User talk:Secretlondon/Archive 5

Good to see you back, Secretlondon. It's been too long - your contributions were most certainly missed. Ambi 13:02, 31 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back :) →Raul654 15:09, May 31, 2005 (UTC)

Great to see you here again :) -- sannse (talk) 20:26, 31 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Secretlondon, you left before I arrived, but I've always wanted to meet you. It's great to see you here! Bishonen | talk 21:53, 31 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I arrived not long before you left, but ever since then I have seen your contributions everywhere. It's great to see you return to Wikipedia! — Trilobite (Talk) 21:57, 31 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It really is good to see you back here. Enjoy, stay cool, and if you ever feel stressed, feel free to drop by and kick my talk page around a bit. Filiocht | Blarneyman 08:11, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)

I hope you're able to stay for good this time. Great to see you back. Warofdreams 13:43, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Nice to see you, to see you NICE. G-Man 20:31, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Welcome back. We missed you. :-) James F. (talk) 20:38, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Holy wiki, Batman! Secretlondon's back! I echo Trilobite's remarks and look foward to working with you. With warm regards --Neutrality^talk 06:20, Jun 10, 2005 (UTC)

Hi there, you don't know me but I'm familiar with a lot of your contributions from my few years of anonymous use. It's good to have you back on the project. ps. The picture of pear Tree house isn't there anymore - I really wanted to know what it looked like. illWill 22:12, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I see you're back from your extended leave too - what is it that makes us return? Good to see you back, anyway. -- Francs2000 | Talk [[]] 13:24, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Unless it's at Special:Blockip I don't know either. You could always block them from Recent changes but that depends on you finding the change they've made of course.

Colleboration of the fortnight is Welsh people? (Just saw it on your user page) OMGs... -- Francs2000 | Talk [[]] 13:28, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Welcome back! That's the most pleasant surprise I've had on Wikipedia in a long time! Lupo 14:57, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Welcome back. When User:172 said he was going on hiatus or leaving, they were falling over themselves to remove his admin status.

I think Wikipedia is good for articles like quantum mechanics, but people who think articles like Palestine will ever be NPOV, or fair, or whatnot, are fooling themselves, and will ultimately get frustrated and leave, as you did. I look at people like you and 172 and I see "the cabal" here wasting your time and frustrating your efforts until you give up and leave. That's a win for them, a loss for you.

As I said, I think Wikipedia can always be the source for articles about quantum mechanics and whatnot. But as the old saying goes, when you lie down with the dogs you wake up with fleas. It's no surprise that a western, Ayn Rand reading, millionaire porn[1] magnate who sends nasty notes to his female admins would have a site that looks and acts the way it does with him in control of the means of production. Especially from my perspective as a lowly user, who sees the only admins who might give a damn like you or 172 and so forth constantly quitting in frustration. Wikipedia will always be good for the quantum mechanics articles, and will always be bad for the Palestine articles. It's historical, political, economic and philosophical articles will always be an echo of what the corporate media puts out, except Wikipedia gets people to do all the work for them for free.

It's inevitable that in the domain of contentious issues, specialist wiki's will arise. Many already have - Red Wiki, Anarchopedia, Demopedia, dKosopedia and so forth. Instead of getting frustrated here, I am freely expending my creativity in these places with a like-minded community of people. The only thing it is lacking is a critical mass of users, but my contributions are going to help build that critical mass. I think at the very least, if we write an original article on say the Workers Revolutionary Party, we should put it not only on Wikipedia, but an appropriate specialist wiki, in the case of the WRP, Red Wiki.

Regarding, US-centrism...are you aware that the foundation of all (of the dozens I've checked so far) the historical articles on Wikipedia are on histories written by the US Army? To counter this, I have been working on getting copyright-free translations of the Great Soviet Encyclopedia on the alternative wiki's. The GSE is online actually, but is in Russian. Ruy Lopez 23:56, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Welcome back. I just noticed an edit with your name on it. Ancheta Wis 15:29, 7 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image

Are you sure that Image:IBM microdrive.jpg is in the public domain? The website seems to indicate (via google translate) that it is only noncomercial (which is no longer free). I bring this up because I was about to move it to the commons. Thanks for clearing this up. This link is Broken 04:44, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

UK COTW: Transport in the United Kingdom

Hey, just to let you know, an article you supported, Transport in the United Kingdom, is this week's collaboration. Cheers! -- Joolz 19:21, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I thought of welcoming you back... now I know why I didn't

What the hell is this? Thats no way to conduct yourself, on a volunteer project or anywhere. ¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸ 30 June 2005 13:20 (UTC)

And one can just as easily ask of you What the hell is this? Or point out "thats no way to conduct yourself, on a volunteer project or anywhere." Your hypocrisy never fails to astound, Sam. FeloniousMonk 30 June 2005 17:42 (UTC)

Since when does the incivility of one user vindicate the incivility of another? Please remember Wikipedia:Civility. --Silversmith Hewwo 30 June 2005 20:21 (UTC)

Okay! El_C 3 July 2005 22:38 (UTC)

Nice to see you back

I did not overlap with you before, but I have edited several articles you created. It's nice to see someone who obviously made a big impact on Wikipedia back editing. Guettarda 30 June 2005 17:57 (UTC)

Category:UK Wikipedians

Hi, just to let you know that the list of UK participants at the UK notice board was getting rather long, so I have replaced it with the above category which I have added to your user page. -- Francs2000 | Talk 30 June 2005 20:46 (UTC)

Appreciate your work

We never met in the course of normal editing (I think I became a Wikipedian just after you left) but I came across your articles all over the place. Welcome back, and keep up the good work! Kind regards, — mark ✎ 1 July 2005 12:38 (UTC)

Members of the European parliament

Hi Secretlondon, I notice that you started a category for Dutch members of the European parliament. Is it supposed to be for current parliamentarians only, or would you like to see former members in it too? I am preparing a page for a former member, hence the question. Best, Slinger 2 July 2005 06:46 (UTC)

Here she is!

^_^

Good to see you back! --Merovingian (t) (c) July 8, 2005 07:05 (UTC)

blog links

What's wrong with those links to blogs on 7 July 2005 London bombings? I think providing them can be useful for some readers. KissL 8 July 2005 12:39 (UTC)

There are hundreds of blogs out there. The page is already long, and has lots of links. Secretlondon 8 July 2005 12:41 (UTC)

I found the relevant discussion after a while, so now I understand it totally. Thanks. KissL 8 July 2005 14:12 (UTC)

Big hug

Glad to see you back! It wasn't the same with you not around. -- ChrisO 8 July 2005 12:39 (UTC)

Thanks! :D -- ChrisO 8 July 2005 22:46 (UTC)

Whoa, welcome back. I just happened to stumble on a page with your name in the history and I had to do a double-take on the date. :) --Golbez July 9, 2005 10:03 (UTC)

Just noticed youre back and decided to leave you a small hello with wishes of a stress-free wiki-life. Cheers, muriel@pt 08:52, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

UK COTW: Winter of Discontent

Just to let you know, an article you've voted for, has became this week's UKCOTW - Winter of Discontent. Cheers -- Joolz 19:06, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Charva, Ned, etc

Although these articles are God-awful at the moment, there are other people than you working against classism - some of whom have commented on the charva VfD. For instance, User:chocolateboy has helpfully argued against the inclusion of any unsourced stereotypes in the chav article, and, while by no means good, the article is a clear improvement on charva. Give it time, and we can overcome class hatred ;) Warofdreams 17:22, 21 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Brunswick Centre photos

Hi Secretlondon,

You uploaded these black and white photos last March. Though I can see the dystopian logic in depicting the Brunswick Centre in this way – this one I particularly like – it would be nice to have the originals on here if possible. I'm tempted to upload a new image but thought I'd seek your thoughts first. Flowerparty 14:18, 23 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I'll leave it for now then. With these photos I don't suppose the colour ones look much different anyway. The Brunswick seems to be undergoing some drastic renovation work just now and that Safeways is no longer there, so eventually they might need updating. As an aside, only two of these are in black and white? Flowerparty ^talk 14:52, 24 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

UKCOTW: Cornish people

Just to let you know, an article you've voted for, has became this week's UKCOTW - Cornish people. Come and help out! Cheers -- Joolz 19:26, 24 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Back

Thank God that you're back!! I will now desist from further naughty behaviour, even though you left before I joined. Thanks again. --Zippydeedoodah 22:24, 31 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sadness

Hah. Even if I am drunk on German cider? :)

i would sign but i can´t find the tilde on this keyboard...

Question

Secret, I cannot help but feel that you intended your comment on Stevertigo's page, in which you refer to admins ("idiots") who seem to prefer if not enjoy banning, to refer to me in particular and the three other admins who blocked Stevertigo for a gross violation of the three-revert rule and then futher reverting a protected page. I reinstated the block because I thought it justified, and because had any non-admin been blocked under the circumstances there would have been no debate over allowing the block to run its course. I'm concerned that you seem to be condoning a lone admin's high-handed flouting of policy, convention, and civility. Stating that admins are not above the law is perhaps an example of rhetorical excess, but I was quite frankly stunned that Steve would continually unblock himself because he felt that the rules did not apply to him. I'd never encountered such behavior in my two years here.

In any case, this comment has become rather long, but I sought an opportunity both to explain my actions and to seek an explanation for a comment which I found both wounding and somewhat mysterious. Best, Mackensen (talk) 22:26, 7 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Proving comfort to someone behaving out of character and under stress isn't condoning all behaviour from them. Kicking someone when they are behaving like this is counter productive. I find that some admins block more frequently and earlier than I do. I consider blocking very much a last resort. Secretlondon 11:01, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

NSW Schools

Blocking a whole country's schools is utterly appalling. Is the damage caused really worth this heavy handed response? Secretlondon 14:44, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

In short, yes. You have no idea how hard it has been dealing with the repeat vandalism from these IP's and even though nobody wants to do it, it seems that nothing short of a long term block will stem the tide of vandalisms, at least until a way is implemented to cut down the blocks to only specific zones where fewer or no innocent editors will be blocked. Jtkiefer ^{T | @ | C} ----- 22:48, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

Desyst

That would be nice. -St|eve 19:39, 8 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ahoy!

Ahoy, matey! I can't believe I'm just now noticing that you've returned! I guess I kind-of left for a while myself, though informally. In any case, I'm terribly happy to see you back around here. Doing name changes or something, I saw? Nice. Anyhow, see you around, comrade. BLANKFAZE | (что??) 00:49, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming

Okay, I have chosen a new username to be renamed to, go to the Changing Username page and you'll see it. Okay thanks bye Wikipedia Username 18:10, 10 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Vonnegut.jpg

Image deletion warning

Image:Vonnegut.jpg has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. If you feel that this image should not be deleted, please go there to voice your opinion.

Albright

wow, was that some kinda secret Korean? Kyle Andrew Brown 23:46, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

UKCOTW: History of the Orkney Islands

Just to let you know, an article you've voted for, has became this week's UKCOTW - History of the Orkney Islands. Come and help out! Cheers -- Joolz 21:36, 21 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Oriel Tie.jpg & Image:Oriel Arms.gif

Tie - I'll mark for deletion, I had forgotten I'd bothered with it, I didn't use it, it links nowhere, and it's...boring. In the end I preferred a written description. Arms - I think I've got the tag right on that now, if you'd care to review. Thanks. Alf 20:12, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image:GropeLane.jpg

(It's busy in the piccy department today) Are we sorted on the right tag for usage on this one yet? Alf 00:26, 24 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

sweet. Alf 00:52, 24 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Human Rights Servey on Wikipedia (The final post of I_sterbinski)

Dear all,

Wikipedia was recently a subject of intensive research of an huge international human right organization. A team of people from different nationalities and ages were acting on Wikipedia for 20 days, investigating previously noted anomalities of Wikipedia free editing and forming a final report, which (between the others similar reports) will later be a guide to all future moves of the organization concerning Wikipedia. Acting under an account of a real person, their privacy is to be held private. Therefore, very few private information will be revealed.

Also, this is a result of the lack of final possition of the organization concerning Wikipedia and human rights, which was still not formed.

The team's final post on Wikipedia, where they explain their actions can be found on the following addresses:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:I_sterbinski

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Macedonia#Human_Rights_Servey_on_Wikipedia_.28The_final_post_of_I_sterbinski.29

The team would like to thank to all the persons who took part in the correspondence with us.

We also want to appologise for keeping our identity secret for a longer period.

Best regards,

Aleksandar, Biljana, Asparuh, Christos, Valjon, Michael and Ana Luiza

I sterbinski 01:42, 28 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hey

Hey, Secretlondon, can you please change my user name from Dbraceyrules to User:V. Molotov, thanks.

Have a barnstar too:

Take care, D. J. Bracey (talk) 18:26, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

ooh bribery! Secret london 18:27, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I was just trying to be kind. You emphatically stated that you wanted zero stress, will you do it please? :) Take care, D. J. Bracey (talk)

19:07, 30 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for changing my user name! V. Molotov (talk) 00:07, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, that was me ;) →Raul654 00:10, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

PS - you might want to change your sig, which is still going to your old userpage (which is now a redirect). →Raul654 00:11, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

:O who gave you that saint barnstar, that refers to WP:CCW. I guess we better add you to our saints. R e dwolf24 (talk) 04:52, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Someone who was trying to get me to change their name before other people who had been waiting longer. He appears to hand them out like smarties anyway. Secret london 13:58, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No reason to get angry. V. Molotov (talk)

14:15, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I really didn't know others had been waiting, sorry. V. Molotov (talk) 14:15, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard

I have created a new project page at Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard, which you suggested that I tell my fellow bureaucrats about. It's designed as a forum where users with bureaucrat rights can discuss difficult situations, either beforehand (for advice about what to do) or after taking action (for review and feedback). It's similar to another page I created, which is starting to catch on (e.g., Jimbo used it this month): Wikipedia:account suspensions, which is not for 3RR or simple vandalism but for close calls and disputed blocks.

Please take a look at these new project pages and give some feedback. Good idea? Bad? Needs improvement? --Uncle Ed 12:18, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

Somethin nice to read

Hey, SL, once you get your nose back to ground level, how about you read this.

V. Molotov

20:34, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

This is into reference, not only about your rudeness directed toward me, but to others as well. (i.e. not even having the courtesy to tell me that Raul654, not you, changed my username. And that statement about me passing out barnstars out like "smarties")

V. Molotov

20:37, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

Considering your comments a day earlier here, I'm a bit surprised you're not just letting it go, D.J. El_C 22:44, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Meetup

Heya,

Just a quick note to remind you of the London Meetup this coming Sunday (the 11th of September) that you signed up for (as 'probable', so hopefully it's just a small push to get you to 'definite' ;-)). It's at the Archery Tavern, just next to Lancaster Gate tube station, from 13:00 (BST) onwards.

Looking forward to seeing you there.

Yours,

James F. (talk) 14:03, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Cricket no pic.png

Makes sense to me. :) We were scratching our heads for the best way to say this -- no idea why we didn't come up with 'freely licensed', which is simple and clear. --Ngb^?!? 07:50, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

the/a/an

Yeah, I know, what are you referring to in particular? Jooler 17:37, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ah.. the FA. Well in this instance, that rule doesn't apply. see Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(definite_and_indefinite_articles_at_beginning_of_name)#Official_names Jooler 17:42, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

iTunes external link

I noticed that you recently edited the iTunes article and I was hoping you might be able to offer an objective opinion here. As you can see, there is controversy concerning the issue. However, I was hoping the external article (http://www.ON.com/articles/articles.php?aid=34) might be considered on its merits, not on suspicions of my motivations. Again, your comment/vote would be appreciated. Thanks. Uriah923 15:23, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, reverting the talk messages wasn't the greatest idea, but if you were familiar with the user's history and reallized I had warned him very explicitly about doing exactly that and there was a strong consensus against the user adding those links, it all might be a little clearer. I suggest removing at least the link above because it is very clear he is just pasting that everywhere he can to get as many links to his site as he can. - Taxman ^Talk 17:43, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Uriah is taking every opportunity he can to get links to ON into Wikipedia. Even his posting the link here is such an attempt. He has never done anything of substance on Wikipedia other than attempt to post links to ON and draw out precious editor resources in debates with him about whether this linkspam should be allowed or not. We're past suspicions of his motivations. He clearly has zero desire to build an encyclopedia and every desire to promote ON. Jdavidb 18:03, 16 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

blog spam

Please help me with your comment about "spamming links to my blog everywhere." I know this can be an irritant, but I've added links at only three or four entries (that's not "everywhere") and only directly to articles I wrote and carefully researched that were directly relevant to, and informative about, the topic. The alternative would be to put all that content into the original entries and I wouldn't do that. They are legitimate links to external articles and, on those subjects, I'm qualified to write them. I use my blog as a news site to publish articles, not for lots of first-person musings. If you think that the content of those linked articles is not relevant to and does not inform on the subject, please let me know. Thanks.... --langohio 00:26, 20 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

South kentish Town

No problem taking that picture; thanks for annotating my pictures. Been far too busy since the wikimeet, trying to get less so... Justinc 01:14, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Shibuya-kei

It means "Shibuya style". Shibuya, obviously, is self-referential. The "-kei" is "keitai", or "a reference point (ie, style) far from the original" (meaning it's far different from traditional Jpop). Hope this helps.--Mitsukai 20:22, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Image Tagging

Thanks for the notice; I uploaded that image when I was new to Wikipedia. I've deleted it now. Thanks again. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | W_S 19:43, 24 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

UK roadsigns

Hi Secretlondon. I'm about to start clearing out Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2005 September 19 (an hour early!) which includes a large number of UK roadsigns. You say they are under the most restrictive form of Crown Copyright and, from reading the ToU on the website, I'd say we certainly can't use them without applying for a licenses. Since noone has done so within the standard 7 days, I think they are deleteable, regrettably. Just before I embark on them, and get nailed to the wall for it, I wonder if you would confirm that you still hold the opinion that they must go? -Splash^talk 22:47, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I'll remove them when/if I get to them. At a random sample they appear to be unused so it shouldn't actually upset anyone. Much.-Splash^talk 23:13, 26 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, how sure are you of these being copyright vios? Are they online somewhere else? The reason I ask is that I created a whole bunch of road sign images for the Republic of Ireland, and these seemed to have been done in a similar fashion. I had assumed someone had taken my lead and produced ones in a similar fashion for the UK - you will note that the presentation of my images at Road signs in the Republic of Ireland is very similar to how the anon contributer arranged the UK signs.

Regards,

zoney ♣ talk 22:49, 28 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

PA pictures

Remember them? Wikipedia:Pictures_from_PA_Photos_Ltd You were once the custodian of the keys to the PA website according to the notes. Anyway lots of them werent being used, and some have been replaced, so I thought I would ifd them all as the terms of use were so unfree, and they werent that good anyway. Just thought I should let you know as you uploaded most of them. Oh and I just noticed that Stockwell Bus Garage is missing from the world inside, must fix it. Justinc 00:04, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Pixelquelle

Thanks for dropping me the notice. I uploaded the images a long time ago when it still was an acceptable license. Now I completely support their deletion. Good work cleaning up Wikipedia. Thanks -- Chris 73 Talk 18:32, 27 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Montecito image copyright

Hi,

I read your message to me regarding the copyright status of images in the Montecito article. I put a fair use policy tag to each and indicated the copyright owner Intel, and the source. I would like to ask you to check whether it is OK. Note, that these pictures went public after Intel engineers presented them at the International Solid State Circuit Conference this year, but I don't know there actual legal status. If it counts, my guess would be that using them is "fair" (not in legal terms), they promote an Intel product as a part of a non-profit effort, wikipedia.

Thank you for your time!

Image needed

A request for an image has been put out for Aylesbury Estate in Walworth - would you be able to help preserve a bit of it before Southwark Council demolish the lot? Thanks in advance. -- Francs 2000 22:43, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes easily - it's in walking distance. We'll have a couple of years anyway. Secret london 22:53, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. -- Francs 2000

22:54, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image Question

Hi, I need to upload a few images. Obviously it's my first time. I would like to use a gfdl tag with free use but it says gfdl is for text only. What do I use? Joe I 22:38, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Mescaline1.jpg

Thanks for the notice. I copied the image from the german wiki, but since they now state that it is no longer PD, the image should be deleted here, too. Please go ahead and delete it. Happy editing. -- Chris 73 Talk 20:16, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I also cannot verify now if the image is PD or not, since the source page is gone. To delete or not to delete... either way is fine by me. -- Chris 73 Talk 20:33, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Eternal_Darkness-_Sanity's_Requiem,_Ulyaoth_Rune.png

Question -- I made a series of these images (in Flash). They are imitations of symbols from a video game. Since I made the graphics 'from scratch' but modeled it after something that I expect is 'copyrighted', what exactly would I denote these as?? ParallaxTZ 23:09, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

UKCOTW: Hungerford massacre

Just to let you know, an article you've voted for has became this week's UKCOTW - Hungerford massacre. Come and help out! Cheers -- Joolz 21:48, 5 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia UK meeting

Hi Secretlondon, there will probably be a meeting for the purpose of discussing Wikimedia UK this Sunday, which you might like to attend. You could add your name there if so. Cormaggio ^@ 23:54, 5 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Dodgy image

It was a nice welcome message for user talk pages, whether they understood it or not, although it's been quite a while since I used the image anywhere. Delete it or don't. I don't care either way. — BRIAN0918 • 2005-10-15 15:37

It's illegal. Secret london 15:39, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Historical question

Alas about nothing historically interesting (like The Metropolitan Drinking Fountain and Cattle Trough Association which I had a sudden urge to write (but I cant find any cattle troughts to take pictures of). Once on 16 January 2004 you created the {{copyrighted}} template, which later {{permission}} got redirected to. Your initial wording was "This image is copyrighted, and used with permission. No third party use is allowed." but all the old images I find with this (currently hard to find specifically as indistinguishable from permission in the category) have no evidence of permission at all. Some (well one) people have complained when I ifd'd their pictures with this tag. I was wondering whether to move things around so copyrighted pointed at something that said delete and permission (which is most of them) said what copyrighted does now, but some ancient history might be useful. It may not matter though, as once the current ifds go through and if I move the boats out of permission there wont be much left anyway. Anyway would be nice to see you again sometime, was wondering about organising a London wiki photo meetup one weekend. Justinc 00:10, 17 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

London stations

Hello and thanks for your message. I've made some changes to Brixton to add map sources and also live departures to the box as this is being rolled out by TfL at the moment and already exists for National Rail services. Adding this template to those stations will remove the need for the information going in the external links section. I don't see the infobox and line nav box having that much to do with each other - they provide different functions. The infobox tells you about the stations location, who it is managed by and how is busy/important it is (platforms & usage data) while the nav line box is more a navigation tool for adjacent stations and line guides. Mrsteviec 05:49, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright on County Crests

According to the Chief Herald of Ireland, the only time a copyright violation occurs on a county or city crest in Ireland is if one organisation or person uses it in order to falsely represent the authority it was vested in. Display for all other information purposes is fully permitted. The source for these images is the Government of Ireland - I will add the appropriate tags. LocGov 13:54 21 October 2005

Thank you, I will add that tag to future uploads. LocGov 14:06 21 October 2005

Response on WP:AN/I

I followed policy(as shown in Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Pigsonthewing), Pigs had 3RRs on two days(he was not blocked because G-man made it ambiguous whether or not Pigs caused the 3RRs or if both were, guilty of 3RR, so I protected the page and asked for a compromise on the talk page. Apparently it was reached by both sides, Pigs ignored it, and unilaterally reverted it. He will do so again and again if he does not learn to work with others, and the only reason I asked for comment here is because I was unsure if this ban would only lead to another ban in the future, and if he does violate Policy 4 on Key Policies at WP:RULES again, I'll block him for longer, if not indefinately. All I want is for him to learn how to be civil and contribute to Wikipedia. If he cannot do the former, he cannot do the latter. I've seen no reason to stop watching over that article, as at this point, i'm fairly sure that Pigs will cause more problems there and elsewhere, and I request London apologize for his insensitive remarks regarding my disability. Karmafist 13:27, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The above is a tissue of lies, in keeping with the other lies and personal attacks Karmafist has been posting about me. Please take the time to look at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive757#Threat, Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Pigsonthewing, Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Abuse of admin powers by Karmafist and related edits. Thank you. Andy Mabbett 16:06, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Isokon building

Have added a picture. Might be able to get a better one once the leaves have fallen off the trees in front of it. Justinc 16:59, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Template/Workshop

You, or any Wikipedia user, can contribute your suggestions and comments to the /Workshop page of any active arbitration case. Comments on evidence or proposals can help in understanding the import of evidence and in refining proposals. Proposed principles, findings of fact, or remedies may be listed on /Proposed decision and form part of the final decision. Fred Bauder 19:14, 26 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

UK COTW: Classical music of the United Kingdom

Just to let you know, an article you've voted for, has became this fortnight's UKCOTW - Classical music of the United Kingdom. Come and help out! Thanks, Francs 2000 23:35, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image questions

A user, Harro5 (talk), recently asked me a question about image tagging. I tried to explain some stuff to him, but not being an image expert myself, am wary of my advice. Would you mind heading over to his talk page to see if you need to clarify anything I said. Or if not you, could you point me in the direction of some image experts? Thanks. --LV ^{(Dark Mark)} 14:37, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hoodie Image

What lincense do I use for my File:Hoodiebrown.jpg image?

User:Andman8

I don't know. Why did you think we could use it? Wikipedia:Copyrights says what we can use. Secretlondon 17:25, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Image:Guaka-GTRSHV-23kbps.ogg has been listed for deletion

That's what I see on my Talk page now. I'm not very active at the moment, and I can't find the reason(s) for deletion without opening 30 different pages. Maybe you can tell write? Guaka 16:33, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Leeds / Reading

Hey thanks for the pointer on the whole copying/pasting issue. I've replied to your post :)

Your broken signature

See Help:Preferences#Your_nickname for how to fix it. Uncle G 00:18, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Secretlondon 14:48, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Lobelia

Hi secret,

you once started an article Lobelia as a genus in the family Lobeliaceae, but there seems also to be a genus lobelia in the family Campanulaceae.

Is it something for you to sort this out?

TeunSpaans 18:08, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

User:User:Pigsonthewing

That's who you blocked. :)--Shanel 01:46, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

whoops... Secretlondon 02:33, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pigsonthewing block

Hey, could you read Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Talrias, where I did a similar thing to another editor? FWIW, I support your actions here. Talrias (t | e | c) 02:34, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AMA

Hello, you are receiving this message because your name is on the list of members of the Association of Members' Advocates. There is a poll being held at Wikipedia talk:Association of Members' Advocates for approval of a proposal for the revitalisation of the association. You are eligible to vote and your vote and input are welcome. Izehar 22:29, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

m:Wikimedia UK

I noticed that you have not yet commented on the mailing list or Meta page about whether you want to come to the next meeting, and if so when you would be able to make it. There is a signup sheet at m:Wikimedia UK#Next meeting which it would be great if you could add your signature to sooner rather than later so we can get things moving. Thryduulf 21:54, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I never look at meta. Commented now. I didn't know there was a mailing list. Secretlondon 12:24, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Appleyard incident

As per the conversation on the Admins' noticeboard, I suggest you get into contact with the real Adrian Appleyard on bigfooty at gmail dot com. Rogerthat 07:38, 17 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My signature

Sorry you feel it was inappropriate, but I will continue to sign my emails in this manner when I am complaining about the actions of foolish radio DJs. I am a Wikipedia administrator, I might not have written on your behalf, but I was writing on my behalf. I have not mislead anyone. Got a problem with it, take it up with the Wikimedia board or Jimbo himself. - Ta bu shi da yu 14:53, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

OK, it's been pointed out to me that this sounds rantish. However, my original point stands: I didn't go out of my way to represent you, I merely stated that I was a Wikipedia administrator. I will change my sig in future to Wikipedia volutantary administrator. - Ta bu shi da yu 15:07, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A new box for you :) --Admrb♉ltz (T | C) 09:27, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you edit irismeister's user page?

This is what banning now means? If so, remember:
"First they steal from you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win."

Ambergris

My apologies. I skimmed over Australian copyright statues law and made a big mistake, Gov. images have to be 50 years old to be PD. I tagged the image and template as speedy as I'm the sole creator. thx for noticing —This user has left wikipedia 05:20 2006-01-26

While You're Busy Vandalizing User Pages...

... You should perhaps understand the following sentences in English
: 01. If justice were a threat for you, then what would lack of justice be?
02. You must take legal responsibility for libel and censorship
03. You can't delete evidence for censorship you just offered

YOU TAKE PERSONAL LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR LIBEL AND CENSORSHIP BY VANDALIZING INCONVENIENT USER PAGES
DO NOT TRUST JIMBO's MONEY!

You'll never get unblocked at this rate. I guess you just want to be disruptive now. 20:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Images on commons

Hi! I was going through the articles on Scheduled Ancient Monuments looking for photos on the commons to place in a new category there, when I found your photo of Winchester Palace. I saw that this had been moved to the commons so I deleted the wikipedia version on the assumption that you were not an admin and could not do this yourself. After deleting it I noticed that you are in fact and admin, and also that you have a number of photos that you have moved to the commons but not deleted the wikipedia versions. I was just wondering if there was a reason for this—and if there is a reason then I apologise for deleting the Winchester Palace photo. JeremyA 16:18, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When I uploaded them to commons it seemed like the policy was to leave them on en too. I've no idea if it has changed or whether it makes a lot of difference. I'll have a look and delete them if needed/wanted. Secretlondon 18:05, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Long waiting list for nick changes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Changing_username#Requests_to_usurp_an_existing_account_with_no_edits

I noticed that you haven't done any requests on that list for quiet a while.

Regards.

User:Australia boy and image copyrights

He keeps adding misleading tags to images. Now he re-labeled Image:MJClouthier.jpg as public domain still without any evidence. I'm a bit troubled because otherwise he's a good contributor, but we shouldn't be doing his homework for him. -- Run e Welsh | ταλκ 15:28, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]