Talk:Scooby-Doo/Archive 1
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Character backstory
They should do a backstory which covers the relationship between the gang - were Fred & Daphne a couple? How did the 5 of them first meet? I always had this idea that they were college kids on a summer break and solving mysteries for fun. Remember the 70's always featured horror movies involving college kids on a summer break.
Anyways, it would be fun for the original kids who watched the series in the 60's & 70's if they came up with a "after" story too. If the original series was set in the 60's & 70's, what has happened to the gang now? 116.14.209.90 13:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)Kevin (everydayisagift@yahoo.com)116.14.209.90 13:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Inaccuracy in description of 2002 movie
The section about the drug references says that there is steam from Shaggy's cooking inside their van that at first is implied to be marijuana smoke (the soundtrack plays "Pass the Dutchie" which is about marijuana smoking at this point). It is clearly not steam, but smoke, and the reason there is smoke is they are grilling eggplant on a small hibachi. 70.242.200.239 20:19, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
old discussion
Dr. Phibes is hardly based on Dr. Evil. IF anything, both of them are based on the archetypal Bond evil genius, and this should be changed. (Ato) I think it has to do with both.
"Meddling kids" cliche should get a mention. Seems to me that Scooby-Doo is the template for it.24.85.227.237 17:49, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Should who does the voices be mentioned?
- yes, if you know them -- Tarquin
- Casey Kasem was the original voice of Shaggy. Someone else does both Shaggy and Scooby now, though. Kasem also did various incidental voices, such as supporting characters for single episodes. --Frecklefoot
- Kasem was in and out as the voice of Shaggy through the 90s and into the present day, depending on the particular project. Frank Welker, who also does the voice of Freddie, is a well-known voice actor with a particular talent with with animal sounds, and he has voiced Scooby-Doo in most recent projects.12.162.189.80 16:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
- Over the last week, I updated the listings for all the voices for the Scooby incarnations. That seemed logical, since this is a page for the character and all the shows he appeared in, as opposed to just for "Scooby-Doo, Where Are You?" Hope this helps! -- TOM-H-CRGL3 22:36, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
- Kasem was in and out as the voice of Shaggy through the 90s and into the present day, depending on the particular project. Frank Welker, who also does the voice of Freddie, is a well-known voice actor with a particular talent with with animal sounds, and he has voiced Scooby-Doo in most recent projects.12.162.189.80 16:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
- The voices in the article are the ones I got from the IMDB for "Scooby-Doo, Where Are You?"; since that's the focus of the article, I didn't bother with later Scooby incarnations. If we want those, this article should probably be changed to deal with Scooby-Doo in general, or maybe split into separate articles for the character and the show. -- Shammack 15:56 Apr 16, 2003 (UTC)
- Casey Kasem was the original voice of Shaggy. Someone else does both Shaggy and Scooby now, though. Kasem also did various incidental voices, such as supporting characters for single episodes. --Frecklefoot
Moved this comment from the article, since it belongs here anyway:
- somebody care to name others?
Referring to some other cartoon series of Hannah-Barabara of mystery-solving sleuths. --Frecklefoot 13:47 23 May 2003 (UTC)
- I think we got them all...except Ruby-Spears Productions' Fangface. I will add it. --b. Touch 22:39, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- I also added "Speed Buggy" as well. --b. Touch 22:50, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Also, what about Scooby Doo and the 13 Ghosts? There was some boy who was with Shaggy, Daphne, and Scooby, but I dunno his name.
- Flim-flam was the name of the Asian boy on "The 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo" --b. Touch 21:31, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I deleted the following:
- Though the cartoon was rooted in the present, the name had its origins rooted in the past. "Scooby-Doo" was culled from a nonsense line on Frank Sinatra's 1964 recording of Bert Kaempfert's Strangers In The Night. That line, "scooby-dooby-doo," would also go on to become one of the program's indelible catch phrases.
Um, that's DOOBY dooby doo. RickK | Talk 06:48, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- There's a lot of sites on the internet that mention this Frank Sinatra / Scooby Doo connection [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] .... the question is, is this what really happened or is it a myth/rumor? Unfortunately Snopes doesn't have anything about it. Does anyone have a primary source either confirming or denying it? PenguiN42 00:40, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- It's true. CBS exec Fred Silverman was reportedly listening to the song on the plane ride back from the first meeting (where "Who's Scared" was rejected by Silverman's superior's). the info can be found at the official Ruby-Spears website (Ruby and Spears, of course, being the creators of Scooby-Doo): http://www.rubyspears.com/scooby.html B Touch 21:30 18 Sept 2004 (UTC)
Some more respect for Takamoto
I find the recently passed away father of scooby, muttley, astro and many others should be credited in the beginning of the article, deserving the same position Ruby and Spears have... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.220.231.133 (talk) 09:47, 12 April 2007 (UTC).
#1 claim
Removed:
- Scooby-Doo (in both old and new series) is the #1 animated TV show on Cartoon Network, and is the second most popular cartoon with kids on television to Spongebob Squarepants, its major competitor.
It is an opinion. May be presented only with indication who stated this. Mikkalai 05:34, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- I do not know whether this is true or not, but this would not be a matter of opinion. It is either true or not. There is such a thing as Nielsen Ratings.[[User:Nricardo|--Nelson Ricardo >>Talk<<]] 05:31, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)
From: User:65.73.0.137 Subject: Something's gone wrong.
Dear Wikipedians:
How come it seems that a previous edit with the Frank Sinatra connection with Scooby Doo appears on the page and doesn't appear in the editing section? Please explain to me why this sometimes is. Thank you.
- I don't know, perhaps someone removed it. You can look back through the 'page history'. If you think it was removed in error, feel free to put it back. Mark Richards 21:59, 13 May 2004 (UTC)
My favourite ever comment about Scooby-Doo was: "The thing that worries me about the show is why, during a period of unprecedented economic growth, were so many American theme parks left abandoned?" --bodnotbod 21:44, Jul 17, 2004 (UTC) I think Spongebob is more popular.
Page revamp
Would it be a good idea to make short seperate pages for each incarnation of Scooby (since no two are alike)? That way, we could better list and discuss characters that are exclusive to each version, and also discuss the shows that were packaged with Scooby-Doo as well (e.g.: Scooby-Doo and Dynomutt in 1976). --b. Touch 22:50, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- I started working on all of the information for each individual Scooby show. It seems to read better as one long article instead of breakout articles; breakouts could be done for an episode list and for the package series The Scooby-Doo/Dynomutt Hour, and Scooby's All-Star Laff-a-Lympics (also known as Scooby's All Stars). I've gotten to 1979 so far (haven't yet mentioned Scooby-Doo Goes Hollywood or Scooby and Scrappy-Doo yet.) Anyone willing to help out? Please??: I've posted what I've written so far on my personal page as a temporary placeholder--b. Touch 02:38, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Well, I finished the info. I only made breakout pages for the "package shows" which contained more than just Scooby-Doo cartoons (e.g. Scooby's All-Star Laff-a-Lympics. If someone wanted to make breakout pages for the direct-to-video movies, they could do so. --b. Touch 20:34, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
It is true, he had a guitar in the cartoon-series sometimes performing with a band in one eposide. Why did you remove this link? 18 Sep 2004 (CST)
- Scooby's gutiar playing in that series is only a minor gag as far as the series in involved, and only appeared in a few episodes. Not even a breakout page dedicated to A Pup Named Scooby-Doo would mention Scooby playing guitar; it isn't essential to the article. --b. Touch 23:28, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I have no idea if "A Pup Named Scooby Doo" cartoon series had rock & roll music in the past, or the music changed in the show away from rock & roll later on to something to "crossover" music?
10 Nov 2004 (CST)
User 10:07 P.M.
- The music in "A Pup Named Scooby Doo" was rock music based on late-50s, early 60s style rock and roll & doo-wop. --b. Touch 16:39, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Do you know any popular soundtracks used in that cartoon series? This show is currently off the air, this time.
- There were no popular songs used in the show; just new, original songs similar to popular old songs. --b. Touch 03:49, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
What's New, Scooby-Doo?
What's New, Scooby-Doo? is not a part of the original series; therefore it should not be listed as such. It technically isn't a spin-off, but a revival/reimagining of the series, and that is how it is currently being listed as in the filmography. --b. Touch 06:22, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC) I think it should be mentioned.
The series guide
I moved the bulk of what I originally added (all the info about the various Scooby series) to Scooby-Doo series guide. I was going to call it "episode guide," but if you want to be the one to be the one to list all 350+ episodes of Scooby-Doo, be my guest. :).
Anyway, I moved the page because the main page was too long. I was getting the "this page is approaching 32K" error message while editing.
--b. Touch 09:21, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Any reason why this page cannot be merged into the main Scooby Doo article? Nothing links to it outside of a user page and this page. --Woohookitty 23:01, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I don't see why not. Nominate it for deletion and ask for a merge with no redirect. see what the general consensus is. --b. Touch 23:39, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Merged material from Adult themes in Scooby-Doo as per the VfD. --Deathphoenix 03:51, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I reverted your edits. There was no consensus, adult themes isn't important to the main article, and it takes up too much space in the main article. Marcus2 15:27, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- And I redid the merge and redirect, as per request on the discussion of whether or not to merge. Even if the article is very long, that information is relevant in discussing Scooby Doo's effect on pop culture, and the section by itself did not merit its own page. Cybertooth85 18:35, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
There are no a adult themes in Scooby Doo.
Scooby Doo as a franchise
I suppose it makes perfect sense to not only have this article refer to the television program, but since it is pretty extensive, to at least discuss the business of the Scooby Doo franchise (after all, it's a HUGE marketing thing.)
If anyone happens to know anything relevant to this aspect, it would make a good addition to the article.
JD 06:59, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC) It is a franchise.
Major clipping
I clipped this entire section out of the article, as it's honestly truly stupid and doesn't really belong in the aricle. I've included it here as it's still a big deletion. I'm no prude or anything, but do we really have to include every sarcastic teenage conjecture? --Yoshi348 03:14, May 16, 2005 (UTC)
Adult themes
There is a long tradition of subtle inclusion of adult themes in children's media, especially cartoons. Here are some conjectured adult themes in the Scooby-Doo television series.
Scooby Gang as "Potheads"
It is often mentioned that there appear to be veiled drug references in the series. The Scooby gang do bear some resemblance to potheads, and the authors of the show have admitted to allowing some degree of ambiguity to develop around this issue, while never explicitly showing any of the gang taking drugs. This can be considered fanon. Scooby is NOT on pot he is a dog,scooby would be dead from all the poisonous pot in the biscuits and plus the police would probably notice he smelt like pot,it has a strong smell,thats what everyone should know plus he drove a airplane for his first time a the knight episode and he seemed aware to me. "Clues" include:
- Shaggy and Scooby always being hungry.
- Their passion for 'Scooby snacks'—could these really be just dog biscuits? (this was referenced in the song "Land Of a Million Drums" by OutKast featuring Killer Mike and Sleepy Brown, featured on the Scooby Doo movie soundtrack)
- The mystery machine being covered in pictures of flowers.
- The gang's inability to solve the obvious cases (excepting Velma).
- An episode of the series Harvey Birdman, Attorney At Law on the Cartoon Network (which now owns the characters) featured Shaggy and Scooby being arrested for "possession" while laughing uncontrollably in a smoke-filled Mystery Machine. However, they were innocent of the charges, and the show made no explicit references to cannabis.
- The paranoia experienced by Shaggy and Scooby, despite the fact that they had both been involved in the foiling of dozens of so-called spirits. Yet in each new episode they experience fear right up to the moment of the unmasking of the villian.
- Shaggy always said "like" to the extreme, e.g. "Zoinks! Like Scoob, let's get outta here!!"
- Scooby and Shaggy were always the ones in the back of the van, although it was suggested that the two were too busy eating.
- Shaggy's ability to "talk" to Scooby. (Of course, all the other characters are also able to talk to Scooby, and his "speech" (he rarely barks) is intelligible to viewers.)
Fun Lovin' Criminals built on this rumor, releasing a song about being "wacked out on Scooby Snacks."
it is impossible to to die from marijuana. even for a dog. 124.254.84.112 (talk) 09:05, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
Sexual relationship between Daphne and Fred
Daphne and Fred almost always pair off to 'look for clues' together at some point in the show. In the Scooby-Doo film, this idea is self parodied. They were defo at it!
This was also parodied in one of Joe Barberra's other cartoon's Johnny Bravo
Velma a lesbian?
Fans have long speculated that the frumpy, no-nonsense and not-very-feminine Velma is a lesbian. The reasons for this suspicion basically boils down to two points:
- Velma is quite butch, both in manner and dress, especially when compared with Daphne.
- She is never shown with a boyfriend (at least not until the motion picture).
It has often been suggested that Velma has a crush on the clueless Daphne. Additionally, Velma has a considerable fan base among real-life lesbians, who see her as one of their own. The idea of Velma as a lesbian is parodied in the 2001 motion picture Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.
Cartoon Network seems to deny this, and offered Velma to be the girlfriend of Johnny Bravo, a hero of another (more recent) show bearing the same name. The offer was well-presented in at least two Cartoon Network's self-made stub animations.
Velma is NOT a lesbian! Please get rid of everything in the article about Velma being referred to as a lesbian, though she's officially NOT! --PJ Pete
If Velma Dimkley was a lesbian how come,she has that computer genius guy,chasing her in the new scooby doo episodes, I suspect that Velma is just shy and conscious around boys or she is just too dedicated to mystery solving that she has no time to think about dating. user wongdai
- I find it hard to believe anyone would see Velma as a lesbian rather than as simply a nerdy female. For example, she always wears a pleated miniskirt, hardly clothing typically associated with lesbianism (though I guess anything is possible, especially in this PC day and age). 207.69.139.133 00:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- There were originally references to Velma having a crush on Daphne in the 2002 movie, but they were edited out to get a PG rating. 70.242.200.239 20:19, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
- Can you produce any evidence of this 'original reference you're talking about? 207.112.31.32 (talk) 22:44, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Character bases
"Fred was based on Dobie, Shaggy on Maynard, Velma on Zelda and Daphne on Thalia. Once you know this, when you look at the first season's shows, it becomes obvious.
Mark Evanier Former SCOOBY-DOO Writer" [7]
- The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis is listed as an inspiration in the "creation and development" section. --FuriousFreddy 18:36, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Gold Key Comics.
Don't forget that Gold Key Comics published a few also...
Michael 02:07, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
And the comic books dropped him? :(
Now listen to me, there are no more brand new Scooby Doo shows on the air in Fall of this year, and in 2006 on television, not radio.
He cannot be compared to Charlie, I will tell you. Charlie is a mixed breed, with the same black nose and long ears, his head shaped like a lightbulb, also a yellow-creamed dog, there are no shows featuring him today also on television.
Bugs Bunny? He did not appear in his cartoons, after all, BB is not a dog, I just want you to know. :-|
Vandalism
Someone has fairly extensively vandalized this article with juvenile insults and rambling nonsense. Anyone want to take a crack at fixing it?
- Done -- believe it or not it takes more effort to vandalize an article than it does to revert it....all it takes to revert a vandalized article is a few mouse-clicks ;) --EmiOfBrie 17:57 CST 11/25/2005
Whatever you like Scooby or not
His cartoons are are being shown these days on television. This is nothing, but mostly haunting mysteries involving Scooby and Shaggy. No, Shaggy is a person, not a dog. All of this began from the start of 1969 to maybe present. maybe shaggy was raised by dogs on the streets and has a special bond with his dog and was never taught to eat human food and his body is used to it. Others being involved with S.D.
Charlie - Cartoon dog character, what does he do? His attempts to sell himself, and he is mostly a tan dog, but he often changed his appearances. But, despite a lot of people said he was not directly involved with Scooby. Perhaps he was sometimes shown in the Scooby cartoons between 1974 and 1979, but they are both talking dogs.
Both characters either have little or no appeal to older people, but this information must be put on the article.
--65.54.155.47 03:10, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Scooby Doo 3?
Is it really coming out? Anybody have a source?
- No, it's not coming out until they at least announce a signed cast, a script, and annouce the start of pre-production. --FuriousFreddy 02:01, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
It's possible but I highly doubt it.
It happened --Hello, I'm a Wikipedian! (talk) 17:27, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Information from Joe Barbera's autobiography
Not that I want to detract at all from the tremendous amount of work that has been put into this article, but I noticed that the autobiography isn't in the list of references, so I thought I'd check my copy.... The book is out of print, but here's the general citation: Barbera, Joe (1994). My Life In 'toons: From Flatbush to Bedrock in Under a Century (First hardcover edition ed.). Turner Publishing, Inc. pp. Pages 170-172. ISBN 1-57036-042-1. {{cite book}}
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has extra text (help)
On the pages listed at the end, Barbera discusses the original Scooby-Doo series. According to Barbera, Silverman originally called the series "House of Mystery", even before "Mysteries Five." There's also some discussion about "working like mad to get some artwork whipped up", the initial CBS rejection, despite the 10:30 AM slot being locked, and discussion on how Don Messick's voice for Scooby made him the centerpiece for the show, and that in turn helped Silverman convince the network to buy the series. If anyone would like specific quotes, or other information, please feel free to contact me - leave a message on my talk page! --JohnDBuell 03:24, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Scooby Dumb
Why isn't Scooby-Dumb mentioned???
- The character is Scooby-Dum, and he's mentioned in the second paragraph. --JohnDBuell 03:21, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- He is also mentioned at the bottom of the page in "Characters and Dildos" --Will James 02:21, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Cartoon Network Special
The name of the special escapes me now, but I can't find any information in the article about a special which Cartoon Network produced and aired the halloween of 2002(I believe) which featured David Cross and Gary Coleman, shouldn't there be some mention on this page? --NeoVampTrunks 17:13, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
- The title is Night of the Living Doo, and it has been added to the article. --FuriousFreddy 22:52, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
POV
I reverted your revert restoring POV. Yes, most of us can agree that it's popular, but it remains POV. Any thoughts? Marcus 13:13, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
Female Dog Character
I may be wrong but I remember a female dog who was around during the Scooby Dum days that was a cousin of Scooby's and had a southern accent. I have seen no mention of her in the article and was wondering if anyone else remembers this. Flagg 29
Her name was Scooby-Dee? Flagg 29
Her name was indeed Scooby-Dee, and she appeared in one 1977 episode of the Scooby-Doo portion of Scooby's All-Star Laff-a-Lympics, "The Chiller Diller Movie Thriller". The character is briefly mentioned at Scooby-Doo (1976-1979 television series). --70.119.147.160 18:31, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Trivia
In the trivia section, a series of facts are told, ALL of which are direct copies from the inside cover of the Scooby Doo box set of seasons 1 and 2. Should this be cited? (I repeat, the trivia is an EXACT copy of the facts)--Will James
- Removed is what it should be, and has been, especially since all of it is already included in the prose. --FuriousFreddy 14:11, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
- Remove it!!! I have the Season 1 DVD, but just remove it. Hello, I'm Scooby-pedian! —Preceding undated comment added 17:29, 2 April 2010 (UTC).
Merge Scooby-Doo series guide back here
It doesn't make sense to create a new article which just reproduces the TV filmography already seen in this article (Scooby-Doo#TV_series). It should be redirected back to this article, unless we're going to start creating new pages for every single subsection in an article. 172.200.78.219 20:21, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
- As no one has contested this proposal I've now merged the series guide back into this one. 172.141.12.63 01:44, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I would like to add my site under Fan Sites
I would like to add my site to the Fan Site section of Scooby-Doo. I'm kind of confused as to how to do this, and am hoping I am doing it correctly. I added the link under fan sites, but it is not displaying. My site is www.scoobyaddicts.com. Panthergr 15:35, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
you need to type it then make it a hyperlink (by right clicking) to the online site. user wongdai 20.00 1 April 2007
Spelling
Is it Scooby-Doo, Scooby-doo, or Scooby Doo? I tend to think the first one is correct, but I'm not sure. I see the unhyphenated version at some of the "unofficial" sites, as well as the IMDB link for Scooby Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed. 207.69.139.133 00:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
- It's officially "Scooby-Doo", with the hyphen. --FuriousFreddy 16:02, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Like, Wow! FA!
Zoinks! Like, good job getting this thing to Featured Article status, dudes! Kntrabssi 02:05, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- groans* Brutannica 06:22, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Country of origin
Country of origin is given (at least on my computer!) as Australia but that is clearly wrong given the detailed history of the show's origins. I don't know how to change this. Hopefully someone else will! Astonspider 02:59, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Somebody had vandalized the article but it was reverted quickly. See [8]. -- Hdt83 Chat 03:11, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
I doubt it.
Thumbs-Up from Carl Sagan?
Although I read the book many years ago now, I believe that this show gets a mention in Carl Sagan's 'A Demon-Haunted World' as being like the best show on tv! Can't remember the exact quote or words, but it was to do with how it was about the only show on tv that explained so called supernatual events with rational scientific explanations. This would be a good bit of trivia to add at the end of the article. ScottRShannon 03:35, 12 April 2007 (UTC) I think he was a good sceintist and it's sad he died.
- OK, I've added a line about Carl Sagan's reaction. It's pretty tangential, but it is also the only positive comment we have for the plot structure.--Pharos 21:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
The hated Scrappy-Doo
The article fails to mention anywhere the level of contempt and hatred generated by Scrappy-Doo. Whether you like him or not, I personally never met anyone who claimed to like him and did not claim to hate him. It's significant and should be mentioned in the article if someone can find a source to cite. Tempshill 04:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- I have to admit, I can't stand Scrappy and I've never met a Scooby-Doo fan with anything but contempt for him. Heck, it's why they made him the villian in the first live-action movie. ---B- 07:05, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Fwiw, i personally like both Scoob' and Scrappy... As long as Scraps is mentioned in a few places in this article, i'd say that's fine. -- Jokes Free4Me 07:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Do you have sources to prove Scrappy is universally hated? Remember, Wikipedia is a neutral provider of information. Eatspie (talk) 21:44, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
- I think critical responses has space for comment on Scrappy lothing, I certain a quick google could turn up plenty of scrappy hate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.249.207 (talk) 00:20, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Do you have sources to prove Scrappy is universally hated? Remember, Wikipedia is a neutral provider of information. Eatspie (talk) 21:44, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Was it always Saturday morning?
Article should mention whether the show was on Saturday morning in its initial run. Tempshill 04:51, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- It was, but when Scooby-Doo, Where are You! and (I think) The New Scooby-Doo Movies --Hello, I'm a Wikipedian! (talk) 17:32, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
FA picture
What the freck? Howcome the picture box area of the FA nod area keeps changing? From the Image on the top of this page to a TV to a outline of Scooby to.....wait, is Scooby a Great dane? --293.xx.xxx.xx 08:26, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Scooby Doo has always been a great dane! I was just coming here to ask about the main page picture, I can't believe we don't actually have a picture of scooby doo to go on the main page mock up of the scooby doo FA?!??! SGGH 08:28, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Why not this one? SGGH 08:29, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Ahh, see here don't like non-fair-use images on the main page, still a daft picture though! SGGH 08:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- So, what else is gonna "replace" the image out in front?--293.xx.xxx.xx 08:44, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Ahh, see here don't like non-fair-use images on the main page, still a daft picture though! SGGH 08:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Looks like nothing. There's an old stuffed scooby doo and my parent's house I probably could have snapped, but I don't think my boss would let me go there now, lol SGGH 08:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- I thought taking pics of Copyrighted stuff was forbidden?--293.xx.xxx.xx 11:11, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Refs
Refs need cleaned up. Formatting is not good and highly inconsistent. Like ref 2, right now it has nothing but "Ruby and Spears". Rlevse 09:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Profanity
Wikipedia should have filter on the editing form for when idiots go on and want to just spam the place up and leave a bunch of unpleasent words for us all to read. What do you people think?
I agree. We need to protect this page at least temporarily. I was about to revert a page for profanity but was beaten to it.
-Domovoi 14:44, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- The featured article on the Main Page always receives heavy vandalism, but a site-wide filter for profanity would not be appropriate because:
- Wikipedia is not censored;
- and there are legitimate uses of profanity in an encyclopedic context, such as quotes or words in other languages that may appear similar to English profanity.
- Also, the Main Page featured article is never protected, so that anyone who wanders by has a chance to edit it, just like the Main Page says they can. Leebo T/C 14:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- [Note: I got TWO Edit Conflicts, and then editing got locked for maintenance.] If only it was that easy. I agree that this page would be better off with protection, as the rapid vandalism and reversions are starting to get so confusing that I'm beginning to worry that we will be able to catch it all. Sadly, the Article of the Day cannot be protected, so we have to wait it out until at least midnight (UTC) before we can even think about protecting or semi-protecting it. --LuigiManiac 14:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well it's semi-protected now, User:Can't sleep, clown will eat me did it.--User:Rock2e Talk - Contribs 18:42, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- I wonder why. According to his contributions, he was reverting vandalism and just happened upon the article. Did he know it was the featured article on the main page? Leebo T/C 18:44, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Do you think somebody should tell him? --LuigiManiac 18:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- I left him a note on his talk page, but I'm not sure if he's on, because he hasn't made an edit since then. Leebo T/C 18:52, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- I also left a request to have it unprotected on WP:RFPP. Leebo T/C 18:58, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Unprotection was granted per WP:NOPRO. Back to reverting. Leebo T/C 20:16, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Do you think somebody should tell him? --LuigiManiac 18:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- I wonder why. According to his contributions, he was reverting vandalism and just happened upon the article. Did he know it was the featured article on the main page? Leebo T/C 18:44, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well it's semi-protected now, User:Can't sleep, clown will eat me did it.--User:Rock2e Talk - Contribs 18:42, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- [Note: I got TWO Edit Conflicts, and then editing got locked for maintenance.] If only it was that easy. I agree that this page would be better off with protection, as the rapid vandalism and reversions are starting to get so confusing that I'm beginning to worry that we will be able to catch it all. Sadly, the Article of the Day cannot be protected, so we have to wait it out until at least midnight (UTC) before we can even think about protecting or semi-protecting it. --LuigiManiac 14:53, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey, good thing this is featured
Good thing this article was featured, because if there's anything people need to know more about, it's Scooby Doo. I thought Torchic, the fire-type Pokemon was a good choice to be featured, but man Scooby Doo has it beat. --Krakko 23:35, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Well, we can't feature U Thant every day. It's healthy to occasionally feature pop culture, music, arts, sports... ---B- 23:45, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- I take it you mean "today's featured article" and not just "featured article class" because any article on any topic has the capability to become featured class eventually. It's what we're striving for. I assume you mean, "why are we displaying a featured article about a cartoon character on the front page?" As for that, the content on the front page, such as "today's featured article", is meant to draw people in. Different things grab different people's attention. Leebo T/C 23:57, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
What happened to the link to the British TV show with the two men discussing whether they should invite the Scooby gang to a get together? It was on this page just a few days ago.--138.16.26.144 06:17, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
I noticed this long list of "villains" has been added in the last few days. Is this appropriate in a FA? This article is already very large, and most of these are very minor characters but they're listed above the regulars like Scooby and Shaggy. (Also most of them are redlinks and it's unlikely that characters like "The Strawberry, Chocolate and Vanilla Phantoms" will ever need or warrant their own articles.) Masaruemoto 02:26, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- It's not, and it's going. You have to watch this article for things like this; it's a favorite of bombs from kids and fanboys. --FuriousFreddy 13:35, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Modern Scooby-Doo adaptations
Many of the modern Scooby-Doo adaptations contain continuity errors, such as the direct-to-video Scooby-Doo films, in which they take place at a later time, though the actual time for the Scooby-Doo and the gang is in Scooby-Doo: Where Are You!, which takes place in the 60s, and that later times, they would actually grow older, when the modern adaptations take place at a later time, still leaving the gang at the age they were. They have been many modern adaptations of stuff, containing continuity errors. --PJ Pete
- Fair enough, though there seems to be something sort of fundamentally wrong about expecting biological continuity in a cartoon about a crime-solving dog. : ---B- 06:49, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- Exactly. It's a cartoon! --FuriousFreddy 22:53, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- I think they class into the reimagining catagory, rather than straight sequel catagory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.249.207 (talk) 00:24, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
- Exactly. It's a cartoon! --FuriousFreddy 22:53, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Article fails FA criterion #3
The article fails FA criterion #3, because Image:Shaggy scooby wnsd2.jpg has no fair use rationale for this article. – Ilse@ 20:20, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
- I removed the image. Please only put back the image if you add a {{Non-free media rationale}}. Thank you. – Ilse@ 11:04, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
Urgent - new image!
The current image seems very suspicious. After searching through the old updates that I've seen, I've come to the conclusion that the old image was deleted and uploaded.
I do not think that image is a real header, yet alone a real picture from Hanna-Barbera, so I think the picture should be changed. Coinboybrian 22:25, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
- It was someone's poor idea of a joke. I restored the original image. --FuriousFreddy 14:10, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Scoubidou?
As someone who, admittedly, isn't a fan of Scooby-Doo, I'm completely unqualified to make a decision about this. As someone who is a fan of Idde Izzard, though, and who has been to American summer camp, I have to wonder: Is there a relationship between the presumably French "scoubidou" and the lovable pup? And if so, should it be mentioned? --George 17:41, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
- No, as I understand the story the name of the dog has nothing to do with "scoubidou" and instead originates from a song lyric. ---B- 02:28, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
Theme Music
Why no mention of the theme music? Was the theme song always the same, or did it change? Who wrote it, who performed it? How long is it? Et cetera. Allixpeeke 21:18, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- Seems a bit trivial for the purposes of this article (any notes about the length of any cartoon theme song is very trivial). Some of the articles on each individual series have notes on the theme songs used. While the theme song did change regularly (probably the reason they're not mentioned here), most of the theme songs were variants of the one written for The New Scooby-Doo Movies. I suppose a mention of that one and the (more famous) Mook/Raleigh theme from Scooby-Doo, Where are You! may warrant some mention here.--FuriousFreddy 23:44, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
Where did the fan sites go?
I had added ScoobyAddicts.com under fan sites a while ago, but now that section has been removed. Why was it removed? Can I add the site under the character pages? Panthergr 14:36, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Addams family episode
Has the addams family episode been released on VHS or DVD?
67.141.208.122 03:20, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
Maybe, VHS, I dunno Hello, I'm a Wikipedian! 17:34, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
Scooby Do name inspiration
I noticed that the Bob Dylan song "If Dogs Run Free" on the 1970 album "New Morning" has some backing vocals that sounds something like "scooby-do-ba-ba". The timing of this album is just right for it to have been either an influence on or influenced by the name change of Scooby do. Any thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.44.1.200 (talk) 11:50, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
This drives me nuts
Zoinks! Like, I have seen this episode/telefilm/Cartoon Network special or whatever it was, where the new Scooby Gang (from "What's New") meet the old Gang (and Fred's neckerchief) and are solving some mystery together in an amusement park - the Freds jumping from a rollercoaster to escape from an alligator, the Scooby-Doos pretending to be animals (well, they are animals, but I mean fake animals) in a merry-go-round to hide from some panther-headed bear-creature... and I can't find a single reference on the internet, about alligators, rollercoasters, merry-go-rounds, panther-headed-bear-creatures, or Scooby Gang doubles. So, anyone knows what's up with this? Or have I eaten too many Scooby-Snacks? --200.121.137.167 (talk) 04:56, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
- I remember seeing this too. But I'm not sure what it was. It might have been some sort of spoof.--Marhawkman (talk) 07:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
its from scooby doo and the cyber chase —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.44.65.8 (talk) 13:43, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Various Scooby-Doo films series, are they together?
In reading the article, I get the impression that the various film series are not exactly together. I have a list of the divisions, so could someone tell me if it is accurate? I really don't know much about the subject, but this is part of the film series lists clean up. - LA @ 20:12, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Hanna-Barbera Superstars 10 films featuring Scooby-Doo
- Scooby-Doo Meets the Boo Brothers (1987)
- Scooby-Doo and the Reluctant Werewolf (1988)
- Scooby-Doo and the Ghoul School (1988)
Other Scooby-Doo films
- Scooby Goes Hollywood (1979)
- Arabian Nights (1994)
Scooby-Doo (Warner Brothers film series)
- Scooby-Doo on Zombie Island (1998)
- Scooby-Doo and the Witch's Ghost (1999)
- Scooby-Doo and the Alien Invaders (2000)
- Scooby-Doo and the Cyber Chase (2001)
What's New, Scooby-Doo? film series
- Scooby-Doo and the Legend of the Vampire (2002)
- Scooby-Doo and the Monster of Mexico (2003)
- Scooby-Doo and the Loch Ness Monster (2004)
- Aloha, Scooby-Doo! (2004)
- Scooby-Doo! in Where's My Mummy? (2005)
- Scooby-Doo! Pirates Ahoy! (2006)
- Chill Out, Scooby-Doo! (2007)
Scooby-Doo live action film series
- Scooby-Doo (2002)
- Scooby-Doo 2: Monsters Unleashed (2004)
- They're not grouped by canon/association with a series; they're grouped by presentation format (TV specials and TV movies, direct to video films, and live action films), which is probably more desirable for an encyclopedia. Any further divisions would be cumbersome (and, considering Scooby Goes Hollywood is not a movie, inaccurate). --FuriousFreddy (talk) 20:05, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry I didn't see your reply earlier, FuriousFreddy. Could you please list the official divisions of those films? - LA @ 13:19, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Messed up character session
The character session has many exclamation marks and words such as 'ALOT'. It seems to be written by a fan and is not like what an encyclopedia shoulv have. Can seomeone fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by GPS94 (talk • contribs) 22:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
Time for semi-protect?
Is it time to semi-protect this or is it sufficiently watchlisted that semi-protection isn't necessary? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 00:01, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
No merge
I'm all against the merge. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 17:38, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
- There won't be a merge. Whoever suggested it obviously isn't aware that this is an article on the Scooby-Doo franchise as a whole,. and that Scooby-Doo, Where are You! is a subset of such (and a sub-article of this one). --FuriousFreddy (talk) 18:48, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
some input
Scooby doo has had many inconsistancies over the years, such as Scooby having a preference for clams then saying "yuck" at them in another episode. Also, please forgive me for posting weird and having a preference/opinion but could the "assumed adult themes" be removed/linked-to/moved?
Poor Grammar Warrants Correction
In the section "The ABC Years", the phrase " and the new Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo format was now comprised of three seven-minute" should be changed to read " and the new Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo format now comprised three seven-minute".
Scooby-Doo! Spooky Games
This is advertised on the DVD, I have the DVD in my own personal collection, as an episode and as far as I know and I have found no source to say so, it has not aired on TV so it is not a TV special and is too short to be a animated telefilm. So posting it under this section to me is misleading when in fact all it was was a bonus episode on Scooby-Doo! Laff-A-Lympics: Spooky Games is inappropriate. It should however (and since I have already done so) be posted in the 2000s series revival section only. And I believe if there are anymore episodes they should only be posted there with source otherwise no source it doesn't exist and needs to be removed. So I am removing and ask that no one post Scooby-Doo! Spooky Games under TV specials and animated telefilms as it is misleading and remember this is an encyclopedia based on accuracy and posting misleading information is not what Wikipedia is about. So please either revert or remove any further postings of this episode under TV specials and animated telefilms so we are not misleading people. ^_^ Swifty*talk 22:00, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
It was aired on Cartoon Network, before the DVD was released, and several times after(thats where I first saw it, but then saw the DVD), I haven't found a source but I will look, I think it should be added, but It isn't an "episode" of something, so it is a special, either of Tv special, or a DVD released special.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:32, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
Was is misleading is not including it anywhere under the "filmography" section, since it was a special, it was definitely not an episode of Laff-a-Lympics, just a bonus feature on the DVD.Caringtype1 (talk) 22:49, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- If you cannot find a source to show that it aired on TV then it is misleading to post it in the "filmography". If it is only a "bonus feature on a DVD", as you called it, it is not the same thing as a "TV special" or a "telefilm." So posting it as that is misleading. ^_^ Swifty*talk 23:32, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
- Also would like to add that the source must be reliable, such would be either Cartoon Network.com, Adultswim.com, and TV Guide.com. Fan sites, blogs, off branched wikis, such as Scoobydoo.wikia.com, and TV.com are not reliable sources. ^_^ Swifty*talk 23:41, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
It was a bonus feature on the DVD, meaning not the main part of the DVD, but it is the same as a special, it has aired on TV(I'm checking the schedules to see it if will air again for a reference), so if we don't include this in the filmography, by the same logic, we have to remove "Night of the Living Doo", and "..The Ghoul School", etc. It belongs in the section.Caringtype1 (talk) 00:06, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- Okay now you are getting a bit ridiculous here and are going off the point. The point is not that, all the ones you just mentioned have aired on TV or are a telefilm. Going off bases is a weak way to try and get your way instead of looking for a source and no it is not the same. If you read the section name it says TV SPECIALS AND TELEFILMS a DVD bonus feature is NOT a TV special is it? NO. And is it long enough to be a telefilm? NO. So if you can pull up a source to show it aired then that is fine but if you cannot then a bonus feature is not a TV special or a telefilm. There is a MAJOR difference between a bonus feature/special feature on a DVD and a special episode or telefilm that airs on TV. A BIG difference. ^_^ Swifty*talk 00:12, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- I know for a fact that the episode has aired; I've seen it myself. We'll have to see if it airs again for reference, but since it has aired on TV (and my Time Warner Cable TV Guide listed it as "Scooby Doo! Spooky Games"), we should include it under TV Specials. Black Yoshi (Yoshi! | Yoshi's Eggs) 01:01, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- Okay well still need a reference for now, I'm not saying you're wrong bud, just need a source. This page is already got a flag on it for non-sourced information. ^_^ Swifty*talk 01:12, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- I wonder, is this a reliable source? It does list the airdate for "Spooky Games" several times... Black Yoshi (Yoshi! | Yoshi's Eggs) 01:19, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- I couldn't tell you if it was or not it looks like a fan site to me but that's my opinion we need to get a wider view on this subject as well as opinions on sources for this particular "episode" or whatever it is cause as of right now they are very slim. ^_^ Swifty*talk 01:24, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- I wonder, is this a reliable source? It does list the airdate for "Spooky Games" several times... Black Yoshi (Yoshi! | Yoshi's Eggs) 01:19, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- Okay well still need a reference for now, I'm not saying you're wrong bud, just need a source. This page is already got a flag on it for non-sourced information. ^_^ Swifty*talk 01:12, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- I know for a fact that the episode has aired; I've seen it myself. We'll have to see if it airs again for reference, but since it has aired on TV (and my Time Warner Cable TV Guide listed it as "Scooby Doo! Spooky Games"), we should include it under TV Specials. Black Yoshi (Yoshi! | Yoshi's Eggs) 01:01, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
This is a fair thought I think and possibly a good idea. How about posting say four sources that state that it aired on TV, even if they are questionably about their reliability cause as it is if more the one usually states it then it's more then likely true. Offbranch Wiki sites do not count in this those are just like Wikipedia. So there's the deal it stays in there for now with a {{cn}} for one month and if it passes and four sources are not found, I will remove it from the TV specials and animated telefilms section and restore the post I put in the 2000s revival series. Sound fair? ^_^ Swifty*talk 01:32, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- Excellent idea. Black Yoshi (Yoshi! | Yoshi's Eggs) 01:52, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
- I'd say that's reliable enough for the point being made. Not everything has to be referenced but it does help. That being said if a better reference comes along then use it, but this seems fine. Four sources by the way is a bit much for something you're already struggling to find. Thanks ツ Jenova20 (email) 08:18, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
- This lists it as a never-before-seen episode, so it looks like we're playing the waiting game after all. Eventually TV guides should list it. Thanks ツ Jenova20 (email) 10:22, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
Catch-phrases?
Should we add a section on catch phrases from the various incarnations of the show? Like Shaggy's "Zoinks!" to the villain of the week claiming "I would have gotten away with it too, if hadn't been for you meddling kids." Nutster (talk) 15:07, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about that one...I think the catchphrases for each character belong on the pages for their respective character (So, "Zoinks!" belongs on Shaggy's page, for example); only if the catchphrase doesn't belong to a certain character, but is muttered regularly on the show would it belong here. I just don't think a list of catchphrases is really necessary here. Black Yoshi (Yoshi! | Yoshi's Eggs) 15:14, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
- Tend to agree. Think that this could turn into a "romantic interests" thing that has snowballed into a trivial rabbithole that has to constantly be watched and cleaned up... Ckruschke (talk) 04:48, 22 August 2012 (UTC)Ckruschke
Micky Dolenz was a voice-over for Scooby Doo
The Wikipedia article about Scooby Doo left out Micky Dolenz' name as a voice-over for the Scooby-Doo Where Are You! Third Season. His name is listed in the end credits. Also the Wikipedia article about Micky Dolenz lists the Scooby Doo cartoon as one of the several cartoons he did voice-overs for.
- Mickey Dolenz played one-off characters in a small handful of Scooby-Doo episodes (his credit in the end credits of the "third season" of Scooby-Doo, Where are You! - read that show's article for why that's in quotes) is probably derived from his role as Alex in the "Mawmba Wamba and the Voodoo Hoodoo" episode of The Scooby-Doo Show). He didn't play a major regular or semi-regular character, so he wouldn't be listed here. He is listed at The Scooby-Doo/Dynomutt Hour page. --FuriousFreddy (talk) 20:46, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Flintstones
The phrase "scooby dooby doo" plays an important role in the Flintstones episode "The Big Move" which predates Scooby-Doo by about half a decade. I don't know if anyone's ever written about this and I would never---heaven forbid---do any original research, so I'm just noting this for future whatever. Thmazing (talk) 01:51, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
SHAKE IT UP
there is an episode of shake it up that have a scooby doo like mystery. they even pull the mask off the villain at the end. the villain ends with the same phrase as in scooby doo. please find out what episode it is for me and add it.(i did not catch the name of the episode). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.212.73.96 (talk) 09:51, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Organinzation
Is there any noted reason why the Lego movie is being counted in the direct to video list? I ask because it clearly has a preface title in front of it, which is exactly the same way they name the DC Lego movies to separate them. As well as the puppet source animation one had it's own preface title in front of it too. I think that is supposed to count it as it's own franchise.
And it you don't count the puppet one here nor do you count the lego ones over on the DC list, why exactly is it counted here?24.35.37.226 (talk) 10:53, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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S.C.O.O.B Retitling
Guys on the release date change article and the warner bros animation page kn our very own wikipedia the film was titled Scooby when i try to update this page it keeps getting removed what am i missing Jstar367 (talk) 18:23, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
On* Jstar367 (talk) 18:23, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Jstar367: You should check the article's edit history to find out why a change you made was reverted. In this case, editor Katniss reverted your edit because it was unsourced. See our reliable sourcing guidelines. Your change was also not a complete sentence, so that's additionally problematic. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:15, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- It was sourced it had the article i am not understanding Jstar367 (talk) 14:03, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Jstar367: It doesn't say anywhere in the article that the film was retitled. You're simply presuming that because they referred to the film as "Scooby" in the article (which is logical as it's also the name of the franchise) that the title was suddenly changed, yet nowhere in the article does it state this. Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 14:40, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- It was sourced it had the article i am not understanding Jstar367 (talk) 14:03, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- After reading this, I can understand why Jstar thinks the film has been retitled. The phrasing is such that I could see assuming that myself. But it's not explicit, so we should probably wait before arriving at a conclusion that film has been retitled. Wikipedia has no deadline. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:35, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry if I wasn't clear in my wording. I agree that we should wait, since it doesn't explicitly state anywhere that the film has been retitled, nor can I find any other articles that refer to the film as simply "Scooby." We don't want to confuse anyone with preconceived assumptions that the movie has suddenly been retitled, so unless anyone has a strong reason to not wait, I'd say it's safer to leave it as is for now until we find a source that explicitly states a retitling or one that is not up for the reader's interpretation. Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 16:48, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- I second katniss but there is an article about warner bros release date changes including godzilla vs kong and Scooby or S.C.O.O.B or whatever you wanna call it on comingsoon.net just scroll down youll find it Jstar367 (talk) 00:08, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Jstar367: Yep, the release date has already been changed to reflect what the article says :) - Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 14:14, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/844461-godzilla-vs-kong-and-more-release-date-changes-from-warner-bros - there is the article about the release date changes and the S.C.O.O.B retitling just scroll down until you see the scooby doo date and youll see its been changed to scooby. Jstar367 (talk) 14:29, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- What are others' opinions on this? Since it doesn't specifically mention a retitling, I still stand by my previous statement that we should wait until we can find something that actually says the movie has been retitled, rather than just simply referring to the movie as "Scooby." Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 17:12, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- Agree. "Crystal Balls" are usually frowned upon in Wikipedia. Ckruschke (talk) 19:33, 10 May 2017 (UTC)Ckruschke
- What are others' opinions on this? Since it doesn't specifically mention a retitling, I still stand by my previous statement that we should wait until we can find something that actually says the movie has been retitled, rather than just simply referring to the movie as "Scooby." Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 17:12, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/844461-godzilla-vs-kong-and-more-release-date-changes-from-warner-bros - there is the article about the release date changes and the S.C.O.O.B retitling just scroll down until you see the scooby doo date and youll see its been changed to scooby. Jstar367 (talk) 14:29, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- Ouch OK fine alright but if it ends up being retitled I'm sayin I told you so Jstar367 (talk) 10:55, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Jstar367: I apologize if either one of us offended you, but this isn't intended to be a game of "I told you so!" There is probably a likely chance the movie will be retitled, but sometimes to have the most accurate information, we have to wait until a source explicitly states "this film will be retitled..." or whatever the case may be. Otherwise, it's essentially up for the reader to interpret, which could cause misconceptions or inaccuracies in the article, especially when/if other changes for the film occur. Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 15:56, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- Jstar367: Nothing said here should be taken personally. I certainly didn't intend my reply to be cutting. Wikipedia editing rules are impersonal. Since you are new, I'm just trying to help you understand what those rules are. My suggestion to wait until it is finalized was first stated above by Cyphoidbomb on 8 May. Ckruschke (talk) 16:59, 11 May 2017 (UTC)Ckruschke
- Ouch OK fine alright but if it ends up being retitled I'm sayin I told you so Jstar367 (talk) 10:55, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Ok ok i get the gist i was just confused ill wait but if something comes up can you please update it Jstar367 (talk) 23:25, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- It's really no issue, as Ckruschke mentioned above Wikipedia's policies are great in some ways, but it does make for a very impersonal conversation when trying to explain it to someone who is new editing Wikipedia. You didn't do anything "wrong" so you shouldn't feel bad about being confused. If anything that explicitly says it's being retitled is found and it hasn't been updated, I'll be sure to update the article. Cheers and may the odds of editing being ever in your favor. :) Katniss ♥ 01:56, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks katniss wlli do in that case you might just wanna call it the untitled scooby doo animated film then Jstar367 (talk) 13:57, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- For now Jstar367 (talk) 13:57, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Jstar367: Thanks for the suggestion, but I think it's best to leave the title as is for now, so people know it's the same project as before. Thank you for suggesting though! Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 14:14, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- Agreed. Ckruschke (talk) 17:07, 12 May 2017 (UTC)Ckruschke
Alright i just thought since it said Scooby i thought it was retitled i really mean to make a whole discussion page dedicated to it. im very sorry for that i was just wanting to fulfill my civic duty to update the page Jstar367 (talk) 18:12, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
Didn't* Jstar367 (talk) 18:13, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- Again @Jstar367:, you did nothing wrong so there's no need to apologize for anything. When I first joined Wikipedia, I didn't have time to edit a lot so it took me quite a while to learn the policies, and I made plenty of mistakes myself. My point being, despite Wikipedia being a great community, it is incredibly confusing to all new editors (including myself when I first joined) to learn all the policies. I understand you're new and that learning Wikipedia policies are intricate and challenging to grasp. So I totally get it. :) Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 19:54, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks katniss then in that case you need to fix the movie lists on warner bros and warner bros animation Jstar367 (talk) 23:55, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- Oh, thanks! I just fixed those pages and linked to this discussion in case anyone else has more input on the matter. Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 01:12, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Guys, please don't go changing sourced content at List of Warner Bros. films. The cited source in that article, Variety Insight, says it's untitled. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:27, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Hmm, that source seems to have given us a concrete answer to our discussion then. It seems the film is now untitled and Jstar367 was right all along. My apologies for the erroneous change, NinjaRobotPirate, somehow my eye just saw the "S.C.O.O.B." in the source and missed the "untitled" part. Just goes to show that even experienced users occasionally make mistakes! :) Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 02:02, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
I was?.....i mean of course i was i saw every news article about it im a movie buff extraordinaire Jstar367 (talk) 14:44, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- Ha. Well, it's very difficult to find reliable information on upcoming films. Variety Insight is one of the few websites I really trust. It's run by Variety, a trade magazine that's more than 100 years old, and it's based on direct input from the studios themselves. A lot of the other stuff on the internet is based on rumors. I've been making very, very slow progress in sourcing these lists of films, and I get a little irritable when I see my work reverted back to internet rumors. I apologize for that. But if you guys have questions, you're welcome to bring them to WT:FILM. We're usually more friendly than this, and there are some people there who are knowledgeable about where to find sources. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 19:18, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Well...i use comingsoon.net which usually is a reliable source thats where i get all of my information from Jstar367 (talk) 22:08, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
- NinjaRobotPirate It's no problem, my own fault for not being more careful when reading the source. For now, I think there's not much further needed with this discussion (as Variety Insight seems to be quite reputable/reliable, and it syncs up with other sources which now refer to the movie as simply 'Scooby' rather than the formerly announced title, S.C.O.O.B.). But I will be sure to bring any questions I have to WT:FILM if needed! Katniss May the odds be ever in your favor ♥ 22:47, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
Alright Will do Jstar367 (talk) 02:16, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
As there is no info so far we need to call it the untitled scooby doo movie for now until a title is chosen Jstar367 (talk) 01:27, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
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TUESDAY WELD WAS THALIA MENNINGER
Some people may not remember but "Thalia Menninger" was played by famous actress Tuesday Weld, in a recurring role on Dobie Gillis for the first season. Her character was similar to Archie Comics' own Veronica Lodge for whom Dobie competed with a character portrayed by Warren Beatty! As Daphne (from Scooby Doo) is based on the Menninger character, I don't think we should overlook Weld's influence on the character, no matter how small or large; or at least provide a link for cross reference purposes, which I admit I do not know how to do. MARK VENTURE (talk) 17:48, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
- @MARK VENTURE: Interesting. Do you have a good reliable source we can use for that info (either a web page or an offline source such as a book or print article)? --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 20:37, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
Apart from actually watching the show (Last on MeTV) and seeing her name in the credits, no. Ditto for Warren Beatty. However, over at the Wiki article about the Scooby Doo character, an article by Mark Evanier "Attention: Jerry Beck" is used as a source, and in it, he links the characters from The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis to those of Scooby Doo, Where Are You? MARK VENTURE (talk) 19:28, 12 September 2017 (UTC)