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Archived discussions from: July 3 to October 1, 2012.

New Jeanne Image

Hey, I found another Jeanne image that's more recent and not the other I uploaded. Want me to upload it and if you don't like it, we can remove it? Or? _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 00:02, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Sure, upload away! We'll go from there. And for the Ricky consensus, I have no time this week so ... I don't really know what's going on, but Ricky is dead per all the soap mags, but I still don't know exactly what the problem is. If I don't respond right away I apologize, as I don't have any time this week. Have the new Y&R credis aired yet? No time for that this week either. Creativity97 (Talk) 20:04, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I'll upload it now. And nope, credits are likely delayed..... for another 11 years. (Kidding BTW). _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 22:34, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Alright, and haha, but are they really delayed or were you really just kidding? If they are, darn!! Michael Muhney's Twitter said July 4! They do it to drive me nuts! Aha. And seriously, what are these users doing to our decade pages? I don't want our tactics to be altered/changed. Creativity97 (Talk) 02:57, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Michael said week of July 4th but Canada didn't get them. So we'll likely get them by Friday or they're postponed. And I don't know, but I don't want to be involved with people telling me I'm off-the-planet wrong. _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 03:02, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

I see where you're coming from. I just posted a comment saying I was the one who created most of the decade pages (excluding the 1980s page which was Arre, but I set it up). They were also confused to as why some characters who first appeared prior to the 2010s were on that page, so I clarified that for them. They couldn't of got that from the opening title ("...characters who significantly returned...")? Anyway, I don't want nor do I have the time to be involved in that right now (or ever for that matter, aha). 20 years from now we won't have our damn opening credits!! Creativity97 (Talk) 03:08, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

I have several opinions concerning the topic discussion at the decade page that I will not get into as it is honestly not worth my time any longer. And yeah, I guess we'll have to have to see the credits. _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 14:05, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Now they're discussing either moving older character that first appeared prior to the 2010s to other pages or changing the name. UGH!!!! Also, I was wondering something about the Bianca Montgomery page, shouldn't Eden Riegel's picture be at the bottom and thr other actress be at the top because Riegel left in 2010? Or is there a rationale behind that? Creativity97 (Talk) 15:04, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Don't even get me started on that Creativity. It's two people who have had zero previous involvement with the pages coming in and changing the way we've had it organized. And no, she shouldn't. The show has concluded, and since ER is the most recognized actress, she takes the place of the CBL. _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 15:19, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Page titles

Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently tried to give Jessica Collins (actress born 1971) a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into Jessica Collins. This is known as a "cut and paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is needed for attribution and various other purposes. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history.

In most cases, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Thank you. R'n'B (call me Russ) 19:58, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for that, and just so you know I'm not new to Wikipedia, but I'm still learning, who isn't in this world? Thanks again. Creativity97 (Talk) 19:59, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

True that. It's all cleaned up now, anyway. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 20:09, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Heads Up

I see you going to work, but I gotta stop you. Images are not allowed in sandboxes per WP:FAIRUSE. _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 17:37, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Darn. Can I put them on Eden and Ronan's sections on the 2010s page? Creativity97 (Talk) 17:38, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

You could put them as mini-photos for now, but for more main images. _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 17:43, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you

		The Soap Opera Barnstar
		You have been awarded the Soap Opera Barnstar for your contributions to WP:SOAPS and soap opera-related articles on Wikipedia, specifically The Young and the Restless-related articles and its character decade pages. You clearly put a lot of work into them, and have become a fine editor! --Brick House 337 16:29, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

WOW!! My first barnstar! Thank you so much, it is much appreciated! Creativity97 (Talk) 16:32, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Grey's Anatomy Weekly Newsletter: July 16, 2012

WikiProject Grey's Anatomy Newsletter: The Week of July 16, 2012

Hello members of WikiProject Grey's Anatomy! We are sending out our weekly newsletter with updates about the project and tasks. Big apologies for the lack of the newsletter for the past two weeks! We have lots of new achievements and updates to be announced! We have fifteen new good articles! This is a great achievement for the project. The articles that were promoted are Lexie Grey, which was developed by TRLIJC19 and Sofffie7, Owen Hunt, which was developed by TRLIJC19, "I Like You So Much Better When You're Naked", which was created and developed by TRLIJC19, Grey's Anatomy (season 6), which was developed by TRLIJC19, "Good Mourning", which was created and developed by TRLIJC19, Callie Torres, which was developed by TRLIJC19, Meredith Grey, which was developed by TRLIJC19, "Great Expectations", which was created and developed by Jonathan Harold Koszeghi, "I Always Feel Like Somebody's Watchin' Me", which was created and developed by TRLIJC19 (previously a DYK), "Goodbye", which was created and developed by TRLIJC19, "Time Has Come Today", which was created and developed by Jonathan Harold Koszeghi, "Time Has Come Today", which was created and developed by Jonathan Harold Koszeghi, "Wishin' and Hopin'", which was created and developed by Jonathan Harold Koszeghi, Arizona Robbins, which was developed by TRLIJC19, "Tainted Obligation", which was created and developed by TRLIJC19, and "Invasion", which was created and developed by TRLIJC19. Sadie Harris is being developed by Sofffie7 and TRLIJC19, and should be nominated for GA soon. Grey's Anatomy and Grey's Anatomy (season 3) are in the preparations for FAC. There are many things to be done for the project, in an attempt to exemplify its best work. Below is a list of tasks, and guidelines:

Tasks and Gudelines

*Character Pages Ensure that each character page has this section order: LEAD (and appropriate infobox) Storylines Development Casting and creation Characterization Reception References External links Shorten character storylines, using {{Cite episode}} to reference episodes, and break down season sub-section headers into just one section, "Storylines". Model pages after Callie Torres, Lexie Grey, Owen Hunt, Izzie Stevens, Erica Hahn, Arizona Robbins, and Meredith Grey Main Page (Grey's Anatomy) Keep an eye out for vandalism, as that tends to occur at that page. General Many users and IPs have been erasing "surgical resident" from fifth year residents characters' occupations in infoboxes and at List of Grey's Anatomy characters. This should all be held off until more info is given on their current occupation in the season premiere. Revert if you see this, and if it's persistent; warn users. Some IPs/Users have been changing Lexie Grey's article as well as Callie Torres, going against MOS. Revert if you see this, and try to explain to the IP/User why this is wrong.

Weekly Initiative!
The weekly initiative this week is to develop a character article to GA quality, using the character guidelines above! Model your article off of a Grey's Anatomy character's page with GA status. Do it fast, because we are close to having all character articles at GA! Search the internet for casting/creation, characterization and reception information (a lot is given at the Grey Matter writers' blog), condense storylines, and try to get the article to GA quality (using MOS and Wikipedia guidelines), then nominate it. Barnstars will be awarded to users who develop their articles to GA quality! Also, use the templates listed at the project page to recruit new members, the more the merrier! Take part in these initiatives, have fun developing an article to GA, feel proud after the article you developed reaches GA, and be rewarded with barnstars! Help make a difference and get started! Furthermore, if you notice that any user has participated in any weekly initiative and was not rewarded, give them a barnstar ASAP!

Have fun and don't forget to cite everything you write! We hope to see several new character GAs, and new members, soon!

--The community of WikiProject Grey's Anatomy (Written by newsletter coordinator TRLIJC19)

Hey C97!!

Hey man, how have you been? Long time, no speak! Hope all is going well with you!! _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 17:31, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm fine. How 'bout you? Was Y&R good this week? Creativity97 (Talk) 00:33, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm doing alright, thanks. Just hanging out, working on some Y&R and DAYS pages of my own. And the show was decent this week I guess you could say. _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 02:30, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I saw Monday and Tuesday but missed the rest. Anything important happen on those days? Also, per SID and SOD, it says that Ashley and Tucker are divorced. All I remember is Ashley convincing him to finally sign the divorce papers which he agreed to do, but that wasn't shown onscreen. Did he sign them? Creativity97 (Talk) 14:54, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

I know Chelsea and Adam got married, and Sharon tried to mess it up. And then Victor caught her ass and owned it!! And Ashley did get Tucker to sign the papers, but I do not believe we find out that they're officially divorced 'til Monday! _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 17:04, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Glory. I hate Tucker. I know you don't read spoilers (nor do I) but have any idea about why Ashley leaves GC? Sharon's lost it for sure this time. Maybe send her to that facility where Isabella is because her character has reached the status of completely destroyed. The only upside is that she's blonde again (LOL), and that she has more of a backbone when she's with Victor. But I'm with Nikki on this one ("Date someone outside of my family and I'll leave you alone.") Yay for Chadam! It probably won't last as one of them will screw it up but oh well. Creativity97 (Talk) 18:16, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh, see I love Tucker and loved him and Ashley together!! I know for Monday's preview Ashley threatens to take Jabot away from Jack. So I suspect it has to do with Jabot. Oh see I love Shictor and HATE her blonde. Her hair is back to be boring and stiff again. Chadam better friggin' last. I love them together. I know I'm developing a Chelsea page! 30+ sources already. I'm on a role! Aha. How's your Eden/Ronan pages going? _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 18:28, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Haha. I feel the Eden page is pretty much ready to go, though Arre suggested a character development section which she said she'd develop, however I have yet to hear back on how that's going. I'm going to have to re-upload all my Eden images anyway. Oh wow! Glad you're doing a Chelsea page. MCE is a great actress so she deserves it! Yes, Chadam better goddamn last, I agree! I think they should bring in a new business scandal storyline, we haven't had one in awhile so that sounds good. And it's really too bad that Eileen Davidson is leaving. But, hopefully we'll see her again someday! I know we have conflicting opinions on Sharon, LOL! I think I might just publish Eden's page because I've waited a long time, aha. Creativity97 (Talk) 02:24, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Well if you're publishing your Eden page I think I may go and do my Chelsea page. It's overloaded with sources ahaha. And ED will be back to Y&R. It's her home. But Sony made the choice to move her! _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 03:32, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Okay, sounds good. Yes I saw lots of sources! Figured so, it is her home. Have you any good Chelsea photos? Creativity97 (Talk) 15:11, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry about Chelsea photos. I wouldn't put up a page without an image whether it be a screencap or an actual image from the promotion of the series. And do you mind if I take over going Genevieve? I could make her page within hours!! _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 16:44, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

That'd be great! If you are going to complete my sandbox I added sources a while back when I started but the storyline has not been updated, and I think you'll do a good job so go ahead! I published Eden's page. Still tweaking some things. Creativity97 (Talk) 17:49, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

I may take sources from your page. I have it in the works right now on my own sandbox. I'm working on casting today before work and then I'll be doing storylines throughout the week! I just know if Chelsea has enough for a page, Gen should too! _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 17:52, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good. Let me know when it's all put together. Creativity97 (Talk) 17:54, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, I started the process of re-doing the whole article. I'm basically starting from scratch. Nothing from the 2010s page. I've added about eight to nine sources so far, and there is still a ton more to begin on. I'll likely work more on it later this week when I'm not working. My only request is that you won't edit it? I know you won't, but I have serious issues when outside editors go in and edit my sandboxes. Aha. If that's okay with you, yes? _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 18:03, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

That's fine. I never edit other people's sandboxes without their permission, and I don't like other users editing my own sandboxes, either. If someone edits my sandbox I automatically revert it, no hesitations about it. It's a rule of mine. Anyway maybe I'll take a peek at it later this week when you've done some more! (Without editing, I mean.) Creativity97 (Talk) 18:10, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Aha. That's my same stance. It messes with the cohesion of the work I do for the page. Whether the edits are done in good faith, it's a revert. And alright! By Tuesday I should be adding a lot more. I have like 40+ sources right now. It's insane. _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 18:15, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

OMG! Scott Hamner is out at Y&R and looks like Maria Arena Bell is out next!! _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 18:32, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Imput Needed

Talk:One Direction#Styling of dates << Here please? _{MusicFreak7676} ^TALK! 19:11, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

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Hey

Hey I'm really sorry to bother you, but if you can, can you look around for sources about Sharon's Kleptomania storyline? :) Thanks. —ArreJLover 05:23, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

It's never a bother. Don't think that. Personally, I think the kleptomania section is fine, anything more added will make it overloaded with sources. And I've looked for all the Sharon sources I could find, the vast majority were duds and the rest I added/will add. Sorry Arre. And like MF said, I don't think we'd even find any about her klepto. And forget about Eden. She's all published, so it's fine. Creativity97 (Talk) 18:42, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeaa, well i added more info there after I asked you for help. :) It's fine. I think it has been a big part of the development of her character. Thanks, hopefully if Eden gets into more serious storylines we can find some sources and do that in the future :) —ArreJLover 23:24, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Grey's Anatomy Weekly Newsletter: July 30, 2012

WikiProject Grey's Anatomy Newsletter: The Week of July 30, 2012

Hello members of WikiProject Grey's Anatomy! We are sending out our weekly newsletter with updates about the project and tasks. Big apologies for the lack of the newsletter last week! First of all, we would like to welcome a new member to the project, TBrandley; we look forward to collaborating with him. We have several new achievements and updates to be announced! We have three new good articles! The articles that were promoted are "Give Peace a Chance" (previously a DYK), which was created and developed by TRLIJC19, Sadie Harris, which was developed by Sofffie7 and TRLIJC19, and "Flight", which was developed by Sofffie7 and TRLIJC19. Grey's Anatomy and Grey's Anatomy (season 3) are in the preparations for FAC. There are many things to be done for the project, in an attempt to exemplify its best work. Below is a list of tasks, and guidelines:

Tasks and Gudelines

*Character Pages Ensure that each character page has this section order: LEAD (and appropriate infobox) Storylines Development Casting and creation Characterization Reception References External links Shorten character storylines, using {{Cite episode}} to reference episodes, and break down season sub-section headers into just one section, "Storylines". Model pages after Callie Torres, Lexie Grey, Owen Hunt, Izzie Stevens, Erica Hahn, Arizona Robbins, and Meredith Grey Main Page (Grey's Anatomy) Keep an eye out for vandalism, as that tends to occur at that page. General Many users and IPs have been erasing "surgical resident" from fifth year residents characters' occupations in infoboxes and at List of Grey's Anatomy characters. This should all be held off until more info is given on their current occupation in the season premiere. Revert if you see this, and if it's persistent; warn users. Some IPs/Users have been changing Lexie Grey's article as well as Callie Torres, going against MOS. Revert if you see this, and try to explain to the IP/User why this is wrong.

Weekly Initiative!
The weekly initiative this week is to develop a Grey's Anatomy-related stub or start-class article, using the relevant guidelines above! Model your article off of a Grey's Anatomy page with GA status. Use your Wikipedia skills to fix MOS inconsistencies, copyedit, add more information by researching, and remove unreferenced claims! Barnstars will be awarded to users who destub/de-start their articles, and get the quality level promoted to at least 'C' class! You can determine if an article meets the 'C' class criteria by asking for the reviewing coordinator, TRLIC19, or one of his delegates (Jonathan Harold Koszeghi and Sofffie7) to review the article. Please do not change the article's quality rating yourself; you must have it reviewed by a member of the reviewing committee. A list of stub and start class Grey's Anatomy articles can be found at the project's main page. Also, use the templates listed at the project page to recruit new members; the more the merrier! Take part in these initiatives, have fun destubbing/starting articles, feel proud after the article you cleaned up looks better, and be rewarded with barnstars! Help make a difference and get started! Furthermore, if you notice that any user has participated in any weekly initiative and was not rewarded, give them a barnstar ASAP!

Have fun, and don't forget to cite everything you write! We hope to see several expanded articles, and new members, soon!

--The community of WikiProject Grey's Anatomy (Written by newsletter coordinator TRLIJC19)

Notice

Hi, Creativity97. An administrative board has recently been formed at WikiProject Grey's Anatomy, and anyone who has been a member of the project for a month is invited to join. That said, you are eligible, and if you want to be a part of it; please let me know the position you wish to obtain. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Although this is deeply appreciated Joey, I'm not really looking to be part of the administrative board right now. I'm happy just contributing to Grey's-related articles when I can. And, due to my work with WP:SOAPS (specifically The Young and the Restless-related articles), I don't really think I'd have the time to be any of the open spots on the board. But, thanks anyway. Creativity97 (TALK) 02:03, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Your work to the project is appreciated regardless :-) TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 03:04, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

YO–YO

I think I'm done with Wikipedia. No matter what I seem to do to progress soap opera pages, I'm in the wrong in going against WP:SOAPS and I'm tired of it. It's not healthy for me to become this pissed off and angered. It's not worth it. So I may leave everything and let other people ruin articles like everyone wants. Musicfreak7676 ^{my talk page!} 20:01, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

NOOOO! Please don't go. You have done so much with SOAPS and you should stick around! I understand it can be tough to deal with other editors but maybe another WikiBreak? Please DON'T LEAVE!!!!! Creativity97 (TALK) 20:17, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

No. I've been pretty fed up with how TPTB seem to handle things. And I think it's quite disgusting when I know what I'm doing is based off of WP:SOAPS and then I'm told I'm wrong, yet others aren't. It's completely one-sided and very personal for me. Musicfreak7676 ^{my talk page!} 20:30, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I understand. Really, I do. But you have to know that you've really turned around today's soap articles! With all the images you've uploaded and everything, it's amazing! And if you were to leave you'd be admitting defeat. If you really like Wiki you should fight for what you want. Creativity97 (TALK) 20:35, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

C97, I don't want to fight in my life. At this point, it's between my mental and physical health and a website where I'm not feeling appreciated. That's what it comes down to. I'm tired of fighting for myself and my beliefs. Let others come in and destroy things. I'm really not caring anymore. Musicfreak7676 ^{my talk page!} 20:37, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I can't tell you what to do. I've told Arre that you're planning to leave, and when she's online you should chat with her. She's very motivational! Maybe you just want to step down a bit, and not leave completely? Creativity97 (TALK) 20:39, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

No. Please stop. I really cannot handle all of this damn drama that is being caused because of consensus I'm following. And then I'm told I'm wrong and get attacked. Yet those who tell me said consensus through the project aren't getting even told this, either? It's unfair and I'm targeted by everyone. I'm done with it. Musicfreak7676 ^{my talk page!} 20:52, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't know what else to say then. I guess, thanks for all you're help with everything. I'll miss having you around on Wiki. Also, you should know that the email address I gave you I no longer use. Creativity97 (TALK) 20:56, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry man I'm just tired of being the one getting all the bullshit and then when I report the bullshit, no one does anything. And it continues. No matter what I do I'm wrong. And I'm done fighting and defending myself. I've fought all my life. I gotta fight my managers, gotta fight my family, gotta fight my mind. It's just not healthy and fun. Musicfreak7676 ^{my talk page!} 21:00, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

At this point it's a consideration. Not an impact decision. Musicfreak7676 ^{my talk page!} 23:07, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay. Really sorry to go off topic right now but, do you think you could answer the questions I left on your talk? No rush. Creativity97 (TALK) 00:32, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I really can't even think about that right now dude. I really cannot. Maybe later. I don't know. Musicfreak7676 ^{my talk page!} 01:36, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Kyle's page should be fine to publish it looks much better! So proud! Musicfreak7676 ^{my talk page!} 18:11, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!! Creativity97 (TALK) 18:22, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I also moved the page to where it was actually supposed to go. Do not forget about WP:COMMONNAME. Musicfreak7676 ^{my talk page!} 19:00, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I was unsure about which was his common name, Jenkins or Abbott, so I put it under both. Because he's referred to as Kyle Jenkins and Kyle Abbott on the show I was confused. Thanks for your help! Creativity97 (TALK) 22:05, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

The show has nothing to do with WP:COMMONNAME, it's about how it's been published. He's more commonly known in publications as Jenkins, so that's where he goes. It is not based on the series. Musicfreak7676 ^{my talk page!} 17:24, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

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Dayzee Leigh

Hey C97! lol, btw what should i call you? Anyway, I was thinking of expanding a little on my sandbox for Dayzee of B&B and then publish it, what do you think? Should i publish it? She isn't the biggest character, though she has been a regular for nearly 2 years (coming up in 3 months). Tell me your thoughts. —ArreJLover 06:41, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

It needs to be updated. The color is lavender and should be #CCCFFF, and in future don't use ndash at all. Other that that, it's okay, but there's not a lot of sources, 7 is no where near enough to be honest. It needs work, it shouldn't be published anytime soon. But maybe with some work it can be. And you can call me Creativity or C97. Creativity97 (TALK) 19:07, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Yea, i know. As you can see i haven't edited the page for 6 months. I was just asking you if you think it would be a good idea to work on it and then publish it. Also, i understand 7 isn't a lot, but I'm more into the information rather then the number of sources tbh. It could have 6 sources and have lots of great info :). By the way, what other soaps do you watch full-time other then Y&R? —ArreJLover 02:01, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't know you hadn't edited it in six months. Yes, with work and time, it'd be a good article. Yes, I agree, info over sources. To a degree, but info with sources is even better! LOL. By the way, what's tbh? I've been wondering for a while, lol. Y&R is the only soap I watch full-time, other than that I'll watch GH from time to time, and then I'll stop when it gets boring :) Creativity97 (TALK) 02:36, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

TBH=To be honest, ha :). I've started working on development for Dayzee right now, have a look and tell me what you think. Can you upload a picture if you're not busy (not right away, though, no rush) for her page cause I think I'll have it done in less then 7 days or so. Oh okay. I tried getting hooked to GH but i found it a lil too boring for my liking. Also, per the sources thing, I know Dayzee only has 9 so far but It's getting longer if you have a look. I don't believe in using 2 sources for one sentence unless it is sourcing two different things. Feel free to add anything to the sandbox if you want. By the way I was meaning to ask you, because I can't remember, was Victor & Sharon's marriage earlier this year annulled or divorced? —ArreJLover 02:56, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

I'll upload a picture (if I find one) once you've finished it because I've been told that main images aren't allowed in sandboxes per WP:FAIRUSE. If I find anything good I'll add it. Have you any ideas/sources for Victor and Nikki's page? The MTS image will be deleted soon. If there's multiple sources for one bit of information you should put them both. It looks better that way; my opinion though. Victor and Sharon's first marriage was annulled. Once Victor got out of prison he basically told Sharon to get the hell out and he reunited with Nikki. Creativity97 (TALK) 04:06, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

yes I know that, however they are only deleted after 7 days of being up for deletion; but I'll be finished before 7 days. OMG! I just watched the 8th August episode of Y&R on YouTube! Victoria owning PhyHO was AMAZING!!! OMG I was fangirling for Victoria/Billy lol. Finally someone like VICTORIA put Phyllis in her place! I hope Nick/Avery leave her lol. God that stupid ho. Hmm, for instance the Chelsea Lawson article, I don't like when there are so many sources, Idk I just think it makes the text look more bulky, just my thoughts. Oh okay, I thought so. —ArreJLover 07:57, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah I agree, Chelsea's article is way too bulky. The casting section is just a few sentences followed by eleven sources in a row. We should do something. Anyone can own PhyHO at this point. She's such a jealous cranky bitch and should shut up and let the world terrorize her, lol. Creativity97 (TALK) 18:23, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Haha ikr? Lovin this. If only Nick would ditch her 0_0 then it would be even more amazing. Yea, hmm for me Chelsea not only is too bulky but doesn't have enough casting/characterization info and stuff like that to be an article. It should be worked on or removed. Haha, i love how Sharon told Nick "you have a wife facing murder charges, why don't you go pick on her." lol. —ArreJLover 08:47, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

LOL!! We should definitely work on it because I know MF developed it and worked hard so we can add things. Yes Nick! Go pick on Phyllis and leave Sharon alone, lol. Creativity97 (TALK) 16:08, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I've added some things to make it more plentiful. Creativity97 (TALK) 18:24, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Saw It. Good job, looks better now. —ArreJLover 06:07, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

By the way, I don't see why Chelsea has an article up (9 months) and Genevieve does not (1 and a half years). —ArreJLover 06:40, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Last I heard MF was working on a Genvieve article. I'm not sure what the status on that is though. Ask him. Creativity97 (TALK) 16:14, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

Yea I know, I asked him to publish it. Hey by the way did you see what I did on Ronan? OMG I finally trimmed it haha. Now it's manageable considering his duration. —ArreJLover 01:43, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Dayzee Leigh is up. Could you upload a picture when you have time? :) —ArreJLover 02:48, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for so many messages, haha. OML Nikki is a bitch haha. As if she would just leave Jack like that after one day, just to find Victor? She is an obsessed little idiot. After all Victor has done to her, she still goes after him. LMAOOO @ Sharon burning the prenup and acting as if she's telling the truth when she says she did nothing. I know she will fail at trying to take over. Maybe that was MAB's last ultimate goal, to sabotage her character for good by making her the bad person, the person against the Newmans, when she is a Newman herself ha. A lil goodbye present from MAB -.- —ArreJLover 08:04, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

I'll look at Ronan's article when I'm done here. I'll upload a picture when I get a chance. Nikki is pissing me off right now. I loved how Sharon burned the pre-nup and acted all innocent! If anything MAB's last wish is to destroy Sharon's character just a little more. She's done such a good job at it the past year and a half so why stop now? LOL. Creativity97 (TALK) 16:09, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Great job on cleaning up Ronan's storyline. And I uploaded a Dayzee Leigh photo for you. Creativity97 (TALK) 16:50, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Ronan's sl was such a bastard it took a while LOL, thanks for the photo. Yea ikr? Nikki is so annoying. Yea...what's gonna happen? Is Sharon gonna end up in jail AGAIN? She's already been arrested so many times over the past 3 years. YEA! So true... I think she wants Sharon to be the outcast that she once was when Nikki and Victoria hated on her. And I was thinking, MAB has done SO much damage to Shick. It could take YEARS to patch that up..and on top of that, he's with PhyHO. I'm so glad that ***** is gone and hope we get good storylines all around. —ArreJLover 01:40, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Grey's Anatomy Weekly Newsletter: August 6, 2012

WikiProject Grey's Anatomy Newsletter: The Week of August 6, 2012

Hello members of WikiProject Grey's Anatomy! We are sending out our weekly newsletter with updates about the project and tasks. First of all, we would like to welcome three new members to the project: M.Mario, Tvlover96, and Mattom123; we look forward to collaborating with them. We have several new achievements and updates to be announced! List of Grey's Anatomy episodes, developed by TRLIJC19 and Jonathan Harold Koszeghi, is now a featured list candidate! If promoted, it will be our first piece of "in-house" featured content! Feel free to leave comments or voice your opinions here. Grey's Anatomy, Grey's Anatomy (season 3), and "Give Peace a Chance" are in the preparations for FAC. An administrative board has been added to the project, to make sure the internal processes run smoothly. Any member has the chance to join, and further information is given at the project page. Currently, however, all the positions are filled, so if you are interested, please contact the coordinator and you will be placed on a waiting list. There are many things to be done for the project, in an attempt to exemplify its best work. Below is a list of tasks, and guidelines:

Tasks and Gudelines

Please try to follow these tasks to the best of your abilities. As with any guideline, there may be exceptions, so use common sense when applying them. Character Pages Ensure that each character page has this section order: LEAD (and appropriate infobox) Storylines Development Casting and creation Characterization Reception References External links Shorten character storylines, using {{Cite episode}} to reference episodes, and break down season sub-section headers into just one section, "Storylines". Model pages after Callie Torres, Lexie Grey, Owen Hunt, Izzie Stevens, Erica Hahn, Arizona Robbins, and Meredith Grey Main Page (Grey's Anatomy) Keep an eye out for vandalism, as that tends to occur at that page. General Many users and IPs have been erasing "surgical resident" from fifth year residents characters' occupations in infoboxes and at List of Grey's Anatomy characters. This should all be held off until more info is given on their current occupation in the season premiere. Revert if you see this, and if it's persistent; warn users. Some IPs/Users have been changing Lexie Grey's article as well as Callie Torres, going against MOS. Revert if you see this, and try to explain to the IP/User why this is wrong.

Weekly Initiative!
The weekly initiative this week, an extent of last week's, is to develop a Grey's Anatomy-related stub or start-class article, using the relevant guidelines above! Model your article off of a Grey's Anatomy page with GA status. Use your Wikipedia skills to fix MOS inconsistencies, copyedit, add more information by researching, and remove unreferenced claims! Barnstars will be awarded to users who destub/de-start their articles, and get the quality level promoted to at least 'C' class! You can determine if an article meets the 'C' class criteria by asking a member of the project's administrative board to review the article. Please do not change the article's quality rating yourself; you must have it reviewed by a member of the committee. A list of stub and start class Grey's Anatomy articles can be found at the project's main page. Take part in this initiative, have fun destubbing/starting articles, feel proud after the article you cleaned up looks better, and be rewarded with barnstars! Help make a difference and get started! Furthermore, if you notice that any user has participated in any weekly initiative and was not rewarded, give them a barnstar ASAP!

Have fun, and don't forget to cite everything you write! We hope to see several expanded articles soon!

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WikiProject Grey's Anatomy Weekly Newsletter: August 13, 2012

WikiProject Grey's Anatomy Newsletter: The Week of August 13, 2012

Hello members of WikiProject Grey's Anatomy! We are sending out our weekly newsletter with updates about the project and tasks. We have several new achievements and updates to be announced! List of Grey's Anatomy episodes, developed by TRLIJC19 and Jonathan Harold Koszeghi, is still a featured list candidate! If promoted, it will be our first piece of "in-house" featured content! If uninvolved with the list, we urge you to leave comments, review the article, and support or oppose it here. Grey's Anatomy, Grey's Anatomy (season 3), and "Give Peace a Chance" are also still in the preparations for FAC, while List of Grey's Anatomy cast members is being developed by TRLIJC19. "Losing My Religion" is now a GAN; it was developed by Sofffie7 and copyedited by TRLIJC19. There is currently a discussion awaiting feedback here; please provide your input there. There are many things to be done for the project, in an attempt to exemplify its best work. Below is a list of tasks, and guidelines:

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Please try to follow these tasks to the best of your abilities. As with any guideline, there may be exceptions, so use common sense when applying them. Character Pages Ensure that each character page has this section order: LEAD (and appropriate infobox) Storylines Development Casting and creation Characterization Reception References External links Shorten character storylines, using {{Cite episode}} to reference episodes, and break down season sub-section headers into just one section, "Storylines". Model pages after Sadie Harris, Callie Torres, Lexie Grey, Owen Hunt, Izzie Stevens, Erica Hahn, Arizona Robbins, and Meredith Grey Main Page (Grey's Anatomy) Keep an eye out for vandalism, as that tends to occur at that page. General Many users and IPs have been erasing "surgical resident" from fifth year residents characters' occupations in infoboxes and at List of Grey's Anatomy characters. This should all be held off until more info is given on their current occupation in the season premiere. Revert if you see this, and if it's persistent; warn users. Some IPs/Users have been changing Lexie Grey's article as well as Callie Torres, going against MOS. Revert if you see this, and try to explain to the IP/User why this is wrong.

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The weekly initiative this week is to create a non-existent/redirect Grey's Anatomy episode article, using the relevant guidelines above! Model your article off of a Grey's Anatomy episode article with GA status. Use your Wikipedia skills to research information, copyedit, remove unreferenced claims, and add pictures! Barnstars will be awarded to any user who creates a well-sourced article, that has a quality of at least 'start'! To determine the quality, ask a member of the administrative board to review your article; please do not change the article's quality yourself. Take part in this initiative, have fun creating an article, feel proud after the article you created is existent, and be rewarded with barnstars! Help make a difference and get started! Furthermore, if you notice that any user has participated in any weekly initiative and was not rewarded, give them a barnstar ASAP!

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Hey, just thought I'd stop by and say hi. :) What have you been doing lately on wiki? And whats going on on Y&R this week? —ArreJLover 13:29, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Nothing much. I found this old Soap Opera Digest from June 1999, and there was a brief interview with David Tom when he was joining Y&R as Billy so I added it to his article. There was also a big article from when Shick reunited following the whole Grace ordeal and custody battle for Cassie, so I added some quotes to Sharon's page too. Nothing else really. On Y&R: Nikki and Sharon got into another fight at the ranch because she walked in on her burning the prenup, and then Nick walked in and tried to act all mature. He left PhyHO again after more lies were uncovered. Jack surprised Nikki with a honeymoon but she turned it town as she felt she couldn't leave town while Victor was missing, which pissed Jack off and then when she packed a bag, Jack told her he wouldn't be there for her when she came back, and turned away when she tried to kiss him goodbye. Daniel and Heather shared a passionate moment at the bookstore and then they went to Gloworm for drinks; meanwhile Paul was released from prison after Lauren paid his bail anonymously. After Paul, Nina and Avery arrived to celebrate, PhyHO came in, shot a nasty look at Avery and then embarrassed Daniel in front of everybody. When Heather got up to leave, Daniel followed her out and they made out. From what else I've read, this week will also include "Sharon and Tucker join forces to take control of Newman Enterprises" and "Phyllis's game of cat and mouse with Tim turns dangerous." Sorry for the long recap, lol. Creativity97 (TALK) 15:22, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

wow! That's awesome (about the SOD article). Yes i noticed that, It's really great, that section was in need of more information about Cassie, good job. Okay I just watched the Nikki/Sharon fight. LOL! Hilarious. Sharon needs to just tell the truth about the pre-nup...I had a dream that Victor came back to Y&R and killed Nikki (Yep, step into Arre's dreams that what happens)....anyway...ugh Nikki is a bitch! She just leaves her husband like that to look for Victor. Sharon is an idiot if she thinks she will get control of Newman. It ain't gonna happen. Especially when she's living in his house! She needs to get her ass out of there and move home. It's like she's pretending they are actually a normal married couple. Haha I hope PhyHO goes down! Poor Avery, she's a nice sister. PhyHO is just a bitch. Also, i was meaning to ask you, per the 2000s/2010s pages etc, do you have characters who have returned to relevance say in 2010 (but entered in 2002) int he 2010s page? —ArreJLover 02:35, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes I agree. Avery is a good person, but I'm not too crazy about Jessica Collins. BTW I've been meaning to ask you what you thought of Jennifer Landon as Heather. I think she's much better than Eden Riegel, but I can't say much of Eden's portrayal as, at the time, she was trying to convict Sharon and at that time, I still liked Sharon, LOL! Stupid MAB. Nikki is an idiot. She went back to Victor and then when she again realized he was a jealous bastard, she fell in love with Jack again. But, if Jack didn't run off to Vegas to marry Genevieve for BoN that wouldn't of happened. I'm done with her. Haha, I wish Victor killed Nikki! As per your question about characters that returned to relevance in the 2010s, the only ones there are Harmony and Ricky; Ricky I think should stay there as he was only an infant from 2002 to 2003, and Harmony appeared on a recurring basis from 2005 to 2006 before returning last October. Creativity97 (TALK) 04:05, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Jessica Collins makes me bored :L...I don't really care about Jennifer Landon as Heather. I only liked Vail Bloom (is that her name?! LOL) in the role. That's Heather for me. Ugh so true I hated Reigel in the role, annoying as hell. I want Jack & Genevieve back together. They made a great couple. Jack is such a hypocrite. I mean, just because Jen hid business stuff from him, that's why he was mad? They need to comeback. Nikki doesn't deserve Jack as he is right now. I hope he divorces her I-want-Victor ass. OMG, by the way, I'm a bit late in talking about this stuff but I can't BELIEVE Soaps are losing Bo from DOOL and Ridge from B&B. Idk, what's gonna happen to Brooke and Taylor now that he's leaving? Are they gonna become nuns?! LMFAO. Oh okay, i understand that. The only reason I used to do that for those "year" pages that I made before was just to store their characters there because I was trying to clear out that damn "Minor" character pages as much as possible. But that's fine, i see. OMG poor Sharon, Tucker is using her. He sucks. Hey, i was just wondering is there another way we can speak about soap (mostly YR) related stuff? Like Google chat or something? —ArreJLover 06:49, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, Vail Bloom originated Heather when she returned in 2007 and then left in 2010. I never got to see her. They did make a cute couple. But Gen is gonna continue to be attached to Colin's frauds and illegal activities, which makes that a no go. I don't really care about Gen anymore, however I do want to see what happens with the mystery terrorizer between the Winters-Ashby clan. I heard about soap vets from both DAYS and B&B leaving, but I watch neither so I don't really know what you're talking about, lol. I'll get back to you on outside chatting as I'm currently not using email or anything like that due to some issues, but if/when that changes I'll let you know. Creativity97 (TALK) 01:56, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Vail Bloom is the real Heather for me. I love Gen, I think the actress is amazing. I added a quote to Victor/Nikki's article. Oh really, I thought you watched B&B? You don't watch DOOL? DOOL has been excellent. Oh okay. OMG Sharon gave me chills at the Board meeting. Idk, even though it's not her place, I've never really seen SC like that, shouting authority in Nick/Victoria's faces.LOL. OMG PhyHO...Tim Reid..hahaha i couldn't stop LAUGHING! —ArreJLover 01:05, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

I KNOW!!! PhyHO was so desperate and then he died! Serves her right, stupid bitch. Anything that is thrown at Phyllis now is appropriate in my eyes. I'll check out the quote when I get a chance. Thanks for following up with that. Nope, I don't watch B&B, but I have seen bits and pieces of Hope and Liam's relationship but I don't follow it. I don't watch Days either, but I love Allison Sweeney on there. She's a great actress. Like I said, I only watch Y&R full time, and I'll watch GH periodically until it gets boring. Poor Sharon. She's so whipped into this Victor situation and she really needs help, but I love Sharon and Victoria showdowns and such. I could never follow more than one soap outside of the summer. I'm way too busy. Creativity97 (TALK) 04:31, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

I know right? I was so happy. I wonder what she will do w/ the body hahaha. I hope she goes down, i want her to go to jail. If they can put Sharon in jail for 4 months+, PhyHO deserves the same, considering she actually ran over people with her car lmfao. Oh okay, I hope Liam leaves Hope for Steffy. Liam and Hope are so damn boring. Yes Alison Sweeney is amazing. Sharon doesn't need help, I'm so happy she is finally standing up for herself, even though she is way out of line on this haha. It's hilarious. I hate Victoria and Sharon showdowns; I love both characters and it's hard for me to watch lmfao. I love Victoria/PhyHO & SHaron/PhyHO showdowns. —ArreJLover 07:00, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Christine will make that happen. I can already see her in her jumpsuit. LOL. And I agree. Creativity97 (TALK) 14:32, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

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Hello Creativity97, I would like to thank you for being apart of WikiProject Grey's Anatomy! Unfortunately, you have been given semi-active status by the project, due to your inactivity for one (1) months. Your work to the project was always appreciated, being that you were a great asset. This message is to encourage you to return to the project, and help out in the tasks that need addressing. To become an active member again, all you have to do is make at least five (5) edits, to any Grey's Anatomy-related page, over the course of two (2) weeks. We miss you at the project, and hope to see you around soon! Sofffie7 (talk) 21:02, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

I apologize! I've been a tad busy with other projects and such. But as soon as I get a chance I will make those five edits. I should have some free time coming up soon. Thanks for your words of encouragement! Creativity97 (TALK) 21:19, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Just to be clear, you don't need to apologize; it's ok! We know your big interest in The Y&R, so don't feel obliged to edit because I send you a message. It's just a reminder not to forget about the project but we completely understand if you are busy. That said, your recent edits are appreciated :) Sofffie7 (talk) 20:18, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you

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	I thought you deserved this, with all the work you do with The Young and the Restless-related articles and any articles on Wikipedia. Good job!! You're a fine editor! --Alfredo114 (talk) 16:17, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Aw, thanks Alfredo. It's great to know that my work here is appreciated. I hope you're doing well too! Creativity97 (TALK) 16:19, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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	I just saw this great typo you fixed at "Time Has Come Today". How that was not picked up by anyone; I'll never know. Also, I see the conversation above; don't let it discourage you (we all have ups and downs on WP) :-) TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 22:22, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I know, I saw the episode title and I knew for sure it was the season three premiere. It was bizarre how no one picked up on that, huh? Thank you for your words of encouragement. I won't let that happen. Creativity97 (TALK) 22:27, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

Haha yeah sometimes those little (but important) things get missed. Anyways, I hope you return to active status at WP:Grey's soon :-) TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 22:29, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

I will! It's at the top of my to-do list!! Creativity97 (TALK) 22:30, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

decade pages

I think that we shouldn't include guest stars like Sister Celeste. At first when i saw that she had her own section I thought she would have some sort of a contract or recurring role, but she's just a guest star. What do you think? When I created those year pages (2010, 2011, 2012 so on) i included a little table below the page listing guest characters, but it wasn't included on the 2010s decade page. I was thinking it should be incorporated. —ArreJLover 12:48, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

I think that'll work. I just added Sister Celeste and Beth because they had multi-episode runs. But we can put a table like you did. Good idea. Creativity97 (TALK) 17:24, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

George

I am so impressed with your work on George's article! :-) I have some characterization info, if you would like me to add it. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 16:36, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you!!! I worked really hard. Yes, sure add away. Also I was wondering if you could maybe fix some of the sourcing. To be honest, I don't know how to create a "ref name" so that one source can be used for multiple sentences. Could you maybe clear up some of that? Creativity97 (TALK) 16:39, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Sure. Just so you know for the future: The first time you add a source, write: <ref name=word>Add Citation Here</ref> Then, to use the same citation again, write: <ref name=word/> Do you understand? TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 16:42, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! I felt embarrassed to ask anyone up until now, lol. Creativity97 (TALK) 17:05, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

It's all fixed, no worries. Thanks for telling me how to do that! Creativity97 (TALK) 17:26, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Hey Creativity97! I wanted to congratulate you for your work on George's article, which I've just noticed, but I see TRLIJC19 has already done it ;) Anyways, thank you for your edits and I'm happy to tell you that your status will soon change back to active user. --Sofffie7 (talk) 19:46, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! George's article was in need of revamping. Hopefully we can eventually get it to GA, TRLIJC19 has some material to add. Thanks for the update, I'll be focusing primarily on Grey's articles for the next few days. Creativity97 (TALK) 19:50, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Grey's Anatomy Weekly Newsletter: August 27, 2012

WikiProject Grey's Anatomy Newsletter: The Week of August 27, 2012

Hello members of WikiProject Grey's Anatomy! We are sending out our weekly newsletter with updates about the project and tasks. Big apologies for the lack of the newsletter last week! What a busy two weeks it's been! We have several new achievements and updates to be announced! List of Grey's Anatomy episodes, developed by TRLIJC19 and Jonathan Harold Koszeghi, is now a featured list! "Give Peace a Chance", written by TRLIJC19, was promoted to a featured article last night, after spending only 7 days in candidacy! "Losing My Religion" was listed as a good article last week, developed by Sofffie7, TRLIJC19, and Jonathan Harold Koszeghi. List of Grey's Anatomy cast members, developed by TRLIJC19, recently entered the process of featured list candidacy—we urge you to review the list here. Grey's Anatomy, developed by TRLIJC19, and Grey's Anatomy (season 3), developed by Jonathan Harold Koszeghi, are still in the preparations for featured article candidacy. There are many things to be done for the project, in an attempt to exemplify its best work. Below is a list of tasks, and guidelines:

Tasks and Gudelines

Please try to follow these tasks to the best of your abilities. As with any guideline, there may be exceptions, so use common sense when applying them. Character Pages Ensure that each character page has this section order: LEAD (and appropriate infobox) Storylines Development Casting and creation Characterization Reception References External links Shorten character storylines, using {{Cite episode}} to reference episodes, and break down season sub-section headers into just one section, "Storylines". Model pages after Sadie Harris, Callie Torres, Lexie Grey, Owen Hunt, Izzie Stevens, Erica Hahn, Arizona Robbins, and Meredith Grey Main Page (Grey's Anatomy) Keep an eye out for vandalism, as that tends to occur at that page. General Many users and IPs have been erasing "surgical resident" from fifth year residents characters' occupations in infoboxes and at List of Grey's Anatomy characters. This should all be held off until more info is given on their current occupation in the season premiere. Revert if you see this, and if it's persistent; warn users. Some IPs/Users have been changing Lexie Grey's article as well as Callie Torres, going against MOS. Revert if you see this, and try to explain to the IP/User why this is wrong.

Weekly Initiative!
The weekly initiative this week is to search the internet, and find season 6 reviews to add to Grey's Anatomy. Search through google archives, and news websites, to find reviews that talk about season 6 in entirety. Please make sure the reviews you find come from a highly reliable source such as a major news site, or a well-known magazine. If you find some reviews, please post them on the talk page of Grey's Anatomy, where they will be evaluated for quality. If you find a suitable review, that fits the criteria we are looking for, you will be awarded a barnstar! Take part in this initiative, have fun searching for reviews, feel proud after the review you find is added to the main article, and be rewarded with barnstars! Help make a difference and get started! Furthermore, if you notice that any user has participated in any weekly initiative and was not rewarded, give them a barnstar ASAP!

Have fun, and don't forget to only look at renowned sites! We hope to see several season 6 reviews posted on the talk page soon!

--The community of WikiProject Grey's Anatomy (Written by project coordinator TRLIJC19)

Talkback

Hello, Creativity97. You have new messages at Talk:Grey's Anatomy.
Message added 16:20, 29 August 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

TBrandley 16:20, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Thanks for adding some reviews to Grey's Anatomy (season 6). Your help is appreciated to the Grey's Anatomy WikiProject. TBrandley 16:40, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! Always happy to help. Thank you!! Creativity97 (TALK) 16:41, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Creativity97. You have new messages at Talk:Grey's Anatomy.
Message added 21:39, 30 August 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 21:39, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

George O'Malley

Apologies for the delay in adding the info to George's article. I see lots of room for improvement, and would like to do a major copyedit of the article as well. That said, it's 3:00 a.m. (EST), and I need to go to bed, lol. I'll try to get to the article tomorrow morning, but I'm going away for the weekend, and will be editing sporadically until Sunday. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 06:54, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

That's fine, we all have other engagements and such. Whenever you have time is good. The only thing I ask is that you don't remove any of the things I've added? I've worked very hard to add a bunch of sources. Other than that, I'm interested to see what you have to add, and again, whenever you have time is fine. Creativity97 (TALK) 21:50, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Of course I won't remove anything! :-) Oh, and I may be able to start tonight. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 22:24, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Okay great. Looking forward to it. Creativity97 (TALK) 23:22, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Help needed

Hello C97. IF you're not busy, please help me work on Y&R's Genoa City page. It's completely neglected and needs sourcing. :) thanks —ArreJLover 11:14, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

When I get a chance, I will. I'm a bit busy with other tasks at the moment, but I do have a few sources regarding that matter. Creativity97 (TALK) 15:39, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

That's fine... I can see you are busy w/ GA stuff :) fine job!! So what are ya thinking of Y&R lately? —ArreJLover 12:49, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

George

Hi C97 :-) As I said, I have stuff to add to George's article, as well as some cleanup to do. Rather than the nom fail, would you mind withdrawing the nomination for the time being? TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 18:11, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Sure. I knew you had stuff to add, but I figured it wouldn't be anything drastically major. What do you have to cleanup? I've fixed all the links and such. Creativity97 (TALK) 18:13, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

There's a decent amount of work to be done, before it would easily pass a GAN. I have some reviews to add, the storylines are a bit long, and I would like to give an overall copyedit to cleanup the prose; I'll get started right now. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 18:17, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

I may sound a little stupid here, but I forget what a copyedit is. I read what it was somewhere and it has since slipped my mind. Storyline trimming was next on my to-do list, but you can do that if you want. Some more reviews would be great! I was trying to expand the reception on the George/Callie relationship but I couldn't find any good, reliable reviews. What kind of reviews do you have? Creativity97 (TALK) 18:21, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Copyediting is really just making the prose more concise. I am in the process of working on the page, so if you could refrain from editing it for the time being, that would be appreciated. I have reviews about his relationship with Callie, Meredith, Lexie, and Izzie. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 18:27, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Okay, all sounds good. And you won't remove any things I've added? Creativity97 (TALK) 18:29, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Of course not. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

I'll be leaving some notes for you as I clean up the article:

• In the future, long paragraphs should be split.
• Quotes should be used scarcely, and it's usually better to paraphrase.
• There's a bit too much coverage of Washington in an article about O'Malley; I've eliminated material focused strictly on Washington.
• "Give Me My Remote" is not a reliable source.
• What Knight did before Grey's Anatomy is irrelevant; this isn't T. R. Knight's article. I've replaced that info with casting information.
• IMDb and TV.com are not reliable sources, and can't be used in a potential GA.
• Storyline info should not be extensively re-explained in 'reception'.
• I noticed a lot of contractions were used; this should be avoided.
• Overall, the article was not in GA condition, but is good to go now, and I applaud you for working so hard on the article. I had to cut out some stuff that was overdetailed and irrelevant.

TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 02:45, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for that. I'm always open to learning, I've never worked on getting an article to GA before. THANK YOU for for finding some casting info I couldn't find anything. I understand how you had to cut some things for the sake of the article, and I appreciate your explanation. I'll keep all of that in mind for the future. Creativity97 (TALK) 02:52, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

I restored the nom for you :-) Thanks again for developing this article; it means a lot to the project! TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 02:55, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome! Always happy to help. And also, I was wondering seeing as how we both sort of developed because we both contributed, will I be mentioned in the next newsletter saying that George O'Malley became a GAN? Just wondering. Creativity97 (TALK) 02:58, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Of course! You're the primary contributor to the article. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 02:59, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

GREAT!! I'm looking forward to that. Creativity97 (TALK) 03:02, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

We already have a reviewer! TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 03:03, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	In recognition of our outstanding efforts in making George O'Malley a good article, I present you with the teamwork barnstar. Cheers to us! TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 17:53, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Cheers to us! Thank you so much. Creativity97 (TALK) 18:29, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Cristina

Hey, C97! I see you've been cleaning up Cristina's article; nice work! I was actually going to develop that to GA this month; it's on my to-do list, but if you plan on it, I will replace it with something else. Let me know, TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 03:16, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes I'm planning on it, but I'd love your help! I'm going to add some things and then maybe you can do what you did with George and cleanup for me? If you don't want to you don't have to but I'd love to have your help! Creativity97 (TALK) 14:21, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Sure, post a note on my talk page when you're done, and I'll clean it up. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 15:56, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay; I've been really busy since medical school recently resumed. Depending on how much work I am given for the rest of this week, I may not be able to do major editing until this weekend. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 04:08, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

That's okay, we're all busy. Creativity97 (TALK) 21:10, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi there!

Let me just start by saying you are a wonderful, hard-working editor, I have seen your work on several soap pages. Nice to read them! :) I was just wondering, now that MusicFreak7676 has retired, and they were working on a page for Gen, which never made it into publication - did you have a page lineout for that character? It would be wonderful to see her page up, especially since others that have come on the show after her (namely Chelsea) has their own page now. Happy editing! Allukka (talk) 16:57, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Oh, hello again! I just noticed that you are already on this one! So never mind my rants, lol. Allukka (talk) 17:00, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I was in the process of telling you and I hit an edit conflict, lol. Thanks for the compliments! It's nice to know my work here is appreciated. But currently I'm only letting Arre JLover and I edit it, as it's under major construction. But, I'll let you know if I end up needing extra help. Creativity97 (TALK) 17:03, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Cristina (Part 2)

Hey, I've went through the lead, infobox, and storylines, and will work through development and reception now. The article should be good to go by tonight. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 17:10, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Okay great! Thanks for spending some time on Cristina's page. Creativity97 (TALK) 17:12, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Just noticed your conversation... Please wait for me before it gets nominated because I've got a few things to add, but I was pretty busy that I couldn't do it today. I'll add them tomorrow. Is it ok? Thanks, Sofffie7 (talk) 22:34, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

You should take that up with Joey. He's currently making major changes, I've added all I could find. Creativity97 (TALK) 00:42, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

That's fine! Let me know when you're done, Sophie. TRLIJC19 (talk • contribs) 00:50, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Grey's Anatomy Weekly Newsletter: September 10, 2012

WikiProject Grey's Anatomy Newsletter: The Week of September 10, 2012

Hello members of WikiProject Grey's Anatomy! We are sending out our weekly newsletter with updates about the project and tasks. Big apologies for the lack of the newsletter last week! We have several new achievements and updates to be announced! List of Grey's Anatomy cast members, developed by TRLIJC19, is in the process of featured list candidacy. George O'Malley, written by Creativity97, was promoted to good article status last week! Cristina Yang, developed by TRLIJC19, Creativity97, and Sofffie7, is now a good article nominee! Our good article character count continues to rapidly increase! Jackson Avery is being developed to good article quality by TBrandley; we are excited for it to go live. Grey's Anatomy, developed by TRLIJC19, and Grey's Anatomy (season 3), developed by Jonathan Harold Koszeghi, are still in the preparations for featured article candidacy. There are many things to be done for the project, in an attempt to exemplify its best work. Below is a list of tasks, and guidelines:

Tasks and Gudelines

Please try to follow these tasks to the best of your abilities. As with any guideline, there may be exceptions, so use common sense when applying them. Character Pages Ensure that each character page has this section order: LEAD (and appropriate infobox) Storylines Development Casting and creation Characterization Reception References External links Shorten character storylines, using {{Cite episode}} to reference episodes, and break down season sub-section headers into just one section, "Storylines". Model pages after Sadie Harris, Callie Torres, Lexie Grey, Owen Hunt, Izzie Stevens, Erica Hahn, Arizona Robbins, and Meredith Grey Main Page (Grey's Anatomy) Keep an eye out for vandalism, as that tends to occur at that page. General Many users and IPs have been erasing "surgical resident" from fifth year residents characters' occupations in infoboxes and at List of Grey's Anatomy characters. This should all be held off until more info is given on their current occupation in the season premiere. Revert if you see this, and if it's persistent; warn users. Some IPs/Users have been changing Lexie Grey's article as well as Callie Torres, going against MOS. Revert if you see this, and try to explain to the IP/User why this is wrong.

Weekly Initiative!
The weekly initiative this week, a repeat of last time, is to search the internet, and find season 6 reviews to add to Grey's Anatomy. Search through google archives, and news websites, to find reviews that talk about season 6 in entirety. Please make sure the reviews you find come from a highly reliable source such as a major news site, or a well-known magazine. If you find some reviews, please post them on the talk page of Grey's Anatomy, where they will be evaluated for quality. If you find a suitable review, that fits the criteria we are looking for, you will be awarded a barnstar! Take part in this initiative, have fun searching for reviews, feel proud after the review you find is added to the main article, and be rewarded with barnstars! Help make a difference and get started! Furthermore, if you notice that any user has participated in any weekly initiative and was not rewarded, give them a barnstar ASAP!

Have fun, and don't forget to only look at renowned sites! We hope to see several season 6 reviews posted on the talk page soon!

--The community of WikiProject Grey's Anatomy (Written by project coordinator TRLIJC19)

Talkback

Hello, Creativity97. You have new messages at Talk:Cristina Yang/GA1.
Message added 05:06, 22 September 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

TBrandley 05:06, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Y&R New cast page and other adjustments

Hey C97. I was taking a look at the List of The Young and the Restless cast members page, and it seems a little long. I was thinking, we should split it in half, by making another page called "List of past (or former) The Young and the Restless cast members." I also think that "Crossovers" and "Notable celebrity cameos" do not belong on this page, because it's a list of cast members, not guests or anything like that. Maybe a place for that could be made on the main page for Y&R. Get back to me. —ArreJLover 11:27, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

That sounds like a good idea, but we should really post a message on Talk:List of The Young and the Restless cast members to see what other users think as many are frequent contributors to the cast members page. Creativity97 (TALK) 15:00, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

List of The Young and the Restless cast members

I've done over the page. What do you think? Also, as for the crossovers, I don't feel it's relevant for this page. Do you think we should create an article for crossovers? I'm not sure about this, though.. —ArreJLover 04:56, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Also, can you please publish the Genevieve sandbox? My internet is SOOO slow and it's not working. Thanks. —ArreJLover 08:53, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Good job! I like the feel of it. Do you feel now that we need to make all cast members pages like this for the current soaps? I'll publish the Gen sandbox now. Creativity97 (TALK) 21:20, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Okay. We could start with B&B. —ArreJLover 00:46, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

I don't really have the time to invest in that right now, it was sort of just a suggestion. But you can start and I can help when I can, if you want. Creativity97 (TALK) 02:13, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

GH articles

Hello. I was wondering if you knew of any General Hospital articles that need improving. I'm only on Wikipedia part time and it is one of my main areas of interests, so I'd be willing to help out. --Brick House 337 00:37, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't know any immediate articles off the top of my head, but I'm sure if you take a look around you'll find some. Soap articles are always in need for improvement. Creativity97 (TALK) 00:39, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I'll do that. --Brick House 337 00:41, 1 October 2012 (UTC)