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Red October

Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, I haven't been on Wikipedia lately Anyway, the "He was a good ship" quote is located on page 18 of The Cardinal Of Kremlin Hope this helps you

As for your other question, I've read The Hunt for Red October, The Sum Of all Fears,and The Cardinal of The Kremlin (my favorite so far). I started Red Storm Rising before Winter Break and plan on finishing when I go back to school. The only movie adaptation I've seen was of The Hunt For Red October, and I thought it was really well made

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Snape

I confirmed your wording for the epilogue on my Bloomsbury first edition (hardcover). Thought you might like to know. Regards, Magidin (talk) 04:55, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I appreciate you letting me know (and am slightly jealous of your first edition). Princess Lirin (talk) 05:04, 1 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the advice on Santee page

...DevindadDevindad (talk) 16:33, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad you appreciate it! Hope it comes in handy. Princess Lirin (talk) 02:44, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Library of Virginia

I'm new to wikipedia and I'm still learning so I apologize in advance for any protocol errors. Re: Edmund Randolph external link. I used the LVA web site instead of the LVA wiki entry because the finding aid link does not go to our web site; it directs users to Virginia Heritage, a collaborative page for Virginia repositories to post finding aids.

Sic temper tyrannis (talk) 21:10, 10 February 2011 (UTC)Sic temper tyrannis[reply]

Thanks for explaining. Since it's the External Links section, there's no rule against having them there; I just thought it was a bit confusing to have two external links in the same bullet point. But if you think that works, I'll trust your judgment.

Good luck in your Wikipedia endeavors. You're off to a good start. (Let's just say I'm much happier to be reverted by someone like you who has a good reason and explains it than by people who click undo with no explanation.) If you want any suggestions, I would say that you might want to use edit summaries more. Just a quick note like "added link to such-and-such" is always appreciated. Princess Lirin (talk) 21:48, 10 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Disney Princess

Thank you very much for your help in combating OR and other unsourced content at the Disney Princess article. It is becoming frustrating that these people keep adding content without any source and based only on speculation. --LoЯd ۞pεth 07:55, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. As a big Tangled fan, I'm pretty disappointed that Rapunzel isn't listed as a Princess yet, but WP's integrity is much more important. I'm trying to keep an eye on the article, but I haven't gotten the chance to help out too much yet because you're generally right on top of things. Keep up the good work. Princess Lirin (talk) 08:16, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Punctuation

You may want to look up when punctuation is used inside or outside quotation marks. In America, commas and periods are almost always put inside the quotation marks. In the UK, they are placed inside or outside depending on the logic of the sentence. I thought you would be interested. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.198.75.65 (talk) 07:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am quite aware of that, which is why I pointed out your punctuation issues in the first place.

Your recent change to Severus Snape appears to be correct punctuation-wise, but your previous edit there was full of what you would call the American usage, which is generally avoided on Wikipedia per the link I referred you to (WP:LQ). Princess Lirin (talk) 07:29, 18 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You do realize Wikipedia is American. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.198.75.65 (talk) 04:25, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I do realize that Wikipedia was started by Americans, and that the majority of editors of the English Wikipedia are American. However, I also realize that Wikipedia does not automatically use all American spelling and punctuation.

For example, not all Wikipedia articles use American English. Take a look at MOS:ENGVAR, which states that "the English Wikipedia does not prefer any major national variety of the language".

As for punctuation, instead of ascribing to a particular nationality's rules of punctuation, Wikipedia has chosen to list clear guidelines in the Manual of Style. The punctuation guidelines can be seen at MOS:PUNCT, which includes the information on logical punctuation that I told you about earlier, which I do hope you have read by now. Princess Lirin (talk) 05:16, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just to clarify, on Wikipedia some things vary depending on the form of English used, such as date format ("month day, year" vs. "day month year"). However, Wikipedia sets some things that should be used throughout, regardless of whether you are writing in the British or American form of English (or any other form for that matter); logical punctuation is one of them. To quote the Manual of Style: "On Wikipedia, place all punctuation marks inside the quotation marks if they are part of the quoted material and outside if they are not. This practice is sometimes referred to as logical punctuation."

Also, it should be noted that Severus Snape is an article about a Harry Potter character. Harry Potter is a set of books by a British author, so even if Wikipedia used regional variations of punctuation for quotations, it would use the British form (i.e. logical punctuation) per WP:TIES.

P.S. thanks for the heads up Princess Lirin.

Alphathon /'æl.f'æ.θɒn/ ^(talk) 14:26, 26 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Narcissa in Death Eaters article draft

Hi there! I appreciate your comments regarding the move of Narcissa Malfoy's section into the Death Eater article. I took notice of your suggestion and made this draft, to give you and any other interested editor an idea of how the article would look like. Note that, besides the creation of the "Associates" section, I also added a note on Narcissa after the Death Eaters table, using JKR's quote that states she was never an official Death Eater. That should avoid confusion. Feel free to edit the draft and add/remove anything you want. Cheers! --LoЯd ۞pεth 00:36, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad you liked my idea. I've made a couple small changes over on your sandbox draft. There's a couple things else that I noticed but I don't have time now to figure out how to deal with them. First of all, the section "Death Eaters and their crimes" includes Greyback currently. Should that just be straight-out deleted, as long as all the information is in Greyback's section later in the article? We are sure that Greyback is not a Death Eater, right? I don't have the books with me here to check, and when I looked him up over on the HP Wiki I was getting conflicting information, since apparently he wears DE robes or something. And speaking of the HP Wiki, both of the cited sources in Greyback's section are of his article there. I don't think those are appropriate sources, so I guess they should be deleted, but perhaps there would be a way to consult the sources cited in that article or otherwise find better sources to include here.

Anyway, whatever you want to do is fine; it's looking good so far. I'm not sure how much internet access I'll have over the next couple days but I'll try to check in and help out when I can. Princess Lirin (talk) 07:45, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A Elbereth Gilthoniel

Thanks for fixing the botch-up. You learn something new every day. μηδείς (talk) 15:28, 13 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I didn't respond sooner...I was staying in a motel that claimed to have wifi but you could only access it in the lobby. Anyway, thanks for taking my edit so well and I hope you'll find somewhere else to use this editing trick someday. (The more general form is DISPLAYTITLE and if you want to learn more about it take a look at WP:Page name.) Happy editing! Princess Lirin (talk) 03:02, 16 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

hello princess

Hello Princess, I'm Jyotsna.I have read your article about shifting Narcissa Malfoy to the Death eater's section . I too ,thought about that earlier & think that it must be-shifted cause she is mainly associated in their affairs though not being a death eater herself. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jyotsna8 (talk • contribs) 11:27, 20 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad you like the idea. If you have any input or just want to make your support known more noticeably, you could comment on the discussion over on the article talk page. Thanks! Princess Lirin (talk) 00:16, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

RE: baroque music changes

i think you might have made a mistake. i never made any changes to the page in question (i.e, baroque music). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.147.73.130 (talk) 19:01, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The change and associated warning were made over a year ago. Someone with the "95.147.73.130" IP made the change, but the IP has probably been reassigned since then, so that you-the-person-currently-with-the-IP did not make those changes. Don't worry about it, and feel free to edit Wikipedia positively if the opportunity arises. If you want to be sure that you will not be confused with anybody else when editing Wikipedia, you can always create an account. Princess Lirin (talk) 19:57, 21 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Sorry about that edit

Sorry about the edit, that was a slight mistake with the mouse. Hope you like my improvement to the page. :D — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.46.21.1 (talk) 21:27, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Disambig links

Hi Princess Lirin, thanks for the link regarding (disambiguation) suffixes. I knew I'd read something to that effect a while back but couldn't find it. My bad on the edit. TechnoSymbiosis (talk) 06:20, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome, and thanks for not being mad. I'm always worried when I revert someone who is obviously not a vandal and who looks like they're really working hard to improve Wikipedia. Happy editing! Princess Lirin (talk) 06:31, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for letting me know! I filled it out. Princess Lirin (talk) 20:32, 3 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the help

Thanks for your help on Rita Ramnani article. Its hectic to manage 5-6 under-construction articles simultaneously. ASHU^IND 21:41, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome, and good luck. I don't know anything about her (I just ran across the article because of your edit to The Hunt for Gollum), but I'll keep my eyes open for anything else I can help with there. Princess Lirin (talk) 21:43, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Neither do I. I just create all the redlink pages. ASHU^IND 21:55, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A swift barnstar

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		Happened to notice you beating me to a revert, saw your edit history - that's some sterling work with the undo button! Yunshui 雲水 08:57, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much! My first real barnstar...exciting! Princess Lirin (talk) 09:03, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Blakeney

Thanks for your fixes. I don't usually edit disambig uatio pages, so it was helpful that you pointed out that excess navigable links should be avoided. Also thanks for flagging up my bad habit of using hyphens instead of dashes; sometimes I'm just too lazy to type "–" Tigerboy1966 (talk) 08:11, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. Dab pages and en dashes are two of my hobbies around here, so I'm always glad to fix them up. :-) Princess Lirin (talk) 08:16, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Plagiarism"

Hi; I have no problem with the edits you've been doing to Severus Snape, but do note that "plagiarism" is the use someone else's work without attribution. A sentence that is taken from a source, and then footnoted and the source of the quote identified, does not constitute plagiarism, since it has been properly attributed. Regards, Magidin (talk) 03:57, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid that's not true, because the sentence was not in quotation marks, which are part of proper attribution when you are taking words and not just ideas. As Avoiding Plagiarism: Common Forms of Plagiarism, a University of New South Wales website that is linked from WP:PLAGIARISM, states, "Lifting sentences or paragraphs from someone else, even with proper acknowledgement, gives the impression that the idea or information comes from the source cited, but that the phrasing, the choice of words to express it, is your own contribution." Although the citation given was sufficient attribution for the ideas, the fact that the sentence was not in quotation marks implied that the phrasing was written by WP contributors (and therefore, I might add, under Creative Commons licensing), when the words were actually Shawn Adler's. Princess Lirin (talk) 05:15, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It may be part of going "above and beyond" to avoid even the possibility of plagiarism; like I said, I have no problems with the change made. As someone who actually deals with the issue professionally (even to the degree of considering "self-plagiarism"), I find the sentence you quote here a bridge too far (should I now make sure to attribute that phrase to Cornelius Ryan, lest I be guilty of plagiarism by 'lifting a sentence from someone else'? Or to Frederick Browning? Without quotiation marks, I run afoul of that guideline); as written, taken literally, it would even forbid the use of quotations when indicated by quotation marks. Let me also point out that in my experience (as a University professor), University guidelines, especially those aimed at students, almost invariably go well above and beyond what is truly plagiarism in an attempt at creating a kind of "no man's land" around actual plagiarism where students will not even attempt to tread. Magidin (talk) 05:31, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Since the Wikipedia guideline on plagiarism mentions this exact situation as a form of plagiarism (third under WP:PLAGFORM: "Copying from a source acknowledged in a well-placed citation, without in-text attribution"), I maintain that I was not incorrect in using the word "plagiarism" in my edit summary. However, if I find myself in this same situation in the future, I believe I would use a different, less-loaded word, so as to hopefully avoid further controversy. Thank you for your time! Princess Lirin (talk) 04:42, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I must be understanding "in-text attribution" differently, possibly misunderstanding (given that I am not a native speaker). Fair enough! Magidin (talk) 15:45, 16 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you very much! I'm glad to help out! Princess Lirin (talk) 05:50, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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