Talk:2012 Tel Aviv bus bombing

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Yediot Aharonot , whose website is ynet, is Israel's largest-circulation mainstream newspaper. It is perfectly fine as a source. The Times of Israel is also a mainstream newspaper which can be used here. Dixy flyer (talk) 03:44, 26 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Times is an RS and has been reinserted in the article by three editors. Can those bent on removing it first establish why they consider it unreliable? Ankh.Morpork 19:49, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Weasel wording

~~"Reportedly" is not a synonym for "supposedly". "reporting" is what newspapers do. The Times of Israel is a reliable source, as are the following:~~

Reuters: "Sweet cakes were handed out in celebration in Gaza's main hospital" [1]

NBC News: "Sweet cakes were handed out in celebration of the blast in Gaza's main hospital," [2]

Chicago Tribune: "Sweet cakes were handed out in celebration in Gaza's main hospital" [3]

The Jerusalem Post: "Sweet cakes handed out in Gaza's main hospital after TA bombing," [4]

Euronews: "sweets were passed round the Kamal Adwan and Shifa hospitals in Gaza City." [5]

The Jewish Press: "Hamas Celebrates Bus Explosion with Sweet Cakes" [6]

The Washington Times: "Hamas hands out sweet cakes for bus bombing" [7]

~~This is very well documented, and your repeated removal of such well sourced information, and/or weasel wording it is disruptive. Dixy flyer (talk) 22:42, 23 December 2012 (UTC)~~[reply]

OR/synthesis

None of these sources appear to mention that the hospital was inundated with wounded from the round-the-clock Israeli bombing and shelling in conjunction with this incident. Please state its souce before restoring this content. Ankh.Morpork 19:53, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It could not be any clearer. The source literally states "Gaza's main hospital, which has been inundated with wounded from the round-the-clock Israeli bombing and shelling." Please revert your disruptive edit. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:06, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I could not see this in the sources used in the article but have located it in some of the listed sources above. I will restore it. Ankh.Morpork 20:22, 25 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend that you just restore the version I edited, since it added the Reuters source where the information was found as well as using that source to support other statements. There is no call to make this difficult. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:40, 26 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Suggested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 21:43, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Shaul Hamelech Street bus bombing → 2012 Tel Aviv bus bombing – More recognizable title. As other such articles: 2012 Burgas bus bombing, 2006 Tel Aviv shawarma restaurant bombing, 2011 Jerusalem bus stop bombing, 2011 Tel Aviv nightclub attack, 2002 Tel Aviv outdoor mall bombing, Beersheba bus bombings, Podujevo bus bombing. No street name in this titles. NickSt (talk) 13:19, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Support None of the sources appear to refer to it as the "Shaul Hamelech Street bus bombing", but rather as the "Tel Aviv bus bombing". — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 19:28, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
support At least outside the country, the name of the city is more recognizable. DGG ( talk ) 22:46, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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