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December 19, 2009	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on December 18, 2009.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that there is a mountain named after executed merchant mariner Captain Charles Fryatt, and another is named after his ship, SS Brussels?

Facts from this article were featured on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "On this day..." column on July 27, 2012, July 27, 2013, July 27, 2016, July 27, 2020, and July 27, 2024.

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Infobox name

GiantSnowman - time to discuss. This article passed its GA assessment with Fryatt's full name in the infobox. I see no good reason to omit it, it's there in the lede and should be there in the infobox. Mjroots (talk) 11:42, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But it is in the inbox? It just simply isn't the title. Giant Snowman 11:46, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@GiantSnowman: Your edit changed the name displayed above the photograph in the infobox from "Charles Algernon Fryatt" to "Charles Fryatt". It passed GA with the former. Mjroots (talk) 11:52, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

...your point being what? That the GA process is entirely infallible? Giant Snowman 14:02, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

My point being that (IMvHO) the infobox looks better with his full name displayed above the photograph. Mjroots (talk) 16:18, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But that is not standard. Oh and based on these edits by @Thats Just Great:, this article also passed GA with a wrong date in the article... Giant Snowman 16:20, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It passed with the date given in the quoted source, the Great Eastern Railway Magazine. Mjroots (talk) 18:38, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

What is the Great Eastern Railway Magazine? Seems to be a dead link. In the Way Back Machine though it says "On the night, June 22/23, 1916 with refugees on board and cargo of foodstuffs, the 'Brussels' left the Hook of Holland. Two days later she was heard of as captured and taken into Zeebrugge." I think this is where the confusion lies. As it says the ship left Holland on the evening of July 22 morning of 23 and nothing was heard of its fate until 2 days later, June 25. The other sources tell us that the ship left the night of June 22nd. Early morning of the 23rd it was captured, entering a Belgian port and then two days later, June 25, the news made it back to the UK. -- Thats Just Great (talk) 23:46, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great Eastern Railway Magazine

Right now Great Eastern Railway Magazine is just a dead link.-- Thats Just Great (talk) 23:46, 27 July 2020 (UTC) I propose the following cite format:[reply]

*{{cite web |ref=harv|last=Great Eastern Railway Magazine |date=2003|url = http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/irs/irshome/features/readings/readings.htm#EX01|title =The case of Captain Fryatt|publisher = [[University of York]]| accessdate = July 27, 2020|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20050525150855/http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/irs/irshome/features/readings/readings.htm#EX09|archive-date=May 25, 2005}}

Great Eastern Railway Magazine (2003). "The case of Captain Fryatt". University of York. Archived from the original on May 25, 2005. Retrieved July 27, 2020. {{cite web}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)

@Thats Just Great: - please do, if the wayback machine can reproduce the pages. If it can't, the lose the url; it's the magazine which is the reference, however it is accessed. Mjroots (talk) 11:53, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done-Thats Just Great (talk) 17:34, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A few issues - The magazine is not dated 2003. {{sfn}} is not for citing journals. What about all the other GERM references? Mjroots (talk) 18:45, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The University of York link seems to pull all the articles and list them on the same page which is dated 2003 -- Thats Just Great (talk) 04:08, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]