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NPOV and BLP

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WP:BLP specifies that biographies of living people must be written conservatively and with regard for the subject's privacy. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a tabloid: it is not Wikipedia's job to be sensationalist, or to be the primary vehicle for the spread of titillating claims about people's lives. This article, as a whole, is almost exclusively a collection of charges against Salah with nearly no rebuttal, though there are many sources that rebut these charges. The lead section of the article focuses almost exclusively on a selection of charges against Salah, relegating the fact that he was a three term mayor of a city to the end of the lead and including, as the largest part of the lead, charges of "virulent antisemitism" and other such things. This is neither in keeping with WP:BLP or WP:NPOV. I will be working to rectify these issues in the coming days, but as my first attempt at doing so was reverted I have tagged the article in the meantime. nableezy - 14:28, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello nableezy, and thanks for your work. I've just discovered this page, due to the recent arrest of Raed Saleh in London. The article as I found it states the Raed Saleh was arrested after an appearance in the UK parliament. In fact, it was after an appearance in Leicester, and he didn't attend the UK parliament due to his arrest. I'll make this correction, and add a link to the UK Guardian. You can find an e-mail contact for me on my user page. Clark42 (talk) 21:58, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I also removed the square brackets within the "ref" tags, because the reference link wasn't visible in the references list.Clark42 (talk) 22:18, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This article by Jonathan Cook paints a very different picture of Salah and his background. It certainly raises NPOV concerns about this article. Gatoclass (talk) 03:28, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

::CP is not an RS and that is an editorial. I'm just glad the lead does not have the silly blue link it had for one whole week. I think Cooke is over-represented in the article and we should incorporate more of Salah's own statements and claims rather than figures like Cooke. I'll leave that to other editors. WikifanBe nice 04:22, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless, the one other source I've had time to look at confirms many of the statements made by Cook. This article is currently presenting a very one-sided view of Salah that represents a breach of WP:BLP in my opinion. Gatoclass (talk) 05:59, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The article by Cook was first published in The National (Abu Dhabi) (here). nableezy - 06:03, 7 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV and RS violations in BLP article by two new users

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  • Two new users, Kudosmia and Stayashuman, are collaboratively edit warring to include non neutral statements in this article in favor of Salah, such as "Salah is famous for his tireless and peaceful protests against the Israeli occupation and its continued violations" , based mostly on the massively biased website "www.middleeastmonitor.org.uk" which is an organization affiliated with Salah (Middle East Monitor). In addition, they have removed reliably sourced material. They are ignoring my warnings to stop the disruptive behaviour. Marokwitz (talk) 05:32, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Instead of warning them, how about explaining to them what they are doing wrong and helping them to understand core policy? There's been a lot of discussion on Wiki lately about new users getting unfriendly receptions, block warnings are hardly a means of making someone feel welcome. Gatoclass (talk) 14:23, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Actually I did welcome Kudosmia very nicely on July 12 and explained the policies. In response I got a personal thank you message saying that he/she will improve their editing. Marokwitz (talk) 14:35, 20 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
There is no longer any dispute so it's time to remove the tag. --IRISZOOM (talk) 08:18, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I just removed it. The dispute was resolved nearly immediately for 2,5 years ago. You can't put a tag and then don't remove it when it's time. --IRISZOOM (talk) 06:49, 5 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Introductionary section

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I've changed the order in the main section to put information about Raed Salah before the various allegations etc. The paragraph about the ban in the UK wouldn't seem to belong here either. His primary importance is in Palestine and Israel, not the UK. Suggestions?

I see a claim above that Middle East Monitor is associated with Raed Salah. Does that make it suitable for citation of Raed Salah's own stated opinions? Does anyone know of other sources of information about him? Clark42 (talk) 17:22, 23 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've cited the profile in Middle East Monitor for his year of birth and mayoral election years, pending another source.Clark42 (talk) 00:44, 24 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Twin Towers article in Sawt al-Hurriya

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I have added details of his 5/10/2011 article on the Twin Towers attack and invocation of the Franklin document.[1]Cpsoper (talk) 12:36, 19 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Page renovation

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Not sure if anyone has Raed Salah on their watchlists... But if so, you can see that I have "renovated" the page. In particular I've removed some material that I think is irrelevant. See the diffs [2], [3], [4], [5]. ImTheIP (talk) 16:59, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Benefit provided by sourced content from EI?

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I believe that the other citations already cover the significant content, and that a Gunrel source about a BLP in the area of I/P is not desirable. Does someone object to the removal of it? FortunateSons (talk) 16:19, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]