such a huge mess, or must he be referring to the answers by the philipine guys? I'm afraid that I tend to just pile arguments one on top of other, which does not make for neat expositions of facts :) --Enric Naval (talk) 15:31, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kronos Incorporated page

You marked this as advertisement speak AND also that I have a conflict of interest in creating these pages.

  • The page shows factual and referenced facts about Kronos as well as a list of products and industries that Kronos does business in. It's not unlike anything that Oracle, Dell or Adobe do. Kronos is a very large corporate software company as well. I don't see any advertisement content here that should be flagged.
  • As far as me having a COA, I was asked to create the page for Kronos and I also am employed by Kronos as a web developer. I haven't hid this as even the email I use is @kronos.com. I was sure to be putting up factual referencable content only and nothing spammy or advertisement like. Wouldn't you agree Orangemike? --Ken Savage (talk) 18:53, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies

I just wanted to say again that I apologize for bringing up the incident about you hardblocking users on WP:AN without addressing you about it first. I know that we're all trying to look out for Wikipedia and I probably seemed a little harsh. I'll be sure not to make the same mistake in the future. Cheers.--Urban Rose 23:20, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changed to {{{db-web}}}. I don't think it's a hoax, but I don't find significant media coverage or assertion of notability. Might by spammy as well (?) Cheers, Dlohcierekim 21:03, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When I saw the message bar light up, I thought it would be the creator. I did not even find the thing at the link provided. I don't get a Google hit for the ""The O'Finky Factor" at the "http://topsites.blogflux.com/politics/". I'm sure there is such a site, but I don't see notability; and the link does not substantiate the assertion thereof. I'll glad to give someone time to establish notability, but I don't think it is going to happen in this instance. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 21:13, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

--- 4/2/08 In this instance you are incorrect. The link does exist and is in fact listed in the BlogFlux top political sites, with reviews. In fact, the direct link to a review PROVIDED BY BLOGFLUX last year can be found at: http://www.blogflux.com/users/ofinky/.

The site is real and not a spam. www.ofinky.squarespace.com.

Eric. Clearwater, FL

Nisi Shawl page: wikification and citations?

Hi -- I'm Jed Hartman, a WisCon regular; I've seen you there lots of times but I don't know if we've ever met in person. (I've also been a low-volume Wikipedia editor for a while, and I sometimes try to smooth out interactions between the sf community and Wikipedia.) The following is meant in a friendly and cooperative tone, but I'm trying to be brief so I apologize if it ends up sounding brusque.... I was just talking with Nisi Shawl, who was concerned about the wikify and citation-needed templates that you put on the Wikipedia article about her. It looks to me like the article is pretty heavily wikified already, though I can see a few items I can imagine adding links to; and I wasn't clear on what you wanted to see cited--is the issue that the citations are formatted incorrectly (I can fix that), that some of the citations are to her home page, or that there are items that should be cited but that aren't? I tried to drop you a note in email, going into more detail with these questions, but the email address on your home page bounced. So could you either drop me a note in email (logos@kith.org), or put some comments in the Talk page for the article about Nisi, to clarify the templates? Thanks! --Elysdir (talk) 04:34, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fedogan & Bremer

Hi - I noticed that you changed the publisher of Frost in the Donald Wandrei article from "F & B Mystery" to Fedogan & Bremer Mystery". I'm going to change it back. F & B Mystery is an imprint of Fedogan & Bremer and I have noted that in the Fedogan & Bremer article which F & B Mystery redirects to. My reason for changing it back is that the title page of the book actually only uses the initials. In fact the only way the publisher is listed on the title page with their logo. The Chalker/Owings reference doesn't make a distinction for Frost and it is listed in the Fedogan & Bremer section, however they do explain the imprint and list it as "F & B Mystery" in their entry on The Last Pin. The Locus index [4] lists the publisher as "Fedogan & Bremer/F&B Mystery". In any case, it looks like it's just F&B when referring to the imprint, which is why I'm changing it back. If you disagree, please let me know. I just didn't want to undo your edit without an explanation.--Rtrace (talk) 13:59, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

RE: User:Birlinn unblock

Yes, completely an error on my part. I apologize. I've left him another note, and will watch to see what he does. Thanks for letting me know. - Rjd0060 (talk) 15:52, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Guess the user knew anways, [5]. - Rjd0060 (talk) 15:57, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

HOLY CRAP: Speedy deletion of Matthew Maher (actor) while I was editing!

I was in the process of creating a page for the actor largely because it seemed inevitable that some other user would re-link the John from Cincinnati page to either the hockey playing Matthew Maher or the musical Matt Maher when you nominated the page for deletion, and then zapped it. Perhaps you're being too quick on the draw? --Chetfarmer (talk) 20:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notable, I think. Significant role on Gone Baby Gone. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 20:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Orangemike. Might I ask you to take another look at this deletion you speedied as "G3: vandalism"? If you look here you can see some evidence that this chart may actually exist. My thought was that at the very least the AfD should be allowed to run its course. Thanks. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 21:16, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I just noticed your comment on its Talk page—after I had gone ahead and "unclosed" the freshly closed AfD! Did I make a mistake in re-opening the AfD discussion instead of starting a whole new one? Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 21:39, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Pages

Hi Orangemike is there any way that a message could be put on this page to remind editors who are patrolling to mark them as patrolled. Maybe i'm in a bad humour :( but it is very annoying when you click on a page and it has been patrolled already, thanks. BigDunc (talk) 22:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

lulz

I noticed that you have posted comments in a language other than English. When on the English-language Wikipedia, please always use English, no matter to whom you address your comments. This is so that comments may be comprehensible to the community at large. If the use of another language is unavoidable, please provide a translation of the comments. For more details, see Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Thank you. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:09, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No biggie, the IP is a *expletive deleted* and it is tempting to respond in kind, especially after constant nonsense and incivility. I really try to not template the experienced users, but I thought the "lulz" header would give you a laugh and perhaps give you a moment to disconnect and breathe real air. Have fun! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:18, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Your Esperanto is much better than mine, but it made me think it might be fun to get back into the study. It was something I enjoyed while I was doing it, but I got annoyed by the people in my local e-klubo, who were stunningly socially retarded even for nerds. Maybe I'll carve out a little time over breakfast for some quiet reading. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 17:14, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See the exhaustingive discussion at User_talk:Struthious_Bandersnatch. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 20:36, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments on the issue, man. I kind of agree with you that it might be worthwhile to have a higher standard of notability than having books in the permanent collections of major libraries. But the thing to do is to change the policy, not sally forth and fight over completely factual and current-policy-fulfilling articles as some have been wont to. --❨Ṩtruthious ℬandersnatch❩ 22:21, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I forgot to say, that photo of you at the Democratic Convention is awesome. --❨Ṩtruthious ℬandersnatch❩ 22:22, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm running to be an Obama delegate this year; county caucuses are this coming Sunday, and I've got my fingers crossed. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. I think that, if I ever met you, I would like you. Do you go to Pennsic? I'm there every year... -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:24, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I joined the SCA before there was a Pennsic (A.S. VI), but have never gotten there. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

reply to your advice

I have replied with a question to your posting about Copyright Issues on my talk page. Noahveil (talk) 23:38, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You like cats, too ;-)

Thanks for the greeting, Fellow Worker! I try not to betray too much about myself on my user page (let my edits speak for me instead), but the sab-cat is a must. This flag once was red  06:30, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Simon Bruce

Oh ok. I will work on it some more. I am trying to comply. --Sarahmckem (talk) 15:35, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please explain my code violation I read the conflict of interest and I dont see how it applies.--Sarahmckem (talk) 15:54, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, he is not my client. I am a 43 year old mother of 2 in San Francisco and I have no connection at all. My 16 year old son lives in Nashville and heard about this kid Simon Bruce. I contacted the girl who made his webpage and asked since she wrote the bio could she make the wikipage page account and upload it because she had all the copywrites and of course I wanted to comply (i have had my own account for 3 years). It was shut down the minute she put it up and I have been on here trying to comply with all the requests to make the page right. I have no conflict of interest, I was just trying to get the sources of the copywrites to upload it themselves.

I had thought it would be better for them to do it than for me to do it. Would it be better for me to make this page under my own established account then, and get many people to request the page?