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Michelle Chang

Thank you for saving her article. Yeah, it seems any Native American character in video games is bound to get tons of coverage.

Speaking of Native American characters, what do you think of Nightwolf from Mortal Kombat? He was recently merged from AFD result, due to him being deemed to not have enough coverage. But surely, there must be more beyond what has been cited there? MoonJet (talk) 11:38, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

I was thinking of looking at Nightwolf, but then I got bored and started working on esoteric GBA port articles. My suggestion is to search with these parameters:

• site:archive.org "Nightwolf" "Mortal Kombat"
• site:.edu "Nightwolf" "Mortal Kombat"
• intitle: "Nightwolf" intext: "Mortal Kombat"

You can also add "Native" or "Indigenous" in quotes in any of the searches just in case you want to guarantee you don't miss anything potentially relevant to that. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 11:41, 21 April 2023 (UTC)

Anyway, I completely agree with you that the recent AFDs are excessive. I get the fighting game character articles have been in need of a clean up, but just because you see something you don't think appears to be notable, doesn't mean you need to AFD it right away.

As for Nightwolf, those are some good suggestions I never thought of. I'll have to try it.

And speaking of Michelle Chang, I'm think of trying to get her successor Julia Chang to GA. I haven't done a GA in a while.

One more thing: I'm not sure if you remember me, but I used to edit under Kokoro20 (I remember you from your Abryn account). I admit, I actually helped Niemti in some articles back in the day, back when you could establish notability just by sticking a few listicles in the article. Looking back, Niemti did make a mess of things, but at the same time, I don't think all the recent merges are the answer either. We need more of a middle ground. MoonJet (talk) 04:20, 22 April 2023 (UTC)

City Escape

Hey again. I would like to let you know that I have your back on this. I don't agree that City Escape should be merged back into Sonic Adventure 2 either. But the moment I noticed you created the article, I knew it would be challenged, considering the standards the video game project tends to hold.

Another reason I wanted to contact you about this is that I've actually been sitting on a draft for Chemical Plant Zone for a whole. I have at least three sources in there focused on that level, and there's one or two more I could maybe add. What do you think? MoonJet (talk) 08:54, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

I don't like to be deflating you on this, but unfortunately I don't think that it would really work as an article. One big issue is that, at least at present, there's no info that delves into the creation of the level. Another issue is that, while there are articles that talk about Chemical Plant Zone as the main subject discuss it only in tandem with the game. So, for instance, the Sonic Mania reveal is more a news story about Sonic Mania than it is about Chemical Plant Zone. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 10:31, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

To be fair, the draft is not yet complete. I have more sourcing yet to add. Once I do add them, I'll let you know. Though, it could be a while, since all my Wikipedia focus lately has been on fighting game character articles, due to this AFD surge. MoonJet (talk) 22:25, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Your GAN review

Btw, don't forget it :D. GlatorNator (ᴛ) 11:29, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, don't worry. It'll probably not restart until the day after next, I've been pretty out of it and I'd sooner be in good shape so I do a thorough review. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 11:31, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Get well first! GlatorNator (ᴛ) 12:00, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

RE: Closure of the Nintendo Switch Lite merge discussion

I'd like to give a reminder that per WP:BADNAC and WP:NACINV, "a non-admin closure is not appropriate" when "the non-admin has demonstrated a potential conflict of interest [...] by having expressed an opinion in the discussion". From what I recall, I have only ever closed discussions in this way when the consensus was unanimous, which in this discussion it was not. In the interest of not getting into any edit wars, I'd like to respectfully request you reopen it, and if it must be closed, utilize Wikipedia:Closure requests instead. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:20, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

I mean, you didn't complain when I closed Controversy over the use of Manchester Cathedral in Resistance: Fall of Man as merge. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 05:21, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

In that case, the closure could be interpreted as a withdraw of your oppose !vote, making the consensus completely unanimous and WP:SNOW in favor of merge. I don't think that was a similar situation. If it had been an involved merge voter doing the close instead, I may have raised more of an objection. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:23, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

In that case, I'll be sure to reopen The Nier Automata Church discussion as well. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 05:24, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

As you had expressed support for merge in the discussion, I would agree. I also think the closure of it may have been a bit premature given the lack of consensus thus far. If an uninvolved editor doesn't close it in a week or two I will go and request closure. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:35, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

Deletion of "William David Volk"

Saw this on the deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William David Volk

Plenty of hits in Crypto blogs or websites, which seem associated with him; this is typical of them [1]. Anything crypto is a huge red flag. This in the IBT [2] is about all there is, and it's an iffy source. Oaktree b (talk) 19:05, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Yes, he directed the development of Shiba Eternity which is a mobile game with no crypto or NFT's. It's on Apple and Google's app stores. Honestly at his age (66?) getting any position in the age biased video game industry is a difficult thing.

Anyway, his main activity now relates to his own company and mobile games he produces. See [1]https://AnagramQuest.com/ VideoGameVet (talk) 03:53, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

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The Naoto criticism

The problem with the criticism page is that - there was way too much in the weight of 'Naoto's story is transphobic'. The point of a reception page is to have the overall consensus be represented with a few notable criticisms. All the random blogs added do not tip the scale that way, it makes it seem like the article wants you to think a certain way. This isn't a 'up to interpretation' thing.

This doesn't come from people lashing out about the idea of a character being trans. It's more that these specific shallow criticisms are tired and do not reflect most people. It's worth making a mention to it once or twice (as was done), not a whole paragraph of writers that have gotten torn apart 2603:7080:A5F0:8C50:4825:A424:2B82:11F0 (talk) 18:24, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

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Hi Cutkie Gherkin, I just came across your GA review at Talk:Voltorb/GA1. Good Article reviews should inform both the nominator and other editors looking at the page as to how the article meets the GACR. The Voltorb GAN does not make this clear. Would you be able to expand upon your thoughts there as to how the article meets each of the GACR, including noting which sources were checked for plagiarism and OR? Thanks for your participation in GAN, CMD (talk) 05:56, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

@Chipmunkdavis: Aside from doing a plagiarism checker on the article, I also verified that content in the article was adequately summarized without merely rehashing what was said. Links checked include [2], [3], and [4], all of which are not reproduced, but more importantly, are written in such a way that satisfies that the article is sufficiently original. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 06:15, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks, can you add that at Talk:Voltorb/GA1? Best, CMD (talk) 06:30, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

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Mr. Mime

The text in the article Mr. Mime literally says "Created by Ken Sugimori". Quit the OR. Dimadick (talk) 01:49, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

@Dimadick: For someone on their talk page who argued that we should assume that Sugimori designed any Pokemon where a creator is not listed, I would advise against baselessly accusing people of violating WP:OR. That portion of the Mr. Mime article was from an outdated version where the article erroneously attributed the creation of all Pokemon to Sugimori, and no sources in the article claim that he did.

If you intend to continue editing Wikipedia, I would strongly recommend you be more careful with your editing, and be mindful of how you speak to people. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 02:09, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

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Tekken characters

I noticed you've been gathering up sources for potential character articles in one of your sandboxes. I have one for Tekken characters (User:MoonJet/Potential Tekken character articles). Do you have any good sources I haven't listed there yet?

It's also a shame Lucky Chloe was merge per AFD. She really did deserve the article. MoonJet (talk) 09:43, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

@MoonJet: Unfortunately, I haven't actually done any searches for Tekken characters, aside from ones that came up at AfD recently. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 20:01, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

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Aw, thank you kindly. It's just fun to make 'em. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 21:29, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

I have an important question. Who's the best girl? QuicoleJR (talk) 14:36, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Certainly Sayori, for I find her plight relatable. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 19:12, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

I am also a Sayori fan. Great minds think alike! QuicoleJR (talk) 23:02, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

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YOOOO!

Bobby! Love this game, and I thank you for the work.

Way back when I was new I was considering that if anything were to be spun off from this game it would be Olivia. I dabbled with it a long time ago but do you reckon this is a possibility? Not for you to do, just in general (perhaps me if I care enough). Panini! • 🥪 01:10, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Haha, thanks. I'm not sure about Olivia, I only wrote about Bobby because I saw a couple sites ranking him in best of rankings, and became curious whether he was notable. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 02:01, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

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Input needed

Hey, since you've been bringing back character articles lately, I'm asking for your input on my draft at User:MoonJet/Josie Rizal. As you probably know, Josie Rizal was just in AFD, and closed as merge. However, I've done more searching after the AFD, and quickly found more sources (including a few that were published after 2015), most of which I've added to the draft. Here's a comparison between the article that was merged, and my current draft. I would go bold and restore it myself, but I want to try and prevent another needless, knee-jerk AFD.

I think we could take the Sarah Bryant approach here. But first, I'm asking for input from a few editors that contribute to video game character articles. MoonJet (talk) 17:27, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm a little busy at the moment, can you highlight the sources you added so I can look them over? @MoonJet: - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 17:32, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Sure. Here are all the sources I've added to my draft after the merge:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/gypgz7/tekken-7-celebrates-ethnicities-and-martial-arts-from-around-the-world

https://thegame-onemega.com/looking-back-at-josie-rizal-tekkens-very-own-filipino-fighter/

https://nolisoli.ph/53119/theres-a-game-where-you-can-play-as-a-revenge-seeking-resurrected-andres-bonifacio-zacosta-20181130/

https://www.gamesradar.com/how-multicultural-characters-can-make-better-games-everyone/

https://nylonmanila.com/filipino-characters-video-games/ MoonJet (talk) 18:37, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

My inclination is that, should The Game, Nolisoli, and Nylon Manila be usable (which they seem like they may be), this would be adequate to show sustained coverage. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 18:53, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

That said, I recommend letting the draft cook until she's in Tekken 8, just to see if that doesn't help strengthen its sourcing. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 19:17, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Nylon Manila is the Filipino version of Nylon. Nolisoli is a subsidiary of Inquirer.net. The Game is magazine with an established staff team and a privacy policy, so I assumed it's usable. Plus, there's no guarantee she'll even be in Tekken 8 at all. MoonJet (talk) 19:49, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

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Bobby (Paper Mario)

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Character reception

What methods do you use for searching for character reception? I've been trying to find some decent coverage, but I never find more than one or two good sources for a character. QuicoleJR (talk) 16:55, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

@QuicoleJR: Here you go: User:Cukie Gherkin/Source searching - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 18:47, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! QuicoleJR (talk) 18:48, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

House of Ashes FAC

Hey, since you were the one who did the GA review for The Dark Pictures Anthology: House of Ashes, I was wondering if you'd be interested in having another look at it now that it has been nominated for FAC? No big deal if you don't, asking just in case. -- ZooBlazer 21:26, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

I am interested, but FACs are pretty exhausting, and I literally just picked up three more GAs to review lol. Is there an upcoming deadline for the FAC being rejected? If not, I'd suggest watching the reviews of Leo Kliesen, Metal Combat: Falcon's Revenge, and Mega Man X: Command Mission. I'll try to get to the FAC once these are done, but feel free to remind me, okay? - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 21:29, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Is there an upcoming deadline for the FAC being rejected?

There are two pending reviewers, so hopefully no risk of it being archived soon, although it's been open for two weeks and I know the FAC coordinators usually leave a message after around three weeks if little progress is made. -- ZooBlazer 22:40, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Aight. Well, I'm almost done with two of the reviews, and then I'm going to work on Mega Man X. Should be good to do an FAC review after that. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 22:42, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Hey, I know you said you probably wouldn't have the time to finish a full review, but if you do have some spare time, could you do the image review instead? No worries if not. I'm sure someone will get to it eventually. -- ZooBlazer 08:38, 7 March 2024 (UTC)

On a Good Article rush

Hi Cukie Gherkin: Do you mind if I improve on Sobble and nominate it for Good Article status? Thanks, TWOrantula^TM (enter the web) 20:54, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Tagging pages for speedy deletion

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Your GA nomination of Dragon's Lair (Game Boy Color video game)

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Aftermath editorial policy

You mentioned at the last VG/S discussion that you'd contacted Grayson about their editorial policy. Do you still have that line of communication open? It seems that a number of commenters are withholding support contingent on that editorial policy, which they obviously have, getting published somewhere on the site. Axem Titanium (talk) 19:02, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

Community

Hello would you be intrested in collaborating on a community episode possbily "G.I. Jeff" I saw your post on Bilvor's page Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:21, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

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