User talk:Dv82matt/Archive 01

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Re: TES Infoboxes

My, these are huge... IMO we should better stick with the old small ones... --Koveras

14:41, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It's not that huge, check out Template:Half-Life for example. Also this template isn't intended to go on every page to do with 'The Elder Scrolls' just a few of the major ones. I agree with you that this template would look out of place on short articles. Dv82matt 15:02, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, Half-Life template is brutally oversized... But as long as you are not planning to put this on into smaller articls, that's just fine with me. :) BTW, thank you for writing the articles about TES creatures and Chimer. --Koveras

17:46, 17 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. BTW, although I'd like to take the credit, I didn't write the aticles you mention. I did just create the stub Imperials. It need a picture but I'm not sure how to do that. --Dv82matt 04:04, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. %) And I was sure, you are the author... Anyway, the picture of an Imperial is problematic. Check out Category:The Elder Scrolls images, maybe you'll find a screenshot of one there... Otherwise, we could just mention that the Imperials are the "most normal" humans of Tamriel and let it be like that. :) --Koveras

09:47, 18 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Western

I reverted your change of this article to a redirect. All of the links to that page are for the casino and not something else. Also, given that there had been no categories assigned, I suspect that most people who could have fixed the article were not aware that it even existed. It has now been listed on the Wikiproject Las Vegas talk page to see if someone who knows somethings more about this properity can jump in and fix it. If nothing happensin aweek or two, please feel free to {{prod}} the article so it can be deleted rather then changing it to a redirect. Vegaswikian 20:42, 18 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okey doke. Sounds good. --Dv82matt 21:50, 19 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Topic in footer

I have reverted your additions of the topic in footers to music of articles. There are already similar boxes organized along normal music area lines. Thanks. Tuf-Kat 22:43, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'm glad I stoped when I did then. But not all the articles have similar nav boxes. Check Music of Canada and Music of United States for example. --Dv82matt 00:27, 1 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

Just wanted to drop you an Editor's Barnstar for working tirelessly on merging and keeping TES-related articles clean and relevant. It's a work that you won't receive much credit for, but should. Well done. Tijuana Brass^¡Épa! 00:29, 6 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I appreciate it. --Dv82matt 22:16, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ahmedabad GA

Hello. I see that you have nominated Ahmedabad for GA. But this article is going to have an FAC soon (today or tomorrow), so there is no point going for GA nomination as well. From what i understand, GA was started for articles which would not make it to FA level primarily due to reasons like the length of the article, which is not the case with Ahmedabad. - Aksi_great (talk - review me) 13:29, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sure no problem the FAC should take precedence. But GA is not limited to shorter articles as far as I am aware. Dv82matt 22:59, 30 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Enforce inclusion of categories

Hi, I've made a proposal to change the software to prevent mainspace pages from being saved unless they contain a category. Since you've done a lot of work at User:Bluemoose/Uncategorised good articles, which would be affected by this proposal, I'd appreciate your thoughts! bd2412 T 23:36, 4 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User Page Link Bar and Toolbox

I came across your user page with its link bar and tool box. It is a very useful set up that I have added to my own user page. I am not sure if it is your invention or where it might have come from, but thanks for sharing it! Cheers. KenWalker | Talk 05:41, 5 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note about the edit count link. I had noticed it wasn't being updated and in the last few days have poked around about fixing it, but not got it done. Works great now. KenWalker | Talk 19:40, 13 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Adel Hassan Hamad

Could you please explain why you put a {wikify} tag on Adel Hassan Hamad? -- Geo Swan 12:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Taking a second look the formating is not as bad as I initially thought. I've made a few minor adjustments and removed the tag. Feel free to revert if you disagree with them. —dv82matt 12:59, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the adjustments. -- Geo Swan 16:58, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup for Lake Pepin

Do you remember why you put the {{cleanup}} tag on Lake Pepin? I was taking a look at the article and trying to figure out why it needed cleaning up. There was a list of casualties from a boat accident there, although that list has since been removed. About all I see right now is the possibility for minor formatting fixes and some expansion, including an infobox.

If you let me know what needed cleaning up, I'll look at it in more detail and see if I can fix it. --Elkman - (Elkspeak) 21:47, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, with that unsightly list removed the cleanup tag is no longer really needed. It could still use some wikification I think, such as delinking years and redundant links, but feel free to remove the cleanup tag. —dv82matt 22:03, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion of Hakia

Hi, just curious why you deleted this article. It was on the articles for creation page, and I think it's now notable enough for inclusion. —dv82matt 06:16, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There was no assertion of importance. Sarah Ewart 06:21, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay thanks. But doesn't the assertion that they are creating the first "meaning based" search engine amount to an assertion of importance? —dv82matt 06:28, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think so and it didn't say that anyway; it said that's what they claim they are doing, which is very different. There's no prejudice against another article if you think you can make a stronger case for notability. Sarah Ewart 06:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I may have misunderstood what you meant by 'assertion of importance'. Would mentions by third parties be more useful in establishing importance? I probably won't re-create the article unless I am reasonably sure that it will meet the standards of Wikipedia. Thanks again for your help. —dv82matt 06:48, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

According to a version that was deleted for the same reasons six days ago, the search engine is "currently in Beta...and is scheduled for release during 2007." If this is correct, I would not advise recreating this article until it is released, or unless you feel you can establish verifiable notability under WP:CORP. Otherwise it will most likely be deleted again. This article has been deleted three times already. Sarah Ewart 07:17, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it is currently in beta but it is available to the general public. I'm not sure that it doesn't meet WP:CORP but I agree that it's not a slam dunk. I just checked it's Alexa ranking, which is 25,482 so nothing too hopeful there, but Google returns 466,000 results. Its also been mentioned on several high profile blogs and even in the mainstream media. I will take your advice and wait till it's out of beta before recreating it. Cheers. —dv82matt 07:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Stubs

Thank you for adding {{stub}} to artcles. IF possible please use a specific stub rather than {{stub}}. A helpful list of stub types is at WP:WSS/ST. Thank you. Ksbrown^talk 13:45, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, that is one giant list of stubs! Stub sorting isn't really my thing but I'll do my best. —dv82matt 14:51, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Hi, although I've been kept very busy in "real life" lately, I've been watching your cleanup of WP:VA. Of course there are one or two changes I'd like to debate, but I think you're doing a great job, and I just wanted to thank you. I know it's very time consuming working on this stuff, but I for one appreciate the progress you're making. Cheers, Walkerma 04:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. It's nice to be appreciated. :-) —dv82matt 19:44, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vital articles

Hi, I wrote a critical comment in the talk page and suggest some other entries. I hope my comment(Eurocentrism) doesn't bother you and we can make the list more NPOV. Of course that was a suggestion and we should debate to choose the most notable events and persons.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 04:35, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll reply shortly. Cheers. —dv82matt 04:42, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thanks for adding the cats to the Still Pending article. I wasn't sure how to do this myself. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stampsations (talk • contribs) 08:22, May 20, 2007 (UTC).

You're welcome. Incidentally, the cats were already in the article history but apparently someone had deleted them. Anyhow, happy editing. :-) —dv82matt 21:15, 20 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Artifacts of The Elder Scrolls

Artifacts of The Elder Scrolls, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Artifacts of The Elder Scrolls satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Artifacts of The Elder Scrolls and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Artifacts of The Elder Scrolls during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:18, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Septim bloodline

Septim bloodline, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Septim bloodline satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Septim bloodline and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Septim bloodline during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:19, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Organizations of The Elder Scrolls

Organizations of The Elder Scrolls, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Organizations of The Elder Scrolls satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Organizations of The Elder Scrolls and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Organizations of The Elder Scrolls during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 18:19, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Settlements of Morrowind

Settlements of Morrowind, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Settlements of Morrowind satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Settlements of Morrowind and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Settlements of Morrowind during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 22:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Major regions of The Elder Scrolls

Major regions of The Elder Scrolls, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Major regions of The Elder Scrolls satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Major regions of The Elder Scrolls and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Major regions of The Elder Scrolls during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 22:46, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Major regions of The Elder Scrolls

Major regions of The Elder Scrolls, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Major regions of The Elder Scrolls satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Major regions of The Elder Scrolls (2nd nomination) and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Major regions of The Elder Scrolls during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 22:52, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Races of The Elder Scrolls

Races of The Elder Scrolls, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Races of The Elder Scrolls satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Races of The Elder Scrolls and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Races of The Elder Scrolls during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 23:08, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Characters of Oblivion

Characters of Oblivion, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Characters of Oblivion satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and the Wikipedia deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Characters of Oblivion and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Characters of Oblivion during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 23:08, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CfD nomination of Category:The Elder Scrolls lore

I have nominated Category:The Elder Scrolls lore (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 06:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

CfD nomination of Category:The Elder Scrolls lore

I have nominated Category:The Elder Scrolls lore (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 13:18, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

TfD nomination of Template:TES-organizations

Template:TES-organizations has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 13:27, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Raphael

It seems perverse to remove this from the vital articles. There are now only 9 artists left, and Raphael must be more significant, on any objective scale, than Dali or Monet at least. Nor can the article reasonably now be described as start class. You may remember Jimbo expressing the wish some time ago that WP improves its coverage of the visual arts - this hardly seems the way. Johnbod (talk) 23:10, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the vital article parameter from the {{WP1.0}} banner because "Raphael" is not listed as a vital article at Wikipedia:Vital articles. I wasn't making an editorial descision that it shouldn't be a vital article. You might want to bring this up at the vital articles talk page. Cheers —dv82matt 23:29, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vital articles

I noticed you have removed quite a few mathematics articles from Wikipedia:Vital articles. I'm curious what criteria you use in deciding which ones to remove. It seems to me that the concept of "vital to a general-purpose encyclopedia" doesn't change much over time. — Carl (CBM · talk) 02:19, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've no set criteria for inclusion of mathematics articles at the moment but redundancy is a significant factor. Of my recent removals Cartesian coordinate system and Polar coordinate system seemed redundant with Coordinates (mathematics); Mathematical logic redundant with Logic; Division (mathematics) and Subtraction have since been readded but at the time I removed them I reasoned that they could be considered as special cases of Multiplication and Addition respectively and also redundant with Arithmetic; Trigonometric function and Set theory I considered redundant with Trigonometry and Set respectively.

I just want to note that I am not focused exclusively on removal of articles. Actually many of the articles I have removed were originally added by me.

You are right that the concept of being a vital article should (ideally) not change much over time but that includes a couple of assumptions, first, that the Vital articles list is itself already of high quality, and second, perhaps more seriously, that there is some objective standard of what constitutes a Vital article. Another factor is that the list has a tendency to grow as people tend to focus on additions to the list rather than removals. This nessessitates having to prune the list back from time to time. I look forward your further input at Vital articles. —dv82matt 03:42, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria for Vital Articles?

I saw Singapore taken out. While I can imagine how it might be justified, without a reason given it does seem arbitrary. Perhaps your WP 1.0 wikiproject can clearly list out the criteria for inclusion and exclusion, to be fair and transparent. I also notice in your list that there is "something for everyone" — an attempt seems to have been made to counter systemic bias by picking a (something) from every continent. But I wonder if the world is simply so reducible. --Rifleman 82 (talk) 00:55, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some archived discussion is here. To be clear though, I am not a member of the WP 1.0 wikiproject. I am active at WP:VA but that is unrelated. Deleting the VA parameter from the {{WP1.0}} templates is just housekeeping. Most of the articles whose VA parameters I've removed, including Singapore, were removed from the vital articles page some time ago but no one had bothered to update the relevant {{WP1.0}} parameter in some time if ever.

There are no specific criteria for inclusion that cover the list as a whole, but for cities relevant factors include population, economy, historical/religious/cultural significance and to a lesser degree political significance.

You are right that attempts to counter systemic bias can sometimes wind up introducing biases. Any specific input you may have on this would be helpful at Wikipedia Talk:Vital articles. Thanks —dv82matt 05:22, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the clarification, I understand your point of view. Reading the archived discussion, I am wondering if it is even meaningful to have a list at all. Perhaps you guys (collectively, not referring to you alone) can take care of the articles which are not actively being taken care of by wikiprojects in the first place? Rather than lead people into a pissing contest (perhaps an unintended consequence?). --Rifleman 82 (talk) 05:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, one thing to bear in mind is that the vital articles list is intended to be informal. It does not carry any official sanction and only reflects the opinions of those who choose to participate. No one is forced to accept the legitimacy of the list. That said I do think it is useful. It can serve as a centralized watchlist or as a guide for prioritizing articles that need improvement. I know at one point the Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team used it to supplement the articles in their core topics list. It can also be used as a minimal article guide for small foreign language wikipedias. In fact the vital article page originally evolved from m:List of articles every Wikipedia should have and I think it is a significant improvement from that list. —dv82matt 06:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PBB templates

FYI, just a quick note in response to your edit comment. Absolutely, feel free to remove those templates at whatever point you feel they are not longer useful. Mostly, the templates are there so that gene pages which haven't yet been touched can continue to get periodic updates from Entrez Gene. Cheers, AndrewGNF (talk) 17:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. I was unsure how useful or welcome it would be to edit the gene pages where the automatic update system is in place so I wikilinked ATP1A1 to test the waters so to speak. Thanks for your assurance that I haven't mucked anything up. —dv82matt 04:49, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh absolutely edits to those pages are welcome. Encouraged even. I've been actively trying to steer people (some already on WP, some not) to come edit their favorite gene. In my ideal world, all these gene pages would get to the point where the bot content was a small fraction of information or perhaps even removed altogether. I hope to see your edits on my watchlist again soon! Cheers, AndrewGNF (talk) 05:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vital Articles at 1000!

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		For all your work in paring down Vital articles to 1000 entries. Postmodern Beatnik (talk) 21:25, 15 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Organizations of The Elder Scrolls

I have nominated Organizations of The Elder Scrolls, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Organizations of The Elder Scrolls (2nd nomination). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? J Milburn (talk) 14:15, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:Quality articles

Wikipedia:Quality articles, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Quality articles and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Wikipedia:Quality articles during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs^(talk) 00:08, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox added in Captain Alatriste

This is a stock message to a number of people who have contributed to the article on the ‘’book’’ series of Captain Alatriste as an FYI. I have added a character infobox to the article. If you have time, enter the edit function in article and fill in appropriate information after the = sign. Fill in only what you think applies, but please leave all fields there. If nothing comes after the = sign, then it won’t appear in the article. On the other hand, if someone DOES think the field applies, they can add pertinent info. I do understand that this is technically a series article and not a character article. I’ve added the info box because 1) the series does revolve around Alatriste in large part and 2) the box really does improve what little is on the article right now. If a character article is created, we can copy and paste over. IMHO (talk) 03:12, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stub Sorting: You can help!

Hello Dv82matt. Thank you for tagging Songevatnet as a stub. I noticed that you used the {{stub}} template. In the future, it would be greatly appreciated if you could sort the article to a subcategory by using one of these templates instead. For example, you can use {{US-novelist-1960s-stub}} for an American novelist born in the 1960s. Of course, if you can't find a proper category, you can always use the {{stub}} tag and someone else will sort it for you, or you can propose a new stub template or category here. Thanks!

Gosox⁽⁵⁵⁾₍₅₅₎ 02:05, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Moyle horse

An article that you have been involved in editing, Moyle horse, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Moyle horse. Thank you.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Montanabw^(talk) 17:57, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]