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Hello, Chongkian! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking Button sig.png or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Gimme danger (talk) 20:02, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
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British Empire[edit]

After World War II, so many colonies became independent that it was not an empire anymore. The correct term for the country would be "United Kingdom", but Hong Kong was not part of the kingdom--it only belonged to the kingdom. HkCaGu (talk) 21:20, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Due to Hong Kong's special history, the most appropriate and common notation is simply "Hong Kong", which is the most non-controverial form. The next most acceptable form is "British Hong Kong". In Ma Ying-jeou's case, I say just "Hong Kong" because whether it was British or not has no bearing in his life. HkCaGu (talk) 08:03, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Linking & overlinking[edit]

Greetings. I have undone some of the wikilinks you added to the article Solar energy that cross the line into overlinking. You might find it useful to look at WP:LINK, particularly here. Hertz1888 (talk) 18:10, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

England[edit]

Hi Chongkian.

I can see why you want to change English in Great Fire of London to something less Anglocentric. Kingdom of England is rather old fashioned. Just England would be better.--Charles (talk) 08:47, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Sutton Tunnel railway accident[edit]

Hello. I've reverted the edits you made to this article because of overlinking (see the message from Hertz1888 above). It is generally agreed that for readers of English Wikipedia, there is no need to link "England" or to explain that it is part of the UK. Cheers. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:27, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Similarly on Tay Bridge disaster and Wootton bridge collapse.--Old Moonraker (talk) 10:52, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Lin Join-sane[edit]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Lee Han-shen[edit]

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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Lee Han-shen for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

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Your new articles on politicians of the Republic of China[edit]

Hi, Chongkian. Hope you are doing fine. I see that you are enthusiastically creating short articles on politicians from the Republic of China, which is great. Only that I am afraid you are committing one mistake: you are wrongly categorizing these articles under Category:Diplomats of the Republic of China. You should actually categorize them under Category:Politicians of the Republic of China. Best regards, --Fadesga (talk) 19:28, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I was trying to make those new articles for other people to further develop it. Cuz if no one starts, it seems like there will never be one. Ok, my bad on the wrong categorization of the articles. I've changed most of them already. Chongkian (talk) 11:00, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

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New articles on Taiwanese Politicians[edit]

Thank you for your work. But please link them to Chinese Wikipedia articles if you can... --Nlu (talk) 10:48, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

I was thinking about that for some times. But I found some difficulties on how to link the newly created Wikipedia article (in English let's say) to the current existing one (in other language, e.g. Chinese Wikipedia let's say). Tried to browse on Wikiepdia help on that, but couldn't really get any clear answer. If you can help me link that, that would be really great ;) Chongkian (talk) 11:00, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

No problem. :-) Most Taiwanese politicians are far more likely to have Chinese Wikipedia articles than articles in any other language, so one thing to do is, if you have their Chinese names (which you do for most of them), search for them in Chinese Wikipedia. Then, basically, at the end of the article, add [[zh:<whoever>]]. Thank you for your contributions.
Oh, one more thing: please make sure, if you can, that the articles have the proper sort key. On top of the list of the categories, you can put, {{DEFAULTSORT:<last name>, <first name>}} for that purpose. --Nlu (talk) 11:04, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

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Perng Fai-nan[edit]

Hello Chongkian,

This is just a courtesy visit to inform you that I took the liberty to expand your article a little since it was tagged as a stub. I've also put in a few references that support the sections I added. Hope, you'd like my little effort. I'd appreciate receiving your say on this. Best regards. (MrNiceGuy1113 (talk) 04:08, 4 June 2013 (UTC))

Oh, feel free to do so ;) .. All of the articles I've created on Taiwanese politicians are mostly only the opening/introduction with the most basic data I get from their own respective government dept website. I hope everyone can further add more & more information about their background, works, or current government policy or decision making. I purposely make all of this for everyone to further expand it as time goes by ;) Of course with all of the proper references. Chongkian (talk) 06:48, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

June 2013[edit]

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I can't find the "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" button. However, I've added more information to the article, as it is still a new articles. More and more information will be added soon. I've also included the link to its Chinese Wikipedia article, which is fully well-written.Chongkian (talk) 03:16, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

advice[edit]

Another admin quick correctly declined to delete the article, because it did have content. But the best way to avoid this sort of thing is to make sure there is substantial content from the very beginning, including several good third party references. I've noticed your articles on museum. The museums are probably notable, and should have articles--but there must be more content. You need a description of the museum, including its history, an indication of the highlights in the collection, and references. They can be in Chinese--but do give some indication of their meaning in English--translate at leas the title. It's betterto make 5 good articles than 10 weak ones. DGG ( talk ) 03:15, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

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2013 Taiwan food scandal[edit]

Chongkian,

I don't think this is in any way connected to the cooking oil problems in Taiwan, but do you think the Taiwanese starch problem deserves mention in the 2013 Taiwan food scandal article? See [1], [2], [3], [4], [5] for coverage. Vycl1994 (talk) 20:05, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Which particular part inside the 2013 Taiwan food scandal you think is not relevant? I'm really open to any suggestion or improvement, and please do so at your convenience if it can make the article becomes more legitimate. I initially wanted to write only about the cooking oil thing (because it all started from the cooking oil itself) as the "2013 Taiwan cooking oil scandal" or any similar title. But as time goes by, other types of food (besides oil) were found to violate the food regulation (if I can put this way), so I tried to combine all of those foods into one article. Even now the Taiwanese authorities are still undergoing the safety inspection (as a respond to the food scandal issues) to their milk farm. See [6] Chongkian (talk) 02:36, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
I think you misunderstood my question. I meant that even though the starch problems had nothing to do with the oil problems, should it be added to the article? The starch issue first came up in May 2013, as fair as I can tell. Then other investigations in October uncovered the oil problem. These two starch and oil problems are not connected; one did not cause the other, but should it be added because because it happened in 2013 in Taiwan? Or is it best to start another article specifically about the starch topic? I am not picking on the work you already did to the page. Rather, I am asking if reliably sourced information about the adulterated starch should be added into the existing article. I hope my question is clear and that if you think this is notable enough, you will add it. Vycl1994 (talk) 05:34, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Oh sorry, my bad. Now I understand what you mean. After I read it thoroughly, based on my understanding I think those two events (the one you said and the current oil (including milk etc) food issues) have no relations between each other. The oil scandal is not the continuation of the starch problem. Milk scandal is the continuation of the oil scandal (the Taiwanese authorities try to make a grand check on all of their food products after knowing the problem in their oil), that's why I grouped them within this article as saying "2013 Taiwan food scandal" instead of just "2013 Taiwan oil scandal". Besides, all of the responds in Taiwan and outside Taiwan are all related to those oil-related (and subsequently all of the other food that follows after the discovery of the adulterated oil). For the Taiwan starch scandal/problem, I think it's best to make it as a unique article, since it is not directly related to the current ongoing food scandal. You can always make it as "2013 Taiwan starch scandal" or any related title. But maybe at the beginning of the article, it's good to include the sentence "Not to be confused with the 2013 Taiwan food scandal". Something like that. Hopefully this helps. Cheers Chongkian (talk) 14:38, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I might get to work on it sometime, though not now, as I have no time to make anything other than minor edits. Vycl1994 (talk) 16:00, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

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Liouguei District[edit]

Hi Chongkian. I've noticed that you seem to have an interest in articles about Taiwanese subjects. I am not that experienced an editor on Wikipedia, and I was wondering if you could help me fix the article on Liouguei District. I tried to change it from Liugui District, but I accidentally mistyped it to Lipuguei District. Do you know how to change the article title to Liouguei District and delete the mistaken title page from Wikipedia? Transphasic (talk) 20:57, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

No worries, dude. Done! Try check again the Liouguei District Chongkian (talk) 04:34, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks a lot. Transphasic (talk) 19:15, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

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Museums in Taiwan[edit]

Well done on all the museums in Taiwan than you have added. However, the categories for these need some work. You should not include super-categories of "Category:Museums in Taiwan" such as "Category:Taiwan", "Category:Visitor attractions in Taiwan", and "Category:Museums". If possible, sub-categories of "Category:Museums in Taiwan" should be used. If the year of establishment is known (e.g., "YYYY"), the following are relevant: [[Category:Museums established in YYYY]] [[Category:YYYY establishments in Taiwan]] . If the year of establishment is not known, use: Category:Museums with year of establishment missing. Also, use full references rather than bare URLs and the stub "{{Taiwan-museum-stub}}" is appropriate. I have updated some entries. I hope this helps and keep up the good work! — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 18:14, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh, thanks a lot for all of the inputs. I've been concentrating more on creating new articles only (because basically there is just no article at all in describing some particular museums! let it alone be more detail), without really focusing the detail on the other components of the article (e.g. category, the reference URL etc). Sure, I'll take not on that and will make those improvements. Cheers! Chongkian (talk) 02:57, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Great, I will work through the articles gradually under Category:Museums, where there should be no actual museums. If you create new articles or update old ones, it would be good to attend to these details. Have fun editing! Best wishes, Jonathan Bowen (talk) 00:46, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

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Taiwan-related articles need to have Simplified Chinese displayed in addition to Traditional Chinese[edit]

Hi! I saw this edit. Please keep Simplified in Taiwan-related articles. Articles should display both Traditional and Simplified forms. However the order differs depending on subject.

  • Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan, Pre-1949 Mainland, old Singapore and Malaysia as well as most overseas Chinese communities: Traditional first
  • Post-1949 Mainland, modern Singapore and Malaysia: Simplified first

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I do understand your point. I was initially thinking that way. But do we end up having to have British English name alongside any American English name of article all the time? (e.g. in the case of if both versions have different spelling between each other). Or has there been any general concession in Wikipedia regarding putting traditional and simplified version of name alongside each other? I don't mind putting all of the simplified together with traditional name regarding any Chinese-related article if that's the way it is. And even regarding the Chinese pinyin, should we always stick to Hanyu Pinyin (for Mainland China, Taiwan, Singapore)? Or even should be include Tongyong Pinyin for pre-2008 Taiwan and pre-1950s Mainland China as well and Cantonese Pinyin for Hong Kong & Macau-related articles? Chongkian (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:43, 8 March 2014 (UTC)
From my understanding there is a general concession to write both forms of Chinese. Now, if there are a lot of "attributes" (different dialect spellings - AFAIK only use non-Mandarin dialects if the particular province is relevant) then we can use a special Chinese language template that lists traditional and simplified written forms and romanizations according to different dialects, but when it's just Mandarin I put the info in the lead. From my understanding Hanyu Pinyin is put in every China-related/Chinese subject, but Tongong Pinyin is also listed if it's 1990s?-2008 Taiwan. For Wade-Giles, for pre-1949 Mainland and pre-1990s?? Taiwan (for many old subjects, the scholarship uses Wade-Giles - I've read through journal articles about Chinese subjects and I will say that Wade-Giles is very helpful for inclusion in articles about pre-1949 Mainland subjects as well as during the period when the US didn't normalize with the PRC) WhisperToMe (talk) 04:47, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

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TIPO[edit]

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Taiwan[edit]

Hi, I've removed the "establishment" category you have added to a number of cities in Taiwan as it is incorrect - all of the cities were founded long before the modern period. "Establishment" categories are generally for things like schools, businesses etc. Cheers. ► Philg88 ◄ talk 16:11, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

If you check deeper into each of those Taiwanese cities history, the reason I put the establishment year category is more on their current status of the city (either as county-controlled city, district, provincial city, special municipality etc - because as time passes by, there are some adjustments on those administrative divisions), not on the very first time that city appear on world's map. Can that be considered as a "legal-entity establishment"? Chongkian (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:15, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
I did check, and "no", the fact that the administrative status of a particular city, town, etc. changes over time does not negate its prior existence or alter when it was originally established. If you extrapolate your reasoning then you would end up with a bunch of unnecessary categories as in this trivial example: "cities established in the eight century" "cities that became a "zhou" during the Tang dynasty", "cities that were captured by pirates in 1756", "cities that became a provincial-level city in the Qing Dynasty" and so on ad infinitum, whereas the first one would be sufficient. The bottom line is if it isn't true, it shouldn't be in Wikipedia. Keelung was not established in 1945 so it does not belong in that category. Best ► Philg88 ◄ talk 16:52, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

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An article I created[edit]

Hi Chongkian, I see that you are an active member of the WikiProject Taiwan. I have recently created the article Secondary education in Taiwan, could you help to check the article if it could be further improved? I intended to translate from Chinese FA but failed to due to real life constraints.

I am not familiar with this topic as I have never received education there. Are you a Taiwanese? HYH.124 (talk) 07:04, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi there. Sure, let me see if I can add anything else that I know, linking to any Taiwan universities, Ministry of Education, K-12 Education Administration, or maybe probably education history of the ROC before 1949. In creating article about particular country/region, you don't really have to be a native/citizen of that place. A third people's point of view may sometimes be completely 100% objective in seeing and evaluating something, because he/she is not raised by the common 'misconception' or 'propaganda' from that particular place. Me? Let's just say I'm a person who is really interested in many Taiwan-related articles ;) Chongkian (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 08:14, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

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