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Neutrality of "occupied territory" section[edit]

This sentence, "An example of an occupied territory is Palestine after the Nakba of 1948 ..." does not meet Wikipedia's standard of neutrality. The UN does not consider Israeli territory pre-1967 to be an occupation. The use of "nakba" to refer to the 1948 Arab-Israeli war may indicate that the author advocates a partisan narrative. I will edit this sentence to replace this example with a less controversial one. Jprg1966 (talk) 06:30, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Territory (subdivision). Also created redirect to there from Territory (political subdivision). CsDix (talk) 19:30, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


Territory (country subdivision)Territory (political subdivision) – A territory is not necessarily a country subdivision, for example an occupied territory is sometimes a full fledged country that just happens to be occupied at the time (e.g. Japan). Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 21:23, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

  • Support as country is ambiguous and the proposers suggestion is more encompassing. Zarcadia (talk) 07:40, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
  • Suggestion. Since it could be either country or political (or maybe something else), make it "Territory (subdivision)"? 213.246.91.158 (talk) 08:28, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
That would work as well. Zarcadia (talk) 16:45, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
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Proposed merges[edit]

I propose to merge the short Capital territory and Overseas territory articles here, as they are all aspects of the general proposition. bd2412 T 02:23, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Good idea. I suggest you go ahead. Apuldram (talk) 15:29, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Done. I have added a proposal to merge Territory (subdivision) here also. It is another short and long-undeveloped article, and I really can't see any point of distinction between these articles. bd2412 T 15:49, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

Theory of[edit]

I removed the following from the page because it is really a separate topic:

Theory of

Territory was formerly regarded as the natural jurisdiction of a political unit. Over the past three decades this position has been widely revised in social scientific theory. Robert Sack conceptualised human territoriality as a powerful political strategy and theorised political territory as one such instance of this type of strategy.[1] In the field of International Relations, John Ruggie argued that territoriality was the organizing principle for modern international politics and could be contrasted with medieval heteronomous orders.[2] Following Ruggie, a number of works have sought to explain how territory became the dominant principle of European international relations and/or question his broadly Westphalian chronology of the modern territorial order.[3] Stuart Elden's work on the 'Birth of Territory' is the latest example of an attempt to critically interrogate the historical foundations of 'territory' as a distinctly modern idea[4]

However, this is good material that should be preserved somewhere in Wikipedia where it is relevant. bd2412 T 14:36, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

  1. ^ Sack, Robert David. Human territoriality: its theory and history. Vol. 7. CUP Archive, 1986.
  2. ^ Ruggie, John Gerard. "Territoriality and beyond: problematizing modernity in international relations." International organization 47.01 (1993): 139-174.
  3. ^ Spruyt, Hendrik. The sovereign state and its competitors: an analysis of systems change. Princeton University Press, 1996.Teschke, Benno. The myth of 1648: class, geopolitics, and the making of modern international relations. Verso, 2003.Vigneswaran, Darshan. Territory, migration and the evolution of the international system. Palgrave Macmillan, 2013.
  4. ^ Elden, Stuart. The birth of territory. University of Chicago Press, 2013.