Talk:Laysan albatross

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On 26 January 2013, it was proposed that this article be moved. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

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Its my impression that the Laysan Albatross' range only extends north to a bit past the Aleutians...making it not an Arctic bird. I won't remove it from this category just yet, but I think that's probably what should be done. Iancrose 20:47, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It just about gets up to St Matthew's Island, according to the range maps I have. I agree that calling this an Arctic bird is a stretch. I second removing the category. Sabine's Sunbird 20:50, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Just removed it from the Arctic birds list, after consulting some albatross researchers here in the Pac Northwest. If there's any more argument on this point, let me know. Thanks. Iancrose 04:55, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a reason why there's no mention of them being nicknamed "Gooney Birds"? I know not all conservationalists like it, but it seems appropriate to mention that in an encyclopedia. ---B- (talk) 01:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is mentioned in the main albatross article, I guess the only reason it isn't here is that no one has gotten around to it yet. Or maybe because it isn't specific to the Layason, also having been used about the Black-foot. Sabine's Sunbird talk 01:58, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Protection from slaughter

It states that the feather hunters of the 1880-1900's lead to the protection of the species and the northwestern Island chain. What I read says that the protection didn't happen until the 1990's so I find this "dubious" that the two are related other than circumstantial. If the editor or anyone with good facts on this could corroborate or fix it. It seems like a lot of work has been done on this entry and I don't want to just erase that due to what I feel is possible bad info. Thanks speednat (talk) 04:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've provided a reference, which is available through Google books. The destruction of birds on various atolls, including Laysan, Midway, Guam and various Hawaiian islands, led Teddy Roosevelt to establish the first protected area there—many decades before 1990. See here, pages 36-37 and 57. Or do an "in book" search for "feather hunting". MeegsC | Talk 08:36, 23 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: no consensus. Miniapolis 21:03, 21 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Laysan Albatross → Laysan albatross – "Albatross" should be in lower case unless it is used at the beginning of the sentence. We don't say "Galapagos Tortoise," we say "Galapagos tortoise." "Laysan" should remain capitalized since it is a place. - Sweet Nightmares 19:04, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree but unfortunately convention dictates otherwise. See Category:Albatrosses for example. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 03:56, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Practice dictates otherwise, not convention. See WP:NCCAPS. - Sweet Nightmares 02:44, 29 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose: Has anyone bothered to look at the naming conventions? I've never understood why, but for birds (but not mammals or fish), we capitalise each word. Check it out at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (fauna)#Capitalisation and italicisation and Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds#Bird names and article titles. To justify this proposed move, you need to get the ornithology naming convention changed. Skinsmoke (talk) 08:48, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support in principle, but as other editors have said, we don't follow Wikipedia's capitalization conventions for bird species articles. You could try starting another discussion on the topic, but it will end the way it always does—defenders of the status quo will whine that we're having this discussion agian?! and threaten to leave the encyclopedia, opponents will continue arguing, and there will be no broader RFC and thus no consensus. --BDD (talk) 18:26, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies. Looks like the asinine Wikipedia bureaucracy wins again. - Sweet Nightmares 02:42, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support. It's crazy that a well-organised WikiProject can get away with writing rules that are inconsistent with the more general consensus without providing a rationale. Who knows? This could be the day we change it. Andrewa (talk) 11:46, 4 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Despite my opposition to this move request, if anyone proposed changing the naming convention they would certainly get my support! Skinsmoke (talk) 07:33, 6 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment (though perhaps uninformed) : Isn't it only Linnaean names that capitalize every word..? CsDix (talk) 18:32, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. For bird names we use the IOC name, which in this case is Laysan Albatross Bird species names are treated as proper nouns. We do not enforce that in all articles, but it allows clarifying the difference between a descriptive and a species name. Apteva (talk) 16:09, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.