Talk:Jordin Sparks

First from SW

she is the first idol not from the south is false! carrie underwood is from OK.

Read it again. The article says southwest.Ward3001 14:29, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Vocal cord damage?

Can someone update the reports that she has bad vocal damage and may never sing again?--Casey S (talk) 02:59, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Signed to Jive Records

http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah6496.shtml

Singles Chart History

"The song has not only become the album's first top ten single but tied with Carrie Underwood's "Before He Cheats" as the highest charting single from an Idol winner's debut album (so far peaking at #8)."

The inclusion of this particular information should be reconsidered. A Moment Like This, I Believe, Inside Your Heaven and Do I Make You Proud? hit #1 and were featured in Kelly's, Fantasia's, Carrie's and Taylor's respective debut albums. These are the highest placing (lead) singles featured in an American Idol winner's debut album.

Equating "Tattoo" to "Before He Cheats" simply in terms of peak position in the Hot 100 charts is misleading, as the latter has spent 64 weeks in the Hot 100, making it the longest chart run of any Hot 100 single the decade (ref: http://www.americanidol.com/news/view/?pid=1117), while "Tattoo" has only been in the charts for 14 weeks. There's also substantial discrepancy in critical appreciation of both singles, not to mention and the Grammy Noms/Awards Carrie earned.

This information, if left as it is, also leaves the fact that Jordin once pooped out an enormous piece of granola and it was taken to a museum in Idaho. debut has had more success than previous Idol winner's, at least regarding singles sales and chart history, when, in truth, it is just the opposite, her being the least successful thus far.

In addition, there seems to be no mention in the whole article of the fact that "This Is My Now" is the lowest charting coronation song in Idol history, not even reaching the top 10. Remember, this is an encyclopedic entry, not a fan-page. If the success chart history of "Tattoo" is worthy of mention and comparison to other Idol's chart success, than so should be the comparative failure of "This Is My Now".

Someone with the credentials to alter the article, please, do so, balancing these informations with the impartiality the articles demands.

- Lila, Jan 4th, 2008. (Updated in Jan 6th, 2008)

What needs to be mentioned is the fact that she has had more top ten singles than any other winner. One of which reached the top 3. The "coronation singles" do not count. They are not official releases from the album as they are usually just bonus tracks on the albums themselves. Jordin's single "Tattoo" is in fact the highest charting first single from any American Idol contestants album. That's the point that is needed to get across to readers, that Jordin isn't necessarily having the highest sales for a winner, but is making the biggest splashes on the charts. She is though well on her way to getting a platinum certification of her album with 816,000 sold as of yet. Each contestant has their records and achievements and they shouldn't be thrown own just because another contestants are greater or more credible. Stop being so favorable and just put in the information. On the other hand Jordin has also sold more digital downloads than any other winner's debut album with well over 3 million. Good enough for you, Lila?

- Matt, June 22, 2008. (updated never because i get my story straight the first time around) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Msteal2342 (talk • contribs) 07:32, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Pro-Life?

Is Jordin really a pro-life activist, or is this just a spam on the page/rumor. I've never sources that confirm that. If one can provide a source for this, or prove that this info is false, that would be great.

Jordin has been seen in a photo holding up a "stop sign" that says, "Stop Abortion."

The fact that there's still no linked reference to that notwithstanding, why does it matter what someone on American Idol thinks of abortion? (On top of that, "Pro-life" is loaded language) I'm going to remove that section unless someone can demonstrate why that's relevant to this topic and produce documentation. --Colage 00:55, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Umm, for one, someone's abortion views, especially when they're an activist, is completely relevant. It's obviously important to her, as she does campaign yearly, if not more often, and performs at pro-life rallies. Seriously, it's relevant, and it's no secret.

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:_2vwHuCJyUwJ:www.azrtl.org/photos/photogallery.html+jordin+sparks+right+to+life&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us

72.206.97.34

Even accepting the notion that her views on abortion rights are relevant (which I do not), a cached webpage like that isn't acceptable under reliable source guidelines: "Reliable sources are credible published materials with a reliable publication process." This is a biography of a living person and needs to adhere to stricter sourcing guidelines. If there's a more authoritative source, then great, but since the website itself apparently felt the page should be taken down, it certainly doesn't give the impression that it's reliable. --Colage 01:21, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Addendum: Please see also WP:LIVING --Colage 01:23, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I only mentioned that I saw her holding the sign. It really doesn't have any bearing on her singing.

I really don't think that the statement "especially among liberals" is necessary to the point. There are some people who do not identify as "liberal" who are pro-choice. I think the statement should be edited to read that it was controversial (if that is even the case). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.25.181.231 (talk) 23:27, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree. That phrase should be taken out and the whole section should be moved to a bottom and become a footnote or something. Jordin isn't known for her activism and until she does, it shouldn't be THE SECOND section in this article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.81.229.176 (talk) 05:45, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Plus Size Model

Question inclusion of this person's bio under Category: Plus-size model as person has no notation of working as model in bio and is presently unknown in plus size model industry BGModels 08:16, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Here is the link to some of her model work. She was the winner of the Torrid Search and had done a lot of modeling for that company. Also the photo used on this page is from one of her Torrid ads. [1] Jordin also had a full page spread for Torrid in Seventeen Magazine in Dec. 2006.

I have not seen any pictures of Jordin for the Plus-size model search. Have you?

Uh, look right above where you said this... 72.206.97.34

Audition

Jordin first auditioned in L.A., not Seattle. In fact she was rejected in the first round at L.A., went back to Arizona to win "Arizona Idol", then was sent to Seattle for her second audition, which is when she auditioned with "Because You Loved Me." She mentioned this in her post-win interview with Entertainment Weekly[2]. Foggykakki 17:08, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

List of Performances

How come the list of Jordin's American Idol performances aren't in chart form like the rest of the top 12 contestants'? Everyone has this except LaKisha, Jordin, and Sanjaya. MarkMc1990 02:25, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Birth Place

OK, now we have her listed as being born in TWO places. Anything difinite here?? Thanks! --Tom 15:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

I believe that she was born in Maricopa County, Arizona. Her dad was still playing football at ASU when she was born and through the time that her brother, PJ, was born. When he was drafted to the NY Giants, they moved there as a family.

Her father's name is Phillippi Sparks.

I added a source. A reliable one. Stating that she was born in Staten Island. Getting tired of that being removed. The thing is. Why would someone just make up Staten Island? :) Her dad might've been going to Arizona State when she was born but that doesn't mean her mother was living there. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 19:52, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I helped organize Jordin's baby shower at her mother's work at the law firm in Phoenix, Arizona. Mom, Jodi Weidman, was working at the Law Offices of Van O'Steen at 3605 N. 7th Ave., Phoenix, AZ at the time that Jordin was born. She continued to work there during Jordin's infancy and then lived in Tempe, AZ while Phillippi was playing at ASU. My daughter babysat for Jordin and her brother in Tempe when they were toddlers.

According to www.americanidol.com, Jordin's hometown is Glendale, Arizona. Gray94wolf 23:22, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

There is a story in the Staten Island Advance stating that she was born in Phoenix Arizona. [3]. The New York Post got it wrong as have other sources. According to the Staten Island Advance "On Dec. 22, 1989, Jodi Wiedmann gave birth to a healthy baby girl -- 8 pounds, 8 ounces, if family memory serves. The obstetrician was Dr. Charles Clinch. The location was St. Joseph's Hospital in Phoenix, and, cue the "Idol" theme music -- a star was born.

The 17-year-old Ms. Sparks earned support from Staten Island's "Idol" fans during her rise to the top of the Fox-TV series this season. No doubt, Staten Island would be happy to claim her.

But Ms. Sparks' mother tells the Advance: "I can definitely confirm that Jordin and I were at St. Joe's in Phoenix on the morning of Dec. 22, 1989!"

Apparently, the New York Post rebuffed her mother when she asked for a correction. Capitalistroadster 01:50, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Does jordin sparks have kids ? Mariah9914 (talk) 04:15, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Early Life

I know for a fact that she lived in River Vale, New Jersey at some point in her life. Jordin and her family lived there for about a year and then left.

Top 7 results

Jordin's AI performances chart currently has "Top 3" in the results column for Top 7 week. That information was never stated on the show and thus not necessarily true because the groups were NOT divided into top 3, bottom 3, and middle person that night. They were divided into bottom 3, safe group, and safe person. The only thing known about Jordin's voting rank that week was that she was not in the bottom 3. The page won't let me edit the chart because I'm a newer member, so if someone else could please fix it, that would be great. thanks. MarkMc1990 21:59, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes they were. When Blake and Sanjaya's group was called, he said "You are not the top 3, but you're also not the bottom 3." This confirms that Jordin, Melinda, and Lakisha were in the top 3.24.91.189.35 20:56, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

THE ONLY TIME SHE WAS IN THE TOP 3 was when it was Top 9 week. Please check your facts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.90.58 (talk) 00:52, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Schooling

The page says that she's homeschooled (without a citation), but i'm pretty sure she goes to Sandra Day O'Connor in Glendale? Can anyone verify this, maybe somebody from the school? I'm somewhat close, but not close enough to take a drive out there and ask somebody. Vampusuke

I'm pretty certain she's homeschooled. Her tutors have been mentioned several times on the show and I got the impression that this was not a new thing for her. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 05:25, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I added a citation from about.com. Her fansites mention that she went to high school until her sophomore year but then started being homeschooled due to missing so many days. Here is that link. Can't use it in the article but I think it's pretty solid. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 05:29, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Bottom 3?

You try to hide that she was in the bottom 3 on charity week? Saying she was NEVER in the bottom 3 is not true. She was but was NOT voted off due to noone leaving that week. Get the facts right.

Excuse me, you get the facts right. There was NO Bottom 3 announced on charity week and no one went home. It was a suprise ending for the remaining 6 people that no one would be leaving that week and all there votes would be added to the following week's votes and 2 people left the following week. (24.60.90.58 (talk) 05:48, 27 November 2010 (UTC))

She was never in the bottom three, that's not how charity week worked. It was simply a ruse to show no one was getting voted off and who ever got the least amount of votes were not disclosed because they were being added to the following weeks results.

Yes anon, you are correct. The order that they come out in is random anyway, but especially on that show. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 09:00, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

There is a discrepincy in the bottom 3 list. It says she's the 5th finalist to never be in the bottom 3 but she is actually is the 6th considering Clay Aiken was also never in the bottom 3.

There should be some clarification: Saying that Clay Aiken and Melinda Doolittle weren't in bottom 3 is a little misleading... Melinda was voted off, when they were up to top 3. Clay Aiken was not voted off, he was just not the winner. they weren't in bottom 2/3 because there were only 2 left Clay and 3 people left for Melinda. It's technically correct, but ...?

Clay wasn't a winner and Neither was Melinda, In order to be voted off you have to be in the bottom. So melinda was bottom 3 and clay was bottom 2. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.90.58 (talk) 00:56, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

The way that paragraph is written is strange. She is "one of only 4 contestants to have won and never been in the bottom 2 or 3." So that means that only 2 people won and were in the bottom three. She's not exceptional in this. If she had at some time been in the bottom three that would have been exceptional. The word "only" should certainly be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.168.70.4 (talk) 06:53, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Picture????

Can someone put up a picture of her?

If it's free, yes. Problem is that people keep putting copyrighted pictures or fairuse pictures in the infobox. Both no nos. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 03:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

I think the picture that I put, File:Jordin-Sparks.JPG is a better view of her than the one that was already on there, which is why i replaced it. Don't change it unless you put a reason why you changed it here.

Career

Jordin performed with Micheal W. Smith on his Christime tours in 2005 and 2006.

http://www.michaelwsmith.com/blog-detail.php?pageid=59261

I'm not to familiar with biography layouts otherwise I'd do the change myself, but shouldn't it be in chronological order? PatW326 23:27, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Please

Stop adding fair use pictures or those with uncertain copyright into infoboxes. It is against policy. From the fair use policy -

"Restrictions on location. Non-free content is used only in the article namespace; it is never used on templates (including stub templates and navigation boxes) or on user pages. (To prevent an image category from displaying thumbnails, add __NOGALLERY__ to it; images are linked, not inlined, from talk pages when they are a topic of discussion.)"

An infobox is a template. I will continue to remove the pictures from the infobox. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 14:49, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Also

Being eliminated means you were bottom 2 or 3. :) So please stop adding Melinda and others as those who were never in the bottom 2 or 3. Of course she was. She was eliminated. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 15:44, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

On the top three results show and finale there is no formal bottom two and three "ceremony" like in the other shows leading up to it. I believe the producers of the show have commented that making it to the top 3 without an appearance in the bottom does, in fact, count. I'll look for the transcript of that interview so there can be a referrence before I revert back to six contestants. ^ making it to the top 3 without an appearance in the bottom does, in fact, count. ? Count for what? Melinda was voted off... that's even worse than being in the bottom 2! Jordin loves cows.

It's like saying whoever made it to 12th place was never in the bottom, except for elimination day!

The semantics don't really matter here. You cannot be eliminated and not be in the bottom 2 or 3. At some point, logic has to come into the equation. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 09:02, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree.. they got voted off.. HOWEVER, they were never announced to be in the bottom 3 before they made it to the FINAL 3! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.90.58 (talk) 01:01, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Label

Please stop adding her record label if you are not sure...when we have appropriate sources, then we can add it...thanks all! Jgcarter 14:29, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Genre

I'd argue that she is a pop singer. If people want to include pop and R&B, I would have no objections. But just R&B? Come on folks. :) --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 17:03, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Album Details

Jordin has not announced her release date, or album title, so I removed it from the article. You can't put things on Wikipedia based on rumors. 24.91.189.35 21:07, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Stop putting in fake Album titles, please. I have to check every day and erase it.Gtompkins48 14:49, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I actually just added a comment to the article to that fact. We also have false articles being created with false titles. *sigh* --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 14:52, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Who keeps changing it to "Tommorrow Comes Fast"? An article last week clearly stated that she did not have a name for it. No one knows the name, stop making fake names.24.91.189.35 15:24, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Please

Stop adding links to jordinclub.com. It's one of many many many MANY fan sites out there. We generally don't include fan sites just for that reason. We can't endorse one over another. And besides that, this one has music which might be legal and might not be. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 15:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

What about her single with Chris Brown "No Air"? Isn't that going on the Album? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.65.192.1 (talk) 20:20, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Official Title

Amazon.com has officially stated that Jordin's album will be titled "Mademoiselle", I referenced it on the page. So now we know the title and all the false titles can end. Gtompkins48 23:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Not so fast. I think we need more than just amazon.com. One site can easily be wrong. --Woohookitty^Woohoo! 23:49, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I Who Have Nothing

People keep referring to her rendition of "I (Who Have Nothing)" as a Shirley Bassey/Tom Jones original. The song is originally by Ben E. King; both the former artists made renditions of King's original. Leftnwrite08 (talk) 07:49, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Heritage

Is she a Eurasian? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.189.46 (talk) 03:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC) No her father is African-American and her mother is White(American).

why isn't her race written on here for it should look at other peoples wikipedia pages and they have there Heritage on why can't we have it written down on here for.82.22.206.205 (talk) 22:09, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Weidman is a German surname so she's of German descent also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.203.151.118 (talk) 05:33, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

You need to find a reliable source (WP:RS) if you want to add this to the article. Guessing based on last name isn't acceptable (see WP:V and WP:NOR). All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:35, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

National Anthem

Don't see anything yet about her performing the National Anthem prior to yesterday's game. I'd add that; but I'm not sure where to put it. WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 14:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Weight Controversy

Wow, the fattie-haters can't keep their little fingers out of anything, can they? Yeah, I'm not passing myself off as a particularly person you should care to listen to now, what with bad grammar and all, and a bland assumption that my retarded speaking is going to impress someone, but I think it's out of style now. Here I am reading an article about someone whom I've already forgotten about, and smack in the middle of it is a "controversy" which involves someone I've never heard of calling someone else fat. Until whomever is shown to have heart deseise, diabeties and high cholesterol, let's not pretend like we can tell a person's health just by looking at them, then use that as an excuse for being an fattie hater. I mean, I hate fat people too, but I don't pretend like my hate is saving the children or anything, I just hate them because they're ugly. ...and now that I've stated that whomever this article is about is ugly, someone be sure to quote me in a Wikipedia article somewhere as if anyone cares what I say, or more importantly, as if what I think of this person is somehow interesting to other people who want to learn about this person. ...and while I'm at it, let me say that Jimbo Whales is stupid so that someone can quote me in his article as well, placing it in a section titled "stupid controversy." I mean, his stupidity really is hurting the children an dall. I look at him and see autism. ...and down syndrome. Think of the children! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.209.110.27 (talk) 09:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Weight Controversy: SO WHAT? This paragraph belongs in an article about MeMe Roth, not Jordin Sparks. Just because someone somewhere is quoted in an article as having said something about someone else does not make that quote important enough to include in an encyclopedic article about that someone else. It appears POV. It adds no value whatsoever to Jordin's personal achievements or struggles. If she were an outspoken advocate for (or against) weight related health issues, and MeMe Roth were a somebody in the weight related health circles, then maybe this section would be worthwhile. But since MeMe Roth doesn't even have a wiki page about her or her group, and has no newsworthy hits in a Google news search, she has no relevance in my eyes. Boo to this section.—A2Z (talk) 20:37, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Just because you think MeMe Roth has no relevance, doesn't make it so! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.2.150.3 (talk) 22:45, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Unprotect

I have unprotected this page as it has been protected for over six months. Protection should not be used as a pre-emptive measure. If heavy vandalism begins again, please request for re-protection on my talk page or at WP:RFPP.↔NMajdan•talk 21:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Wrong birth year??

I thought before when I looked at her profile on IMDB it said 1987, maybe I'm wrong. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Punkymonkey987 (talk • contribs) 05:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

i am doing a project with jordin sparks and i am going to ace —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.252.20.177 (talk) 16:07, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Unsourced sales figures

An on-going sock puppet case involves the continual addition of unsourced sales figures. (Often, the number is changed while the source for an old figure is left in place.) Any unsourced sales numbers and/or certifications will be reverted on sight. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 20:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

To repeat: Any unsourced sales numbers and/or certifications will be reverted on sight. If you have a new sales figure, do not add it unless you cite a reliable source. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 20:30, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Christian pop?

Does anyone agree that she is a Christian pop artist? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.161.136.222 (talk) 01:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

If nobody speaks up I'm just adding the Genre without consulting anyone. And just so someone has a reason to speak I'll explane to you that all of her songs I've hears have Christian content in the lyrics so that's why we should add it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.161.136.222 (talk • contribs) 20:45, 16 May 2008

Vocal Cord Injury

I've noticed that the article doens't really mention her vocal cord injury. Does this mean that she had surgery and is doing fine now? That should be mentioned in the article. 24.151.137.19 (talk)` —Preceding comment was added at 19:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

An issue of grammar/writing skills...

My comments pertain exclusively to the article writer's writing skills.

I corrected the one error I noticed in the opening paragraph, removing a redundancy. However, as I read the remainder of the article, it became apparent that the numerous grammatical errors--mostly punctuation--would require a fine-toothed comb approach, something I didn't feel was worth my time. (I am not the one being graded.) But someone needs to address the issue if the article is to be taken seriously. I think the author has done considerable research on the subject. It would be unfortunate if his/her writing is permitted to give the otherwise fine work a black eye.```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by Visionaryscribe (talk • contribs) 18:10, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Main Picture

please change the picture, the one currently there is terrible,she has better pictures It is preferable for pictures of people to face the text. The picture of Jordin @ the Commander in Chief's ball is facing the preferred direction and it is an overall better picture. You can actually see her face and the lighting is better. A new name 2008 (talk) 23:37, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Can the picture be changed back to what it was before [her singing at the Commander in Chiefs Inaugural Ball] .. the current picture is no5 good quality and she isnt facing the text and it looks like it was taken by a camera from a TV screen! User:Willallen93 —Preceding undated comment added 21:30, 31 March 2009 (UTC).

"Battlefield"

I didn't realize that I was talking into a buzzsaw. Yeesh. :) More talking here would be nice rather than through edit summaries. And a better attitude overall (and I mean both sides here). Don't do stuff like this where it makes it sound like AI was the source all along for the second single. It wasn't. It was a blog. Dial down the passion a tad. --User:Woohookitty ^{Diamming fool!} 15:52, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

please change the picture,all the pictures you guys usuallu put of her are not great at all,she has nicer pictures search and put it there —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stonash7 (talk • contribs) 14:02, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Second Album

What is with the lead single. The sources for "Battlefield" are somewhat reliable, but I was recently on Amazon, and altough they are not super reliable, theere was a result called "Madamoiselle" featuring Chris Brown, and it was stated as a single. The only thing is there is "Battlefield"...what is the lead single or is "Madamoiselle"? Is it an actual song, or the second single, or what? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.120.55 (talk) 02:49, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

"Madamoiselle" is a fake song, it was a "code name" for the track No Air. Battlefield is the official single, it's on iTunes she performs it and their has already been a press release about it. And it's been released for weeks now, stay up to date please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Willallen93 (talk • contribs) 21:16, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Her sales numbers

It is very non-standard to try to include all of her single sales as albums sold. Unitanode 18:06, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

No one wrote how many albums she has sales, please look up the word RECORDS. Records include the following: singles, albums, ringtones, etc. The link gave proof she has sold 9 million singles plus 1 million albums, thats 10 million records sold. Stop trolling! Obsessed Battlefield (talk) 19:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

You/Willallen93 seem to be the only one saying that records=albums+singles+ringtones. You have reverted nine different editors who seem to be saying records=albums, that I also agree with. Instead of continually reverting numerous different editors, you need to gain consensus here on the talk page. Aspects (talk) 00:56, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

What can we do about this, in your view, Aspects? Unitanode 01:00, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I'm willallen93? lol Aww MS got upset that he isn't right so he is going around making accusations? Cry me a river! Anyways, the talk page is used to come to a common decision on iffy info. You don't use the talk page to settle on if you should use a fact as a FACT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Obsessed Battlefield (talk • contribs) 01:35, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Consider this an official warning: if you continue to edit in this manner, you're going to end up blocked. The source doesn't support your edit (tracks and ringtones do not equate to album or record sales), and if you continue to edit against both consensus and provable fact, I can't imagine a scenario where you won't end up blocked. Unitanode 13:55, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Records equal sales of singles, albums, ringtones, etc.! The link states she sold over 9 million singles & ringtones & she has sold over 1 million albums. Thats 10 million records, please look words up before you go prancing around on your high horse! If you don't learn to listen I don't see a situation where you won't get banned! Get over yourself please.Obsessed Battlefield (talk) 16:22, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

<---undent

I really shouldn't argue with you about something self-evident, but please read Music recording sales certification and search for the words "ringtones" or "downloads." I'm guessing you won't be around long anyway, but I really wanted to try to let you know why you're wrong here. It's not just that you're edit-warring against consensus, it's also that -- plainly said -- you're flat wrong. Unitanode 16:32, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Wow, you make me laugh. "HEY YOU, UP THEIR! YEAH YOU .. GET OFF YOUR PEDASTOOL!!!"Obsessed Battlefield (talk) 16:36, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I've seen enough. Battlefield, either listen to others and disscuss things without insulting them at every turn, and Unitanode, keep up the good work.Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 16:42, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

First of all who are you, the police of the web? Didn't think so, and I only attack people after they attack me. And I won't listen to people are just BELLIGERENTLY wrong! Look up what the phrase "records" mean, jeese louise! Wikipedia want's to be a legit source .. then they need to start including information that's legit!Obsessed Battlefield (talk) 22:55, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

<---Undent

No one attacked you, OB. You've attacked anyone who tried to reason with you and edit-warred against consensus. People have tried to explain to you that "records" doesn't mean what you think it means, and that you need to stop inserting misleading information in the lede of this article, but you won't listen to us. Unitanode 01:52, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes, please stop Battlefield.Abce2|Aww nuts!Wribbit!(Sign here) 04:49, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Suite Life on Deck guest star

Disney aired a commercial for Jordin appearing on Suite Life next Friday. SOURCE: http://www.celebrity-mania.com/news/view/00010085.html This is what I found on google...there's a bunch more but I just picked one. Cheers. :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.222.143.8 (talk) 05:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Songwriter?

She did co-write freeze and a few other of songs, so I think it should be put on the page.

Yes she is a songwriter. Jordin co-wrote freeze on her first album. Then she co-wrote 4 songs on her second album. She also wrote the song "Human" that Natalie Grant sings. (24.60.90.58 (talk) 18:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC)Dan24.60.90.58 (talk) 18:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC))

Article Clean-Up

i've just did a clean up on the aritcle, it didn't look good before but now it does. I've added two new sections, Charitable work & Other ventures about Jordin's charity work, acting career and clothing line. These information should have not been in the Music Career section as thats only info relating to her albums, performances etc..

ozurbanmusic (talk)

'Human'

I think it should be noted on this article that she wrote the new song 'Human', which was covered by Christian singer Natalie Grant for her new album and is being played on Christian radio. On K-LOVE, I heard Grant say that Sparks is a 'great Christian girl', which could also be noted. Should this be added? Toa Nidhiki05 14:51, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

If you can provide a source prooving it's true, then yes it should be. What year did she write it and what year did Natalie Grant release it? ozurbanmusic (talk) 20:35, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

This year, but I have no idea when she wrote it. I doubt Grant would lie about this, but I'll keep looking. Toa Nidhiki05 13:51, 17 August 2010 (UTC)

Third Studio Album?

She has started woking on her 3rd studio album. She has said that it will have more of an R&B/Urban vibe to it. Its expected to be released sometime in 2011. Does anyone have any idea around what time next year she will release this album? Does anyone have any other info on this album?(24.60.90.58 (talk) 18:20, 22 November 2010 (UTC))

hey everyone who edits jordins page with new stuff. do you notice nothing new is mentioned on this site that she has a single coming soon called "is this love." I am waiting so anxiously to read new stuff here (on wiki) about her and the new album. I have noticed that no one has really updated her page recently. Maybe there are no reliable sources yet... Also I have read elsewhere that she has made a music video for her single "is this love" and a music video for a disney movie called Animal Cats coming out, but the only thing mentioned on this site (wiki) is like two sentences about her album. (24.60.90.58 (talk) 02:50, 20 March 2011 (UTC))

The first single from her 3rd album is called I Am Woman. It is avliable on iTunes. She said she wants to release her album sometime in Fall 2011. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Awesome444a444 (talk • contribs) 17:46, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

NEW MAIN PICTURE

Will you please change Jordin's Main Picture? This one has been up there for a while and I think it would be great to see a new picture up there. (24.60.90.58 (talk) 18:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC))

Now that I think about it, this picture is kind of old. It should be changed. 71.245.178.137 (talk) 22:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Awards/Nomination section... Someone has removed info! (Please Read)

I just noticed that someone removed a number of Jordin's award wins/nominations. From what I noticed, Jordin's 2009 People's Choice Awards win and nomination was removed... and also her 2008 American Music Award Win for Best Adult contemporary Artist... Why are these nominantions and wins removed? Can someone that knows how to fix this please update this?? There might be more missing than what I noticed... But I think it would be great for someone to clean this up and make everything accurate (Someone that knows how) ..I would have already made her a seperate page for her awards/nominations, but I don't have experience doing so... I think that Jordin deserves a seperate page for her awards and nominations, rather than a section on her main page. Thank You —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.90.58 (talk) 02:30, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

I cleaned up a bit of the article and removed the fake awards IP users have been adding. Including the ones where they mentioned Jordin received two nominations at the 2008 BET Awards; Heartbreak Video for "No Air" and CoverGirl & Olay Beautiful Face Award. I did research and those awards don't exist. Also, more fakes awards include the Teen Choice Awards for Breakout Star and Love Song for "No Air".

And no, the American Music Award for Best Adult contemporary Artist is still there. I removed the People's Choice Award nominations because I can't find a reliable source that mentions Jordin was nominated for them. You can add them back once you find a reliable source. And theres no point creating a seperate article for the awards and nominations because she hasn't got much there to have its own article. ozurbanmusic (talk) 03:06, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi Ozurbanmusic...Yeah I understand now and it fixed... (24.60.90.58 (talk) 02:49, 20 March 2011 (UTC))

hey everyone who edits jordins page with new stuff. do you notice nothing new is mentioned on this site that she has a single coming soon called "is this love." I am waiting so anxiously to read new stuff here (on wiki) about her and the new album. I have noticed that no one has really updated her page recently. Maybe there are no reliable sources yet... Also I have read elsewhere that she has made a music video for her single "is this love" and a music video for a disney movie called Animal Cats coming out, but the only thing mentioned on this site (wiki) is like two sentences about her album. I (24.60.90.58 (talk) 02:49, 20 March 2011 (UTC))

Discography format

Since there is a disagreement about the discography format in the article, I am starting a discussion here per WP:BRD. Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lists of works)#Discographies states that "Items may also be divided into sub-sections, e.g. singles, albums, dvds." Not every articles mentions just studio albums, for example Jennifer Lopez. I am going to revert back to the prior version with an edit summary pointing here until such time as there is a consensus for the change. Aspects (talk) 20:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it's needed there. Other articles such as, Rihanna, Mariah Carey, Usher, Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston and Jay-Z have only mentioned studio albums. EPs are not as important as the studio albums. Plus, there is a main article link to the discography article where the EPs are mentioned. ozurbanmusic (talk) 02:49, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

My point in bringing up the Jennifer Lopez article was in response to the edit summary of "What's the point in mentioning EPs in the discography section. There is a discography article that mentions it. Other articles only mention studio albums" that shows that some articles mention more than studio albums. Another point is that the information is presented in two columns and listing the EP takes no additional space. The EP has been there since the discography section was split into its own article over two and a half years ago.

I am disappointed that this was reverted with the edit summary of "since no one would discuss this matter in the talk page" since apparently I am no one and the discussion had been open for less than a week. Because there has not been a consensus to make the change, I am going to add back the EP until there is such a consensus found here. Aspects (talk) 17:10, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

I think studio albums should be here only. And when speaking of Jennifer Lopez, I tried to fix it there, but someone kept reverting it, so I just gave up. ℥^nding·start 01:49, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Hey Aspects, no I didn't mean it like that. I was waiting for a reply from you but since there was none by you or the others, I gave up. Ozurbanmusic (talk) 01:53, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

hey everyone who edits jordins page with new stuff. do you notice nothing new is mentioned on this site that she has a single coming soon called "is this love." I am waiting so anxiously to read new stuff here (on wiki) about her and the new album. I have noticed that no one has really updated her page recently. Maybe there are no reliable sources yet... Also I have read elsewhere that she has made a music video for her single "is this love" and a music video for a disney movie called Animal Cats coming out, but the only thing mentioned on this site (wiki) is like two sentences about her album. I (24.60.90.58 (talk) 02:49, 20 March 2011 (UTC))

Weight Loss

Jordin Sparks just dropped 30 pounds. Should that be mentioned? It is mentioned in the second source. -Awesome444a444 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Awesome444a444 (talk • contribs) 16:27, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source? Ozurbanmusic (talk) 23:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Right here: http://blog.music.aol.com/2011/05/05/jordin-sparks-i-am-woman-interview/ Awesome444a444 (talk) 11:24, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

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Main Picture need to be changed

It is 2015. A lot of things have change on Jordin (weightloss,tattoos). Also she have better photos and photos at events now given the 6 year gap from when the picture stayed the same. Even if you guys did change the picture and use something from like 2011 it would be good. Its time for her main picture to change because she is gearing up for her Third album release. 184.56.203.45 (talk) 05:43, 14 July 2015 (UTC) F.S

If a newer or better picture is uploaded to HERE, then we can link to it and use it in this article. – wbm1058 (talk) 03:06, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Confusing mixup regarding footnote number "[1]"

These comments are based upon the version of the article that was the latest ... "as of" when the initial comments (in this section) were originally added. That is, the "12:03, 18 December 2018" version of the Jordin Sparks article.

the problem: a confusing footnote

The footnote number "[1]" text, which is displayed as: something like

"Jordin Sparks". Glendaleaz.com. 2007-05-11. Retrieved 2015-08-24.

is confusing, because the "ref" tag for that footnote, is contained within a seemingly BOGUS field value, for a "residence" field ... in the "{{Infobox musical artist}}" template [instance].

As of the last time I checked, there IS no "residence" field in that template ["at this time".]

(Maybe that template used to have a "residence" field, but it no longer does? or, maybe ... this article used to have some other kind of template [instance] -- perhaps some subtype of "{{Infobox person}}" [other than "{{Infobox musical artist}}"] e.g. -- in the past?, [and maybe someone changed it?] I don't know...).

What happens

When I tried to find out where that footnote, (footnote number "[1]") was located in the article -- (by clicking on the little "^" character, between (a) the number "1.", for the FIRST entry in the "References" section of the article, and (b) the actual text of the footnote [see the "blockquote" above]) -- it did not work correctly.

(It works fine for most of the other footnotes. It does seem to be messed up for footnote number "[2]" -- [I do not know why ... maybe the reason for that, is something unrelated? or maybe ... "it's complicated" -- ? --]; but, ...for footnote number "[3]", the little "^" character, between (a3) the number "3.", and (b3) the actual text of footnote number "[3]", ... is a valid hyperlink, that seems to work OK, and it points to the URL https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jordin_Sparks&oldid=874357002#cite_ref-3 ... which I guess is the correct internet address for that hyperlink, to point to, in order to do what it is supposed to do ... because I clicked on that little "^" character, -- the one between (a3) and (b3) -- and it took me straight to the place in the article where there was a little superscript "3" in [square] brackets, right after the words "and has sold over two million copies worldwide". That is, it took me to the correct place.)

Is this a BUG?

IMHO if a field name (e.g., "residence") is not valid, for a field in the "{{Infobox musical artist}}" template, then ... shouldn't it be ignoring the entire field "value" for that [BOGUS] field ... even including ignoring the "ref" tag, if the "ref" tag is part of that field "value"?

Maybe not. I could be wrong. Any explanations welcome.

Even if it's NOT a BUG, ... this article should still be fixed

In any event, IMHO, if it is correct that the "{{Infobox musical artist}}" template does not [now] contain a field called "residence", then someone should probably edit out (or at least, comment out) that field ... including the value of that field, which includes the "ref" tag that is currently giving rise to that "orphan" footnote (footnote number "[1]").

Expert advice needed here? (I think so...)

Also, someone (probably someone who knows [waaay] more than I do about the infrastructure for how templates work, and for how "ref" tags within the field values for fields in those template instances are supposed to work ... both for cases where the field name is valid ... and for when it is BOGUS) ... that someone should probably take a look at this, and either

• fix it (with or without first explaining what is wrong, "if applicable"...) or
• explain why it is really OK "as is" (which would be news to me) ...
• or ... explain that it does need to be fixed, but also: why it's lower priority than some urgent stuff that has to get done first
• ... or something like that.

Thanks! --Mike Schwartz (talk) 09:58, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Comments

Mike Schwartz, if you edit the article and then click Show preview, then at the top of the page, just below the "about the singer" hatnote, you will see some warning messages:

Warning: Page using Template:Infobox musical artist with unknown parameter "spouse" (this message is shown only in preview).

Warning: Page using Template:Infobox musical artist with unknown parameter "children" (this message is shown only in preview).

Warning: Page using Template:Infobox musical artist with unknown parameter "nationality" (this message is shown only in preview).

Warning: Page using Template:Infobox musical artist with unknown parameter "residence" (this message is shown only in preview).

The article is also populating the hidden category Category:Pages using Template:Infobox musical artist with unknown parameters, along with just shy of 5 thousand other articles.

The problem is that anyone can edit Wikipedia and there is no requirement that editors read the template documentation before editing the template parameters.

That maintenance category with 5K members in it wasn't even on my radar, until now.

There is also a monthly error report for this template, which is currently counting errors on some 93,000 pages.

Wikipedia relies on volunteers to do this gruntwork, for free. None of the money the Wikimedia Foundation raises this time of year goes directly towards editing content. I'm frustrated by that. If they started filling some editor's coffee cups when they work on these neglected maintenance categories, then we might see more progress in clearing them in a timely manner. – wbm1058 (talk) 03:50, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

Thank you to wbm1058, for responding, and for taking the time to type that substantial comment [above] of "03:50, 1 January 2019 (UTC)".

It sounds like you would agree (or do agree) somewhat with the title of the "[...] this article should still be fixed [...]" sub-section [above], but I guess the "answer", in the next sub-section after that ... the "Expert advice [...]" sub-section above, ... is: the "third bullet" there; that is, ... there does exist a problem [in this article], and it does need to be fixed ... but it might not be the highest priority.

That is no big surprise.

However, "see also" my other comments, in the "more comments" sub-section [below]. --Mike Schwartz (talk) 23:23, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

more comments

[a] When those "warning messages" DO/do NOT appear

For one thing, [a] I tried the experiment "suggested" by User:Wbm1058 in the first comment in the "comments" sub-section above. The "experiment" was to

• edit the article, and then
• click Show preview, and then
• at the top of the page, just below the "about the singer" hatnote, [check whether or not there are any] warning messages ... of a certain kind. (the kind listed above).

That "experiment" did not seem to work. The first time I tried it, there were NO warning messages ... of the kind I was expecting to see ... [just below the "about the singer" hatnote].

Then, I tried changing the spelling of the BOGUS field names (fields that do not really exist, in the {{Infobox musical artist}} template).

THEN, I did see some warning messages ... of the kind that were [apparently] supposed to be seen ... when someone is doing a Show preview, of a page in article space, that contains certain kinds of errors ... umm, well, either "errors" or "things that might not have been intentional [nor advisable] on the part of the editor who inserted them" ... or maybe even (in some cases) (I am not sure about this one...) maybe << field names that might have been OK in the past, but even if they were ... they "no longer" exist in the given template in question, so those field names are kinda ... ["retroactively"] wrong >>.

For example, when I changed [the BOGUS field name] "residence" to "place of residence" ... or even -- [a ONE character change!] -- to "rezidence" ... then I *did* start seeing some warning messages (of the expected kind); ... but: NOT for the other BOGUS field names! ONLY for the BOGUS field names that had been caused by my own editing, during that editing session. (and ... this is a guess, but ... I suspect that it was the editing session, -- NOT the identity of the person doing the editing, -- that was making a difference.)

As another example, when I changed [the BOGUS field name] "spouse" to "spouse if any" then I did see a warning message, of the expected kind. However, again, I saw a warning message ONLY for that one BOGUS field name that had been changed by me -- (and not changed back!) -- during that editing session.

Is it intentional for a given WARNING message to be issued only during the editing session when the BOGUS field name was added? (or "created"?) Maybe; but that was not the impression that I got originally, when reading the suggestion (about [doing] that "experiment") that was suggested by User:Wbm1058 (above ... at "03:50, 1 January 2019 (UTC)".) (Plus, I may have my own opinion about whether or not it "should" be intentional for the "WARNING message issuing" logic to work a certain way, ... but I am skipping over that for now ... it might be outside the scope of this discussion.)

[b] possible BUG, regarding: ... "ignoring" for one purpose, but not for another

For another thing, [b], the intention of the sub-section called "Is_this_a_BUG?" (see: "Talk:Jordin_Sparks#Is_this_a_BUG?") -- especially the part where it says

shouldn't it be ignoring the entire field "value" for that [BOGUS] field ... even including ignoring the "ref" tag, if the "ref" tag is part of that field "value"?

-- may not have been explained clearly enough, originally (in the "Is_this_a_BUG?" sub-section above).

The intention there, was that: ... (IMHO) the "footnote creation" part of the rendering of an article-space web page, probably should be creating a footnote, (for a "ref" tag that appears in [that is, it is part of] a field value of a template instance) ... if and only if the field name that goes with that field value, is a valid field name for that template instance, and hence it is appropriate that the entire field, [including the field 'value'] is not getting ignored. THAT still strikes me as being a BUG (IMHO), in some part of the MediaWiki software, or in whatever software it is, that plays a certain role in how this stuff gets displayed ... and that could be ignoring the entire field value, "including" for purposes of footnotes (or references, or whatever they are called) ... instead of just for purposes of "displaying or NOT displaying" a given entry in the "infobox" for the template (in this case, the "{{Infobox musical artist}}" template).

Thanks for listening. --Mike Schwartz (talk) 23:23, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Mike Schwartz, sorry, I find it a lot of work to parse your comments, and wish you could make your points more concisely, so it's possible I missed a point you made, but...

Note there have been several edits since New Year's Day including one that changed {{Infobox musical artist}} to {{Infobox person}}, and the preview errors went away because "person" supports parameters that "musical artist" doesn't. wbm1058 (talk) 23:49, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for explaining that. AND ...

sorry! ... it seems that paying closer attention would have been a good idea (on my part); ... apparently the fact that it's now {{Infobox person}} ... had escaped my notice. (Oops!)

My other point (which maybe was not explained clearly enough the first time, and I guess it was explained "too verbosely" the second time) ... was:

"IF" the "residence" field was being ignored, for some reason ... and hence the city and state ("Glendale, Arizona") were not being displayed anywhere in the article ... not even in the {{Infobox}} ... "THEN" whatever robot [script] it is, that creates the list of footnotes or "references", in the "references" section, should IMHO also [recognize that the entire "residence" field was being ignored, ... and hence it should] not create a footnote or "reference" for that "ref" tag! ...meaning, that "ref" tag that links to [the web page] "Jordin Sparks" ... at the URL http://www.glendaleaz.com/news/050907_JordinSparks.cfm ... since that "ref" tag is part of a field that is being ignored! (um, it was being ignored.)

Maybe that was explained "too verbosely" this time, too. -- (the 3rd time). If so, then please forgive me.

PS: I do not know for sure, why someone changed {{Infobox musical artist}} to {{Infobox person}}; but, it may have been a case where ... some editor wanted that info [that "residence" city and state info] to appear in the article. (... that is, wanted it to appear in the {{Infobox}} ... which is part of the article.) That editor might have been the person who originally added that "residence" field to the {{Infobox}} ...and might have also been the editor who added the "ref" tag [for the footnote or "source"]).

Thanks for your comments ... and for your patience. --Mike Schwartz (talk) 05:29, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

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Music

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Dancing with the stars

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