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December 2017

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January 2018

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at List of Who Framed Roger Rabbit characters. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been reverted.

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Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continual disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. You don't get to override the AFD closure. Meters (talk) 04:47, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

January 2018

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Blossom, Bubbles, and Buttercup

If you had any real brains, you would KNOW that a comma is needed to separate the last two items in a group. Therefore, your redirect has been reverted. And if most Americans who think the opposite are NOT stupid, Frankie Valli was NOT born in 1934!!!!! Classicalfan626 (talk) 20:47, 29 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you're wondering who I am, I'm someone who has OCD and a good eye for grammatical errors, as well as a minor but negative obsession with The Powerpuff Girls (I hate that show). Classicalfan626 (talk) 19:03, 30 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. ミラ P 16:39, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

September 2019

You have been blocked temporarily from editing for contravening Wikipedia's harassment policy. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

You are blocked for 31 hours as a result of the intimidating and harassing messages discussed at ANI. You are not in a position to issue commands to other editors. You need to stop that behavior. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 17:38, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In light of your past actions surrounding fiction characters and related lists, and your previous ANI discussion and block, I'm here to ask you to stop referring to good faith efforts to follow Wikipedia policies as Vandalism. That you don't like that a list had information removed or a character was merged does not make something vandalism, which is a deliberate bad faith effort to harm the encyclopedia. If you continue, you may earn another block. -- ferret (talk) 02:56, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

January 2020

Please do not add or change content, as you did at List of Mass Effect characters, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. -- ferret (talk) 20:12, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Re: ANI

I'm afraid that Ferret and Izno are in the right here. Wikipedia articles are based on reliable sources. If a reliable source does not exist for a piece of info, we generally don't include it. The same goes for lists of of characters. If we don't have a source that confirms that those characters exist and who they are, we can't include it. Simply listing the characters becasue you've played one of the games represents original research, which is not allowed, because it is not verifiable. Using Fandom or Wikia is not a reliable source, as the content is user-generated. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 22:05, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the above is exactly correct. You need to change your approach immediately. Stop trying to “report” ferret and Izno. Not only are they not doing anything wrong, but you are the one in the wrong with handling this situation. Please work with them to learn what you are doing wrong. If you don’t stop acting so combative with them, your account is going to receive another block. Please, just place nice, and try to learn how the website works. Sergecross73 msg me 22:11, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to say this, loud and clear, once and only once: YOUR POLICIES ARE WRONG. I see them, read them in full, and my response is an unequivocal, emphatic "NO". Stop abusively enforcing them, and stop trying to convince me that these absurd standards are to be accepted; you will accomplish nothing in doing so other than making me increasingly angry. Googinber1234 (talk) 22:17, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Here’s the thing - you’re free to disagree with the policies. But as long as they are in effect, you must follow them. If you don’t like them, make a detailed proposal on how change them. If you get a consensus to change, great, edit accordingly. But until then, follow the current rules. Sergecross73 msg me 22:30, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I am giving the instruction of how to change them right now; I have been this whole time. Googinber1234 (talk) 22:33, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Screaming that the policies are wrong doesn't mean that they are wrong, and it won't cause them to get changed. Reyk _YO! 22:36, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You can’t possibly think that berating two editors separately on their talk pages is the right way to go about changing the rules for the entire website. Comments like that make me concerned you aren’t really ready to be editing Wikipedia at all... Sergecross73 msg me 22:52, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

January 2020

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:37, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have patience for this kind of disruption any more. Given that you have no interest in following our policies, you've been blocked indefinitely. Once you convince an admin that you understand our policies and are willing to follow them, you can be unblocked. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:41, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I was about to do the same thing. Sergecross73 msg me 22:50, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Googinber1234 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

This is incorrect. I absolutely AM here to help build the encyclopedia; my current activity was contribution of on-topic, correct information which was being aggressively removed for no good reason, provoking any behavior on my end that may have been out of line here. This hideous abusive enforcement of broken policies is a huge site-wide problem that I would very much like to draw wide attention to remedying. Googinber1234 (talk) 23:17, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
the block is no longer necessary because you
1. understand what you have been blocked for,
2. will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
3. will make useful contributions instead.

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. -- Deep fried okra 00:07, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

This is fundamentally false. They directly, clearly, and repeatedly gave you a reason for the deletion of your content. You didn’t add a source to verify it. You were not following some of the most basic of policy. Comments like this will never get your account unblocked. Sergecross73 msg me 23:41, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Not having a "reliable source"(sic) for undisputed factual information is not a reason to remove it. Stop harassing me. Googinber1234 (talk) 23:57, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

unblock discussion

I'll return with a more itemized explanation. I'm a slow typer, but in essence, you are quite wrong on a number of points, Sorry I cannot be more helpful.-- Deep fried okra 00:07, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to say this, loud and clear, once and only once: YOUR POLICIES ARE WRONG. I see them, read them in full, and my response is an unequivocal, emphatic "NO". Stop abusively enforcing them, and stop trying to convince me that these absurd standards are to be accepted; you will accomplish nothing in doing so other than making me increasingly angry. I'm sorry, but we are not responsible for your anger. As has already been said, if you cannot abide by our rules, you may not edit here. I don't agree with all of them either. I follow them because I must.-- Deep fried okra 00:10, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose it's meaningless to remind you of this as you refuse to comply. SMDH.
WP:RS ia a guideline. Wikipedia:Civility is a policy. It is one of the Five Pillars of Wikipedia.. To edit here you must at least try to follow it. Your outbursts on this talk page and against other users in other places are at odds with this essential policy. As you have already been told, You are not in a position to issue commands to other editors. You need to stop that behavior.. This is from the prior ANI discussion that lead to your block earlier. Again, and I mean this, as Ferret said I'm here to ask you to stop referring to good faith efforts to follow Wikipedia policies as Vandalism. It is incivil.
Which brings us to recalcitrance. Anyone can have a bad day, speak harshly and rashly, act in an unbecoming manner. I'm sorry, but you must address this issue to be unblocked.
When people labor to explain how we do things and to help you edit more constructively, it is not harassment.

I hope you are able to take all of this in and act upon it. If you will not or can not, you will not be unblocked. Thanks-- Deep fried okra 00:28, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing. I am giving the instruction of how to change them right now; I have been this whole time. To change a policy or guideline requires a WP:consensus building discussion to do so. It will never be accomplished by shouting "you're wrong." Th venues for these discussions can be on the policy/guideline talk page or at the Wikipedia:Village_pump. When in a dispute with other editors, seek WP:dispute resolution. At all times, one must remain polite. "Please" and "thank you" go a long way toward building a collaborative work environment.-- Deep fried okra 04:01, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Googinber1234 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I acknowledge that my brazen statements against larger policies were out of line and will not repeat them in the future, so long as the destructive misuse of the policies in question that made me feel provoked to do so don't persist. I furthermore ask at this time how I should instead go about handling such actions when I encounter them.

Decline reason:

No. This is nowhere near close to an acceptable unblock request. You don't get to set conditions like this. I suggest taking no less than six months off, then applying under WP:SO. At that point, you'll need to demonstrate a completely different approach, if you wish to be unblocked. At the moment, all you are doing is showing conclusively that you are not here to build an encyclopedia. Yamla (talk) 21:44, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Googinber1234 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Stop insinuating that I am "not here to build an encyclopedia"; I was absolutely trying to help build an encyclopedia with the correct edits that were being repeatedly reverted leading to the incidents that provoked the current situation. In the previous response, you also didn't suggest what I actually should be doing as an approach to reasoning this out instead of how my previous message read.

Decline reason:

Not actually an unblock request. El_C 05:38, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Welp, FWIW, the whole "YOUR POLICIES ARE WRONG " stance is a huge obstacle to unblocking you.The subtext of "so long as the destructive misuse of the policies in question that made me feel provoked to do so don't persist" is that you want to feel free to disregard the policies and guidelines the rest of us follow. If that is the case, then there is no point to unblocking you. Perhaps you missed the link to WP:DISPUTE RESOLUTION. When there is a disagreement as to how to edit a page, we discuss changes and sourcing on the article talk page, and then follow the steps at wp:dispute resolution. When one feels "provoked" or otherwise unable to maintain civility and decorum, the best course of action is to step away until one regains one's composure. -- Deep fried okra 05:35, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

> "The subtext of "so long as the destructive misuse of the policies in question that made me feel provoked to do so don't persist" is that you want to feel free to disregard the policies and guidelines the rest of us follow."

That is saying nothing about disregarding policies; I am asking about how I should go about dealing with such actions that deliberately misuse policies as an excuse for vandalism and removal of information as those which provoked me to ranting in this incident. That is a legitimate and relevant question. Googinber1234 (talk) 18:40, 20 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Googinber1234 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

This is again acknowledging my missteps with the intention to use more correct means of dealing with the deliberate obstruction of encyclopedic information in any future encounters with it, again imploring for more specific guidance on how to go about those correct means.

Decline reason:

You continued the same line of reasoning that led to your block in the first place with the comment about "deliberate obstruction". At this point, I'm revoking talk page access as it's clear you are not listening to anything anyone is telling you. I would walk away from 6 months, then post a request at WP:UTRS to see if your talk page access at the least can be reinstated to request your account back. RickinBaltimore (talk) 16:48, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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You're still calling other peoples' actions "vandalism", and "deliberate misuse of policies", and "deliberate obstruction". They weren't. They were quite correct and perfectly in line with our policies, most importantly verifiability. You need to make your peace with the fact that the people you've been yelling at objectively haven't done anything wrong. Your position seems to be that the content polices are bad and wrong, that the people upholding them are evil vandals, and that you'll graciously (but unconvincingly) agree to stop screaming abuse at people so long as they stop being so uppity about proper encyclopedia maintenance. There's no way you're getting unblocked as long as that's your position. You'll sooner lose talk page access entirely. Reyk _YO! 11:02, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

You're mistaken; the users in question were removing entire characters (major ones) from an article specifically dedicated to being a list of characters from the series in question; said characters' names redirect to the article, which according to what these users want does not include them at all. Googinber1234 (talk) 16:12, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

WP:IDHT applies here. I strongly concur with Reyk, you are right on the edge of losing talk page access. You need to completely change your approach, and we need to see immediate evidence of this if you want to retain talk page access. --Yamla (talk) 16:18, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]