Talk:Chatsworth station

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Requested move

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The result of the move request was: moved to "Chatsworth Station". Simpler. DrKiernan (talk) 08:46, 17 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Chatsworth Metro Orange Line (Metrolink & Amtrak station) → ? – This article needs to be moved, but I'm not sure to what name. The current title is a mess and lacks any kind of formatting. The problem is that this one station serves three different modes of transportation - Metro Liner, Amtrak, and Metrolink and it wouldn't be "fair" to disambiguate the page to one specific service (i.e. Chatsworth (Amtrak station), Chatsworth (Metrolink station), Chatsworth (Los Angeles Metro station)). Another issue is that the station does not have a formal name other than simply "Chatsworth", although the lead sentence in the article says "Chatsworth Transportation Center", but I can't seem to find any reliable sources or evidence that that name is used. So should it be renamed to simply Chatsworth (station)? I'm not sure, but the current name cannot remain in place. –Dream out loud (talk) 16:23, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Chatsworth Station without any disambiguating phrase in parentheses. This application of WP:PRECISION is consistent with other California multi-modal station articles such as Embarcadero Station in San Francisco, Diridon Station in San Jose, and Sacramento Station in Sacramento, where "[X] Station" seems to be a more common name used in reliable sources than "[X] Transit Center". Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:57, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 17 July 2024

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page at this time, per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 05:01, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Chatsworth station → Chatsworth Transportation Center – In line with other station articles which use their formal names (ex: San Bernardino Transit Center, Fullerton Transportation Center, Irvine Transportation Center) which seems to be the general precedence for naming train station articles. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 09:23, 17 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 12:59, 24 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 00:12, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Support per nom. Mjroots (talk) 14:34, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Unlike San Bernardino Transit Center, where the name provides a natural disambiguation from the nearby San Bernardino Santa Fe Depot, there is only one notable Chatsworth station. The natural name is Chatsworth station, so I don't support switching to a more formal name. RickyCourtney (talk) 15:31, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: I don't see a compelling case that "Chatsworth Transportation Center" is actually the common name. The Metrolink site doesn't use that name at all. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:04, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Images

@RobotGoggles: While I understand your desire for a newer infobox image, the image that you are adding is not the best choice. The foreground is entirely in shadow, and the station building is hidden by the shelter and trees. The previous picture is better-lit and shows the station building. Because there have not been substantial changes to the rail side of the station since 2006, there's no problem with having the older photo - it's not "out of date". If you have another opportunity to photograph the station, I would recommend midday light, and either replicate the angle of that older photo or the same angle of a train that you took. There were also several other issues with your edits:

The station building is not "historic"; per the text, it is a 1990s replica.
Where is "Chatsworth Depot" used on signage? The November 2023 Street View imagery shows "Chatsworth" used on Metrolink, Metro, and Amtrak signage.
When adding images, you need to consider how the formatting will fit on desktop. The right-aligned image of the train is pushed below the infobox - completely away from the prose - on desktop.

Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:20, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1. There have been substantial changes to the station that warrant a new photo. In the 2006 photo, the bench shelters are bright red. This is not the case anymore. In 2006, the trees planted outside of the depot were smaller and younger, they've grown a lot in the last 18 years. These two details alone are enough to update the photo.

2. You're right in pointing out that the depot is a replica, I have no issue with removing that language. I uploaded this image when I was on the train and did not read the article closely enough. That is my mistake. I do not mind changing that language.

3. At the station itself the building is signed at multiple places (the G Line platform, the Metrolink platform, and in the building itself) as Chatsworth Depot. There are signs and directions instructing passengers how to get to and enter the Depot. But considering what you pointed out about the depot being a replica, I suspect those signs could simply be directing people to the building and not the station as a whole. If I were at Chatsworth again, I would go to the street and see what it says there to double check.

4. The image of the train waiting at the station is unnecessary and I know what you mean about the formatting pushing it under the prose. I faced a similar problem with the Raid on Area 51 article when I was uploading my images there. I'm perfectly fine with removing it, or setting it to left align. Either option is fine by me.

RobotGoggles (talk) 12:47, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think those are substantial enough changes to justify using an image with poor lighting. Again, if you're able to get an updated image with better lighting, that would be great.

"Signed as" specifically refers to the name used on the primary identification signs on station platforms. You can see here that Metrolink, Amtrak, and Metro platform signs all say "Chatsworth". While secondary directional signage does refer to the "depot", it's not being used as the actual station name.

I've made the changes in items 2 and 4. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 23:16, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]