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On 12 May 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from King Misuzulu Zulu to Misuzulu kaZwelithini. The result of the discussion was moved to Misuzulu Zulu.

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Personal life[edit]

https://twitter.com/NewsBotZA/status/1392047135437230088 says :- Official documents shows that New Zulu King, Misuzulu kaZwelithini (47), got married to one Ntokozo Mayisela (36) who lives around Durban & the marriage was registered last week Thursday. The couple has 2 children, aged 9 and 3 whereas the King has 4 kids in total. But I cannot find a better reference. Wizzy…☎ 11:16, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 12 May 2021[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved to Misuzulu Zulu (technical move requested at WP:RMT) (non-admin closure) Lennart97 (talk) 16:06, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

King Misuzulu Zulu → Misuzulu kaZwelithini – The title was moved to "Prince Misuzulu Zulu" by someone and I later shifted it to "King Misuzulu Zulu". But we don't put king or prince before a name in our article titles. Can this please be moved back? We only use regnal or common names. His most commonly used name is Misuzulu Zulu. I don't know if it's his regnal name but many sources have started referring to him King Misuzulu kaZwelithini [1] [2]. This also keeps in tradition with the name of the previous kings like his father. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 06:43, 12 May 2021 (UTC) —Relisting. ~ Aseleste (t, e | c, l) 09:56, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Move to Misuzulu Zulu per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:SOVEREIGN: "Article titles are not normally prefixed with "King", "Queen", "Emperor" or equivalent." Rreagan007 (talk) 16:21, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Misuzulu Zulu was created as a WP:CONTENTFORK of this article. Without prejudice to the outcome of this RM (I will !vote separately) I have redirected that article back to this one for now. - htonl (talk) 13:48, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Misuzulu Zulu. The "King" prefix must not be in the title as explained above. I suggest "Misuzulu Zulu" and not "Misuzulu kaZwelithini", per the precedent of his ancestors whose articles are titled Goodwill Zwelithini and Cyprian Bhekuzulu, not "Goodwill kaBhekuzulu" and "Cyprian kaSolomon". - htonl (talk) 13:53, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Misuzulu Zulu. Agree with Htonl & Rreagan007 above. I vote to move article to Misuzulu Zulu. (I don't know how to do the move though, so someone else would have to do this or explain how it's done) - Editorzaza (talk) 14:11, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Misuzulu Zulu. The guidance provided by WP:SOVEREIGN is very clear in this matter. With all respect and honor to the king, his common name is Misuzulu Zulu. Certainly redirects can be created as mentioned above and as, in fact, recommended in WP:SOVEREIGN. Johnnie Bob (talk) 14:20, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Changing vote to Misuzulu Zulu: After hearing htoni's explanation, I have decided to change my decision. Misuzulu Zulu should be the name. LéKashmiriSocialiste (talk) 06:11, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Misuzulu Zulu per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:SOVEREIGN. Our guidelines are pretty clear on this matter. There's no need to include words such as "king" or "queen" in the articles' main title, with the exception of cases where disambiguation is required. Keivan.f^Talk 23:54, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Misuzulu Zulu per WP:COMMONNAME. Park3r (talk) 12:15, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Heir Presumptive[edit]

In the introduction, it states that King Misuzulu became “heir presumptive” upon the death of his father. Heir presumptive is the term used to describe an heir who can be displaced by the birth of an heir apparent or different heir presumptive with a better claim. For example, if a king has no children, his eldest brother would be the heir presumptive until the king has a child who would then be the heir apparent. Therefore, King Misuzulu did not become heir presumptive when his father died, he became the king who is awaiting coronation. 2A00:23C7:2711:A901:99F8:A61C:48A6:C7D4 (talk) 20:53, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

King Misuzulu[edit]

Misuzulu zwelithini just died at 26 August 2022 197.99.134.240 (talk) 10:51, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]