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Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:Roulettes flying in formation.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on September 15, 2010. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2010-09-15. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :) Thanks! howcheng {chat} 21:54, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Roulettes
The Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) Roulettes aerobatics squadron at the 2008 Australian Grand Prix. The squad was formed in 1970 to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the RAAF and perform about 150 flying displays a year throughout Australia and neighboring countries.Photo: Fir0002

Other RAAF teams

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See http://www.abc.net.au/gnt/history/Transcripts/s1095478.htm for a little of the broader history. The accident which took the lives of the Red Sails is particularly noteworthy, and should be documented somewhere in Wikipedia (despite the understandable reluctance of the RAAF to talk about it). Andrewa (talk) 20:21, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 28 June 2020

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The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Not moved. There is a reasonable argument that the current setup WP:AINT broken. In any case, there is no consensus for the proposed move, or any alternative setup. No such user (talk) 09:51, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]



RoulettesRoulettes (aerobatics) – the clear primary topic for "roulettes" is as the plural of roulette. In a search of Gbooks (which concentrates reliable sources, per WP:AT), the aerobatics team has very few hits. The bare title "roulettes" should be a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT to roulette. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:59, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Station1, your objection is invalid. See WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT:

The fact that an article has a different title is not a factor in determining whether a topic is primary

. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:19, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've already cited policy and explained how this move would be a net detriment to WP, however slight. Perhaps you could explain why you believe it would be a net benefit. Station1 (talk) 07:01, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I can see the only policy that you have cited is PRECISE which tells us that usually "unambiguously define the topical scope of the article, but should be no more precise than that" the current title likely doesn't since there are other topics that need the title to (per (PRIMARYREDIRECT) similar to the fact that there are several articles titled "Libel" (such as the film) but "the article at Defamation is still the primary topic for that title and the film must be disambiguated". In this case the other topics listed on the DAB page likely prevent this one from being primary but there probably isn't a primary topic. Crouch, Swale (talk) 07:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not really, you're comment suggests it shouldn't redirect to the game because indeed that topic isn't usually countable. What you don't appear to have taken into account is topics like the curve and the band which do use the term "Roulettes". The logic is similar to the Paper/Papers and Orange/Oranges examples at PLURALPT in that the curve is a contender for the plural form. That's why there should be no primary topic for this term. Also the "strong support" !vote isn't clear about if the game should be primary of if only this topic isn't primary. Crouch, Swale (talk) 16:28, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Totally fair, but I believe mine may be the only oppose !vote expressing that ambiguity (and if it clears that up, I think the plural with a hatnote provides suitable disambiguation there).--Yaksar (let's chat) 16:33, 27 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.