Talk:Hoka Hey Motorcycle Challenge

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"it's a good day to die"[edit]

According to a source specializing in amerindian language (, "hoka hey" and its equivalents don't have a direct translation into English, but were the equivalent of the English "Let's go!" or the spanish "vamanos" (literally "we go"). It was often followed by something like 'today is a good day to die', but doesn't actually mean that itself. Should we change this, even though it seems that the people who organize this event use the 'good day to die' translation? Reverendsteveii (talk) 04:38, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

I was aware this was disputed but hadn't seen an actual source before now. I think it would be good to note that although the event's original organizers apparently believed it had a certain meaning they were mistaken. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:38, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

stuff that I know personally but can't verify with sources yet[edit]

There are several other things I have learned about this event but have been unable to verify yet. I don't have any connection to the actual event, but I do know that a film crew has booked quite a few hotel rooms in Homer for this time period, and stated when booking the rooms that they would be following the riders and making a television documentary. Event organizers have also intimated that a major band will be preforming at the gathering/party after the finish, but they either don't know yet themselves who it will be or don't wish to make it known yet for whatever reason. Hopefully as the time draws nearer I'll be able to verify some of this. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:56, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, the film crew thing has been verified and added to the article, the alleged "major band" remains a mystery... Beeblebrox (talk) 07:47, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
They finally released a list of bands, they apparently didn't get the big name they were looking for, it's mostly local AK bands. Less than one day in there has apparently already been a crash involving some of the riders. This story:[24] was lined from the organizers Facebook page, but there are no details yet. . Beeblebrox (talk) 20:23, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

The production company agreement was terminated before the race began. An independent group did some film work. His name is Jon Compton. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:24, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

Recent changes[edit]

In the interest of not edit warring, I would like to ask if there is some reason the entire description of the 2010 race, which I took the time to provide sources for so that it was all verified information, has been removed. It looks like someone maybe involved with the 2011 event has been whitewashing this article. I also removed a lot of promotional language about "finding the warrior spirit" and so forth that was not written in the neutral tone expected of an encyclopedia and unless a very good reason is posted here I plan to re-introduce all the properly sourced material on the events of 2010 that has been removed. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:37, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

For comparison: as of this edit [25] from last summer, the article had 19 sources. All but one have now been removed. This is not good. Articles are supposed to get more sources as time passes, not less. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:41, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
I was thinking earlier today about taking this article to AfD it was that bad. Given its history (and the involvement of a credbile/respected contributor like yourself) I'd like to see it rescued. Can you point to a particular revision which represents the article "at its best" and I'll rescue the deleted content? --Biker Biker (talk) 15:45, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
Oops, was commenting on your talk page while you were commenting here. I think we can keep some of the new content as it is apparently being run again this year, but the diff I gave above is the last version before the whitewashing began. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:49, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

2010 winner[edit]

We have a discrepancy here. Currently the article says Kelly was disqualified for missing a checkpoint. Putting aside the fact that both of them missed the Fairbanks checkpoint because the organizers failed to have anyone manning it when they got there, the paper here said Barclay's tire was marginally over the line in the photo finish and that was why he was the winner, despite the fact that, again, organizers were not manning the finish line and that photo was actually taken by a reporter from the Homer News. Sources:[26] [27]. Beeblebrox (talk) 15:54, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Perhaps you could correct it as you have a grasp on events? --Biker Biker (talk) 15:58, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
 Done. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:21, 23 April 2011 (UTC)