Talk:Digital Revolution

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Concerns about the Digital Revolution page[edit]

I came to this article after reading the article about the industrial revolution, and the contrast was jarring. This article is doesn't seem to have the depth I'd expect given that this is likely the single most important event of the last 50 years. There are just a couple sentences about each decade, no mention of some of the early pioneers. I know that there are articles on these specifics within Wikipedia, but I think this specific article would be improved if it had at least enough of a framework to link all these elements together (for example, you should have something to link to people like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Wozniak, etc. Also, the advent of CD's was mentioned, but no real discussion of the incredible pace of technological advancement (Moore's Law, etc.). Also, there isn't much about the web, especially the transition from dial-up to broadband.

Lastly, and in my view most importantly, there is a very limited and, in my opinion negatively biased, discussion of the greater impact from this revolution. The statement about the economic impacts was vague and provided no objective measure (statistics), and the key advantage noted was the protection against totalitarianism (which, while important, doesn't really come to mind for most of us when thinking about how our lives have changed over this time). What about the incredible gains in productivity/efficiency? Scientific advances enabled by our technology? Reduced barriers to entry & lower fixed costs for businesses? Increased power of individuals, such that one normal person really can change the world now via the internet? I don't disagree that the automation & outsourcing have cost a lot of jobs, but my guess is on balance the technology has actually created more jobs, even in America.

As I stated at the top, I had just read about the industrial revolution, and it too exacted significant costs in terms of automating or transplanting jobs, forcing workers into low-paying and unpleasant jobs, etc. However, it's page notes the overwhelmingly positive overall impact of such technological progress, and I'd expect this page would as well.

I hope this is read simply as helpful criticism, not of complaining or insulting. I am not an expert on this topic and so can't personally improve the page, but I just wanted to express my opinions as a reader. I hope you find these suggestions helpful, thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pullmaniacs (talkcontribs) 09:01, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, you have to remember that the Digital Revolution is still ongoing, so its imply not realistic to expect it to be described in the same amount of depth as the Industrial Revolution, which historians have been studying for well over a century. I agree that the article could use more sources and better analyses and so on, but the kind of sources and analyses we'd like to have simply don't exist yet. We need to wait until we have a fuller picture, and that's why at the moment there's not much to say besides generalizations. Overall, though I like the overall drive of the article and expect in the years to come it will be properly fleshed out.theBOBbobato (talk) 17:44, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

--Another Concern About the Digital Revolution--

I once wrote the treatment here for the Digital Revolution and it lasted for four months before someone flagged it for source. If the truth were understood, it would be clear that what has happened so far is only and evolution and not a revolution. Nowhere in the verbiage is the allusion to the profound implications of our media going from linear to non-linear. In truth, that which we call "politics" exists in the forms that they do to address information and implications which do not fit into the standard units of existing linear media--from the simple letter to book to video to film. All are straight lines of streamed thought which involves editorial and this political decisions as to what to put in and what to leave out to communicate what the writer or producer considers of highest priority. Politics exist because it is assumed that an entire truth can not be conveyed in a unit of linear communication. If you take that limitation and smash it into a thousand pieces and build repositories into the unit of knowledge transfer. and come up with a standard modality for conveying not just information but understanding of it, society will change as much around that as it changed from horse to automobile power. Linearity versus non-linearity shifts responsibility in communications. Since the linear page of paper is no longer the defacto unit of knowledge transaction, the very need to vote for representatives to go to a place where political drama ensues as to fact and intention in communications, it is possible to use the full spectrum of time to bring governance to the people and their understanding and intention back as stated votes for issues of collective progress and priorities. Over time this would shrink the power and significance of the partisan layers in between "the people" and execution of their will. The "revolution" is not in the chip or the computer or the drop in costs for devices. It is in not only what we make of digital technology but what it makes of us in that we are not static creatures of limited intellect but creatures of neuroplastic dynamism whose capacity grows or atrophies based upon what we are motivated to do (or if we instead are not motivated to accept any challenge). The fact that we have not yet reformed to address this neuroplastic nature ensures that politics is in great part a contest between persons of more developed capacities versus ones of less. And if less outnumbers more, we will be stuck for long periods under the direction of those who take advantage of the under-developed and under-motivated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JimmyMack1955 (talkcontribs) 17:57, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

--Cellphone users 2010-- I am just curious, as I was reading the stats for cellphone and internet users, does this also include the fact that some people use the internet on their cellphones and may not use internet at home as a result? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.91.184.128 (talk) 08:03, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Something wrong...?[edit]

Under the section "Rise in Digital Technology Use", under 2010, it says that the Internet has 1,800 billion users. Unless I'm mistaken, the Internet hasn't spread outside of the Earth yet, so this number is wrong. Should that be 1.8 billion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikihunter734 (talkcontribs) 23:00, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Proposed merge discussion notice[edit]

FYI: Pointer to relevant discussion elsewhere

See Talk:Information Age#Suggested merges  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  01:40, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

missing infos[edit]

Almost all inventions of the so called digirev come from East Asia. --ElpJo84 (talk) 07:44, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

When did the digital revolution start?[edit]

The opening of the article says the digital revolution started somewhere in the 1950s to 1970s era. However, Economist Robert Gordon argues that the digital revolution didn't start until 1996 or so, when its impact began to be reflected in productivity statistics. [1] Any thoughts on expanding the range of times when the revolution began? Robert Gordon is pretty mainstream as far as I know. Tedsanders (talk) 19:21, 9 June 2015 (UTC) 1996 is when the digital revolution *ended*. The revolution over, productivity rose.

It began in 011110111100. (Sorry, I couldn't resist.) --A D Monroe III (talk) 19:44, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

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