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To editor--My non-Jewish colleagues looked up Yom Kippur on wikipedia and asked me about what they read. So I read the Yom Kippur page and was hugely disappointed.
How can the religious themes section--THE MOST important section on the page--only have two sentences? Only already observant and engaged people who are already in the know care about the details of the service and halachic regulations involved. You're only discussing BEHAVIOR and not THEOLOGY and PHILOSOPHY. In my view this page is an embarrassment to our brilliant religion.
Would you please take the time to elaborate on this section--I personally think it should be FIRST--and the details of the service should be fleshed out to explain its very meaningful symbolism and relevance to the modern person. My goodness, any non-Jew (or Jew who doesn't know better) reading this page would think that American Jews are spending the day praying for sacrifices and the Temple back! Wikipedia should be educational, and this page does not educate anyone about this holiday and WHY we observe it. The HOW on the observance is irrelevant and blasphemous if the WHY isn't there. (and "because HaShem said" is just the p'shat, of course).
There are great writings out there about the meaning of Yom Kippur. READ a little and broaden your chagim next year and hopefully that of anyone looking to wikipedia to find out more about it. In the scholarly Jewish world, religious life does extend outside the narrow viewpoint of halachic existence, as beautiful as that world is.
Thanks--from an observant AND THINKING Jew who finds this entire article hopelessly inane. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattshira (talk • contribs) 18 October 2007
Hello, I wanted to thank you so much for the great information about Yom Kippur. I found this page really informative and it answered many of my questions. I wanted to inform you that a piece of the information on this page is incorrect. I am a muslim and I noticed that you have put in information about the corresponding day on the Hijri calendar, I thank you for that but you have linked the wrong day and information. Yom Kippur does not coincide with the month of Muharram and the day of Ashura, rather it is the month of Dhul Hijjah and the day of Arafa which is one of our holiest days of the year. If you could please make this correction I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you very much and may God bless you for your efforts. Have a blessed day. --Vick320 (talk) 16:22, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
@Vick320: Thank you for pointing this out. I'm guessing that in the year this was written, Yom Kippur's Hebrew month (Tishrei) coincided with Muharram, not Dhul Hijjah. I'm not sure everyone who writes on subjects like Yom Kippur is familiar with how the purely lunar Islamic calendar works.
I will make a quick, short-term fix now, but can do no more as I soon leave to prepare for Yom Kippur. After that holiday, I will consider the best longer-term approach. I may omit a reference to the Islamic calendar entirely, not because it's unimportant, but because the Islamic calendar moves aganst the Hebrew calendar, so that as early as next year the connection to Arafa will not be correct. Or I may try some other approach. Watch this space late in the week; I may ask for advice. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:50, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your efforts and timely response. I do think that you are correct about the calander. Many do not understand that each event on the Hijri calendar moves approximately 11 days a year due to its lunar cycle. I admit at this moment I am a little stumped myself as to how to fix it other than to remove it completely. 2601:206:4101:50B0:24A2:579E:774E:9578 (talk) 17:00, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
I did want to thank you and I pray that God willing you will have safe and beneficial holiday. Through the greatness of God millions of Jews and Muslims will be worshipping and fasting on the same day this year while millions more Muslims are making hajj. I hope this serves as a reminder to us of the importance of focusing on our similarities rather than our differences.2601:206:4101:50B0:24A2:579E:774E:9578 (talk) 17:04, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Commences??? Does it mean "starts" or "begins" (I guess). ..???-Brain (talk) 23:34, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
@Debresser: I made a very quick change, marked here on the talk page as short-term, right before Yom Kippur my time. I said I would try to sort this out after Yom Kippur; you might have given me a chance to do that.
In fact, while date corresponded this year to Day of Arafah, I think conceptually the better correspondence is to Day of Ashura. But at that the correspondence is closer to the Sunni interpretation of the day than the Shia one. Especially given that the correspondence is conceptual, but only sometimes temporal, I'm also wondering whether to keep it here at all. But I'd like to hear from the OP, if s/he is around today. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:12, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
L @Steven Sorry, I hadn't noticed that. Not that I agree with making unsure changes to a consensus version, even with the promise of looking into it later. :) Debresser (talk) 16:10, 24 September 2015 (UTC)