Talk:Senkaku Islands

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Title of Islands[edit]

It seems to me that there is a bias if the islands are called "Senkaku Islands" in the title instead of something like "Senkaku/Diaoyu Islands" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.242.151.1 (talk) 16:48, 1 April 2015 (UTC) I agree, and thought the same thing, exactly. Especially after reading the content of the page, and the length of time that each had any control, and that Japan was told to give up islands except their main islands, by the allies, after world war two. Then it seems the chinese claim is the correct one. And I came to the talk page to wonder what has been written here, and I see it is so clear that anyone immediately would think the same, when the name of the page supports the japanese claim, yet the content seems to make it clear the chinese claim is the true one. And the japanese one was only based on wrong actions to begin with. So it couldn't be accepted as justice in international law. As for the comment below about naming the islands in english. What? The claims are by china/taiwan, and japan. Where does english come into it at all? Europe and north america, do not rule the world and should not. Imperialism of powers from far away, over other countries is injustice.

Better yet -- since this is an English page why not use the English name? The English language name for the islands is Pinnacle Islands. This is the measure taken for the Liancourt Rocks and avoids getting caught up in naming disputes based in nationalistic claims. It appears that this suggestion has ben debated in the past to no avail. However, a precedent has been set with the Liancourt Rocks and it offers a simple, even elegant, solution to this problem. Why not use Pinnacle Islands? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.74.221.54 (talk) 02:47, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
On both points above please see the previous move discussion, which returned no consensus on changing the title of the article. Pinnacle Islands is a decent idea in some respects, but it's a name that's almost never used in English-speaking media today. —Nizolan (talk) 18:37, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
Even though I speak 2 1/2 languages I looked for Senkaku because I can never remember the Chinese name. It's just a silly superficial thing with me.58.174.193.5 (talk) 06:13, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

China's Views[edit]

Diaoyu Islands, also known as Diaoyutai, Diaoyuyu, fishing mountain, is China's East China Sea Diaoyu Islands Island, the main island, = China's ancient territory since ancient times. It is located at latitude 25 ° 44.6 'north latitude, east longitude 123 ° 28.4', about 358 km from Wenzhou, Zhejiang Province, about 385 km from Fuzhou, Fujian, about 190 km from Keelung city in Taiwan and about 174,000 square kilometers. Diaoyu Island is about 3641 meters long, 1905 meters wide, an area of ​​about 3.91 square kilometers, the highest elevation of about 362 meters, the terrain is relatively flat in the north, southeast side of the steep rock, the east rock reef quite like a minaret, the central mountains run through things. Diaoyu Island rich in camellia, palm, cactus, sea hibiscus and other precious Chinese herbal medicines, habitat with a large number of seabirds, "Bird Island" reputation. In 1972, when the United States withdrew from Ryukyu, the Diaoyu Islands "administrative jurisdiction" mixed Ryukyu "to" Japan, according to the ancient Chinese history records that China has been on the Diaoyu Islands have territorial rights. Therefore, the Diaoyu Islands dispute also arising from the current Diaoyu Islands and its territorial waters belong to the People's Republic of China, but Japan's actual illegal jurisdiction of the island. September 10, 2012, the Chinese government departments on the Diaoyu Islands and affiliated islands to carry out normal monitoring and monitoring. China's maritime law enforcement vessels in the Diaoyu Islands waters insist on cruising law enforcement, fishery law enforcement vessels in the Diaoyu Islands waters of the normal law enforcement cruise and fishing, to maintain the waters of the normal fishery production order. China also through the release of weather and ocean observations and so on, the Diaoyu Islands and its waters around the implementation of management.

Ancient Chinese ancestors in the operation of the ocean and engaged in the practice of marine fisheries, the earliest discovery of the Diaoyu Islands and to be named. In ancient Chinese literature, the Diaoyu Islands, also known as fishing fish, Diaoyutai, fishing mountain. At present, the earliest records of the Diaoyu Islands, Chiyomei and other places of history, is a book in 1403 (Ming Yongle first year) of the "quiet delivery." [3] 1171 years (the Southern Song Dynasty seven years), guarding the general of Fujian Wang Dayou in Penghu to establish a barracks, sent to the suburbs of the island, including Taiwan and its Diaoyu Islands, including the subordinate islands in the military under the jurisdiction of Penghu, administrative Quanzhou, Fujian Jinjiang management The 1372 (Ming Hongwu five years), Ming Taizu sent to Ryukyu, Ryukyu King to the Ming Dynasty tribute. To 1866 (Qing Tongzhi five years) nearly 500 years, the Ming and Qing dynasties court has sent 24 envoys to the Ryukyu Kingdom royalties, Diaoyu Islands is the canonization to the Ryukyu through the way, the Diaoyu Islands records appear in the Chinese envoy Written in the report. [3] Jiajing eleven years (1532), Ming Chen Kan "so that Ryukyu recorded" in the Diaoyu Islands called Diaoyu Island, has been within the waters of our country. [4] 1561 (Ming Jiajing forty years), the Ming Dynasty garrison in the southeast coast of the highest generals Hu Zongxian presided over, Zheng Ruo has compiled the "sea map series," a book, clearly the Diaoyu Islands and other islands into the "coastal mountain sand map" into the Ming Dynasty Of the sea defense range. [3] 1605 years (Ming Wanli thirty-three years) Xu Bida and others painted the "heaven and earth unified coastal defense map" and 1621 (the first day of tomorrow Kai) Mao Yuan-yi drawn the map of "China's coastal defense map" , Will also be the island of the Diaoyu Islands into China within the sea. [3] The Qing Dynasty not only followed the practice of the Ming Dynasty, continue to be the Diaoyu Islands and other islands included in the scope of China's coastal defense, clearly placed in the administrative authority of the local government in Taiwan. Qing Dynasty, "Taiwan Fu Zhi" and Huang Shu Jing prepared by the "Taiwan Sea to Chang recorded" and other official documents detailed records of the Diaoyu Islands jurisdiction. [3] 1708 Ryukyu scholar Cheng Shun in the "Guide to the broad sense," a book will clearly record the Diaoyutai, Huangwei Island, red tail Island, and said the rice meters (Kumi Island) as "Ryukyu southwest on the town of mountain." In 1719, went to the Ryukyu Qing Dynasty canonization to Xu Baoguang in the "Zhongshan Biography" pointed out that the sea route is: by the town of Fujian five tiger door, take the chicken head, the vase, Peng Jiashan, Diaoyutai, Chrysanthemum Island, take the meter mountain, horse teeth island, into the Ryukyu Naha port. In 1762, the Portuguese "sailing needle map", clearly marked the Diaoyu Islands and its affiliated islands belong to Taiwan. [3] In 1786, the Japanese Sendai fan Lin Zhiping production of the "Three Kingdoms", "Ryukyu country map" listed Diaoyu Islands, and indicate the channel to China to Ryukyu. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.234.17.186 (talk) 04:32, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Editorial Suggestion[edit]

Would it be possible in the sovereignty section to add a link to the country of Japan, not just the governing body/country of China and Taiwan? There are very CLEAR links to Wikipedia articles on "The Peoples Republic of China" and "Taiwan" followed abruptly by "Japan" with no hyperlink to the article on Japan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Submarinevet (talkcontribs) 22:54, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Hi Submarinevet, I agree that it seems incongruous to have only two of the countries wikilinked. The issue that we run into is that WP:OVERLINK says that we should only link each once, when it first appears in the article; by this standard, we should remove all 3 links from this section. I am not sure that that is the most helpful to the reader, and would like to gauge editor support for linking all 3 at the "sovereignty section". If there are no responses, I will standardise to either 3 wikilinks or no wikilinks in the next day or so. Hope this helps - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 23:08, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
I have removed the extraneous links per WP:OVERLINK. - Ryk72 'c.s.n.s.' 07:54, 8 June 2015 (UTC)