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Could this user stop sending me the "practical joke" page. It's annoying and I will report abuse if it keeps up. And another thing, this was a problem that never invovled you anyway. So please refrain from jumping in a problem which has nothing to do with you! Discuss your issues with me if you would like, but other than that...please jump off.

Could this user explain what the hell this is: ?

Thank you for removing valuable content.

Shanel really needs to take it about getting a real job or better yet a life? I know sitting at home all day defending poor old little wikipedia boosts your self-worth but please stop sending me your petty little messages. I will edit whatever I want to, regaurdless of vandalism. Why is what I revise/edit considered vandalism? I guess anyone on here who edits/revises anything is also vandalising. So please step off of my nutsack. Thanks

Shanel, my dear. I am not vandalizing anything. Wikipedia is not the locale for anti-Doolittle (or pro-Doolittle, or anti-anybody)campaigning. I have tried gentle edits to make the page less biased and more objective; I have tried adding material. In each case, my edits get changed back to a silly anti-Doolittle diatribe. Seems to me it makes the most sense to just clear it, and leave bare-boned facts. Write a reasonably balanced entry, no one will object. - Overacker.

I put this on your user page, but it should be on user:talk:

Can you please explain what you are doing with SNI ?

This is an important entry, did you read the talk page ?

Please FIRST restore the deletion, and THEN discuss with me what your opinion is.

There is no violation of copyrights or whatever.

This is very exasperating to me.

"Benon" started this, without consulting first.

PM. Why do you sent me a "practical joke" message, which isn't a message ? Ah, it must be a practical joke !

PM. Now I re-edited the SNI page. Please consult me about your plans for doing something now. Please 'don't bite newcomers'.

Colignatus 15:57, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Co-sign on everything you said! How many times did this broad (dude?) edit MY OWN TALK PAGE in the defense that I was "vandalizing" it? You can vandalize your own user page? That's news to me!
Being a Wiki admin - apparently, the rush is better than sex, booze OR drugs. Jennifer 05:21, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Actually, you don't own your userpage (and even less so your user talk), so it was vandalism. BTW, warned for violating WP:NPA. -- 05:23, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Oh, by the way, GENIUS. No one ever said that I can't blank my talk page (why wouldn't I? Not like anything on there was important). Jennifer 05:26, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Actually, there were warnings on there, which you're NOT allowed to blank. -- 05:29, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
1) Like I said, nothing important on my user page.
2) Thanks for letting me know that when the page was unlocked dumb ass, Skippy. Jennifer 05:31, 16 March 2006 (UTC)



hey Shanel, as a neutral administrator,i wanted to warn you about the POV pusher Khoikhoi is being requested for adminship. you can vote here (Metb82 14:39, 26 March 2006 (UTC))

Greetings. I have pos(t)ed questions regarding the recent deletion of an article here. I would appreciate a response, if you have the time. Validusername 03:59, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Hi cutie, this kinda annoyed me. just letting you know.

--T-man... ""worst vandal ever"" 01:55, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I agree, but you know why I did it. I'm sorry I did't think to ask you to do me the favor before, but can you modify DA's link to something that doens't remind me of him? "DA" wouldn't made it for me either, neither would The guy, or That guy or something like that. Didn't I tell you about this before? Like while doing those changes, I think. Anyhow, that doesnt justify what that user did, and it felt invasive, and obnoxious. Not that it is a big deal, but I'm just reporting. This is my new style of dealing with that kind of people.--T-man... ""worst vandal ever"" 02:23, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

You got me wrong. I meant his name on a comment made by yourself. Remember that removing DA's comments from my regular talk page also makes it easy for arbytrators to analize the interaction he made with me on my t.p.--T-man... ""worst vandal ever"" 02:58, 25 February 2006 (UTC) Uh, and Turnstep learned from Mozzerati and Steve Block, that (again, according to mozzerati) kind of changes to remove attacks and keep peace area aloud and even encouraged (check Mozzerati's talk page archive before feb 19, [1])... Of course, in this case is not a WP:PA, but it content a couple of words I feel hostile, my edit didn't harm the contents meaning, it was made among friends, and by the "owner" (don't know the proper word, here) of the page. Turnstep went agaisnt what he just learn (why the hell did he noticed what Mozzerati did, anyways??)

You are the Best!!--T-man... ""worst vandal ever"" 04:34, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

6,000th edit[edit]

Since you got my 5,000th, and since you're a great mentor, you once again get a milestone edit, 6,000! Besides, I had to fill up your talk page with something :D --lightdarkness (talk) 19:39, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

A note from the Admin Coaching coordinator[edit]

Hello, coaches. As you can see, there is a significant backlog at the Esperanza Admin Coaching program. Since we do not want users to have to wait forever to get assigned, I'm asking all of you for a status report. If you feel that you are done, that your coachee is not active enough, or that you could handle the extra load from another coachee, please tell me in my talk page as soon as possible. Thanks! Titoxd(?!? - help us) 06:51, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Admin Coaching[edit]

Hello Shanel!!! I can't wait for my admin coaching to begin! There is just so much stuff that I don't know, that I am eager to learn more! I really appreciate your assistance in helping me leern more! But please be patient as I have leanred most of what I know via trial and error! :* (Arundhati Bakshi (talkcontribs)) 00:18, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Cute Blocked icon :)[edit]

I like it! re: Image:Nuvola apps kblackbox.png TransUtopian 04:41, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Appreciative message dispatched. :) TransUtopian 05:07, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

Jeremy Rosenfeld[edit]

I noticed that in the deletion log, when you deleted this article, it links to the first AfD (where the decision was keep), rather than the second. You might want to chang it, if you can, in order to prevent future screaming of foul play, to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jeremy Rosenfeld 2. Makemi 16:25, 1 March 2006 (UTC)


for reverting my latest fan.Mikereichold 21:03, 1 March 2006 (UTC)


Clever practical joke! =)

Madangry 22:22, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

  • simply hilarious!!!

Madangry 22:28, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I just love[edit]

The addition of meat on your userpage: very nice?!? ;) Anyway down to business: KnowledgeOfSelf 20:18, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Resilient Barnstar.png The Resilient Barnstar
For always being able to take your lumps, with a smile I KOS award you this pretty little star looking thing.

You're not the boss of me. I hax0red your discussion page.

Today's my birthday![edit]

Please leave a message on my talk page to happify me. Sceptre (Talk) 10:06, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


I didn't reven noticed that we already reverted eachother over time! Sorry about that. Anyway, what is the blanking template name, so I can add it to my js file?Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 03:42, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

2a...duh...nevermind.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 03:50, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

Cyberduck icon.png

Thank you for your support in my request for adminship. I'm delighted that the RfA succeeded with a final consensus of 52/17/7, and receiving comments including having 'excellent potential to become a great moderator', and I am now an administrator. It did however only just pass, and I shall do my very best to rectify any of my errors, including the general belief that I should do more article work. If you have any concerns, or if you ever feel that I may be able to help you, please feel free to leave a message on my talk page. Again, thank you!

Ian13/talk 19:29, 4 March 2006 (UTC)


Yeah, I go to Iona Catholic Secondary School; 12th Grade. You?Pinkfloydfan 20:35, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Cool; I prefer to keep my name private, but you could probably guess at who I am.

Messianic prophecy[edit]

Re your message on my talk page.

Read the Talk:Messianic_prophecies CAN WE AGREE section and look through the History of the Messianic prophecies article. We are in the process of a major reorganization. Also see Messianic prophecies (disambiguation).

The real problem is that there is a guy in a Baha'i-offshoot cult who loaded up the Messianic prophecies article with a bunch of seriously POV-violative stuff on the theory "As long as the source is verifiable it does not violate POV." When I removed it for POV he went ballistic. Other people have had the same problem with him. He sticks his cult stuff into all sorts of articles. To get him to stop in the Messianic prophecies article we agreed to create a bunch of messianic prophecies pages plus a (concept of) Messianic prophecy article, so he could put all his POV stuff in the page for his cult's views. (I didn't tell him that was my reason for proposing that solution. Presumably, he won't mess with the other ones.)

The Messianic prophecies page was written first. There was no article simply explaining messianic prophecy as a concept. I just wrote that article last week. Now that there is a "concept" article, a lot of the background material can be removed from other MP articles. Eventually "Messianic Prophecies" will redirect to the disambiguation page.

Currently I am designing a template for all the Messianic Prophecies (specific religion) articles. Also, I am involved in a dispute involving the Messianic Judaism article and a related article, so those plus some work-related things are taking up most of my time.

You know, we could say the exact same thing about you. ems 03:43, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


I swear the last thing I wanted to do was come within even an inch of wheel warring, but I brought this page back after you userfied it. I deleted it myself after it was recreated as an article but the author strongly objected even after I tried to convince him. He also brought up some new evidence, so I sent it to AfD. Hope you don't mind. CanadianCaesar The Republic Restored 11:05, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Hunter Ellis[edit]

I've put this article up for deletion review, after re-writing a stub focused much more on his non-Survivor notability as a TV host, which was then speedy deleted as a recreation of deleted content. Since you commented on the initial AFD, I thought you might want to participate in the discussion here as well. -Colin Kimbrell 17:31, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


I award you this amphibian with fins for working so hard to get rid of the strange things on Wikipedia.
pschemp 00:30, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


Looks good. I fixed one link. Thank you for writing what I believe to be a sorely needed article. Guettarda 04:35, 6 March 2006 (UTC)


They changed the new messages box so I fixed yours to match :) -- Tawker 08:12, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Greater Iran[edit]

In the talk page Talk:Greater_Iran Diyako has not proposed why this article should be deleted, he even agreed to a rename from the old name Iranian continent to the new Greater Iran, instead of deleting it.

Now he has put it up for deletion without any proper reason Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Greater Iran, this is part of the Anti-Iranian actions I described to you before. I would appreciate it if you could have a look and sort it out --Kash 00:20, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

There is no need to even list it. Its flawed, just end it --Kash 21:50, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Hi Coach[edit]

How are you doing? Thanks for stopping by. I was wondering what had happened to you until I checked the schedule at Esperanza. I have been trying to learn more about copyrights lately as I have been poor with that in understanding. But I am learning. Am learning more about the pilicies that I didn't read before as well! (Arundhati Bakshi (talkcontribs)) 00:26, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


What is this email confirmation message about? Do I need to enter my email? And help would be great! Thanks! Madangry 03:05, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


As long as someone doesn't enter something that look like patent nonsense, an attack or an advertisement, if I feel I have to speedy their page, I try to give them a reason . . . usually its someone new, and they just don't know the criteria so I try to explain it to them . . . most of the times, however the articles are slavageable I think, so I try to slap it in a category and add a context or wikify tag to it . . . I find that gets the person asking more questions and the admins less likely to delete so fast. Most newbies do consider a speedy delete of their work a sort of insult, so it takes some time to let them know how to write an article so that it isn't a target for a fast delete. With work, most of these can become useful, informative articles.

I must confess that sometimes I use the wrong kind of delete tag . . . I speedy something when maybe I should prod it or AfD it (usually commercial/promotional oriented articles). I am working on getting that straight.

Thanks for the compliments though!

(Arundhati Bakshi (talkcontribs)) 03:33, 8 March 2006 (UTC)'ve kinda had a tough break Shanel....[edit]

Hey, I was just going around on Wikipedia user talk pages to familiarize myself with some of my fellow users (I just started here), and I ran across your page. Man. I'm not sure who first put the little target on your back, but it seems like quite a few people have taken shots at you in one form or another. Huh. That's too bad. It seems like you've been a good sport about it all though, which is good. Anyway, nothing else to say really, that's about it. Good luck and all that, and I hope they cut you some slack in the future.

--Commander Cool, part deux 05:48, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Greater Iran[edit]

  • In fact that article is not a widely used term. it belongs to wikidictionary or other wikiprojects. But after nominating I changed my mind. Actually I had put the deletion tag in the article and explained the reason in the deletion page. Thanks. Diyako Talk + 08:10, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
This is a joke. --Kash 11:11, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Archiving an ongoing discussion on a talk page[edit]

I noticed that you had recently blocked User:Khashayar_Karimi for archiving an ongoing discussion on Talk:Iranian_peoples, I'd like to bring to your attention that User:Aucaman is doing the exact same thing on Talk:Persian_people, archiving several ongoing discussions [2] only minutes after User:Ali doostzadeh had contributed to them [3], effectively denying a new wikipedian User:Ali doostzadeh the opportunity to present his argument and evidence regarding the dispute. Furthermore, User:Aucaman is also removing User:Ali doostzadeh's comments from his talk page without any valid reason. [4]

Can you please take a look into this issue, thanks. --ManiF 10:49, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

I second this, please have a look --Kash 11:23, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

New User Policy Training? (aka Newbie's Guide to Nasty Rules)[edit]

Hello. I have been thinking about this for some time now, mainly since I started RC patrolling some time ago . . . there are a lot of policies that Wikipedia enforces that most new people here have no clue about. I looked through the welcome messages that I put on new users' pages but they don't seem to address these problems. they tell you to "be bold" and tell you how to edit and make redirects and stuff . . . all necessary as they are simple . . . but none seem to tell you what you can't or aren't supposed to do.

I think it stinks when a new user comes here and goes to the trouble of writing an article only to have it deleted or under attack for rules that he/she never knew existed. Do you think there could be a way of creating a template that in a friendly way can welcome someone while also emphasizing what they are not allowed to do? In particular, I can think of several "no no's" that are repeatedly violated by people unaware that they did anything wrong. Among the things that I was thinking of adding was stuff like this:'t_be_a_dick

The material in these pages seems to me to be the most relevant as to what *not* to add and what newbies screw up on most (this semi-newbie not excepted) and the code of conduct expected out of people. I can't think of a way to force people to read this, but having a new article written with a good intention coming under fire at once will seem a lot more odious to me than showing rules in a welcome message.

Also, there is some content unsuitable for Wikipedia, but that *may* be suitable for other Wiki-sources, sich as Wiktionary, or Wikibooks, that the user may be able to make use of.

What do you think about this? Although there are some ill-intentioned people, there has really got to be a fun, non-abrasive way of getting this across. I would like to avoid these situations in the future if it can be avoided (something happened today to make me think of this but it's been brewing for some time now).

Copyrights on photos is something that still confuses me and I have been here six months.

Am I just trying too hard to be too nice or is this an idea worth pursuing?

(Arundhati Bakshi (talkcontribs)) 22:05, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

I like the idea and in fact, I would use such a template. - 20px Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg nathanrdotcom (TCW) 22:26, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Oooooh, *does Yosemite Sam dance* that joke on your user page gets me every time! Really though, I have been doing for the last month or so some RC patrolling. Some articles, due to my ignorance I have speedied or pordded, only to be saved by others. But usually I try to *save* articles rather than getting them deleted. Among newcomers though, it seems they just aren't TOLD THE RULES!!! They put forth effort and it is wasted, and no one tells them of alternatives or what needs to be done to fix a possibly salvageablbe article. Some people will always be vandals. But most genuinely *try* . . . I think the user message is too "friendly" . . . I understand the motivation, but I bet that most people who star editing here know they can edit anything, but they don't know what they can't do. This causes hard feelings all around.
I left this message on the Esperanza Project talk page hoping to get a bigger response. Have also ran it by Drini and some new users. What I kind of need to know now, is that now that I have a possible welcome message in embryo, how do I publicize it to get comments on it from people who have had the same problems? Input welcome and desperately needed! (Arundhati Bakshi (talkcontribs)) 22:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


I noticed you posted the following message on the dinosaur project page:

Hi, I'm a member of the Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing using these criteria, and we are looking for A-class, B-class, and Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Can you recommend any suitable articles? Please post your suggestions here. Cheers, Shanel 20:19, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

We can gladly help, but we (actually I) have a couple of questions :

1) What is it for? Could you be more precise on what you mean by, "for future publication on CD or paper"?

2) Do you want us to suggest solely dinosaur articles or would you like us to recommend any type of article? Excellent articles are hard to find on Dinosaurs on Wikipedia because of the lack of experts, so I doubt we'll be able to help greatly...

3) If I send you a bunch of articles after you've replied to this, will you rate them, as I'm not familiar with the rating system?

Thanks, Spawn Man 23:01, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Obviously Dinosaur. Tyrannosaurus. The rest I doubt will make it... Archaeopteryx. Triceratops. Velociraptor. Spinosaurus. Cryolophosaurus. Brontosaurus. Brachiosaurus.
That's it folks... Hope it helps a bit at least to know that we have absolutely nothing to offer yet.... Spawn Man 23:52, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

You're quick![edit]

I keep trying to nail this anti-Jimbo vandal and keep getting an error message saying you got him first! Maybe this chat message will slow you down long enough that I'll get him once or twice! ;-) JDoorjam Talk 01:21, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, and WP:1.0[edit]


Wow, that's a great trick for contacting the groups, can you explain it for Gflores and myself? Thanks a lot for finishing these contacts off, we only have "Places" to go (no pun intended). However I think we also need to contact regional notice boards, then I would say that Phase 1 is complete.

Two other things:

  • Gflores has pointed out, and I've been thinking the same, we should contact the WikiProjects about getting them to supply a list of their most important articles. This will help to tie together WP:1.0 (WVWP) with WP:1.0 (Core topics), something essential before we go to press. For example, we know that these US court cases have quality articles, but are these the most important? However recently someone from the project kindly provided me with his/her 20 most important cases, and this is probably what we need as well. I was thinking of it in terms of the "trees" that I have been developing, such as the Core Topics Tree, we need to put the most important topics in the higher levels. We don't want to publish a WP1.0 with Starfleet_ranks_and_insignia included but nothing on the elephant, for example.
  • I would like to move WP1.0 and the WP1.0 page to the "next stage", and get some kind of consensus on how we want things to proceed next. We need to get a roadmap to publication, and set up any new subprojects to help us get there. We need to decide the size and scope, please feel free to leave comments on that here. You can get a sense of Gflores's views there and also in his recent comments, I think I agree with everything.

Can you let me know what you think? Thanks a lot, Walkerma 21:17, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

talkerbot2: tawker botter[edit]

thank you. that's much clearer. skizznologic3.3 23:00, 13 March 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for reverting the vandalism from my user and talk pages. Rarely have I seen such a tantrum. I've requested the author's web site get a special mention at m:Spam blacklist.-gadfium 03:06, 14 March 2006 (UTC)


Hi, I see you've put a final warning on User: I've just done another rv. FYI. Tyrenius 06:41, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Judicial review[edit]

Hey Shanel, I was wondering if you could review my indef block on User:Themanofnines. Kept creating speedied articles. IMO all edits were vandalism or nonsense. But the one that might not be perceived to be is Culture of China, where he removed vandalism, albeit to insert a word that didn't fit the sentence. CanadianCaesar The Republic Restored 07:09, 14 March 2006 (UTC)


I was wondering if you could reconsider your decision here. If you look at the user's edits, it looks like Image:Mahmoud Ahmadinejad front view.jpg.jpg has two jpg extentions. The user might have thought he could fix this by removing one of the jpg's. His edits might have been in good faith. Since he was new, maybe he should be given another chance? I've never seen permanent blocks used so quickly. AucamanTalk 12:24, 14 March 2006 (UTC)


Hi, I'm a user from Taiwan. I just login Wikipedia with my user account and is trying to edit some pages, but I've got a message that you have blocked IP for User:Crap33 so I cannot edit the page. I just want to remind you that this IP address is only a random IP address for someone who use an ADSL connection from the Taiwan ISP HiNet. Such IP blocking might cause many HiNet ADSL users not to be able to edit Wikipedia pages and provide their works. Please kindly consider to remove the IP blocking so users from Taiwan can continue their works on Wikipedia. Is it possible that you can just block the user account but not to block the IP address? To me I can just reconnect to get an new IP address, but it might still affect someone else that is innocent. Thanks for your attention. --H.T. Chien 19:57, 14 March 2006 (UTC)


- 20px Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg nathanrdotcom (TCW) 05:47, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia 1.0[edit]

You asked about potential articles from the Protected areas project which ones might be possible to include in the Wikipedia 1.0 effort and I added the list we have from our main page as an answer. There may be others that we haven't found, but all of these are at least Featured articles and most of them have been on the Wikipedia main page.[5]...let me know if there is anything else you need.--MONGO 03:23, 17 March 2006 (UTC)


Can you give me acces to the admin channel? Thanks.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 03:31, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Would you kindly add me as well? Makemi 06:15, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Heh heh. I was just getting there. Nice loins, by the way (although one of them is a little cocky) Makemi 06:20, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


Many thanks for reverting vandalism on my userpage! - 20px Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg nathanrdotcom (TCW) 06:30, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

My RFA[edit]

Question on what's allowed and what's not.[edit]

Is it acceptable to make a custom template of {{funnybut}} (I would phrase it like this) to use as a warning or should I just leave it alone? Thanks, I figured I'd ask first. - 20px Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg nathanrdotcom (TCW) 07:03, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Me hiding myself on your user page[edit]

As you aren't talking to me nowadays, I've hidden myself until you do :) Sceptre (Talk) 13:18, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Do i have to?[edit]

Stop vandlizing? 05:35, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Your vandals???[edit]

Well, dear, you're going to have to read WP:OWN again... you don't own vandals. :P ;) Titoxd(?!? - help us) 05:45, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

You can't own them... you can pwn them, though. ;) hahahaha! Titoxd(?!? - help us) 05:59, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Canada reversion[edit]

National pride, eh? Sceptre (Talk) 19:58, 20 March 2006 (UTC)


I have some complaints about this user and I don't know where to post them. I posted this on WP:AN as well.

  1. He attacks people constantly on his talk page and reverts any comment I make - he is in violation of 3RR.
  2. He vandalized my talk page after I warned him on his talk page, as you can see here and I suspect he's using a sockpuppet on this one
  3. He's repeatedly abusive to people in Talk:IP address, specifically in this section. He's been warned there too several times.
  4. He's been warned over and over for his actions (harassing people's talk pages, harassing people via email) and nobody's blocked him yet. In my opinion, he needs a block and a quite long one (a week at least).
  5. Other actions include rudeness to User:Hbackman on her talk page at [6] [7]
  6. He changed his IP to evade his block and vandalized my talk page here and here. I know it's him because:
    • he admitted it in the edit summary
    • he's called me "Nate" in his User_talk:0waldo talk page (check history) as a weak insult. I do not respond to such names, and that's a poor way of getting my attention.
  7. He is also harassing me outside Wikipedia (this is in addition to sending me a dozen harassing e-mails on Saturday):

[22:46:45] *** Notice -- Client connecting at guest (
[22:46:45] [join] * guest [] has joined #Chat
[22:46:59] <guest> hi nate, it's waldo!
[22:47:50] <guest> i'm here I can get your weight loss formula!!
[22:47:56] [part] * guest [] has left #Chat

NSLE blocked him for a day, I think he deserves longer. I'm not complaining as he's blocked but do you think it should be longer? Thanks.

I also posted some ways I've dealt with people in the past at Banes' talk page and am wondering if you'd comment there. — 20px Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg nathanrdotcom (TCW) 01:33, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

  • Thank you very much for dealing with this!

20px Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg nathanrdotcom (TCW) 05:19, 21 March 2006 (UTC)


I was first hit on 19 March, when they changed my password 20 times. Then again today with another 20 attempts. It appears that being blocked doesn't stop one from partaking in this kind of disruption. Cnwb 05:05, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Our old friend is at it again. There must be something we can do about this. Cnwb 23:36, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

from 0Waldo[edit]

Oh GADZ!!! blocked for a mere 96 hours? Ho Hum... :) You can't do 6,487 hours, 48 minutes and 49 seconds? 0Waldo. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs) 05:21 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Another troublemaker.[edit]

Are you aware of this guy? nathanrdotcom 08:55 21 March 2006 (UTC)

AWB list[edit]

Hey Shanel, I was just wondering why you approved User:Zsinj and not me [8]. I'm pretty sure I have enough edits [9]. Could you perhaps reconsider adding me, since I'm thinking of doing some big time fixing up of some Olympics articles if I can start using the AWB. Thanks. Jfingers88 23:17, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks bunches. Jfingers88 23:42, 21 March 2006 (UTC)


Oh, come off it! DakotaKahn did the same thing 60 second later. Why not let her take the credit for "protecting Wikipedia"? Huh? From: Special:Ipblocklist

  1. 06:15, 23 March 2006, DakotaKahn (Talk) blocked Clockface (contribs) (infinite) (Sockpuppet of A. Morrow)
  2. 06:14, 23 March 2006, Shanel (Talk) blocked Clockface (contribs) (infinite) (amorrow sock)

Give the girl a break and let her credit for the infinite block... -- 06:50, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


Thank you again for volunteering! You are now a mentor. You should probably go reintroduce yourself as mentor to T-man, and make sure you are familiar with the current situation in the case. Thanks. Dmcdevit·t 07:39, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

vandal needs blocking[edit]

I left a note for Makemi to block (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • nuke contribs • logs • filter log • block user • block log) (as her first new admin task) but it seems that Makemi is actually off now, (you are an admin yes? ). JoshuaZ 05:53, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


Just dropping by to say that I'm a CapnCrack sock. Peace out! Cheeriobreakfast 06:03, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, this is CapnCrack dropping by again. I created the Sir William of Wheelington to see if I could get it by the Anti-Willy crusaders, but I failed. However, I did get two other names by the zealots. I would like to give you those two names... ...for a price, of course. Custody of one 06:59, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, TIToxd won't let me have any fun, so I'll turn in my Willy accounts also. This is one. The other one had the nickname "Whiskey", but I forgot the rest of the name off the top of my head. Wesley Snowhill 07:19, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Blocked. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:16, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1[edit]

Reach out is a program aimed at allowing users to bring issues that they have had in Wikipedia to a listening, sympathetic and caring audience:
"No one can know how we feel if we do not say. We cannot expect to get understanding if we do not ask for it. No one will dispute that sometimes life's issues are too much for one person. It is fair to say that sometimes Wikipedia's problems fall under the same heading. This is a place where you can bring the bruises that can sometimes be got on this project for attention."
The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them.
Note from the editor
Welcome to this new format of the Esperanza Newsletter, which came about during the last Advisory Council meeting - we hope you like it! The major changes are that each month, right after the Council meeting, this will be sent out and will include two featured programs and a sum up of the meeting. Also, it will be signed by all of the Advisory Council members, not just Celestianpower. Have an Esperanzial end of March, everyone!
  1. Future meetings are to be held monthly, not fortnightly as before.
  2. Bans and Access level changes (apart from autovoice) in the IRC channel are to be reported at the new log.
  3. In the IRC channel, there is going to be only one bot at a time.
  4. The charter requires members to have 150 edits and 2 weeks editing. Why this is the case will be clarified.
  5. A new Code of Conduct will be drafted by JoanneB and proposed to the Esperanza community.
  6. The NPA reform idea is to be dropped officially.
  7. Charter ammendments are to be discussed in future, not voted on.
  8. The Advisory Council is not going to be proposed to be expanded by the Advisory Council themselves, if others want to propose it, they will listen.
Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 17:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)


Hey Thanks for unblocking my IP address. Now to master the formating wikipedia uses to make my user site look good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TCPWIKI (talkcontribs) 00:12, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

sprotect request[edit]

Could you sprotect my user/talk pages for a brief period to curtail vandalism? I think this would help a bit (see User_talk:Gryffindor#Wikistalked.), considering the recent rash of vandalism to my userpage. Whatever you decide, thank you. — Flag of Ottawa, Ontario.svg Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg natha(?)nrdotcom (TCW) 07:12, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Weekly "stop ignoring me" plea[edit]

:) Sceptre (Talk) 16:42, 27 March 2006 (UTC)


Of course, you don't have to accept it. Just leave it on your talk page to rot, if you want. Sceptre (Talk) 17:14, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Admin issue regarding a userbox of mine.[edit]

Issue: devilhead userbox, using a former fair use image but changed to GDFL as per this conversation on Jabber.

Opinion: I honestly don't know why some admins can't use good old fashioned communication (on talk pages) instead of blindly making changes.

More info:

This is starting to get old. I'd appreciate a little communication on their part (this is why I don't ever want to be an admin) before they blindly make changes.

The long and short of it is: The image was a company logo. As member of the board of directors, I had permission to use it. I also have permission to license it under GFDL and I've just done so and logged the conversation.

What is the issue here? Please help. — Flag of Ottawa, Ontario.svg Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg natha(?)nrdotcom (TCW) 08:37, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

I must have been hit by a cacheing issue. I'm sure I saw a fair use tag when I viewed that image.Geni 08:44, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
There was a fair use tag. I changed it as per the above (EDIT: perhaps a couple of hours ago). You maybe could've discussed this with me first instead of making changes and I would've answered. — Flag of Ottawa, Ontario.svg Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg natha(?)nrdotcom (TCW) 08:51, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
I said all I wanted to say in the edit summary.Geni 08:54, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
You didn't say anything in the edit summary. — Flag of Ottawa, Ontario.svg Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg natha(?)nrdotcom (TCW) 08:56, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Ok, here's what I'm going to do. I can see this discussion possibly break down for some reason, so I'm going to assume good faith on your part; (I changed the license in the image information at 07:05 UTC, after you even reverted the userbox at 06:04 UTC, though I did have sufficient information in the image summary to prove I had permission to use that image - I am board member of the company it was the logo of and I had documented permission to use the image..then lots of wikifights so I had permission to change it to GDFL) — Flag of Ottawa, Ontario.svg Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg natha(?)nrdotcom (TCW) 08:58, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

=Im clueless[edit]

How do I use the sandbox? Thats all I've been trying to do. P.s. If this is in the wrong place just delete it and tell me where to do it. K-Thanks

-Dinogayman —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dinogayman (talkcontribs) 04:46 29 March 2006 (UTC)

  • I'll take care of this one. Commented on user's talk page. — Flag of Ottawa, Ontario.svg Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg natha(?)nrdotcom (TCW) 11:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


Three new squidward proxies, if you'd be kind enough to block them... he used them on talk pages and WP:SQUID so they might have been overlooked. Herostratus 14:50, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Yeah must have been a mistake, can't find where I got that. Here are two more (from WP:SQUID talk page):

The second one, though... I had not seen this before, has been used by regular editors (Squid edits are March 14), so I don't know what you do in that situation. Herostratus 06:51, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

User:Fee autist foamily gnome ass prints[edit]

This was actually another User:Zephram Stark sockpuppet. By the way, the name is a take-off of "The artist formerly known as Prince". Jayjg (talk) 22:27, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

What now?![edit]

So... what happened to the vandal channel? Someone went and made it invite only (Again). 01:27, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Charles Edward Cheese[edit]

Why did you delete the Charles Edward Cheese Article? I thought it was very informative? -1028 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 1028 (talkcontribs) 03:24 30 March 2006 (UTC)


It wasn't suposed to be addressed to anybody, I just liked the banner and wanted to do something with it. Later, as I realised the magnitude of my stalker's obsesion with everything I do, I wrote some ambiguos phrases to see if he actually is actually that bad. And although it was very unlikely, he not only find the phrases, but he also admitted to me that he did. I remember that it was this kind of way he incriminated himself on several occations that kept me from believing he really has the age and profesion he claimed tho have. However I'm using the burn in hell thing to learn how to set banners. You know, colors, fonts, image alignmet, etc. The hidden thing should go, though. It stopped being useful after ther the arbitration. Regards. -- 04:22, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Done--T-man... ""worst vandal ever"" 05:08, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Archiving the NUL[edit]

I was wondering if I could archive WP:NUL, as the list seems to be getting a bit long in the tooth and it hasn't had a trimming since Febuary. Thanks, _-M o P-_ 03:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Aha, it seems it has already been archived; you reverted this edit believing it to be vandalism; however, the user simply archived the page but forgot to say so in the edit summary. It isn't your fault at all, just a bit of a mix up; I think I've sorted it out. _-M o P-_ 03:32, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Admin coaching[edit]

Hi! While User:Titoxd is on a Wikibreak, he gave me permission to do some leg-work concerning Esperanza admin coaching. I was curious how your coaching with User:Brusselsshrek is going. If it is finished (or even if it isn't), would you be able to take on another coachee? Don't feel guilty if you don't have the time- I perfectly understand, and wouldn't want anyone feel overworked. Thanks for all your time! EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 04:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I have assigned User:Tdxiang as your coachee. Thanks for all your support of the admin coaching program, and let me know if you have any questions. EWS23 | (Leave me a message!) 05:46, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Oh, hi, Shanel... good to have you as admin coach... see you around...--Tdxiang 陈 鼎 翔 (Talk)Contributions Chat with Tdxiang on IRC! 09:11, 6 April 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for the revert of vandalism on my userpage. :) --Fang Aili 說嗎? 18:47, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2[edit]

The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date:
"Here in Wikipedia, there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go un-appreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go un-noticed. Sadly, these editors often leave the project. As Esperanzians, we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. A project the size of Wikipedia has thousands of editors, so there are plenty of people out there who deserve recognition, one just has to find them. The object of this program is not to flood editors with Barnstars, but to seek out people who deserve them, and make them feel appreciated."
The Stress alerts program aims at identifying users who are stressed, alerting the community of thier stress and works in tandem with the Stressbusters at trying to identify causes of stress and eliminating them.
Welcome to the second issue of the new format Esperanza Newsletter - we hope you still like it! This week, it was delivered diligently by our new dogsbody. MiszaBot (run by Misza13): any execution complaints should go to him. Content comments should be directed at the Esperanza talkpage. Thanks!
  1. The next elections: Approval voting as before and, also as before, an previous leadership member can run. Please submit your name for voting in the relevant section of this page. Voting starts on 2006-04-23 and ends on 2006-04-30. There will be three places up for grabs as KnowledgeOfSelf is leaving Wikipedia. Please see the previously linked page for full details.
  2. The Code of Conduct is now ready for extensive discussion! Specific comments should go to the Code of Conduct talk page, discussion of having one at all should be directed to the main Esperanza talk page.
  3. The current process for accepting proposals for new programs has been deemed fine. All Advisory Council members and the Admin Gen are to endevour to be bold when viewing discussion. If they feel that consensus has been reached, they will act accordingly.
A plea from the editor...
The propsed programs page is terribly underused! Please leave any comments, good or bad, on the page, to help us determine the membership's thoughts on the ideas there.
Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 20:27, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

sprotect removal[edit]

While not deliberately meaning to be sneaky, I've just noticed when I edited my userpage that it's still sprotected. It should probably be removed now that it's been weeks. That would probably explain the lack of vandalism :P — Flag of Ottawa, Ontario.svg Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg nathanrdotcom (TCW) 16:27, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert on my page[edit]

Delayed reaction vandalism...I warned that anon on January 13th! Thanks!!  RasputinAXP  c Gadsden flag.svg 17:27, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

1.0 "Release Version Qualifying"[edit]

Hi, Shanel, I'm interested in your feedback on Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Release Version Qualifying. It's essentially an idea to use a process similar to WP:FAC to identify and handle articles and lists that would go in a release version. Maurreen 19:22, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

History merge of Multiplayer in Halo: Combat Evolved[edit]

thanks. Only one thing, though: The Talk page was left as a redirect to itself. I think there's some hoistory that needs to be undeleted still? Thanks. — TKD::Talk 02:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)


I don't know if you know to read, but this is a FREE encyclopedia. I have the same rights that you have here guy!!! It only depends of a point of view!!! I've written an article yesterday about Madrid in Spanish, English, Italian and Portuguese, and it was very well received. I could say your articles STINK, but I am not as IMPOLITE as you.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by João Pedro Garcia (talkcontribs) .


I can't say you... I went to fix my car and my brother took my computer and wrote this things. He alway surfes on the internet to disorder the things... I hope you understand, I'm really really ashamed of him. I'll pay more attention next time. I really apologize you for my brother's (a 15 years old teenager) attitude of unneducated manners.


I have accepted my nomination for adminship, thank you so much for the well written nomination. I truely appreciate all you've done for me during my time at Wikipedia :D --lightdarkness (talk) 00:53, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

A KISS Rfa Thanks[edit]

Thank you, I've been promoted. pschemp | talk 01:02, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jostein Saether[edit]

Hi Shanel, I think you may be mistaken re the AFD. AFD is not a vote, and most (all?) of the keep 'votes' are on the grounds that he is a real academic/author. So those 'votes' should be discounted. Regards, Ben Aveling 16:28, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Nice deletion[edit]

Derek jeter is a stupid head - clicked delete the same time, same summary. Damn your internet connection! Sceptre (Talk) 19:14, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

And again on Matt Morgan. I want to revert :( Sceptre (Talk) 19:15, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

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Hi, Im Merlinus (Marc): By accident you put a block on my AOL IP adresss... if you check I am not the one you were trying to block. I wish you Good luck stopping Vandals... but this time you got a general AOL batch number and blocked innocent people... I quote: Many times, when a user that edits from an ISP with a dynamic IP pool, such as AOL, is blocked, all the IP addresses recently used by that user will be autoblocked. In most cases, it is not the blocked user, but an innocent, uninvolved user who happens to share the same ISP, who is autoblocked. This type of autoblock is referred to as collateral damage. --merlinus 23:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)Merlinus--merlinus 23:59, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Hello, I too have been blocked and am an AOL user ...any help would be great. Thanks

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Happy Easter![edit]

Please put all tasty Easter wishes here!

They were laid by a chocolate bunny. Go on, take them! :P _-M o P-_ 04:06, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy Easter! :D _-M o P-_ 04:06, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy Easter! These special Easter eggs were laid just for you by an evil bunny! — Flag of Ottawa, Ontario.svg Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg nathanrdotcom (TCW) 05:16, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Look, a real bunny! :D Happy Easter, Shanel! Sango123 (e) 14:10, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
It's bunny time - Happy Easter Shanel! (I recommend a large glass of cold beer to help the chocolate go down). --Alf melmac 16 April 2006
Happy Easter/Have a good Passover/Have a nice day...or this bunny will eat you :) Where (talk) 15:14, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Here's hoping that if the bunny leaves you any beans they're this kind! ++Lar: t/c 16:05, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Everyone else seems to have stolen all the good Easter pictures and stuff, but I wish you a Happy Easter all the same. FireFoxT [16:15, 16 April 2006]

Please unblock[edit]

Your block of Adumbonwheels (or something or other) has affected my ability to edit the discussion page of an article up for deletion. It's critical that I be able to participate in the discussion. Is it possible to unblock that I.P. address? (My ISP is AOL, and I'm constantly at a disadvantage due to collateral damage from admin actions.) Thanks. Deeceevoice 11:58, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the reversion on Thursday night[edit]

and a late Happy Easter! (yes, I'm lazy)


Oh. and archive your talk page. It's longer than a joke censored Sceptre (Talk) 23:55, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Delete Sgrayban[edit]

I wont be back to POVwiki. Delete my pages and account please. I don't want them shown. Thanks for not helping in IRC chat when I begged for it. -- 21:38, 17 April 2006 (UTC) AKA Sgrayban

Master Jay's RfA[edit]

Thanks Shanel for your support at my recent RfA. If you have any comments, leave them here. Thanks --Jay(Reply) 01:34, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Happy anti-birthday plus or minus about 6 weeks[edit]

for having lots of barnstars Sceptre (Talk) 04:13, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Work via WikiProjects Phase 2[edit]

Hi Shanel,

Hope you're doing well. Thanks mainly to Gflores and Titoxd, we have managed to finish contacting all of the WikiProjects. I just thought I'd mention that we're now planning the next phase for Work via WikiProjects here, please drop by and leave your comments. Thanks, Walkerma 15:08, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


Thank you for reverting vandalism on my userpage. :) CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 18:51, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


...for reverting vandalism to my page.


Flag of India.svgSrikeit(talk ¦ ) 20:07, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


Hi, Shannie. Could you add "Judge" to the bnu list? I'm away from my computer right now and I can't get on IRC. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 23:08, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

A tiny favour.[edit]

Hi there Shanel, I hope I'm not bothering you too much; I was just wondering, if you have any spare time in your busy schedule, could you look at the Editor review page and try to maybe review me? I'm trying to find out how I can improve and how I'm viewed on Wikipedia. Much thanks! _-M o P-_ 04:35, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


Can you switch to pgkbot when you have a chance tb2 is overloaded:o -- Tawker 17:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Your name[edit]

Is it supposed to be Shane L.? Did you go Naps? Guettarda 14:04, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Actually I always read it as Shanel, but for some reason it crossed my mind that it might be Shane, and I remembered there was a guy I went to school with, surname begins with an L, who (iirc) lives in Canada now. So I figured I'd ask, on the off chance...
Hope all is well with you. Guettarda 18:23, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Shanel is female :D — Flag of Ottawa, Ontario.svg Flag of Ontario.svg Flag of Canada.svg nathanrdotcom (TCW) 21:19, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
I had that idea in my head, but it was based on taking "Shanel" as a name. So when it crossed my mind that I might be wrong, I thought I might as well ask. Of course, in this case my gut feeling was right and my reasoned conclusion was wrong... Guettarda 21:23, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Shanel is her real name Will (E@) T 19:18, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

why did you delete my article?[edit]

½½½½½½½½½½½½½½½½½½½½½½ was a very well sourced article about a notable mathamatical operator known as the half-operation-function, thanks for deleting it for no reason--½man½monkey 03:25, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Fair use image removed[edit]

Hey Shanel. Please note that I've removed Squid.jpg from your page, originally placed by KnowledgeOfSelf on 04 April 2006. Its use on your userpage did not qualify as fair use under copyright law; see Wikipedia's Fair use policy. Sorry. :) // [admin] Pathoschild (talk/map) 08:57, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Old Skool Esperanzial note[edit]

Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Admin IRC channel[edit]

I've been taken off the list for some reason. Could you give me access again? Will (E@) T 18:34, 24 April 2006 (UTC)