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First word usage[edit]

When this word was first written? Did Primary Chronicle use the word? mikka (t) 22:33, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it does. --Ghirlandajo 06:56, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Archaeological excavations suggest that druzhinas existed in the region as far back as the 6th and 7th centuries.

I don't see how archaeology could prove the existance of druzhinas. Perhaps a citation would be appropriate. --Ghirlandajo 06:56, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Germanic cognates[edit]

The name is derived from the Slavic word drug (друг) with the meaning of "companion, friend". It is a cognate of the Germanic drottin (Proto-Germanic *druhtinaz) meaning "war band".

Proto-Germanic *druhtinaz presumably meant "lord" (in the loose sense of a military and political leader or king), given its attested reflexes in the various Germanic languages: Old English dryhten, Old Norse dróttinn, Old Saxon drohtin, Old High German truhtin. The word was also borrowed from Proto-Germanic or Ancient Nordic into Finnish, where it survives as *ruhtinas. The old Germanic word with equivalent meaning to Slavic druzhina is attested as Old Norse drótt, Old Frisian drecht, Old Saxon druht, Middle High German trucht. The article drott suffers from a similar confusion; in Old Norse dróttinn was the "lord"; his body of retainers was the drótt.--Dependent Variable.

According to referenced dictionary, droog- The Russian word comes from O.C.S. (Old Church Slavonic) drugu "companion, friend, other" (cf. Boh. drug "companion," Serbo-Cr. drugi "other").--Yopie (talk) 21:28, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Ibn Fahdlan[edit]

Every single book I have ever read that talks of Ibn Fahdlan's account says that he described Vikings, so how can this article state without any weazel terms that he described Slavs? Moreover, this "trizna" term is it taken from a Russian book, or does it appear in his Arabic? I move the section here:

The first original record of their existence related to the history of East Slavs is in the memoirs of Ahmad ibn Fadlan, who while describing burial habits of a chieftain of a people he called the Rūs ( روس ), mentions that their leader had in his household a detachment of four hundred warriors. He describes a human sacrifice of the most devoted ones among them (a trizna) when the chieftain dies.

If it needs to be in the article, please motivate.--Berig (talk) 12:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced material[edit]

This article has a great deal of unsourced material in it. I have added cn tags to some of the content without sources. If sources are not added the material should be deleted. // Timothy :: talk 12:48, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]