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GSVP

would like to know why the wikipedia entry on gsvp.com was deleted. It wasnt an add for the site rather it was just an informative artice on the site. there are a lot of other such wikipedia articles that give information about such things. So instead of deleting the article your should have at least edited or marked for verification, the content of the entry. i hope this act is not a result of your personal feelings towards a certain 'section' of society. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deva2 (talk • contribs) 19:54, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

The Wike Game

Thanks for pointing me to http://www.wikirace.org/ I had no idea this existed! I just thought I had come up with a great idea. But thanks alot :-D I hope I did this correctly, as I am having difficulty working out the kinks... Jaykobsen (talk) 19:11, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Image removal

Thanks for removing my images, sorry there were so many at once and there will be more to come, but I thank you for your co-operation. Raphie (talk) 16:40, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Userify request

Hey can you userify Caleb Clark onto User:Giants27/Caleb Clark? Thanks.--Giants27 ^T/C 17:17, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

 Done J.delanoy^gabs_adds 17:22, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

fast

You're so fast! I went to fix my mistake and it was done. :) -- phoebe / (talk to me) 04:54, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Sceptre

I was wondering, why is he still alowed to edit after all the trouble he's caused? Sure he's made some nice contribs but he abused his priviledges on Wikipedia and did plenty of vandalism. It just shocks me that we'd let someone with a record like his still continue to edit on the site. - Nite Owl II 06:00, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

• I don't know enough about the situation to be able to comment intelligently. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:46, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

• Well, I guess better safe than sorry is always a better option. I'll go check with another admin, I recall AuburnPilot banning him before and I'm sure that knowing what he's done in the aftermath that he will ban him again. - Nite Owl II 20:48, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Question on Sockpuppetry

Should I report a suspected sockpuppet, even if both accounts are blocked?--Iner22 (talk) 16:36, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

• No need unless you think there may be more of them out there. NawlinWiki (talk) 16:45, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Block of User talk: 24.186.165.121

I'm reviewing this block. I think this might have been a mistake; this IP address was blocked on April 15th for 1 week for some sockpuppet edits. He sat out the block, and didn't seem to edit anywhere while the IP was blocked, and as far as I can tell has stuck entirely to the IP since then. He edited the User:Larry Sanger must be heard page, possibly in an inappropriate way but didn't edit war over it, and wasn't abusing multiple accounts anymore. It seems like this is just a second block placed for the same reason as the first block. Any comments? Mangojuice^talk 14:08, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

• See my comment on the IP's talk page -- I'm concerned about the edit summaries. NawlinWiki (talk) 14:24, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Hitler Wikipedia Game Deletion

Sorry but I disagree with your decision to delete the article. References were supplied and more were on their way, and yet the article stated that no sources were supplied. Also "The term 'Hitler' suggests vandalism... suggests? thats not fact though is it? The article was genuine with verifiable sources and informative, obviously the article was not finished. No vandalism had occured and yet the page was speedy deleted? Did anyone bother to check the sources or even to google the page title? I doubt it very much.

--Nialljames (talk) 16:01, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

The Cameron samford article

It's back. I speedied it, but the author removed the speedy. Since you're the involved admin, thought I'd let you know. Ray^Talk 18:55, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

"Here today gone today is the pidgin we pluck". Seriously, I don't think it's an attack. I think it's youthful teenage boasting sutobio. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 19:08, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Floatopia Article

I was wondering if I could obtain a copy of the Floatopia article's source code. I would like to clean it up and republish it. It has been getting a lot of press lately with the Santa Barbara county passing a ban of Alcohol on the Isla Vista beaches to stop it from repeating. Please contact me. Troysteinbauer (talk) 19:01, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

American oath of citizenship

The article American oath of citizenship was recreated after a speedy deletion. Teapotgeorge^Talk 09:59, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

How Come Drag Me To Hell was deleted?

I was hoping to get a movie/story synopses of this movie, yet I find its article has been deleted by you. Please provide reasoning. Was the article unconstructive? I never got a chance to see it, so I will take your word on it whatever the reason. Baaleos (talk) 14:12, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

• I deleted this article in August 2008 when it had very little content. It was recreated in Nov. 2008 and still exists, see Drag Me to Hell. I'm not sure what it is you're complaining about. NawlinWiki (talk) 14:16, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
• I never knew there was an alternative to that article. The Article I found was Drag_Me_To_Hell, which said it had been deleted, it gave no redirect, or suggestion that there was an alternative article to view. The New one has a small 't' in its name, which is why it did not redirect, Mystery Solved. Baaleos (talk) 12:17, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

What is a vazeebo

Hi NawlinWiki! Just stopping by to say that What is a vazeebo shouldn't have been deleted as nonsense. I'm guessing a user like you knows why ;P. But stop by at my talk page if you don't ;) - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 15:22, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

• Um, "Vazeebo's are very small and look similar to birds, yet they have almost, the head of a cat. A Vazeebo can be very violent and capable of doing very much damage to humans if they wanted to.". I guess I should have used g3, obvious hoax/vandalism instead. NawlinWiki (talk) 17:14, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

• Yup, G1 is only for gibberish. I was about to tag it as G3 ;). Although I did do a quick Google search after (due to reference to WikiAnswers) and they do have that page there, but I couldn't figure out how to edit that place (and report it), not sure if you know? - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 17:31, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Looks like gibberish to me. Dlohcierekim 17:58, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Gibberish meaning something along the lines of "gfdgdfhgdfgdfg" rather then "christmas is in the summertime" - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 18:03, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Not according to the dictionary ;) (incoherent or meaning less.) So your second example is actually right on. This fits #2 of Wikipedia:Patent nonsense. Cheers, Dlohcierekim 18:06, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

But not G1, which is what we're discussing (Why? Because G1 explicitly doesn't include vandalism (which includes factual errors (which includes my second example (and the page we're talking about (What is a vazeebo))))) (sorry, love brackets) ;) - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 18:11, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Can't even tell what language this is?

Please be aware that at WP:PNT we have all the tools we need to identify obscure languages. I think the one you just deleted could have been identified by the set of characters alone. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 20:23, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

• Judging from the author's only other contribution, it's Cherokee. Want it back? NawlinWiki (talk) 20:25, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
• Please. If no one is willing to translate it, it can be prodded in two weeks. -- Blanchardb -^{Me•MyEars•MyMouth}- timed 20:27, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
  • I looked at it again, and it appears to be about Andy Payne, a Cherokee runner. I've redirected, and will leave a note asking the author to expand the Andy Payne page in English. NawlinWiki (talk) 20:35, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

Why is the article concerning E3value going to be deleted?

Hi, it appears that my article is an original research, but I really don't see why. I'm just a student, and I was assigned to study e3value in a strategizing context in a term paper, and creating a wikipedia page to present the ontology only. It only describes a language/ontology created by Jaap Gordijn and used by IS managers or IS students in real cases or exercises. I didn't make any judgement about this language and I remained objective in this article. I also gave sources concerning it. So what is the problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kardell (talk • contribs) 22:19, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

FutureRP Article

Hello, I noticed that you have deleted my FutureRP article. Please, could you consider restoring it, as I was planning on updating it. I realise that there weren't very many citations. That was something several people told me to improve and I was going to.

If you are in a particularly spiteful mood, you could you at least send me a copy of the source? It took me a few hours to make that article and I'd hate to see it wasted. Thanks in advance.

--Cyberkilla (talk) 14:09, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

• Now in your userspace at User:Cyberkilla/FutureRP. NawlinWiki (talk) 18:11, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Am I allowed to try again, once I have more citations? --Cyberkilla (talk) 20:50, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

• • Yes. They need to be reliable independent sources, see WP:V. NawlinWiki (talk) 11:42, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Why_create_an_account?

Hi, just curious as to why this page is protected - there appears to be no previous issues and also curious as to why it is still protected even from last August? 99.142.2.135 (talk) 22:56, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

• What page are your referring to? If you are talking about this user's talk page - it is not protected hence your being able to post here. If another please provide a page link.--VS ^talk 23:17, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

I was talking about the page identified in the header: [1] I added the brackets to it so it's linked now.99.142.2.135 (talk) 00:59, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

• • All I did was add a moveprotect to an existing semiprotect that was over 2 years old. That was applied by User:Centrx. NawlinWiki (talk) 02:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

User needs to be blocked again

This user: 12.220.224.1 was blocked a couple of weeks ago for vandalism but only for 36 hours. I just reverted 2 more vandalism edits he performed today. Looking at his history it seems that the only thing he does is vandalize pages so he should be blocked permanently. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.135.66.38 (talk) 01:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

My Hadley Pottery Page Was deleted

I am not trying to advertise, the fact that you stated it was "blatantly" advertising hits a nerve since Louisville Stoneware has a much similar page that has been published. The only source I have to go on is their website. Do I need to get the permission from the current owner? If so, I can most likely do that. What do I need to do so that the page can be published? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bjf3915 (talk • contribs) 21:11, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

RoCoCo Atelier was deleted

I put many primary sources for verification. I'm guessing you may not be English but David Tennant is a huge star in England and his roles as Doctor Who and as Hamlet at the Royal Shakespeare company were very big news. Similarly Marky Ramone the only surviving member of the Ramones. I included a link showing photographs of him at the launch although not a link to the ramones which could be added. What other primary sources should I add? Cheers

designo

I am looking for input on this page please. My goal is to define designo for public knowledge. Please let me know if this is acceptable content. Thank you.

User:Bpb247/Designo —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bpb247 (talk • contribs) 01:22, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Good catch!

Glad to see you clobbered MG before he could do much damage. That guy is an absolute menace and I cannot wait for the abuse filter to be upgraded so that it clobbers him automatically. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 03:02, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks! NawlinWiki (talk) 03:03, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Old page protection

Is there some background about intentionally blank page that requires the page to remain protected? What is your view on lifting it? --HappyCamper 09:17, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

• It was semi'd because of a persistent repeat vandal. I've removed the semi -- let's see what happens. NawlinWiki (talk) 11:14, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Hi

Do you have any idea when and if flagged revisions will be coming in? 137.154.16.31 (talk) 01:26, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

• No, I haven't been involved in that discussion. NawlinWiki (talk) 01:27, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Alecia wills

The author has re-created the page again. Otisjimmy1 (talk) 02:03, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

About the article of MCT Federal Credit Union..

Hi. well, I have seem that you have deleted the post I made. First of all, I want to say that I dont know much of Creating Articles in Wikipedia. I do Minor Edit some stuff I see it is wrong sometimes. I know what you did was right. Well, I can tell you more details of the MCT bank. Also that little info I wrote was a re-written sentence of the MCT site. Ill tell you more info and try to work this out when you talk to me. Thanks. --Vilapupu (talk) 00:45, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

RE: About the article of MCT Federal Credit Union..

Thanks for that info. Well, i actually don't have that info on how to show that it can meets the notability standards of WP:CORP. Well, at least I tried, because I know some info since I use that bank in where I live. Thanks ^_^

--Vilapupu (talk) 05:23, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Jack Mancino

I would like to know why Jack Mancino contemporary abstract art painter page were deleted?!!...thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgeborg (talk • contribs)

The article was deleted for two different reasons: first, because it was completely promotional in nature, and second, because its subject was not asserted to be notable enough for inclusion.  Frank  |  talk  14:05, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Could you please explain further...

I came across a reference to Zabihullah Mujahid today, saw that several articles here already refer to him, supplying several unique references to him, and I was surprised that there wasn't already an article about him. When I clicked on one of those red-links I found there had been an article about him -- which you deleted.

The record shows you deleted the article on Zabihullah Mujahid. Your entry in the deletion log states WP:A7.

Could you please direct my attention to where the possible deletion of this article was discussed? Geo Swan (talk) 19:07, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

The article was deleted six months ago, and at the time it contained exactly the following text: "A Taliban spokesman." along with a single google link. There was no discussion, as it was deleted under WP:CSD#A7, a speedy-deletion criterion which essentially states that there was no assertion of notability for the subject of the article - which is correct. If this person is, in fact, notable, and you have citations to support that, it may be appropriate to recreate the article. However - having wikilinks within Wikipedia is not necessarily sufficient indication of notability.  Frank  |  talk  22:06, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Comment

I went to check the contribution history of your talk page, because I have a recollection we have corresponded before.

I found that you recently deleted all the contributions to your talk page. I see that you have regularly deleted the contents of your talk page. While I can imagine many legitimate reasons for this can I point out to you that this is very inconvenient for your correspondents?

You might consider leaving a warning for your correspondents that you make a practice of deleting your talk page.

I normally prefer those I ask questions to answer on their talk pages. But, I would prefer you to respond on my talk page. Geo Swan (talk) 19:25, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

• My old talk pages aren't deleted, they're archived. See the link at the top of this page. NawlinWiki (talk) 21:34, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Help with vandal/well-intentioned user

Thanks for your speedy deleteion of TRACKIMEI. User mamamobile has been on a bit of a rampage/edit war trying to get this linked from everywhere and is now apparently annoyed (see my talk page to).

I'm not sure how to proceed, so I thought I'd ask for your consideration of the speedy deletion of AAAGSM (which I thought was semi-legit until this) and the warning of mamamobile to stop the edits on Reporting Body Identifier and International Mobile Equipment Identity which are now vandalism (erasing good content, spamlinking, multiple small edits to avoid anyone undoing them). I'm not going to edit-war this. Bwooce (talk) 21:52, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

E6nvikas (talk) 15:33, 17 May 2009 (UTC)This has reference to [Educare India] page Thanks for commenting and suggesting a way forward ! I have done some learning to edit and style the article differently. Is it shaping up well to remove the DELETION tag !!! I would continue to contribute towards WIKI India project now and then to enrich this reliable online public information and knowledge resource platform.[[User:e6nVIKAS| —Preceding undated comment added 15:30, 17 May 2009 (UTC).

Victoria's Secret Lock

A user 167, keeps undoing an edit several times without no source of reference. I was wondering if you could re protect the page, that was the only way it had stopped before. This user has numerous hits against his record for vandalism, so it looks like he's just saying what he wants to say with no evidence or source to back him up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BahianChic (talk • contribs) 16:09, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Charlie the Unicorn

Request for unprotection for Charlie the Unicorn. The video is now the 28th most watched video ever on youtube, and the subject has been featured on Salon.com, youtube Live, Weezer's Music Video for Pork and Beans and other sources. Inclusion in a major band's music video alone probably meets the notability threshold. A single article for the series of videos would suffice. I'd propose an article on Filmcow.com, which owns Charlie the Unicorn, but the video itself is more notable than the production house. - superβεεcat  20:21, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Will do, thanks pal. - superβεεcat  07:49, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

recreation

Hey Wiki,

Last night you deleted 13 Candles--the second time that evening the article was deleted. The first time it was cut cause it was a copy of a MySpage page, and the second time you indicated in your report that it made no assertion of notability. It's recreated again, with different wording, and it makes a slight claim at notability. If you're around, please have a look, and if you think it gets to stay, can you restore (or userfy?) the version you deleted yesterday? (to my user page or simply replace the current version, that's fine too and easier for me.) I had rewritten two or three of the sections already. BTW, I'm not trying to argue that the article should get to stay, far from it; but if it does get to stay, it's going to need a lot of work since it's crap right now. It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it! Thanks in advance, Drmies (talk) 02:29, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, never mind--it's red already! Drmies (talk) 02:29, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Please stop

This is an article for a sports team, just like every other like it. You're violating WP:POV.JaMikePA (talk) 12:06, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Stop deleting this article. I am reporting you for vandalism. Every sports team has a page.JaMikePA (talk) 12:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

• No, every sports team does not have a page. Otherwise, we'd have thousands of articles on amateur 5-a-side soccer teams. Sports teams, like any other organizations, must meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines. As far as I can tell, the North Jersey and Lancaster articles are about teams that haven't played yet, in a league that so far only has two teams. The articles cited no sources except the teams' own websites and blogs. Please see WP:N, WP:ORG, and WP:V. NawlinWiki (talk) 12:40, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

There's one for every PROFESSIONAL team. Give me a chance to prove this team's existence and I will. It's a minor league basketball team, just like the Erie BayHawks or the Reading Railers. It is verified. You won't give me a chance b/c you have an agenda. I will report you for being a vandal, though you are using your admin rights to do it.JaMikePA (talk) 12:46, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

You deleted my article?

I started an article and I put down some information on where there was preivously no information at all. Now I come back to that place because I have more information to add. I'm upset that it was deleted but at the same time mistakes are made and I'm willing to forget the whole thing if you can advise me on how to get the old content back. If this is not possible than I have to start from 0 again as I didn't save this information anywhere else. Th1alb (talk) 20:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Why is not the article encyclopedic?

Hello, I am directly from Techinline and had earlier written a general article about our service based on the suggestion of a number of our customers, as well as the fact that it is widely used on the market today. We are in the same category as Teamviewer, Citrix GoToMeeting, LogMeIn, and a number of other remote access products which have their own Wikipedia pages. I did not use any advertising of our service and wrote a neutral article, as well as indicated other services which can assist users with remote access. I also followed the format of existing articles for services mentioned above, yet still had the article deleted with an explanation that it was created with direct advertising purposes. Please refer to the articles of the products mentioned above to see for yourself that this removal is unfair. I do not believe that it is fair to allow one vendor to share information about their product and deny another vendor the same right. We have included valid 3rd party sources which are used for reference. If I have done something wrong, please help me reformat the article to have it included on the site. Thank you, and I will look forward to your response and your help in tihs matter. Andrey4wiki (talk) 13:51, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

• I've restored the article, but my concerns remain. Also, see WP:COI. I've listed the article for a deletion discussion at WP:AFD. NawlinWiki (talk) 14:50, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
• NawlinWiki, I respect your point of view and your intent to keep Wikipedia free of advertising, as it is not intended to be a promotion site. However, I disagree with you that this is the purpose of putting up an article about our service. We are a well recognized service in the same industry as a number of other tools which have their own articles, and I decided to pursue with a Wiki article based mostly on feedback and suggestions from our customers. I did not use any advertising and have mentioned a number of services which are just like ours. I believe Wikipedia's main role is to incorporate info from various users and act as a helpful site for reference for interested users. You can google "Techinline" and see how many 3rd party references you come up with. In particular, try [2], [3]

We are mentioned alongside LogMeIn in the latter. We have far from only our own citations, as I have included a number of different sources. If you would like, I would be more than happy to redraft the article and cite only 3rd party sources to see what I can come up with. However, if you feel that we have violated the "Conflict of Interest" rule, please refer to the Teamviewer artcile. They hardly have any 3rd party sources, and here you can see [4] who wrote their article and with what purpose. Therefore, I believe it would be more than reasonable for allowing Techinline to remain on Wikipedia and serve as a neutral source of information for its readers and users. Andrey4wiki (talk) 17:21, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Hieratical (band) deletion

WHAT IS WITH THAT NOTABILITY THING?! The band IS notable, as it performed on a number of shows and it's the most notable example of a metalcore band in my city. Everyone is telling me that the article lacks notability but nobody tells me how I can fix me. How about trying to help me for a change, rather than accusing me of god knows what and then deleting my article? So what in the world should I do to make the article notable?! HieraticalWatchman (talk) 12:35, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Notability response

HieraticalWatchman (talk) 12:42, 20 May 2009 (UTC) There is no way for me to prove the notability of the band by providing a link. The only "reliable sources" as you call them are some newspapers and posters in my city, but I don't know where to find them. The only thing I could provide is a video or a picture with the band performing. Would that be enough?

HieraticalWatchman (talk) 12:50, 20 May 2009 (UTC) I quote from WP:BAND: <<Has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician or ensemble itself and reliable.[note 1] This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 2] except for the following: Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising.[note 3] Works comprising merely trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories. An article in a school or university newspaper (or similar) would generally be considered trivial but should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. >>

LOCAL newspapers, that is, newspapers which span an entire town, do not seem to be an exception. As such, I don't consider my argument to be "trivial".

It's eS productions

A company related to quite some articles here on Wikipedia, with 4 departments (3 in the Netherlands, 1 in the US), over 50 employees, and a record label with multiple, international music artists (more than most record labels on Wiki). Just a couple of reasons why this article should be undeleted, but if you want more reasons, let me know.

• If you can cite independent sources showing this (WP:V), feel free to repost with those sources. NawlinWiki (talk) 13:55, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

• • The Netherlands Chamber of Commerce (Kamer van Koophandel) - Company No. 27311767 0000

I guess it can't get more independent, could it? It clearly states that the company is real, and that the main headquarter is in Pijnacker, the Netherlands (as said in the article). You could get all information (and more) through them.

"Selected company Name: It's eS productions Address: Rosa Manuslaan 9 | 2642DP | Pijnacker Website: www.itsesproductions.com KvK-number: 27311767 0000 Headquarter"

PS: Do I have to repost it myself or could you just undelete it? It was quite a big article and I don't have it saved on my computer or so. Please undelete it and I'll add the sources/links right away.

Snakehill (talk) 14:40, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

• • No, that source just proves that the company exists. We need sources (such as news articles) recognizing the company as notable. See WP:V and WP:CORP. NawlinWiki (talk) 15:36, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

• • I'm in a rush at the moment so I just skimmed it really fast, but if I'm right you just want me to point out 'something special' noticed by someone else? Like a costumer's review which verifies that this is the most allround company of the country (just to name an example)? Because in the previous message you asked me to verify what I said (about the departments/employees/record label/artists; read: "If you can cite independent sources showing this...").

Sorry, I think I'm just a bit lost. Also because I don't see how such a company "doesn't pass the test" right away. It's responsible (at least, the talent department is) for YouTube's biggest talent contest of all time, the company has quite some employees like I already noticed, and even more costumers of course, and I could start listing lots of unique qualities, but I don't know what you think is 'notable'.Snakehill (talk) 16:09, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

• • • Okay, I think that I got it. The fact that the company is responsible for YouTube's Biggest Talent Contest of All Time, the YouTalent Contest should already be making the company notable, not? That's pretty much how the bigger YouTube authors got on Wiki as well. The YouTalent Contest Season One was the #1 Most Responded video on YouTube, and Season Two is on its way and they expect it to be at least twice as big as the first season. YouTube can verify it because they featured the contest internationally back then, and it had thousands of entries (every video response in fact was an entry because that used to be the way to enter the contest).Snakehill (talk) 17:54, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Read WP:CORP. 50 employees is a small business, not encyclopedic in scale. The YouTube thing is an unsourced assertion about something most people never heard of (YouTube and talent are not concepts often associated together; and we delete articles about "famous" YouTube stuff that is not notable all the time). --Orange Mike | Talk 17:55, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

• • Hmm.. okay I get it. But there are smaller less notable companies and people on here. For instance, look through all the independent record labels, most of them are way less known, smaller, and in no way as notable as It's eS productions is. I thought It's eS at least would've had as many rights as them to be on Wikipedia. Plus, the YouTalent Contest is better known than most of the articles on here. ;) Snakehill (talk) 18:12, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Block Whowantstobeamillionaire for being a vandal, indefinitely?

Whowantstobeamillionaire (talk) 18:36, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Please advise as to why my page is being deleted, it is an informative page about a college event which occured in 2008, we are not advertising we are providing the data to the public about what was discussed in last years event. We are not allowed to advertise without the offical seals on our flyers and posts. I am new to wiki so please let me know what I need to change. PhilosophyInTheDark (talk) 20:56, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Joan King

Joan King is a worthy of a Wiki listing. She held a leadership role at Brooklyn Law School and was on the cover of the Wall Street Journal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.123.162.2 (talk) 20:59, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Abuse of the abuse filter

"Why so serious?" is not an obscenity. Hahahaha!