Talk:Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children

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Explaining plot better[edit]

Would a setting section be useful to make the plot easier to understand? The section currently has 658 words and adding far more could be overdoing it. Additionally, we could make a cast section as in the other anime film article Persona 3 The Movie: Chapter 1, Spring of Birth. Any suggestions? Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 14:39, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi. That's part of what I originally suggested earlier. So, I guess that means a support. :) Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 16:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Music issue[edit]

Hello, guys

Finding sources sometimes gives one a bad headache, especially, if one is not good with Japanese sources. I've been looking for sources about the music and different sources say different things about the ending theme. Two sources have shown me contradictory screenshots at 1920×1080 resolution showing the ending credit roll: One says:

«THEME SONG»
"CALLING"
PERFORMED BY
"Kyosuke Himuro"

The other says:

«THEME SONG»
"Safe and Sound"
PERFORMED BY
"Kyosuke Himuro & Gerard Way"

Now, the 1920×1080 resolution means ACC. But how could this be?

Another source gave me a more confusing answer: English ACC using "Calling" and Japanese ACC uses "Safe and Sound". Wait a minute! Japanese version uses an English song and English version uses a Japanese song? Someone has definitely made a mistake here, but is the director or the source?

Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 09:53, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

CL, I think it is important for you to understand how this text of yours looks to us. From your edit history, I am guessing you found a source that failed verification, made an attempt to find sources of your own for it, couldn't do that, and now you are reporting what you did here as additional explanations for your {{Failed verification}}. But this isn't how this text looks to us: It has no visible connection to your tag and talks about sources for which you provided no external links. Please don't hit me, but WP:WEASEL?
Okay, these are all my guesses but if it is wrong, I am at a loss why must you give yourself "a bad headache" "looking for sources about the music" when it has footnotes. But obviously a source has failed verification and the burden of having found a correct source was with the original contributor. Fleet Command (talk) 12:54, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
To close this issue- I've found a source that says that Gerard Way co-produced and sang a bit on "Safe and Sound", and added it to the article to replace the verification tag. --PresN 22:32, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Interview question[edit]

I've found what is said to be a translation of an interview with Tetsuya Nomura, Takeshi Nozue and Kazushige Nojima; it is given an original publication date of September 14, 2005. It has some interesting information about some of the production. Can anyone find anything about its original source, so it can be cited properly? If not, can it be used or must this information forever be barred from Wikipedia due to its presence on a fan site? --ProtoDrake (talk) 19:43, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Hi. If the original source is found, yes, the fan translation can be used because we have the tool to authenticate it: Google Translate and Bing Translator. CS1 Citation modules allow translation to be added to the original.
Fan sites have some aspects of reliable sources too. Fans can be excellent secondary sources because they collection and preserve with passion. But stay away from their primary sources like toxic! Their theories about the works of fiction is mind boggling 99.99% of times wrong. (They WILL successfully convince you that Lucrecia is Cloud's mother and Hojo is called "Bill" by his fellow scientists.)
Best regards,
Codename Lisa (talk) 21:16, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I hope someone else can succeed where I failed. I had an intensive look. By the way. during that look, I found this different Famitsu interview with the three of them concerning some of the changes and technology involved with Advent Children Complete. From what I read via Google Translate, some of the rendering technology for Complete was then being used by Visual works for the game that is now Final Fantasy XV. --ProtoDrake (talk) 22:03, 20 December 2014 (UTC)

Reference question[edit]

Does anyone know the status on using Anime News Network as a source? Asking because if it's not a reliable source, I'm going to have to spend a ton of time tracking down where they got their information from, they're used heavily in the last few sections. --PresN 00:34, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

From looking around the Anime project and RS/N, it looks like anything under a "/news" url on the site is considered reliable, though I might still try to replace some of them with the original (probably Japanese) source if it's easy to find. --PresN 00:42, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children/GA3. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: NathanWubs (talk · contribs) 20:28, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Planning to review this article tonight. Will take my time as this is my first time reviewing a Gan. So I might finish it up tomorrow. NathanWubs (talk) 20:28, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Rate Attribute Review Comment
1. Well written:
1a. the prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct.

The writing is clear and concise. I do not see any major spelling and grammar errors. Prose in plot section is clear. The setting section helps to make the story section better understandable.

1b. it complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.

Complies with the manual of style guidelines. Lead section is good, not perfect but good.(see FA rec at bottom)

2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
2b. all in-line citations are from reliable sources, including those for direct quotations, statistics, published opinion, counter-intuitive or controversial statements that are challenged or likely to be challenged, and contentious material relating to living persons—science-based articles should follow the scientific citation guidelines.

There are no neutrality issues with this article. Things that might be challenged are properly sourced. Including the plot section not only using itself as source

2c. it contains no original research.

Yes, the content of the article abides by the sourcing. No original synthesis found

3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).

The topics go not in extraneous detail or even mention of details if not written in the article pages and sources themselves.

4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.

No edit wars or major changes going on with the article.

6. Illustrated, if possible, by images:
6a. images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid fair use rationales are provided for non-free content.

All images have rational to them why they adhere to the fair use policy

6b. images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.

All images have a point in context of the article and their placing. Captions are concise and factual

7. Overall assessment.
Waiting for an overview from a mentor if I did things probably. After that I will add my FA recommendations here instead. NathanWubs (talk) 23:18, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
Going to offer a second opinion. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 20:42, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

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