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437 in the AM mothers. Everybody give me a dollar

How to add pictures to article[edit]

I have some free domain pictures of my ancestors, which have articles, which I think would enhance their articles. How can I upload them to these articles which have blocks on editing? I have never contributed before and my web accellerator is turned off? bond00724Bond00724 00:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

  • As for the second part of your questions, if you want to edit an sprotected page, there are three options, you could wait 4 days after which time you'll be able to bypass sprotection, or you could go to WP:RFP and request that a given article be unprotected, or you could use template {{editprotected}} on the talk page of that article to request an edit be made to that page--VectorPotentialTalk 00:07, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • As far as how to upload images, WP:IMAGE should answer your question--VectorPotentialTalk 00:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Which articles do you mean? For general help with images see Wikipedia:Uploading images and Wikipedia:Images. --Cherry blossom tree 00:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
(edit conflict) :An alternative is to upload to Commons so that other Wikimedia projects can use the images, too. Xiner (talk, email) 00:11, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

creating a new entry for person with same name as existing entry[edit]

How does one create a new entry about someone who has the same name as another person with an existing entry? lambes

  • You might want to read over WP:DISAMBIG--VectorPotentialTalk 00:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Create a page like "Abe Betty (Governor)". You may find this page helpful for providing links to each other's page. WP:RM is appropriate if your subject is significantly more notable than the other. Xiner (talk, email) 00:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Shouldn't that be "Abe Betty (governor)" with a lowercase 'g'? - Mgm|(talk) 05:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Contents (Hide)[edit]

Where is the tool to create the "Contents (Hide)" box? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

It is created automatically after you add three or more headings to a page. To add anyways, try {{TOC}} put this wherever on your page: __TOC__. ALTON .ıl 00:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Book covers[edit]

I've looked, but I haven't been able to find a specific answer to my question. Am I allowed to upload the cover of a book for use on that book's article? Specifically, I wanted to add the cover of the first English translation (published 2002) of Jules Verne's 1898 book, The Mighty Orinoco, and possibly the covers of other Verne books as well. Thanks. Psyche825 00:50, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Is there a WP:FAIRUSE argument for it? I'm guessing it's already shown at online retailers, and the 2002 date can be mentioned in the text. Xiner (talk, email) 00:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure if it qualifies as fair use, but it doesn't seem like it. Perhaps I should try to find an image of the original 1898 publication, since it wouldn't be copyrighted? Psyche825 01:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
That'd be wonderful, although I imagine it'd fall under French copyrights law, of which I know nothing about. Xiner (talk, email) 01:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
According to the article on French copyright law, the copyright would last 70 years after the author's death. As Jules Verne died in 1905, I guess it would be okay. Thanks. Psyche825 01:26, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
While I think the first edition would be out of copyright indeed, it is not Jules Verne we need to be concerned with, but the artist. It is artists whose work is protected by copyright of book covers, not the authors of the stuff inside. Notinasnaid 10:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


Question copied to refdesk, reply on Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Computing#BYTEWORKS.2FCOMMUNITY_INFORMATION_NETWORK -Wooty Woot? contribs 01:54, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

trying to create an entry for Ivan Yuvachev[edit]

Dear Wikipedia

i'm a registered user. i'm trying to create a short entry for Pavel Yuvachev who is mentioned in two different articles on wikipedia but does not have a page for himself. he was in the People's Will movement, and was tried at the Trial of the Fourteenth for conspiracy against the Russian Tsar. He is also the father of a famous Russian 20th Century author Daniil Kharms, and he was also a published author of some theological books in the early 20th century.

every time i hit "create an article" i get sent back into a loop of having to log in and then look for Yuvachev and then when i am presented with creating an article for this entry, i get thrown back into the same loop. it seems i am being UN-LOGGED-IN every time i try to create an article. what's up!?

i'm going loopy trying to just write a simple article about somebody that has already been deemed relevant in the wikipedia community.

would be great to hear from you about this glitch.

-M.Alepf (yan - at -

  • Have you tried the "remember me" button? If not, try WP:VFAQ and read the section about login problems. It's slower but the secure server should work for you. - Mgm|(talk) 05:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Article Count (Number of Views)[edit]

How can I see how many views (or visits ... page counter) an article has received on a certain basis (maybe dialy, or even monthly?), thanks! (:O) -Nima Baghaei (talk) 03:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Short answer: You can't. Long answer: You cannot. Veinor (talk to me) 03:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Technical FAQ#Can I add a page hit counter to a Wikipedia page?. -- Rick Block (talk) 04:11, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
In the future, this might be doable. There was a bit of chatter about this recently. Don't count on it, though. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 04:14, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Edit a category page[edit]

How do I edit a category page, like Health Charities? Ewachspress 02:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

You edit it the same way you edit an article. To add or subtract articles from a category, you have to go to that article and search for the [[Category:BlahBlah]] tags, usually found at the bottom of the page. Xiner (talk, email) 03:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I tried to create a category by adding what I believed to be the required text at the end of a page, but something seems to be wrong. It seems that there is sort of a temporary page for the category, and I can't figure out why. Specifically, I tried to create the category "NFL Offensive Coordinators," and it can be found on pages like Rob Chudzinski, Bruce Arians, and so on. Any ideas? Jeffreynye 05:15, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Is translation exempt from WP:OR?[edit]

Looking at the Zero Wing (translations) page, particularly the Alternative "free text" translation that I just restored, I'm wondering why {{original research}} is being used. WP:OR#Language implies that this is acceptable, but I could swear I've seen even stronger wording on the subject in one of the policies pages. Am I just hallucinating, or is this a clear-cut case of acceptable "OR"? -FunnyMan 04:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

  • A certain degree of original research is required to get a reasonable translation of a text, however, transcripts from television shows and/or computer games are copyrighted so they cannot be included in Wikipedia. The same goes for translations. They cannot be legally made if the source text is copyrighted. - Mgm|(talk) 05:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


i woud like to know regarding immegration to uk,new zeland ,belgium

You might want to look at Immigration to the United Kingdom (until 1922), Immigration to the United Kingdom (1922-present day) and Immigration to New Zealand. We don't appear to have an article about immigration to Belgium. You might want to ask on the reference desk, they answer questions about things other than Wikipedia. --WikiSlasher 07:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

publisher or author?[edit]

Say if I want to site BBC News and there is no specific author, would I list BBC News as the author or leave author blank and put BBC News under publisher? ex. [1]. Can you leave me a note on my userpage is someone replies. Thank you. W3stfa11/Talk to me 08:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

If there is no author listed, then you just leave it blank. -- Chairman S. Talk Contribs 08:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
That's what I thought, but this got me all confused. Very well. Thank you! :) W3stfa11/Talk to me 08:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Editors may choose to put 'BBC' as the author - but they're wrong :) -- Chairman S. Talk Contribs 10:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Problems with formula rendering on Mac[edit]

When I browse with Mozilla Firefox ( on my Mac (X 10.4.8) I do not see formulas correctly in Wikipedia. I only see LaTex-like code.

I have found the page where it is written: "To have math rendered, you have to enable it in LocalSettings.php." Will this solve my problem and how do I in that case do that? (There is no active link.)

In addition, I have tried installing both "Fonts for MathML-enabled Mozilla" and a version of iTexMac, but without success. I also scanned for plugins on the FireFox site without result.

I know this is probably a FireFox-problem, but please, if someone has some spare time left to give me a hint on where I can find a solution, I would be infinitely grateful!


Go to Special:Preferences and click on the 'Math' tab there, then try changing the setting until you find one that works. (It may be possible that your browser's being detected incorrectly or is being fed code in the wrong format; if you can see images, then 'Always render PNG' will send you images in the place of formulae, which you should be able to see.) Also make sure that you don't have an ad blocker or something like that blocking part of Wikimedia's servers by mistake (it's been known for overzealous software to block Hope that helps! --ais523 09:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the answer. I tried to set all Math to "Always render as PNG". And in fact, I have disabled animations in Firefox (how could you guess ;)) by setting "image.animation_mode" to "off" in my local FireFox' about:config. Funny thing is when I set it back to default the animations are still blocked. Dono if this has to do with my problem, but will try sort out that first with Mozilla help. To conclude - I still do not see wiki-formulas, and animations are also blocked.

Can you see the image Example.svg that I've placed in this comment (which should be thumbnailed to PNG)? If you can, then there's something weird going on at Wikipedia's end. If you can't, there's something weird going on with your browser. --ais523 17:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

No, I do not see any image. Thanks again for bothering about my problem!

It seems that your browser isn't picking up thumbnailed PNG images at all for some reason. Can you see any of the following links: (a fullsize PNG image), (an example JPG image) or (should be a one-line sentence)? As a workaround for the problem, setting 'HTML if possible' in your Math preferences should let you see some formulas, but it isn't really a permanent fix. --ais523 18:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I have to go now; could someone else pick up this thread for me once the information's been provided? --ais523 18:21, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I can see all images by clicking on the links. Setting Math to 'HTML if possible..' does unfortunately not change anything, I still see formulas like this: Formulas.png (from the Wiki on 'Goos-Hänchen effect'). To note, on PCs with same FireFox settings I see formulas, I guess this is a Mac OS X problem. --Suzsan 18:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

ok I finally got some time to browse Mozilla help, and found the solution to why I could not see formulas on wikipedia pages in Firefox. The solution can be found on this page: I only had to set image.animation_mode in FireFox’ about:config, and formulas showed up as expected. Thanks for giving me the idea and for great and quick support! --Suzsan 09:22, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Commercial Law[edit]

Could you help me with an article on : purpose of Commercial Law is not to impose unnecessary limitations and restrictions on people's freedom to manage their business in their own way and interest. Please email me with a detailed essay or article on above subject as I am keen to study this topic somewhat in details.

My Email is; (email removed to protect you from email-harvesting spammers)

Please help me immediately as i have to proceed with my work further on. Thanks for your assistance and help. Regards. Krishna 12/03/3007

Could you please help me with an essay on the topic: Commercial Law governs all commercial activities, but not all the activities of a merchant. I want this essay to be very elobrate at least 2 to 3 pages with relevent materials.
Please send me the requested to my Email at (email removed to protect you from email-harvesting spammers).
I want this essay for my research work.
Please send me the answer immediately so that I can proceed with my work.
Thanks for your help and cooperation.
yours Sincerely
  • What sort of answer are you looking for? Do you have a qestion about Wikipedia, or do you want us to write your essay for you? Notinasnaid 10:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Uploading an image[edit]

Hi I have tried uploading an image which can be found here: But although I have the details i entered the image never appears. I get the following message when I try to view the original resolution version:

The image “” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors.

Please can someone let me know how to fix this? I have tried re-uploading the image. Alibanana 10:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

It seems that either the image is corrupted, or your browser isn't uploading it properly. Can you load it by typing "file:///the image's filename on your computer" into your browser, or do you get the same error? --ais523 10:43, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
The images you upload must be web ready, that is, suitable for showing in a web browser. This one is not, because you have left it in CMYK. Notinasnaid 10:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Suspected Sock Puppet.[edit]

I don't mean to be a tattle tale, but for a number of reasons, I suspect is a sockpuppet. Is there anything I should do about this? --IvanKnight69 11:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Report the user at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets. -- Chairman S. Talk Contribs 12:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

SAP New Module[edit]


I want to now about SAP New come up module....

Can u plz mail back to this id:

Sorry, the help desk if for questions relating to Wikipedia, however you may wish to see the reference desk and they may be able to solve your problem in the appropraite section. Also, I have removed your email address just to prevent you getting any spam emails or anything. Thanks! Best Regards - Tellyaddict (Talk) 13:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

multiple users and one IP address[edit]

My partner and I are worried that if we both edit wikipedia from our home a lot, while using our respective wikipedia usernames, one of us will be accused of sockpuppetry. We are two different people with two different computers but one IP address. Any help on this issue would be appreciated.

Thanks, Awadewit 13:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't think you need worry about that unless you are also editing the same articles. Some IP addresses are shared by thousands of people. Notinasnaid 13:25, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
But it is likely that we would edit some of the same articles. Awadewit 13:34, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • If you don't break the rules, no one will check the IP address of a logged in user. - Mgm|(talk) 13:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Ok, if you edit the same article you need to be very sure that you are not "teaming up" to present the same viewpoint. This is actually not allowed whether you are two people or one people, I think. Notinasnaid 13:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

"Editing Not allowed", Information not Factual[edit]

I believe that one of your Wikipedia pages has information that is not factual, and the author of the page is also claiming that no one is "allowed" to edit his pages.

The page is question is

The statement about not allowing edits is here:

In case the author decides to remove his comments or my additional comments, I've copy/pasted the text here March 10 edits The edits made on March 10th were highly objectionable. They removed a lot of the original text for no apparent reason. They erased the original explanation of Utility/Performance/Fancy. They erased the true definition of Duv, and replaced it with their own private definition. They attempted to push their private interpretation for "reputable" commercial service. They attempted to present their opinions of Duvs as facts without ever having witnessed an actual Duv. So much original text was removed, the only choice was to "revert" to an earlier version. I attempted to identify and use some of the March 10th edits where they made sense. WynnSmith 10:36, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

You are not allowed to edit my comments. Unless you post your own comments and sign them, they will be removed. WynnSmith 04:01, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Who says that no one is allowed to edit your comments?

Try reading the policy for Wikipedia! Everyone is "allowed to" and in fact encouraged to edit the pages here!

[edit] Utility Pigeons are bred for income Most people who keep Release Doves do so for love of the bird. Nevertheless, they eventually begin releasing birds for friends and family until the day they realize how much they would enjoy operating such a business. It's the income aspect that qualifies Release Doves for the Utility categorization.

Racing homers come in a variety of colors, but only one form and station. However, as soon as a breeder begins making breeding decisions based on looks rather than flying performance, as is often practiced with Release Doves, then the strain becomes a Fancy variety.

The word Duv is often used in discussion groups by a number of people and is recognized by White Dove Release Associations such as the NWDRS.

WynnSmith 04:00, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Can you cite any REAL sources for your information?

Do you realize that the policy of Wikipedia is that you use only unbiased, truthful sources for your information, not personal opinions or beliefs?

What pigeon show would accept a homing pigeon in the Utility class? Or the Fancy class?

Just because a group of people use a word, doesn't mean that it is in reality a real thing. You've names your birds "duvs" ... but how many other people have that same strain of bird? What exactly are your "duvs"? Homing pigeons? Rollers? Tipplers? A hybrid of some sort?

Where do you base your so-called information?

Retrieved from ""

The original page states that "Duvs" are used for White Dove Releases. In this particular persons case, that might be true .. but for almost every other release company, it is not. As Wikipedia's policy states, making up a word and using it does not mean it is "real". There is not, as far as I have been able to acertain, a "true definition" of the word Duv, at least in the context the author claims.

"Original inventions. If you invent the word frindle or a new type of dance move, it is not article material until a secondary source reports on it. Wikipedia is not for things made up in school one day! "

I do not believe that this author can cite reliable published sources regarding this term or species.

I do believe that any edits I made to his original site where done with civility and good faith, yet he removed almost all of my edits, including a 4th listing of associations for dove releases.

I believe the comment on editing meant: while people are encouraged to comment on talk pages, it is considered bad form to edit, in the sense of change, what some else has posted. Changing someone's post could cause others to misinterpret what was said/meant by that editor. RJFJR 13:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
If he cannot cite it, the argument is over. -Wooty Woot? contribs 23:01, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

requesting assistance[edit]

Is there a way of contacting online administrators to help with editing like merging pages. or is the only way through placing a request on the merge request page? I am trying to merge some pages that can not be merged because they have more than one line of history.Bouncingmolar 14:01, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Well we have a nice alphabetized list of currently active administrators, however, you don't really need an admin to merge two pages, there isn't really any way to merge page histories, even with oversight, so you may as well try and merge them yourself, assuming there's consensus for a merge--VectorPotentialTalk 14:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Cheers vectorP I'll give the list a try ;)(Bouncingmolar 16:08, 12 March 2007 (UTC))
(edit conflict)By 'merge', do you mean 'move'? If there are two pages with content, you merge them by editing one to contain both sets of information, noting the name of the other page in your edit summary (this is important for copyright reasons), and then change the other page into a redirect. As for moving pages, there's {{db-move|page to move from}} that you can use to request a trivial history to be removed so that you can move a page on top of where the history was. In complicated cases, there's Wikipedia:Requested moves; see also Wikipedia:Merging and moving pages. Hope that helps! --ais523 14:06, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Uploaded images, but images do not appear when referenced in article.[edit]


I recently uploaded 10 to 15 images for the "Powertrack" article. I then edited the article to reference the uploaded images. Unfortunately, the images do not appear.

Can you tell me what mistake I have made? Or is there a lag between when the image is uploaded and when it can be used?

Please let me know.

Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ponyxprss (talkcontribs) 14:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

You need to get the capitalisation correct; you've uploaded the images as .JPG but written .jpg in the article. --ais523 14:11, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Also, you don't seem to have uploaded Image:White Corvette Speedtrack.JPG, Image:Grey Corvette Speedtrack.JPG or Image:Lt Blue Fiat Speedtrack.JPG--VectorPotentialTalk 14:14, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Self-taken photo of game action.[edit]

I was wondering about whether a photo I've taken of a hockey game can be added as an image on Wikipedia. I ask because I have two photos that relate to the Steelback Centre article (one of pre-game warmups, one during the game), and I would like to upload one of them (licensing it as work I have done) and add it to the article. However, I am unsure if such photos would be allowable because the captured action could be considered copywrited by the team or league--even though I took the photo. Can anyone confirm? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Darrel M (talkcontribs) 15:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

I'm fairly sure that you would own the copyright to these photos, so you can upload them under whatever licence you choose. --Cherry blossom tree 15:07, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm fairly certain that is true, but to be sure, call up the team/stadium and ask them about it. It's possible that media rights are reserved by the OHL. Xiner (talk, email) 17:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Can't find upload[edit]

I uploaded some information yesterday under my login name Helen Astrid on singing. When I go to search for the article, I cannot find it. Do you know why this is or where is the article?

Many thanks

Helen —Preceding unsigned comment added by Helenastrid (talkcontribs)

(edit conflict) You created a userpage, User:Helenastrid, rather than an article (which would be at Helen Astrid, without the User: prefix). However, the information that you've given is written in the wrong style for an encyclopedia article, so creating the article would be somewhat pointless at the moment (it would most likely just be deleted again). If you want to create an article, see Wikipedia:Your first article, Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, and Wikipedia:Notability (you will have to demonstrate how the subject of the article is notable if you don't want the article to be quickly deleted). Hope that helps! --ais523 17:35, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

One other thing I feel I should point out (or is it two): because Wikipedia needs to be seen as an impartial encyclopedia, not available for promotion, it is considered bad form to write an article about yourself (or a company you work for, etc.). The idea is: if a subject is notable enough for an article, someone else will write it. I hope this helps, Notinasnaid 17:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

There are many other wikis. Perhaps a wiki with different editorial policies will want your article in its present form. Learning to write articles on Wikipedia that will "stick" is not always as simple as it first appears. Wikipedia receives more publicity than probably all other wikis combined, thanks to Google Search and other search engines that rank Wikipedia articles high in search results. Wikipedia presents itself as editable by anyone, without insuring that everyone who tries editing is aware of the vast number of newbie articles it rejects. This makes Wikipedia something like the wiki equivalent of a honeypot for aspiring wiki editors, many of whom may harbor the misconception that Wikipedia is the only wiki. However, lots of new editors get over the initial shock of having their articles rejected, and gradually learn the incredibly complex rules. --Teratornis 20:07, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Spelling on Wikipedia[edit]

What is preferred in Wikipedia articles, the British or American spelling? I can understand both as British is the original spelling, but the USA has more inhabitants and Wikipedia is hosted there. Salaskan 18:21, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Well, articles about British things use British English, articles about American things use American English, articles about Canada use Canadian English, and so on. For other articles, anything is fine, as long as it's consistant, but don't change it simply to change it. The first choice is retain when there's no specific reason to change. See, for instance United States, Canada and Australia, each of which uses the local English spelling. WilyD 18:24, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
A pity we couldn't have settled this at the Siege of Yorktown - perhaps the time is right for a rematch. This issue came up before. I imagined how wonderful it could be to localize (localise?) the English spelling variants. The most "correct" spelling, outside of proper names, is whatever the user has been taught. --Teratornis 19:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


Is it accepted that fair use pictures of artworks would be in a section of the works by an artist, from any kind? For example, the section "Shows" in the article Andrew Lloyd Webber? Tomer T 19:01, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Generally speaking, no - some analysis of the image is usually required. Ask at Wikipedia talk:Fair use for a more informed opinion. --Cherry blossom tree 19:22, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
This case is interesting because these are simply illustrations that accompanied shows. The copyright will be with the artist or designer, or possibly a production company, rather than Andrew Lloyd Webber. This seems very like the case of "album covers used to decorate discography", and they should be removed. Fair use is justified by detailed discussion, it isn't a license to decorate. Notinasnaid 20:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Need help with disambiguation[edit]

Hi. I've consulted the instructions regarding disambiguation, but I'm still confused as to which type I need, or how to do it. I'm trying to change the title "Stephen L. Wade" to "Stephen Wade", but this requires distinguishing this Stephen Wade, the folk musician, from Stephen Wade the Australian politician. Right now, Stephen Wade (the musician) is found at "Stephen L. Wade". Problem is, there's no L. in his name. At said musician's request, I'm trying to get rid of the title "Stephen L. Wade" altogether. Any help would be appreciated.BFOLKINSAMADOR 19:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

  • This type of disambiguation requires moving pages, and I suspect your account is too young for that. If there's no L in his name then how did the original editor think it did? Could you explain how a mistake could be made? If you could give a little more info, especially with prove what you say is indeed correct, I'd be happy to help out. - Mgm|(talk) 19:24, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • I've moved the page to Stephen Wade (musician) for you - there are negligible non-wikipedia hits for ""Stephen L. Wade" musician". For future reference, you can use the 'move tab' at the top of each page to give an article a new title. Your account is older than four days, so you should be able to do it yourself. --Cherry blossom tree 19:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. We're the business office for Stephen Wade (musician). We have no idea who created the original entry, or why they thought there was an L in his name.

Simple definition[edit]

What is the mainspace? I see it talked about a lot when referring to edit counts... I just want to know what it is. Thanks! --Theunicyclegirl 19:23, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Mainspace is the namespace where the encyclopedia articles are located. Other namespaces are the template namespace, the Wikipedia namespace and the image namespace. - Mgm|(talk) 19:26, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Not to mention Category and User spaces. Xiner (talk, email) 19:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Many of those namespace can be distinguished by a prefix, the mainspace is called mainspace, because it's the only one that doesn't have a prefix in their URL or page name. - Mgm|(talk) 19:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Help Me!! Town is incorrectly labelled in google earth link[edit]

The town of Woodlands, Manitoba, Canada is incorrectly linked to wikipedia and labelled as Woodlands, Ontario, Canada. How can this be fixed?

Do you refer to a link that is in Google Earth? How did you get this link? Is it part of the default distribution of Google Earth, or did you download a KML file that contains this link? If the problem is in a KML file, either you can edit the file yourself (it's just text), or you can contact the file's author. Wikipedia probably has no control over what appears in Google Earth. If I'm guessing correctly about what sort of link you are talking about, perhaps the author of the KML file linked to Woodlands, Ontario because that article exists, while Woodlands, Manitoba does not (a red link to it appears in List of rural municipalities in Manitoba). You could give the KML file's author a more attractive link target by starting the Woodlands, Manitoba article. If you don't know how to do that, visit Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada, eh. --Teratornis 03:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


When I try to create a new article, instead of giving me a screen similar to the one I'm typing this question on, I get a save screen to save the index.php file - and once thats saved nothing else happens. How do I create or edit an article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sword of Light (talkcontribs) 20:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

Click on "my preferences" in the upper-right corner of your browser, go to "Editing" and deselect the "external editor" and "external diff" options. Then it'll work normally. Veinor (talk to me) 20:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Moving Wikipedia pages[edit]

If i wanted to request moving a Wikipedia page e.g. Wikipedia:Help desk or Wikipedia:Editing, would i pst it on WP:RM or does this go to a special page? It seems to say on WP:RM it is for articles only. Simply south 21:03, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Pages in the Wikipedia namespace are usually created by veteran users and rarely need moving, so the few cases of them being moved can be put at WP:RM. Just out of curiosity, is there any particular page you want to move? - Mgm|(talk) 21:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Maybe I am right now actually. I know i shouldn't take this too seriously but i am enquring whether the Wikipediholic test title should change. Simply south 21:22, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Problems with non-ascii(?) characters[edit]

I've installed a wiki on my onw website. However, when I use "funny" characters, like ö and Ú etc, in an artcile and press the SAVE PAGE button, the screen turns white, the status bar read "ready" but nothing happens. Anyone? 21:12, 12 March 2007 (UTC)GertWillem

  • Such characters are ASCII compatible and there's actually nothing much funny about them. They can be typed on a regular keyboard without any special programs. Did you add them with the bar below the edit window or did you typed them on the keyboard? - Mgm|(talk) 21:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
  • I Agree, there is nothing funny with these characters. But, if I include them in an "edit box" and press the SAVE PAGE button, it seems the wiki software does not process them correctly in MY wiki. That is, I've installed the WikiMedia software (, on my serever. And the software/wiki on my server does not process these characters correctly. THat is, when I use characters, like ö and Ú etc, and press the SAVE PAGE button, the screen turns white (that is, blank), the status bar reads "ready" and nothing happens any further. It seems as if it halts. I hope this is some kind of setting, which must be set to accept these characterts. If not, I probably have to debug pp-scripts. Anyone? GertWillem —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 20:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC).
What are you using for $wgLanguageCode? Did you try asking at mw:Project:Support desk? I am not familiar with this specific problem, as I speak US English, but people run MediaWiki all around the world so it must deal with lots of language characters. Try this search of for "non-ASCII characters". --Teratornis 01:59, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

How do i change the font on my user page[edit]

I want to change the font on my user page but I don't know how? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ahadland1234 (talkcontribs) 22:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC).

I don't believe that you can. -- Chairman S. Talk Contribs 22:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Simply use standard HTML tags - but be wary that other users must have the font you use for them to view it properly. Nihiltres 23:11, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Product key[edit]

Dear Sir / Madam

I downloaded your 60 day trial for Microsoft Office 2007 Professional on Sunday as I am thinking of buying it to replace the 2000 version that I currently have. The trouble I am experiencing is that when I open a new document it asks me to enter a 25 character product key and if I don't then I only have a certain number of goes left. At the moment I am down to 8 left so I will have run out after 3 days and not 60 days. Please can you help by giving me the necessary key.

Thanks Ian Alston Ian Alston 22:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

You may need to contact Microsoft Cheers Lethaniol 22:24, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
We are not Microsoft. However, you still need to buy the actual product to get a license key. -Wooty Woot? contribs 22:57, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

add an picture[edit]

how can I add an new picture?--Princess peachy fan 22:28, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

See Help:Images for information. -- Chairman S. Talk Contribs 22:36, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Incorrect text for page[edit]


I made the entry for the movie "A Killer Within", unfortunately the first entry was all in lower case and the second entry (which contains the information, has a spelling mistake in the entry name the entry is list as A Killer Wthin.

I would like to delete the empty lower case entry and correct the error in the complete entry.

I can see no-way of doing this so assume it must be down to Wikipedia higher forces to do this.

If I am wrong and I can make the changes, please let me know. If I am right and do not have the permissions to do this can the changes be made on my behalf ?

Thank you


Fixed it. New accounts can't move, wait a few days and you can. -Wooty Woot? contribs 22:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

How to insert a line break?[edit]

Someone has modified this lipo article and somehow deleted a line break, so that "Diabetes" is on the line before where it should be. I can't find any instructions on how to insert a simple line break. Please send me some info. Thanks. Pinkgalah 23:12, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Put <br> at the beginning of the line you want to be moved down. --TeckWiz ParlateContribs@ 23:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Or, put a blank line between the two paragraphs. --Kainaw (talk) 23:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I have fixed it at Liposuction -
Cheers Lethaniol 23:33, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I changed the fix. This was not an issue with inserting a line break. The fact template is miserably broken and, since it is a protected template, it is next to impossible to fix. A rule of thumb - always put a space after the fact template. It is stupid that you have to do it, but it is the only way to keep it from eating up trailing line breaks. --Kainaw (talk) 23:57, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
That is useful to know - especially as I use a fair about of fact tags. Thanks Kainaw. I wonder if the tag can be fixed? Cheers Lethaniol 00:00, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Lethaniol! I wrote this article originally (my only contribution to Wiki so far), and would like to update it now that I have some time for it: finish the citations, add pictures, etc. If I have trouble with formatting, maybe I'll put another question here and hope that you might answer it. Thanks too to TeckWiz; I'll do that next time. Thanks Kainaw too, although I'm not sure I understand you. Is the template a Wiki thing? What do you mean by "always put a space after the fact template"? BTW, I did try a blank line, but it made no difference; is the template the reason why? Pinkgalah 16:20 13 March 2007 (UTC)
As a new editor, ignore what I said. It has to do with the use of a broken template - which is what caused your headache. Under normal circumstances, it should never happen. --Kainaw (talk) 23:18, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Please check the interwiki Bot of User:STBotD[edit]

I found this interwiki in the article Anga. But this interwiki is total wrong. In german wikipedia this interwiki Hanga (Sprache) means an article for an african language and in english wikipedia this article is part of hindu history. So can there be more than only a mistake...maybe a chaotic bot or a vandal bot. I write here, because i just elect an admin from the adminlist and now i also ask here. GLGerman 23:43, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

The edit was made almost three months ago. Have you asked the bot maker about it? Xiner (talk, email) 01:24, 13 March 2007 (UTC)