User talk:Elkman/Archive2

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  1. Thank-you notes for RFAs have been archived here.
  2. August 6, 2005 - May 25, 2006

Welcome to Esperanza![edit]

Welcome, Elkman, to Esperanza, the Wikipedia member association! As you might know, all the Esperanzians share one important goal: the success of this encyclopedia. Within that, we then attempt to strengthen the community bonds, and be the "approachable" side of the project. All of our ideals are held in the Charter, the governing document of the association.

Now that you are a member, you might be interested in some of our programs. A quite important program is the StressUnit, which seeks to support editors who have encountered any stress from their Wikipedia events, and are seeking to leave the project. So far, Esperanza can be credited with the support and retention of several users. We have a calendar of special events, member birthdays, and other holidays that you can add to and follow.

In addition to these projects, several more missions of Esperanza are in development, and are currently being created at Esperanza/Possibles.

I encourage you to take an active voice in the running of Esperanza. We have a small government system, headed by our Administrator general, Celestianpower, and guided by the Advisory Committee, Titoxd, JoanneB, and Freakofnurture.

If you have any other questions, concerns, comments, or general ideas, Esperanzian or otherwise, know that you can always contact me by my talk page, Celestianpower by email or talk page, or the Esperanza talk page. Alternatively, you could communicate with fellow users on our IRC channel, #wikipedia-esperanza (which is also good for a fun chat or two :). If you're new to IRC, please see the IRC Tutorial, which was written by one of our members. I thank you for joining Esperanza, and look forward to working with you in making Wikipedia a better place to be!

Thanks! G.He 21:43, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Batman (animated)[edit]

Where is it??--T-man, the wise 22:48, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Then, it's a good thing I've created this article. There is no Bio of Animated Batman, the article you're talking about is about the series, not the character.--T-man, the wise 23:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

No, there is no Biographical info of batman/Bruce Wayne animated --T-man, the wise 01:16, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Seeking Editor Review Commentary (If You Like)[edit]

Hi. In conjunction with my RfA (that you voted on), I have created an editor review, to give people a chance to comment as to ways in which I can branch out or alter my contributions to Wikipedia. An RfA seems to solely focus on how one's temperment and contributions relate to how they might handle administrative powers (and the consensus on that seems to be that I'm not quite ready); the editor review opens things up a little more to a larger focus, and I'd love to hear community feedback in the sense of that larger focus, too. If you feel you've already expressed yourself sufficiently when casting your vote, then by all means don't worry about it, but if any thoughts come to mind or if you'd like to expound upon any suggestions or commentary, it would be appreciated. In any case, I appreciated you taking the time to express your opinion on my RfA, and I thank you for that. — WCityMike (talk • contribs) 19:53, 30 May 2006 (UTC)


Elk for Elkman? Do you get it? Anyhow, keep up the good work on Wikipedia, you've contributed a lot of great edits. :D (another ackward attempt at comedy by TBC) 04:56, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


Here you go with some elkspeak..[1]...don't worry about Redwoods...I'll play with it some more yet and send it off to peer review...there just isn't as much to talk about there as there was for Glacier.--MONGO 00:26, 1 June 2006 (UTC)


Just wanted to thank you for your welcoming comments and warth. That be all. Unidiode 06:31, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


--Bhadani 14:31, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Biking article spam[edit]

You're welcome, and thanks for the thanks-- I mostly get chewed out for this kind of work! Feel free to join the spam fighter brigade. In case you find it useful, I'm pasting in some boilerplate I've worked out for answering spammers who think their links are wonderful:

Please read WP:EL. Basically, Wikipedia is not a link farm. Links should only be added if they have valuable information that does not belong in the article itself and if they are not trying to sell something. If the information in the link does belong it the article, it should be re-written (to avoid copyright issues) and added to the article. In general, articles should have very few links, because very few links fit these criteria. The idea is that we want our articles to be the best possible source of information on a topic, not a short article followed by a long list of links to other articles-- one might as well just google the subject and read the first dozen sites if we are going to assemble long external link lists.

Cheers! -- Mwanner | Talk 18:41, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Drastic refactoring[edit]

You say "a few users seem to be suggesting that signatures should be drastically refactored every time they occur"

Who says this? --Tony Sidaway 12:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

No time spent on good articles is completely wasted[edit]

I for one would like to have more articles on "historic places or bridges in Minnesota". If more people followed your example in writing articles like that and fewer indulged in mad mud-slinging, we could have a really good encyclopædia. Go for it, and don't let the bar-stewards grind you down… HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 22:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Bridges[edit]

I see you're a bit down... I also see you are in the bridges project. People do care about bridges. I do, anyway. I, personally, (and apologies for unsolicited advice!) often find that when I'm stressed out about WP drama, that editing articles is a good way to relieve some of that stress. Your pictures are great, if you have some you haven't added, if there are bridges you want to write about but haven't... please do. Hope that helps, Happy editing... hang in there... ++Lar: t/c 22:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)


I'll get the pictures next time I go through Alexandria. (At least I'll try!) Ksax 15:38, 7 June 2006 (UTC)


I hope your stress evaporates soon. Cheers, Fang Aili talk 14:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC).

Thanks and a question[edit]

Thanks for the friendly welcome - much appreciated! If I may, I'll ask a question. I have been trying to help out with the WP:DPL - and come across an issue. If an article contains a link on a word that goes to a disambiguation page but is really looking for a dictionary definition - see the Reservoir link in Axial_piston_pump for an example - what should you do with it? Remove it entirely? Replace it with a Wiktionary link? Add a whole new Wikipedia page for the definition? Hints or suggestions welcome!

GSV Ethics Gradient 15:02, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:Mnlicenseplate.gif[edit]

An image that you uploaded or altered, Image:Mnlicenseplate.gif, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. Please go to its page to provide the necessary information on the source or licensing of this image (if you have any), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.
The public disclosure policy you cited is about public records. Copyrighted images of the state do not fall into this policy. There needs to be a paragraph that reads like this one from the Illinois state site:

"Information presented on the Secretary of State’s web site is considered public information and may be distributed or copied. Use of appropriate byline/photo/image credit is requested." -Nv8200p talk 15:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


I would like to thank you for noticing and fixing my spelling mistakes on Minnesota State Highway 16. I would have never caught them. --Station Attendant 21:13, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

License plate images[edit]

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Final Warning
Stop reinserting images which have been removed because of legal and fair use concerns. Your actions can be seen as vandalism. If you do one more such edit you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. You may not get another warning before being blocked.

Vandalism and Incivility Warning[edit]

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Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits, such as those you made to User:PatriotFirst, are considered vandalism. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the hard work of others. Thanks.

Please stop[edit]

What you said about certain users on the Wikipedia:Administrators noticeboard is libellous and defamatory. Particularly this: [and defamatory comments]

Do not defame and libel other editors. Your behavior is also considered worse than Wiki-stalking, particularly because it goes beyond the usual policing and spying of editors on Wikipedia. It concerns editors privacy rights off of Wikipedia. This is unfair to Wikipedia, itself, and unfair to the editors involved. Thank you. Additionally, you took the liberty of removing code from my page, without my permission. This also goes against Wiki user page policy. Next time you take the liberty to alter a user's page, I suggest you, politely, ask the user in question first.

Please act civilly with me. Because of your incivility, you are not welcome on my pages again, unless I expressly invite you, which is ulikely under the circumstances. PatriotFirst 23:31, 18 June 2006 (UTC)


I'm sorry to see signs of stress on your user pages. You have made a lot of good contributions, especially to Minnesota articles, and it has been noticed. I hope you return soon. Jonathunder 04:40, 19 June 2006 (UTC)


Thank you very much for recognizing my work on Minnesota politics. I have been trying to import the pictures from that government website you mentioned for a very long time; however, I am quite new to editing, I've only been a member for about 3 months, and pretty much the only thing I can't understand is how to import pictures. Call me stupid, but I need help. Thank you--Rhelmerichs.


Updated DYK query On June 19, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Starrucca Viaduct, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.


I do try to pop into Minnesota articles, but haven't contributed much about the southern part of the state because I'm not that familiar with areas much beyond Fairmont. Even so, I think I can add a few bits here and there, and will contribute what I can. Jay Maynard 21:49, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

There is a straw poll taking place about the article Minnesota taking place here. False Prophet 22:09, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Your missing "E"[edit]

You can register if you'd prefer not to have your signature refactored into a non-Esperanza linked version.
brenneman {L} 00:39, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

What's this?[edit]

We're not having dark thoughts are we lad? - brenneman {L} 02:07, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


I saw in a recent post of yours that your signature is broken, if so you may want to see the directions at Wikipedia:How to fix your signature. — xaosflux Talk 02:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah OK, was trying to help out :) There certainly are MUCH better things to do on here then mess with sigs! — xaosflux Talk 13:53, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

A short Esperanzial update[edit]

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Celestianpower háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

thanks for checking out my Indian Mounds Park contribution[edit]

Well now I've finally figured out how to send a message your way - thanks for checking out and sharing some of your thoughts on my Indian Mounds Park contribution. It was quite awhile back - but I appreciated the feedback.

Minnesota as FA[edit]

I am working on getting Minnesota to Featured article status and could use your help. I know you are interested in transportation, so if you could make that seection of the Minnesota article shine it would be appreciated. Thanks! - Ravedave 04:55, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

see response on Talk:Minnesota -Ravedave 16:18, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

your edit to my talk page about my edit to the talk page of scientology[edit]

{{spoiler|harry potter}}i didnt feel it was nonsence,i really wanted to know what they did besides adding the snape kills dumbledore plot twist.I will marry gollum one day 18:25, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

what i mean is what edits did the ytmnd morons ad?i know they ad the spoilers a lot but what did they do to the pages?I will marry gollum one day 18:57, 28 June 2006 (UTC)


Hi, hope am not imposing on you, but it seems that you are in charge of approving / declining new pages suggestions or have volunteered for this task, and I would like you to decide on my suggested page as above. Regards. 04:50, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Elkman. However, I have been a "Wikipedian", but went out. My two consecutive ids were User:Lucio Mas and User:WikiSceptic. Regards. 16:11, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Climbing the IDS Tower dressed as Batman[edit]

That's crazy talk!

(I hope you got that I was kidding with my "legal threat" comment.) · rodii · 23:01, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

On a related note, I noticed that you've tried to use the WP:NCR userbox. The problem is that you seem to have copy-pasted the code, which has lead to some <includeonly> tags around the category. If you want to be added to the category, you can remove them yourself, or ask me and I'll do it for you. (I don't edit other user's userpages except with permission or to revert vandalism). --ais523 14:24, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

List of museums in the United States[edit]

As you were one of the last notable contributers to this page, you seem most reasonable to ask this queston to. Would it be appropiate to seperate Cleveland from Ohio as Chicago is from Illinois? Cleveland has nearly half of Ohio's museums and List of museums in Cleveland already has its own category page. So, could you please tell me on my talk-Lorty 15:50, 1 July 2006 (UTC)  :)


Thanks for the welcome and possible vague hints contained therein. Snecklifter 08:24, 6 July 2006 (UTC)


One of your edits got messed up, probably the firefox+google toolbar bug, so I reverted. -Ravedave 04:13, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Excellent, that section really needs help, as does the article. I think I may tackle fixing False Prophets crappy sports section, its like 1/4-1/3 of the article and not well written. After that I will just fix up here and there. There is still a *long* way to go for Minnesota to be an FA. -Ravedave 04:33, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Please participate in a straw poll being held about the article Minnesota being held here

There is currently NO!! Bible quotations to support the Catholic and Orthodox view!! WHY will you not allow it?[edit]

Why is there is no more "Bible quoting" allowed in the Catholic Orthodox view on Sin, at least 10 times at least 10 in the later protestant "view" what is the meaning of this, - email me at and tell me what the problem is.! There is currently NO!! Bible quotations to support the Catholic and Orthodox view!! WHY will you not allow it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 14:01, 7 July 2006

  • I'm not responsible for deciding what's allowable on Wikipedia or not. If you feel there's some reason to have those quotations on the page, go ahead and enter them. It's a Wiki, after all -- you can edit anything. Editing the page in question, or the talk page of the article, is probably more productive than asking me to do it. --Elkman - (Elkspeak) 20:06, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

ABC thanks[edit]

Thank you for helping me delete the page on my boss, Adam Belmar. You saved me a lot of pain. Rshaffer 15:57, 13 July 2006 (UTC) Moved from my RFA thanks page

Re: AFD for Patriarchal marriage[edit]

Thanks for the tip about the Head of the household article by User:RyanVG (and sorry about not responding right away; I got distracted). I decided not to nominate Head of the household right now, partly because I'm lazy ;) and partly because I think that, even in its poor current state, it has marginally more potential for improvement than the articles on patriarchal and matriarchal marriage. (It could be expanded into an article with information about different governmental tax collection services' policies on heads of households, religious or societal or economic ideas about heads of households, etc.) I might even attempt some improvement myself, if I suddenly become motivated to do so, but no guarantees. However, the article is pretty bad, and if you or someone else were to nominate it for deletion, I would support the nomination given the current state of the article. —Caesura(t) 19:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi fellow Twin Citian[edit]

You recently posted a standard welcome type post on my talk page - nice to be welcomed by someone from the Twin Cities. By coincidence or by design? (I grew up in the Powderhorn Neighborhood in Minneapolis) --Natalie 01:10, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Re. {{Pool-stub}}[edit]

So sorry about the belated reply, dear Elkman - but please, be bold (if you haven't yet! ;) and modify that template at will. I'm amazed I didn't think of that when I made it. can I leave it in your hands? Have a great week! Hugs, Phædriel tell me - 01:18, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Re: St. Croix Boom Site[edit]

Thanks for the note, I'd be glad to help out however I can on the Minnesota WikiProject... If you'll take a look at the wiki I've launched for the Boundary Waters: The BWCAWiki. :) Cheers. -the dharma bum 22:02, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


I had forgotten about that edit...[2]. Have you been to Banff National Park? Myself and another editor have been working on it some lately to try and get it featured...your additions would be welcome.--MONGO 22:06, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, I'm aware of your ability to edit and your good keep it up. Thanks again.--MONGO 22:25, 17 July 2006 (UTC)


Updated DYK query On 20 July, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article James J. Hill House, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Blnguyen | rant-line 04:13, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Did I miss something?[edit]

I haven't really been paying attention very closely to the naming convention stuff for highways, but did it get decided that all of the state highways should be moved to State Highway XX (State)? I am asking this because I have seen SPUI going around and changing links and marking articles with a tag which indicates that they need to have their name changed to "meet Wikipedia's quality standards". If you have heard anything, could you let me know? --Station Attendant 22:57, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing me up to speed, you wouldn't think that articles about highways would start such a fuss. --Station Attendant 02:52, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Another point, why did SPUI change some articles (Minnesota State Highway 16) and not others (Minnesota State Highway 51)? --Station Attendant 03:18, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

Pink fuzzy bunnies[edit]

Please read WP:POINT. --SPUI (T - C) 05:53, 23 July 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for all of your contributions to road and bridge articles as well as the other things you do for Wikipedia. --Dual Freq 00:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)