User talk:BigEars42

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Moved post

Note: I moved your post at Wikipedia:Image copyright help desk to Wikipedia:Media copyright questions#Image available for non-commercial use from the British Museum where it is more likely to receive a response. -- œ^™ 10:05, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I posted a follow-up answer, but it requires me to do some digging, which i cannot do at the moment. Please send me a reminder if I don't follow up by Wednesday.--SPhilbrickT 13:37, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

The name I was trying to remember is Wittylama. Liam appears to be still active; it may be worth contacting him, explaining the project, and seeing if something can be done.--SPhilbrickT 21:38, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

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Shagarakti-Shuriash

The reason is that Assyriology includes the Akkadian, old Babylonian and neo-Babylonian periods imo. Clearly you are more knowledgeable than me so it's up to you to choose the wikiprojects which might fall within the article's scope.--Rafy talk 01:04, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

I have come to appreciate the German Wikipedia for its excellent coverage of Mesopotamian related articles. You can take a look at their version, Google translate usually does a descent job there if you have difficulties reading German.--Rafy talk 10:37, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

"Economic texts", archives

I replied to your post on my talk page. The wonderful thing of what you are inputting in the 'cuneiform histories', is that you are reading original material, unaltered, and non re-interpreted. As a result of doing Egyptian hieroglyphs, and some cuneiform, it is so.... satisfying living in a world of understanding, and 'seeing', but not with the eyes, with the "mind, heart, and soul". We live in this politically correct world of true Craziness, Overpopulation, Extinction-(Extirpation)... It was all done in the original "riverworld" societies of Ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia, and done in the 3rd and 2nd Millenniums BC... before the really big changes started with the full-blown production of the Iron Age, and the societal evolutions.

It is an adventure to watch all of this. I actually am as fascinated with how Wikipedia is going to be forced to evolve with the changes coming. So many articles (I think (IMHO)) are slanted, biased, and miss the mark. The articles are Old-School, based on all this "referenced" crap.... ("you can't teach what you don't know")). ....for now--(I'll look at some more of your articles, in Time....Right Now I am surviving 110 to 113 Degrees southwest Arizona-SonoranDesert Heat)(30 days so far equal or above 110 Deg))-(I added a N to "then" in the ReDirect discussion above...You do see how to get to the page, I assume?)Mmcannis (talk) 03:42, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

RE: Rabâ-ša-Marduk

Hello, and thank you for your commentary and contributions to Wikipedia. What you posted on my page does make sense, as he did appear to have a very lengthy career, as well as an illustrious one, as described by the source. I would be willing to use the term "lengthy" to describe the physician's career, but I would rather use factual data instead of that word, such as "...x year career". "Illustrious" is a term that I have POV and editorial concerns over; reason being is because the word is not extraordniarily detailed in itself. However, I could simply be overly concerned about the vocabulary, though, because I have received criticism on other pages while trying to edit such pages with WP:EDITORIAL on my mind. So, on a concluding thought, terms like "long" and "illustrious" are not terms that I'd use if writing or improving an article because of said WP:EDITORIAL concerns, but maybe I do overreact to similar terms on articles. Backtable ^{Speak to me}_{concerning my deeds.} 22:37, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

I think those words would be acceptable for this page. Backtable ^{Speak to me}_{concerning my deeds.} 21:32, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Ancient Mesopotamia template

Hi BigEars 42,

First off, I did not remove the templates because you wrote the articles, and second, please note that I acted in good faith. Why, then, did I make these changes? There is not a single reason but rather a number of smaller ones:

• To remove clutter (in general multiple side boxes on 1 page don't look good). You already have Template:Babylonian kings and Template:Assyrian kings, these allow easy access between the different kings, and I understand that navboxes should be used sparingly.
• To make room for the Template:Infobox monarch, which I think is a much more useful use of the topright corner of each of the king-articles than the Anc.Mes. template. Since some of the pages on kings do have the monarch infobox and others don't, it would also be much more consistent to give each king a monarch infobox.
• To prepare for a major revision of Template:Ancient Mesopotamia that I am working on, which, if of course accepted after discussion, will turn the template into a footer navbox (which in general look better than these side-templates, esp. if there are several on a page).
• The main text in each page on each king already gives access to the relevant pages (i.e. Babylonia, Assyria, or whatever country they ruled), and whom they fought etc); whereas the infobox links to a whole number of pages that are in most cases not relevant. For example, a link to Enûma Eliš which is linked in the Anc.Mes. navbox is not really relevant to most of the kings you have described.
• While apparently not an official policy, I do get the impression that most navboxes are actually indeed only included on the pages to which they actually refer.
• In general, the removal of this navbox from these pages is part of my attempt to get some 'top down' organization into Mesopotamia-related pages on WP, whereby I ultimately see Mesopotamia as the main access page from where people can go further and delve into more obscure pages.

I hope this clarifies things a little bit!--Zoeperkoe (talk) 18:46, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

In general, a thousand wrongs don't make a right. I feel that putting these king-pages in [[Category:Kassites]] or something similar would achieve the same thing (i.e. links to relevant pages on Kassites/Assyria) without having the irrelevant links that are also in the Ancient Mesopotamia infobox. However, if you feel so strongly about it, feel free to revert; I am definitely not going to war about this.

PS, just out of curiosity, exactly because of which links in the infobox did you decide to put it in every article you made?--Zoeperkoe (talk) 19:30, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

It looks like I got off a bad start. I would like to apologize for my earlier replies; I might have been a little bit too uncompromising. Just to be sure, the work you are doing is absolutely great, so I agree it would be better to accommodate that. If the best solution turns out to leave the original Anc.Mes. template in there, I will happily revert myself. For the moment however, maybe we can leave it as it is, especially since I need some time to think about a good solution to make these articles more accessible. The least I can do is try to upload the new template I have in mind for Ancient Mesopotamia in my sandbox, and then we can decide whether that still fits these articles, or whether a new template might be better. I'll see if I can do that tomorrow.--Zoeperkoe (talk) 02:40, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Bold proposal to reorganize Template:Ancient Mesopotamia

I have made a proposal to reorganize Template:Ancient Mesopotamia. See here for the discussion; see here for the actual new draft. Your input is appreciated!--Zoeperkoe (talk) 18:45, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

List of kings of Babylon - edits by anon

Have you seen all the changes made today to List of kings of Babylon by 81.106.116.120‎. I don't know enough to be certain it is all vandalism or original research. Worth a check given you seem to have a strong interest in this period. Thanks --Chewings72 (talk) 10:20, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick response. I just wanted to check because the talk page for 81.106.116.120‎ had indicated problems in the past with inappropriate edits. --Chewings72 (talk) 11:19, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Suggestions at Talk:Itti-Marduk-balatu

Hello. I'm not sure if you saw my message on my talk page but I left some suggestions at Talk:Itti-Marduk-balatu for us to work through. With your knowledge of the subject it shouldn't take too long. Hope this helps, France3470 (talk) 18:07, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Moreover/however

You wrote:

I do not understand your edit in Nebuchadnezzar I. The "however" clearly refers to the preceding sentence. Can you explain why it makes no sense?BigEars42 (talk) 01:53, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

• Because "however" implies a contradiction from the previous sentence, which is not what is happening there. Since he's not related, there's no reason that think the name should be retroactively applied. Where's the contradiction? The "moreover" implies that the two ideas build off of one another, as I think is what those sentences are doing? E.g., not only are they unrelated, but also there's no reason to apply the name retroactively. I hope that clears up my edit. I find the "however" confusing because I don't see an implied contradiction between the two sentences. Cheers, Aristophanes68 (talk) 18:17, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Smile!

A smile for you You’ve just received a random act of kindness! 66.87.7.109 (talk) 22:22, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Ninurta-nādin-šumi

Thanks for writing on my talk page. I put expand section on the biography section, because I thought it contained abrupt details of his confrontation with predecessor etc. I am really not aware of the subject, I am reviewing articles as part of the ASE project. Please feel free to remove the template if you don't think there is more biographical information on this subject. Regards Curious81 (talk) 20:59, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Nazi-Maruttash inscription photo

Upside-down block of stone

Hello, from Arizona,USA. I want to extend My Greatest 'Thank You' , for the opportunity, To read, and/ or edit the "numerous", and sometimes "exciting" articles that you have put into Wikipedia.
Regrettably, .... the world has no need for the "existential" and "historical" profoundness of what You are doing. I actually feel 'my personal efforts' in Wikipedia, are equivalent. IN fact there are hundreds, and thousands of Individuals doing things in Wikipedia, which will, eventually change the World, and People, because, as Humans, and as a Race of Humans, we are so "completely", lost,.... that it is hard to imagine we will survive our own human, or personal: "cluelessness"
Our species, and our survival is in jeaporday, though few Know, or Accept it. (I am personally looking at my newly (acquired) book: Roadside Geology of Arizona, (to go with an older: Hiking Arizona's Geology. I've been busy with Mountain ranges, and Valleys, so it is my next step.)
The photo you just put on Nazi-Maruttash was taken with the block UPSIDE-DOWN. It is hard to accept that it was put on dispay at the Louvre, in this format.

Could you contact the Wikicommons people, to rotate the Image?,,[It is a common request on Photos],,,, (I am the creator of the category: Category:Cuneiform on media,[1] (and many of the subcategories))).

Best Regards...(from the HOT-SonoranDesert,USA/(northwest)Mexico....Mmcannis (talk) 16:17, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Erishum I

Nice job on the limmu list. He is as far back as you can get isn't he? You gonna do that all the way down the line? Til Eulenspiegel (talk) 01:53, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

XcentY

Thanks for the correction. I googled it and found Ashur, Bel, Nish, Shu. Not many info about assyrian dictionnary or grammar on the web so I took what I found (some egyptian gods, some arab) I've no knowledge in assyria so you enlighted my search. — Preceding unsigned comment added by XcentY (talk • contribs) 22:13, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Ashur-rim-nisheshu

Hi! I'm the autor of the article about this ruler on polish wikipedia 1. I have done some research and seems that the name of this king should be written Aššur-rêm-nišēšu (Grayson, Reallexikon..., vol. VI, p.126; Grayson, RIMA 1, p. 101; Glassner, Mesopotamian Chronicles, p. 347), not Aššur-rā’im-nišēšu. Note that his name on his cone is inscribed ^mda-šur₃-re-em-ni-še-šu (Grayson, RIMA 1, p.101.). So AG₂ in his name ^mdaš-šur-ÁG-UN.MEŠ-šu means rêm or rēm (stativ form of râmu - to love) not rā'imu (participle). Initially I thought that -rīm- or -rēm- came from rīmum ("wild bull"), because I had found name ^dAššur-ri-im-nišēšu ("Ashur is the wild bull of his people") in rīmum, CAD R (vol. 14), p. 361, but now I know I was wrong :) Best regards from Poland Lamashtu2006 00:44, 13 August 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lamashtu2006 (talk • contribs)

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Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently tried to give a page a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut and paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

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Nebuchadnezzar I

To request a page be moved, see Wikipedia:Moving a page#Before moving a page Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 04:49, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

How long does the request take (already started). Unfortunately another editor is trying to change to tone of the article and make it "Biblical". As it was a carefully positioned neutral article about a Babylonian king who preceded the Biblical age, this is a problem and your reversion of my renaming has prevented my reverting his edit. I suspect an edit war may commence as this "editor" is very determined.BigEars42 (talk) 05:08, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

If the move is "not controversial" you should use {{db-move|page to move from|reason for move}}. Replace "reason for move" with your reason. It goes at the top of the redirect page: Nabu-kudurri-usur I Should be faster. P.S. put comments on the user's talk page, they may not be seen on the user's page. Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 05:26, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

To keep a conversation on one page, add the comment here and put {{tb|User talk:BigEars42}} on the user's talk page. Jim1138 (talk), 14 September 2012 (UTC)

BTW: Just saw your Sept 14th comment. You accidently put it on user:Jim1138. I moved it to my talk page. Users do not get notified of changes to their user page. Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jim1138 (talk • contribs) 06:44, 25 September 2012

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Edits for Ninurta-nadin-shumi

Since you enlightened me about what a "but one" is, the "predecessor to the predecessor", I now know why I could not read the sentence correctly. It took me awhile to realize, the sentence was meant to be correct---- the "but one, Ninurta-nadin-shumi..." looked like a sentence needing a verb ("but" as a conjunction). I guess the 'but one' is a pun for English "butt one" (hah hah). As an American I speak English, too, but obviously not "British English".-(I envy your access to the British Museum)...(Cheers! from HOT, ArizonaUSA, Sonoran Desert (on Colorado River).Mmcannis (talk) 00:37, 5 November 2012 (UTC)

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Land grant kudurru, by Meli-Shipak II

Kudurru in the Louvre, sb22.

I did the Category:Kudurru boundary stones, 1-June-2007, and googled for photo pics of kudurrus. I made the articles-(2-3 day weekend Event), that I could, including a few king names. I see I made 2-articles referring to the same kudurru. Could you rename one (the Move function, that I know you are aware of, that still keeps the Article Revision history). The article that has external links to the most sites is Kudurru of Melishihu, the one that you can move. The 2nd needs to be redirected, (unless a Wikipedia Administrator, thinks a Merge, with 2- Histories, to do what with:...a Redirect, still keeps the history of the Redirected Article)...The redirect is #REDIRET [target to the new article that you have renamed by the "Move"]].

So, I'm suggesting you move Kudurru of Melishihu to a new name, and reWrite the article (it is now a 5-yr old article). It is the Melišipak kudurru-Land grant to Marduk-apal-iddina I-(article to redirect)-(and it should have said Marduk-apla-iddina I-(which I Miss-spelled)....Cheers, from HOT-Arizona,Southwest USA...Mmcannis (talk) 15:09, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

Hello, from Arizona....I see the two articles had two separate write-ups (at the Louvre?). I'm going to move both articles to new names (not ReDirect yet); correct the one name, and modify the second name with the nice, large photo, and description-(K. of Melishihu). Probably move it to "Kudurru of Milishihu (Meli-Shipak II land grant to Marduk-apla-iddina I)". I still don't know what the best article title should be... "Land grant to Marduk-apla iddina I by Meli-Shipak II". I'm gonna go with for now: Land grant to Marduk-apla-iddina I by Meli-Shipak II. You can just reMove the article to a new name, start the reWrite, and do whatever with the other article, probably redirect it.--(from the HotSonoranDesert, ArizonaUSA)--Mmcannis (talk) 22:10, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

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kudurrus in Wikidata

Hi, just letting you know that I have added a few basic info about various kudurrus in Wikidata [2]. Additions will alway be appreciated :). --Superzoulou (talk) 09:08, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

By the way, I do not know much about the topic, but judging by their external link, I am not sure Marduk-zakir-šumi_I_kudurru and Marduk-apal-iddina II kudurru are relevant articles. --Superzoulou (talk) 09:08, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the explanation.

Wikidata is a multilingual knowledge base. Its most immediate purpose is to help Wikipedias in smaller languages, at they will be able to grab the interwikis and the infobox data directly from Wikidata, without the need to maintain all of them. Other uses are potentially numerous, but will depend on what the community puts into it. Having more structured data will almost certainly help importing data from other datbases and detect inconsistenies. It should also make many things more searchable (for example, you should be able to use it to find items about objects found in Mesopotamia that are held in German museums, and also restrict the search to those that have an article in German, but not yet in English). Also, Wikidata items are not real articles, so that it is fine if they are really smallish. I suppose it would be relevant to have an item for all 160 kudurrus. --Superzoulou (talk) 11:30, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

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Erra-imitti

in Erra-imitti, you wrote: "When the omens predicted impending doom for a monarch, it was customary to appoint as a substitute a statue though animate as a scape-goat for a hundred days to deflect the disaster, at the end of which the proxy and his spouse would be ritually slaughtered and the king would resume his throne." Someone soon changed "animate" to "inanimate" - but neither version makes sense to me. A real person was involved here (hence, animate) but how is he a "statue"? Or was appointed by statute" the intended meaning? Are you trying to say that a person was declared a living statue of the king? Rmhermen (talk) 13:09, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

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You are right, I should have said Kramer for the first part and Liverani for the second part of that. Philip Mexico (talk) 15:09, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

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Gutian rulers

Hi BigEars42,

Since you´re editing a lot of articles on Mesopotamian rulers (for example Ibranum), you might want to chip in on this. Editor SomeGuyWhoRandomlyEdits has been mass-creating articles on Gutian rulers as they appear in the Sumerian King List, and has been adding actual regnal years to them, which he probably took from the article Gutian dynasty of Sumer, which also doesn't list a source for the regnal years. I don't think that there are good sources for these regnal years (or the kings' existence for that matter), so maybe we shouldn't add this information to articles. What's your take on this? Best, --Zoeperkoe (talk) 07:14, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for chipping in anyway! I've suggested to remove the dates; they're unsourced anyway. --Zoeperkoe (talk) 11:54, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

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I have returned

Hello Sir. I used to edit your (Amazing) articles for Mesopotamia. And admit I did NOT study any one in depth. But I started by creating the category for kudurrus, and I have been away from the computer for (literally) years. When I edited your articles, it took me weeks and months sometimes ---- to catch up with you in time. Because I was doing my own creating. I think Wikipedia, is just the beginning of WHAT IS HAPPENING. And on earth (and beyond) -- a lot is constantly changing. So I will see what new articles you have come up with. For me, the Epic of Gilgamesh is the greatest existential story--- Though I believe most don't see it that way. It was humans -- figuring out there place in the world (As is still continuing today). I just wanted to say Hello to you. ///// Michael in Yuma, AZ -- the Hot desert of Arizona. User talk:Mmcannis ( I have forgotten how to sign )

Enlil and Anunnaki

Hello! I have no idea if you are still an active editor, since you only made eleven edits last year and have not made any at all this year. I saw your name in a conversation from seven years ago at Talk:Sumerian literature and, looking at your edit history, I see you mainly edit articles about ancient Mesopotamia. I have worked on several articles about ancient Sumerian deities. (I recently brought the article Inanna up to "Good Article" status.) I nominated the articles Enlil and Anunnaki for "Good Article" status back in August and September of 2017 respectively, but they are both still awaiting review. I was wondering if you would be able and willing to review them, since you seem to have knowledge on the subject. --Katolophyromai (talk) 03:22, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

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Agum II

Hi,

I got a message that you reverted my edit. Is there any way to indicate that the brackets are to indicate reconstructed text? I made the edit because I'm on the WIkipedia: Typo Team andt was detectedas missing spaces next to brackets by an automated spellchecker. I'll sumbit your reason, but it sill may still be detected by other spellcheckers. if others intending to make a similar edit see your reason, they won't do it. THAnks.

Ira

Ira Leviton (talk) 20:34, 28 November 2019 (UTC)