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American English and Date Format[edit]

I've noticed that my edits to make the page format to American English word soccer and the month/day/year keeping changing but it was decided that in any event in the United States, we use American formatting. Can we have a discussion here at least to see what's going on? Please try to remain civil and do not hurl insults but explain your position. Thanks. Digitslain12 (talk) 14:34, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am in agreement that the format for this tournament, as well as the Copa América Centenario, should use American English and MDY date formatting, following the standards set at 1994 FIFA World Cup and 2026 FIFA World Cup. This of course won't stop any page that doesn't have some kind of protection to being subject to those sorts of regular changes, but it should still be followed per MOS:TIES. Jay eyem (talk) 16:22, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Since there has, predictably, been some pushback on this point, I have brought it up at WT:FOOTY for additional input. Jay eyem (talk) 18:00, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks man. I'll leave my comment there. Digitslain12 (talk) 19:20, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

City, State links violating MOS:GEOLINK[edit]

I've noticed that when locations are presented as City, State, both the city and state are being linked separately. According to the Manual of Style, only the city should be linked. Is there any objection to unlinking the states, or is there some reason this page should not be following the MOS? Wburrow (talk) 14:35, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have always thought it was overkill the way it is done on all these tournament pages. I would support making it align with the MOS. Chris1834 Talk 15:28, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've updated this page and the group and final pages to align with MOS:GEOLINK and MOS:NOPIPE as I understand them. Meaning I included the state name/abbr in the link to the city (via redirect if needed, e.g. [[Houston, Texas]] – instead of [[Houston]], Texas or [[Houston|Houston, Texas]] – so that it matches [[Orlando, Florida]].) Wburrow (talk) 20:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I believed that the United States should be treated differently. The country is too big and too complicated, it is basically a unified Europe in the New World. I reckon we should treat each U.S. state as if it were a country (i.e. link both the city and the state). 120.16.24.116 (talk) 11:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
MOS:GEOLINK says we only only link the city regardless of the larger political entity containing the city. So "Paris, France" is correct while "Paris, France" is incorrect. Wburrow (talk) 13:15, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, it is built right in to the guide. Really isn't anything to debate. Chris1834 Talk 13:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's such a stupid rule. What does Green Bay, United States mean to the readers? The only thing we should aviod linking is notable countries (i.e. Paris, France in your example). If we were linking a small city, we should link both the city and state (i.e. Birmingham, Alabama).
Who made that rule? Is there any way we could WP:VOTE and change it? 120.16.11.84 (talk) 21:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's not the rule. For Green Bay It is saying to format as Green Bay, Wisconsin, United States rather than Green Bay, Wisconsin, United States or Green Bay, Wisconsin, United States. I believe the idea is that if you are talking about Green Bay, that is the important part. If you want to learn more about Green Bay you can go to that article and learn about where it is and such.
The Manual of Style is a consensus of years of editors. To change the MOS, you would go to the talk page of the MOS and open a discussion like this. You can see that at the top of the page that MOS:GEOLINK directs to. Chris1834 Talk 21:27, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I agree with the MOS on this one. The state, just like the United States is not the important part. The City is the important part. Chris1834 Talk 21:31, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I reckon that the state is also important, especially for small cities or towns. People generally don't know where these places are. Only notable countries should be avioded of linking. 120.16.11.84 (talk) 22:09, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong map[edit]

The Falkland Islands and South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands are not parts of Argentina. They shouldn't be coloured blue. 120.16.24.116 11:10, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, where is Hawaii? 120.16.24.116 (talk) 11:26, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the ranking method[edit]

I can't find the heading for the ranking method in the group stage, where is it?

From: Japan

(From:Japanese Article Author） Weathermania5 (talk) 16:28, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I just added the Tiebreakers for group round standings - is that what you're looking for? Wburrow (talk) 17:04, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes.Thanks Weathermania5 (talk) 18:33, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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