Talk:Eurovision Song Contest 2019
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UK chart position incorrect for the compilation
[edit]It should say 3. This was its peak in the chart dated 24 May. I don't know how to change the source, but hopefully someone else can. Here's thr link showing that it peaked at 3
https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/official-compilations-chart/20190524/7503/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vauxhall1964 (talk • contribs) 23:02, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
Bulgaria and Ukraine "withdrawing"
[edit]@Drakeand: I would like to ask why you keep re-adding that they withdrew from the contest? Bulgaria never intended to participate in the first place, so saying they withdrew is misleading. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 01:29, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- I only edited it so it looks better in grammatically correct English. It sounds funny to write something like "Though they participated in 2018, they were absent this year". Better to re-write that to more correctly sounding "With (country) deciding not to participate/withdrawing this year". Also, "withdrawing" does not necessarily refer to that they actually withdrew before meaning to participate, more that they did not participate this particular year. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drakeand (talk • contribs) 01:36, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Drakeand: If I withdraw from something, then that by definition means I was (going to be) participating in that thing before I withdrew. Personally I don't see what's wrong with the previous phrasing, at least it's not grammatically wrong. I guess something like "deciding not to participate/return after participating in the 2018 contest" could also work. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 01:41, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- It has worked for all other years, so, again, why is it a problem now for this year? The other phrasing, no it isn't "technically" a grammatical mistake, but it sounds really weird and not something you would hear in a native english phrasing. Your suggestions works really good though — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drakeand (talk • contribs) 02:14, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- We've found that it actually never worked for people outside of the Eurovision-realm. There have been several discussions about the term over the years (here's a recent one). The bottom line is that unless an entity has committed to something, it cannot withdraw its decision. Grk1011 (talk) 15:32, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Drakeand: You don't need to "agree" with what was already decided, but you certainly need to act accordingly unless you've made a convincing case to others that you're right. It is inappropriate to add additional uses of "withdraw" after it has been pointed out that the term isn't used anymore. It has already been decided and you're of course welcome to restart the discussion and make a case, but until then, knowingly using it is considered vandalism or at least not in WP:GOODFAITH. Additionally, any unsourced information can always be removed immediately no mater how long it has been in an article. Grk1011 (talk) 16:12, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- It has worked for all other years, so, again, why is it a problem now for this year? The other phrasing, no it isn't "technically" a grammatical mistake, but it sounds really weird and not something you would hear in a native english phrasing. Your suggestions works really good though — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drakeand (talk • contribs) 02:14, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Drakeand: If I withdraw from something, then that by definition means I was (going to be) participating in that thing before I withdrew. Personally I don't see what's wrong with the previous phrasing, at least it's not grammatically wrong. I guess something like "deciding not to participate/return after participating in the 2018 contest" could also work. ―Jochem van Hees (talk) 01:41, 13 January 2022 (UTC)
Split results missing
[edit]It appears the split results were removed. SatireisUnderrated (talk) 01:11, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
- They have not been removed, they have now been merged within the results tables in the Participating countries section. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 09:35, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
Orphaned references in Eurovision Song Contest 2019
[edit]I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Eurovision Song Contest 2019's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Participants":
- From Eurovision Song Contest 2016: Jordan, Paul (26 November 2015). "43 countries represented in Stockholm!". eurovision.tv. European Broadcasting Union. Retrieved 26 November 2015.
- From Eurovision Song Contest 2008: "Participants | Eurovision Song Contest - Belgrade 2008". European Broadcasting Union. Archived from the original on 18 January 2008. Retrieved 22 February 2023.
- From Eurovision Song Contest 2021: "41 Countries to participate at Eurovision 2021". European Broadcasting Union. 26 October 2020. Archived from the original on 29 October 2020. Retrieved 26 October 2020.
- From Eurovision Song Contest 2012: "Participants of Baku 2012 - Eurovision Song Contest". European Broadcasting Union. Retrieved 5 December 2019.
- From Junior Eurovision Song Contest 2015: "Participants of Sofia 2015". junioreurovision.tv. European Broadcasting Union. Retrieved 26 September 2019.
- From Eurovision Song Contest 2020: "41 countries will 'Open Up' at Eurovision 2020 in Rotterdam". European Broadcasting Union (EBU). 13 November 2019. Archived from the original on 13 November 2019. Retrieved 13 November 2019.
- From Eurovision Song Contest 2013: "Eurovision Song Contest Participants – Malmö 2013". European Broadcasting Union. 1 March 2013. Archived from the original on 8 February 2013. Retrieved 1 March 2013.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. Feel free to remove this comment after fixing the refs. AnomieBOT⚡ 03:20, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
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