User talk:ChrisTheDude/Archive 7

Grenville Hair image

Hi. You flagged up the image of Grenville Hair because of its dodgy licensing at the Bradford City peer review. I expect you're correct, but is there any way of checking? Or is it far simpler just to delete it for FA purposes? I expect I know the answer, but thought I'd ask the question anyway.

Nice one. Thanks very much for your help. I must admit, although I understand copyright law, I'm not entirely au fait with the use of images on WP. That particularly image isn't the most necessary on the article, but it's the only one I can find for that section, and neatly breaks up the text. Peanut4 (talk) 17:06, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

IP block

Regarding this - I know I reported this editor at AIV, but IPs are rarely blocked indefinitely (aside from when there is evidence that it is an open proxy etc.) Greman Knight. 10:45, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Awesome Ribbons

Just had to say I enjoyed seeing some real ribbons on the FA Cup rather than some old Notts County Scarve, Awesome! Tmol42 (talk) 21:24, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Image

Just to say cheers for uploading the image of the only team ever to win the FA Cup and promotion in the same season. :-) It is a great picture. I will get round to tidying up that History article properly one day. --Jameboy (talk) 22:35, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Overton United F.C.

Just to let you know, it's the four clubs who haven't been struck out. I blame confusion over the Wessex/Hampshire League situation... пﮟოьεԻ 57 21:24, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

GKN Sankeys (Wellington) and GKN Sankey

Yes, it appears they are the same club. Thanks for bringing it to my attention - I will merge the articles over the next couple of days. - fchd (talk) 21:28, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

West Midlands (Regional) League

I noticed a peer review open for the article and I wanted to know if you wanted the article to have its GA review now or after the peer review closes. Its all on you, since you nominated the article. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 21:32, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Alright, I'll have that review done in no time. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 15:47, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Article restoration

If you find any others you need restoring it might be quicker to just leave me a note rather than go to DRV. Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 57 08:36, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah, forgot that you were an admin too (even though I actually voted on your RfA)! пﮟოьεԻ 57 08:41, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

User:Kaka12o and Club America

Hi I have placed a user block request here would you mind taking a look, I have had no responce so far. The user has been warned and has ignored the warnings as well as the article talk page. thanks Paul  Bradbury 22:04, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Ronnie Wallwork peer review

ChrisTheDude, I was wondering if you had a few minutes to contribute to the Ronnie Wallwork peer review at Wikipedia:Peer review/Ronnie Wallwork/archive1. I've done quite a bit to improve the article, and Peanut4 has also contributed greatly. I think it has GA potential but there's probably still a few improvements to make first. I had a read-through of West Midlands (Regional) League by the way, but I couldn't think of much to improve it (sorry!). --Jameboy (talk) 00:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Just a quick note to say thanks for your peer review comments. I'll try to work through these in the next couple of days if I get time, before my upcoming wikibreak. Cheers. --Jameboy (talk) 11:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Dover Athletic F.C.

ChrisTheDude, I notice you are extremely interested in non-league football and have also taken the time out to correct or enhance some of the stuff I have placed on articles about Dover Athletic F.C. players. I was interested in starting up articles for all of the first-team squad and wondered if you knew of anywhere I could find statistics for all non-league players such as appearences for other clubs, as finding them out for Dover is no problem. I would be grateful of any response. DoverAthleticFC (talk) 09:29, 15 July 2008 (UTC).

Ádám Bogdán

Hi Chris. Do you have a subscription to Playerhistory.com? If so, could you confirm if Ádám Bogdán [1] played for SC Vasas? Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 57 10:42, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

OK, no worries - I'll ask him. Cheers, пﮟოьεԻ 57 10:49, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

14 Make a clean table for footballer statistics

Sup ChrisTheDude I was just wondering how do you make a clean neat table for footall players stats if you check out the one I made on Rico Kuhne's page then you wil b appauled by it. Respond soon. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by SGD-LFC (talk • contribs) 14:34, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Want help on making SC Boreas Dresden a better and bigger page

Sorry to bother you again Chris but I was hoping if you and a few others would help me make SC Boreas Dresden's on Wiki bigger and better post it on other people's UserTalk pages. Please and thank you again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by SGD-LFC (talk • contribs) 18:18, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Grimsby Town F.C.

Sorry, i'm not in love with English football like most people. I don't watch EPL at all and espcially not 3rd or 4th division games..... Hubschrauber729 (talk) 01:49, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

William McGregor

A source you might find useful - there's an entry for him in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, which is accessible to anyone with a UK library card. Articles about him seem to often use Association Football And The Men Who Made It as a source, but given that it was written in 1905 and goes for £500 I somehow doubt that one is going to be at our disposal any time soon :) Oldelpaso (talk) 21:04, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Try checking [2]. In some counties you can use your library card to log in from home. Oldelpaso (talk) 21:29, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

RE: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#RE: Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Mido z05

Hi thanks for sorting that, is there any chance you could leave a message on the relevant talk pages so that the various parties know how long they're blocked/not blocked now? Thanks. BigHairRef | Talk 09:44, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Cheers, thanks for your assistance. BigHairRef | Talk 10:01, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Gills v Blues friendly

As I shall be going camera-in-hand to the above, it being our only pre-season game anywhere even remotely near where I live, was wondering if there's anything/anyone you'd like me to try and photograph? assuming weather, demands of accompanying family and/or tantrums of aforesaid camera don't get in the way, obviously. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 14:50, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

My fault for not mentioning it sooner. For the first half hour it was all Blues, but after that your lot came back into it and looked quite lively. McLeish said afterwards that you had more shots than he was entirely happy about... They put us in the centre of the Gordon Rd stand, with padded seats, very nice. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 20:56, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

West Bromwich Albion F.C. seasons

Thankyou for your question at the FLC page of West Bromwich Albion F.C. seasons, which I believe I have now fully addressed. I'm still struggling with how best to phrase the lead, and in particular how to introduce the list without self-referencing or sounding too false. I'd appreciate any ideas you have with this. Cheers. --Jameboy (talk) 20:07, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

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Statnav

Hello CtD, Would you like to join Statnav? A network of people collecting and sharing non-league football data? I hasten to add that we'd like you to join because of your wiki expertise - not because we think that the Gills are headed for non-league football any time soon! :-) email me payo2000@mail.com or visit statnav.ning.com if you are interested.--Payo (talk) 17:23, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

==List of UEFA Cup winners Hi I addressed your comment that you had raised, any more comments would be welcome thanks for the input. NapHit (talk) 16:36, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

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Shearer pic

Hey, thanks for adding the Shearer Banner pic to Alan Shearer's article. Just thought I'd let you know that it may end up being removed however, as there's been a discussion about a similar pic before here and it was delete due to copyright concerns. I don't have much experience with image copyright/fair use etc., (plus I can't see why this would be unacceptable - nor see NUFC being concerned by the publication, given that the banner was hung off the stadium, as a tribute), so I'm going to leave it there - just wanted to let you know about possible concerns and that it may be removed. - Toon⁰⁵ 17:14, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

The issue (if my understanding of the discussion is correct) was that the banner itself is copyrighted - so it's a picture of a copyrighted picture... if you get my drift. I can't see it being a big problem. Lol, thanks! - Toon⁰⁵ 17:48, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Hello again! I was wondering if you would have a quick look at the Alan Shearer article and provide some feedback. I'm wondering mostly about the lead, IMO it may be too long, but I'm not sure where to go with it. Given your (pretty immense) experience with football-related FAs, I hopd you could provide a few pointers of what more there is to do before taking it to the slaughterhouse! Thanks - Toon⁰⁵ 17:23, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:AlanShearerBanner.jpg

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I see that the issue has already been brought up - basically, if you're using the photograph to show a copyrighted work like the Shearer banner, the copyright still belongs to the original publisher of the banner. You can read the explanations on Commons here and here. --Mosmof (talk) 23:40, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the multiple messages - I've withdrawn the WP:PUI nomination and gave it a fair use rationale, since I figured the banner was notable enough to be subject of discussion. Sorry for the trouble. Cheers. --Mosmof (talk) 02:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikiproject Football

Hi. I'm a fifteen year old hungarian boy. I looked that you're a member of Wikiproject Football. I want to join the group, but I have a question. What can I write? Because every time, when I want to write an article of football, somebody has already done it. Can you help me, what can I write? Madridista92 (talk) 08:38, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I also can write articles of italian football, because I'm speaking italian quite good. Madridista92 (talk) 09:02, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Image source problem with Image:StimmoWarmUp.jpg

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Bruce stats

I've reffed what I could, but the edition of the book that I have is from 86, so you have a frustrating gap. Three comments: 1) the stats you had were correct: where were they from? 2) Try using Rothmans to fill the gaps? 3) There have been more recent editions of my book that would have complete stats for him. I could drop a line to the NCFC email list on your behalf, if you liked. --Dweller (talk) 17:08, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review for Jack Wilshire

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Rodrigo Possebon

Hey man, any chance you could unprotect this article so that Roderigo Possebon can be moved there? Cheers. – PeeJay 18:54, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

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Gillingham F.C.

Well in response to: "absolute rubbish, they are not known to "all football fans", or even to all of their own fans by that nickname"

How come on the article Pikey it's mentioned on there, and the majority of lower league clubs refer to Gillingham as the Pikeys. It's not meant to be offensive, just that the area has a high number of gypsies. 22.13 (UTC)

FA Cup

Hello, I think is important to know the results of small teams in this competition. But if you think that is unnecessary detail I respect your decision. Why do you think this detail is unnecessary?. Thanks Magarridoc (talk) 11:18, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I think you have reason, but at least, is important indicate the maximun round this teams ever reach, are you agree?. Sorry if my english is not good, I'm from Spain, I love FA Cup, I'm trying to follow small teams in this competition. Magarridoc (talk) 11:44, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Chris, in this link Extra Preliminary Round, the name of the following round in FA Cup is First Round Qualifying, but you correct my anotation, what's the correct name? Thanks Magarridoc (talk) 19:52, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

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1999 Football League Second Division playoff final

Hi Chris,

Just thought I'd let you know I've added a couple of bits to the above article, namely the numbers each player was wearing that day (from personal notes crosschecked with Sky Sport's footage); plus Bartram as the man of the match. For the latter I have added a ref, unfortunately as my copy of the book is in storage at the mo I can't offer a specific page number. I'll try and get that in the next few days.

If you want any further help (the book i referenced has an entire chapter on the match), feel free to ask. :) - AMBerry (t|c) 18:25, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Turns out it wasn't in storage, but at the bottom of a box... ahem. Page reference added, however it doesn't elaborate much on the penalty shoot-out. However, that said, (the wonders of youtube) the order was: MC - Horlock scored, Dickov missed (hit both posts), Cooke scored, Edghill scored. Gills - Smith missed, Pennock missed, Hodge scored, Butters missed. Can't really cite a reliable source for that though. -AMBerry (t|c) 20:58, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't complain, I was further round, level with the penalty spot... at the wrong end. Plus there was a pillar, and the small matter of several thousand people in the way for me! -AMBerry (t|c) 21:06, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

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Robert Brown (football manager)

Good work on spotting the mistake, I've got a bit of information on him but never spotted it. I'll try to expand the article a bit but I can't find a birth date or place of birth anywhere, although it looks as if he came from the Jarrow area, working in the Tyneside shipyards and playing for Hebburn Argyle as a semi pro. Best Regards Mick Knapton (talk) 07:41, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Stimmo

Hey Chris, I'm not entirely sure. I've spoke to a couple of Grays Ath statto's and they reckon it could be a few more. His playing record here, says only 3 league apps, not too sure if that site can be classed as a reliable source though. It's a site I'm involved with. This is definately the very last game he was named in the starting 16, as a player-manager.

I noticed that you're adding quite a bit of content, are you trying to reach GA status? Cheers, --Jimbo^[online] 18:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi, just found out Stimmo made 40 league appearances for Grays in 2002–03. --Jimbo^[online] 19:49, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

No probs. Indeed they are decent pics, just needs to crop them. It made me laugh when I saw a pic of Andysteve in Mark McCammon's infobox. I even managed to grab a cheeky crop of Stuart Thurgood from the Simon King pic.

I've found his Canvey stats online at SoccerFactsUK.co.uk, I've seen the website referenced on Stuart Elliott's page which is a GA. He made 30 appearances, scoring 5 times for Canvey Island in the Ryman Premier in 01–02. His Grays stats are incomplete as not all the matches are on there. If I can get hold of a programme with his stats for the 02–03 season, would you be able to reference that? --Jimbo^[online] 08:38, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Move reverting

I wonder if you could help. Despite several discussions on the matter in the past on the talk page, including a formal RM procedure, a Turkish editor has moved Colin Kazim-Richards' article to the Turkish version of his name. I have been able to revert this in the past, but on this occasion it won't let me, because the CKR page already exists, as a redirect: surely it did last time I reverted... I'm afraid I feel no obligation to go through RM again, when a change contrary to that consensus was made with no discussion: can you expedite the rverion, from your lofty heights of adminship? Ta, UTG , Kevin McE (talk) 12:11, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Ta muchly, but could I trouble you for the talk page too. Kevin McE (talk) 12:22, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Kevin McE (talk) 12:30, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

peer reviews / Barnstar

Hi ChrisTheDude, I've left some comments at the Mark Stimson peer review and was wondering if you could reciprocate at Scott Carson? Your articles are always produced to a standard that makes it difficult to pick too many holes, so I apologise that there's only a handful of comments, but I hope that what is there is useful. Good luck with getting it GA, hopefully another one for your ever-growing collection. --Jameboy (talk) 17:27, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

		The Writer's Barnstar
		I occasionally have days where I think that what we do here is probably stupid and pointless. Then I see that you've racked up yet another good or featured article, and it inspires me. So cheers! Jameboy (talk) 22:41, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

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Talk:Michael Gash

Hi, the user must created the talk page as you deleted the article as it still exists. --Jimbo^[online] 13:30, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

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Roeder ... et al

Pleased to see Wikipedia editors adopting such a consistently neutral point of view towards former employees of clubs in which they take an interest :-) cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:05, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

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Gillingham F.C. FT

Just to let you know, some people are discussing your Gillingham F.C. FT at the Aston Villa F.C. FTC. Cheers, Mattythewhite (talk) 07:01, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Bruce refs

Having finally relocated some notes made ages ago when I was considering working on the article myself, there's only a couple that might possibly be of some use. In [3] he says "I had one year left on my contract [at Man Utd] and could have stayed but I knew they were looking for more centre-backs and I could see myself out of the side", plus other bits, and in [4] he says how in his last season at United, Ferguson stopped him taking jobs in management at three named clubs. Though I do realise there's a limit to how much detail you can go into before you end up writing a book rather than a wiki article... cheers, Struway2 (talk) 10:16, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Too much pursuit: "with three clubs actively pursuing his services, but Ferguson refused to allow him to pursue the opportunities" :-) Also, suggest mentioning that Birmingham were a second-tier club when he signed for them. The first sentence of the Later playing career section, apart from being more than a bit long-winded, rather implies they were top-flight. Would something like "Bruce was among five former Premier League players signed by Birmingham manager Trevor Francis to add experience to a squad expected to challenge for promotion" (and drop the "for the 1996-97 season") work better? It would at least be explicitly supported by the citation, which the "little knowledge of the top flight" bit wasn't really. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:25, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Re:Gillingham F.C. FT

OK, sure. Firstly let me say that I realise that Gillingham was the first of the football club topics, so very well done for that. But now, I have to say that it doesn't appear to completely hold up to some of the others. York for example hasn't done any better in the history of football than Gillingham has, so roughly speaking, I'm applying the logic that anything the York topic can do, the Gillingham topic should be able to do too. Of course this may be wrong but I'm sure the accuracy of this logic would come out in an FTRC. Right, now, onto the issues:

1. Gillingham F.C. records. I don't see why this can't be a featured list. It hasn't even tried, and I think any audited articles of limited subject matter should at least have tried. The other topics have featured records and statistics lists.
2. A quick check of Gillingham's website indicates the club does Player of the Year awards. But as far as I can see, this information isn't in the topic anywhere. The other topics have an article dedicated to this.
3. Since the topic nom, you've created the article List of Gillingham F.C. players with fewer than 50 appearances. I feel this constitutes a notable gap in the topic, and the way the rules work is that you have 3 months from the creation of a new article to get it into the topic. This article is over 3 months old.

If you're willing to work at these things, I'd be willing to turn a blind eye for a bit, and let you improve your topic :P rst20xx (talk) 13:32, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

OK, not sure when I'll bring it (may be a while) but thanks for understanding - rst20xx (talk) 13:45, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Erm, firstly no, you wouldn't need to renominate the topic, because you're not adding or removing any articles. And secondly, in light of these recent discussions about Aston Villa, I think that if you get the records to FL, you'll be sorted actually. On reflection the <50 list I think is optional, and as for the lack of POTY stuff, well what you can find about POTYs should probably be in the Gillingham articles somewhere, but if you can't find all the POTYs, then giving the subject its own article is a bit pointless really.

I think I owe you an apology, because while the topic did need work, the fact that I've now decided that two of the three reasons I gave for the topic not meeting the criteria are largely invalid is pretty poor on my part. So sorry about that, and good luck with the records article - rst20xx (talk) 14:43, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Tks for the review...

...here. As a matter of fact, most references to this article would be in portuguese. Would that be a problem? If yes, I can search for english references, but they won't be too numerous. Garavello (talk) 17:32, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Your Colchester mole reports back...

Monkwick is indeed an area of Colchester, about 1 1/2 or 2 miles south from the town centre, and is basically squaddie central. It is about as well supplied with leafy groves as Twydall, but there is a road there called Lethe Grove: I suspect that chinese whispers have come into play, or maybe they have simply forgotten how it was spelled.

Looking at the source, I guess that this was a phone interview and either Miller has the typical Colchester aversion to pronouncing th other than as an f, and/or the Gazette's journalist did not know the name of the road and made a lazy guess without looking it up. Kevin McE (talk) 10:20, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

On an unrelated point: if there is still pressure over, or an interest in, a Gills PotY list, remember that it was under the auspices of the Supporters' Club until the Scally era, and so Keith or Alan should be able to help, and they might be able to put a list on GillsConnect so that you would have a citable source. Kevin McE (talk) 10:09, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

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