Talk:Murder of Kitty Genovese

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The Witness[edit]

(I don't know how to edit this I am new to all this but I must speak up: According to the movie 'The Witness' the number 38 was CLEARLY MADE UP by Abe Rosenthal, and everyone else (i.e. other journalists etc.) were too cowardly to call him out. WHY THE HELL IS THIS NOT MENTIONED ON THE DAMN PAGE? THIS JERK RUINED THAT FAMILYS LIFE IN THE NAME OF NEWSPAPER SALES, AND HE GETS AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE WE'RE ALL SCARED OF HIM EVEN THOUGH HE'S DEAD?

HAVE WE LEARNT NOTHING?

I would do it myself but my god this whole internet thing is just too bloody confusing)

- An Old Man Who Values Truth — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.215.106.171 (talk) 21:00, 13 February 2017‎ (UTC)

Please read WP:reliable sources, and you'll learn that we base out articles on information gleaned from reliable sources. The Witness is a non-fiction movie, but it was written by William Genovese, the brother of Kitty Genovese, who can hardly be said to be unbiased -- that makes its value as a source for the article very poor. It would be possible to add something such as "William Genovese, the brother of Kitty Genovese, wrote the screenplay for The Witness, about his sister's murder, and he believes that xxxxx...", but it would be inappropriate to use it as a source for supposed facts about the murder. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:42, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Economy of terms[edit]

In one of the first few paragraphs of this wikipedia article for genovese, the NYTimes first two published writings on the murder are referred to as an article and report. In the next paragraph, the NYtimes labels one of those two writings, "the second story" as flawed. But there is no story mentioned in that paragraph--only an article and a report. In this case, people in articles were telling their story to a newspaper, and then the newspaper calls the story flawed. But does that mean the person's story told in the article or the article itself? I know who the NYTimes was calling flawed (their article) but it took me 60 extra seconds to figure that out, and that's not expediting this article's information very quickly.Spintendo (talk) 23:30, 12 March 2017 (UTC)

"Story", "article" and "report" are synonymous in this context. Using the same noun over and over agin make for boring and monotonous writing. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:51, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Source[edit]

Leaving this source here as it might be useful, I don't have access (or time), to put it in the article myself. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 17:59, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm slammed myself, but hopefully someone will be able to use it before my time frees up. Post here again in a week or so as a reminder, so it pops up on people's watchlists. Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:58, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

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