User talk:DangerousPanda

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i dont know u personally. so can u tell me y r u sending me messages did i have sended u message and what is ment by " ... and you should know that this edit is both unconstructive and inappropriate ." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sawant Mukta (talk • contribs) 16:21, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, if you personally think that "did you fucked your cloths LOL" is either constructive or appropriate, then please feel free to correct me ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:45, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

y u deleted my user page who r u 2 care about my safety.i will think should i keep my user page or not. how u dare 2 do that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sawant Mukta (talk • contribs) 11:50, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Clearly you're still under the mistaken belief that this is some kind of social networking site; it's not. I see that someone else has already provided the guidance for young editors. A quick glance through that will already show you a few things we've already tried to discuss with you before: multiple accounts, using your real name, identifying information and more. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:33, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Too Funny. This was the first thing I saw on my watchlist. Lol.—cyberpower (X-Mas Chat)(Contrib.) 13:15, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

u r stupid, idiot, crazy, cunt, motherfucker. i propely know that this is not a social networking site u sucks y don't u fuck ur users page and y r u keeping an eye on me cuz udont know who i m. u dont know that whole world respects my father. u bloody fucker.(Muks (talk) 12:55, 23 December 2011 (UTC))

Yes, I do have sex with my wife, who is indeed the mother of 2 children. So, as you suggest, I suppose I am a "motherfucker". Thanks for the kind words. It is too bad that respect is WP:NOTINHERITED :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:01, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

User talk:Taivo unblock request thread

I have a quick question for you. At User talk:Taivo#December 2011, you made a reference to Taivo's block log, and escalating blocks. He had a single previous block, from over two years ago. Would you really have given him a 48 hour block (and a 23 hour for the other edit warrior) because of something that happened two years ago? Horologium (talk) 17:44, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Although I typically make EW blocks identical (to be fair to both parties), there are occasional exceptions. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:40, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

User talk:Psico

I'm sorry, i didn't know! thanks for the message Psico pp (talk) 12:41, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

Advice

Hi. There was a discussion at ANI a few days ago about an editor who was inserting invisible unicode characters into articles (I won't mention the obvious reason why per WP:BEANS). I was just wondering if you know of any way to detect these kind of invisible characters (such as the soft hyphen) in articles? I don't know how on earth I would go about spotting this kind of disruption. Basalisk ^{inspect damage}⁄_berate 02:00, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Hmm...a search using AWB? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 02:09, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

Just to make sure my noobishness doesn't completely negate your answer, you mean AutoWikiBrowser right? (Don't know if you can tell that I've never used it) Basalisk ^{inspect damage}⁄_berate 02:14, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

LOL ... yup, that's the one (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 02:29, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

I use a Mac. That's my defence. Thanks for your help! Basalisk ^{inspect damage}⁄_berate 02:31, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

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Uninvolved admin request

Would you mind taking a look here? Does anything look suspicious to you? Toddst1 (talk) 20:07, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)(Non-administrator comment)Yes. It does. I would recommend having a checkuser see if there is an IP Hopper or a connected account. This user really seems to be paranoid about you Todd. I would recommend asking User talk:Xeno or User talk:WilliamH to see if they can find anything.—cyberpower (X-Mas Chat)(Contrib.) 21:26, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

It looks like it's either a duck or not. See User_talk:Muzemike#IP_issue. Toddst1 (talk) 01:58, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

I am not an admin nor am I a Check User. I can't be of much help except for the fact that this looks very suspicious to me.—cyberpower (X-Mas Chat)(Contrib.) 02:04, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

It's on ani now. Thanks Cyber. Toddst1 (talk) 07:19, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Advice: please review before going live

Hi Bwilkins. I am trying to create an article about Noor photo agency and would like to have it reviewed before making it into a final article. If you can take a moment of your time I would appreciate. Thanks. Ina Desk (talk) 13:48, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Don't want to sound too harsh here, but where's the notability? It doesn't even appear that any of the individual "players" have any notability on their own. WP:CORP amplifies the requirements for businesses, and there's nothing in this article that even remotely comes close. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 15:07, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Really? then I am not sure what a reliable independent source means for references. Coverage on MSNBC, British Journal of Photography, The New York Times, Le Mond "visa pour l'Image award", plus awarded UNHCR: Nansen Award, among many others. Maybe I should link to all the World Press Photo awards but, that seemed a bit to self-promotional.Ina Desk (talk) 16:49, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

I am taking my cue from these guysIna Desk (talk) 16:56, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a valid argument :-) There's a lot of junk in that article that needs to be removed. The primary difference I see (at first glance) is that a significant number of the founders of VII are all blue-linked - meaning they are all considered to be notable enough individuals in their own right, that the "coming together" is a fairly "big deal" (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:59, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Re: Giving you a chance to revert

Are you joking? Seriously? User:3.14159265358pi's comments appeared to me to be a personal attack against me. That seems pretty blatant. WTF? (talk) 22:13, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Replied on your talkpage about what WP:NPA actually says (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:07, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Signing blocks

Sorry about that. Usually, the editors I block are IP vandals, in which case I use the following anonymous block template: {{subst:Uw-ablock|time=Duration|reason=For a different reason|sig=yes}}, which does it automatically. Only now do I see that the one I use for registered users (which I don't user often, since I don't often block registered users) didn't contain that value: {{subst:uw-block2|time=duration|reason=reason}} I've fixed this. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 17:43, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Cheers :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:07, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Mentoring?

Hello BWilkins. I have noticed that you are more attached to me lately giving me guidance left and right. This is in no way saying that I am not welcoming it. It is much appreciated for the help you are providing me. I would just like to know if you are voluntarily mentoring me or not. Are you?—cyberpower (X-Mas Chat)(Contrib.) 18:21, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, I've had your talkpage on my watchlist for awhile ... and you seem to be posting on some other talkpages I watch ... and of course, I'm active on Requests for Permissions ... I suppose I find that if I can be of some guidance, I'll give you a gentle nudge one way or another (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:45, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

I'd imagine there are a few people that have your talkpage on their watchlist, Cyberpower. I've been having a look through your edits and, to offer some unsolicited advice, I suggest you drop the idea of adminship completely for the time being... at least a year or so. I cannot imagine you would enjoy the experience of RfA. Catfish Jim and the soapdish 19:41, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

I am well aware of that. I hadn't planned on participating in one for a while anyways because of my recent unintended block. I merely wanted inputs from other users giving their opinions of me and how I could improve to be a better editor. Becoming an admin is certainly a dream of mine, but, I have no intentions of rushing my way to it. I will only consider RfA once I feel I am truly ready as well as other editors feel that I am ready.

@BWilkins: If you want to be a mentor for me, I have no objections to that. I look forward to your nudging.—cyberpower (X-Mas Chat)(Contrib.) 20:22, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

I am honoured that you would ask (and I mean that). I'm not sure I have the time required to truly be a good mentor in this case ... I would be pleased to continue to provide snippets here and there (especially when I see something that might interest/concern/help). I suppose that's not the answer you're looking for ... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:37, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't matter. It's not like I am totally incompetent and need a mandated mentor. You can help me out when you have the time. I am getting increasingly busy myself as the time for college approaches in the next few months.—cyberpower (X-Mas Chat)(Contrib.) 21:50, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Eaglestorm

Giving incorrect details. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinoy_Big_Brother:_Unlimited "Divine allegedly excluding him." supposed to be "Divine unfairly excluding him." I told him many times to change it yet he insists on not changing it. We even had an edit war...he called be a tard. I mean, do you administrators tolerate that kind of behavior? Cratiod (talk) 11:43, 25 December 2011 (UTC)Cratiod

As you can see, I have already addressed the WP:NPA. I'm taking to interest nor sides in the content dispute at the moment, although if edit-wars occur, then I'll get further involved - although I would hope that dispute resolution is more successful (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 19:00, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

He still won't follow. He has a very high regard of himself. He will take only his facts into consideration. He is also mean and blunt to other members. If, for example, user X said something like: Pinoy Big Brother's darlings, Eaglestorm would make am edit summary like: PBB's darlings? How stupid. Furthermore, he removed my kindest dispute from his talk page without replying and also called me an idiot and a fantard. I would at least want a reply from him explaining and not a post deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cratiod (talk) 11:43, 25 December 2011 (UTC)Cratiod

Yes, it's more polite to respond, however he cannot be coerced into it. I do have to admit that I would revert the word "darlings" as WP:PUFFERY, and possibly with a sarcastic tone too :-) He's not going to get blocked currently - I am keeping an eye on him, and have been for some time. As I said, I warned him for his WP:NPA (which funny enough he reverted and suggested that you had put me up to it). Let me know if it escalates (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:39, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

He still calls his fellow users "gloaters", "idiotic", "ignorant" and stupid... Cratiod (talk) 11:43, 25 December 2011 (UTC)Cratiod

Independent advice

I would like your opinion on something. User:JohnMannV began editing Tuples in association football as his first edit we suspected him to be a sock puppet purely because his actions were very similar to User:Subtropical-man who seems to have ceased editing the page I'm still not sure re this. I got into a bit of a confrontation with him which i shouldn't have on his talk page and started a discussion on the articles talk page to try to avoid an edit war. In this edit [1] he accused me and two other editors of being against him and the article because we are Scottish. He repeated it on the article talk page. Im unsure how to proceed with this as don't want to get into a further confrontation. Edinburgh Wanderer 22:47, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

It also should be noted we do know each other but it is nothing do with us being Scottish its from membership of wikiproject football. There have been two discussion there re the article. Edinburgh Wanderer 22:50, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

I've dropped him a warning, and am watching his talkpage. Let me know if I should be watching the article as well (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 22:55, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Im hoping the article will sort itself out as people seem to be joining the discussion. I was more worried about the attacks want sure whether to do nothing or report. Thanks for your help. Edinburgh Wanderer 23:01, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

The nationalist comments were not appropriate at all. I have no comment about the sockiness :-) Of course, maybe he got mad because you guys caught him as a sock, so he's deflecting using the nationalism front? (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 23:02, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Possibly wasn't sure whether requesting an SPI would be appropriate especially if it inflamed it more if he isn't.Edinburgh Wanderer 23:05, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

BWilkins, I want to file a formal complaint against you. How do I report you for unjustly blocking me and your complete lack of neutrality regarding the confrontation I had with Edinburgh Wanderer? This entire exchange here is sickening. You just blindly took his side. Your smiley face after writing "I have no comment about the sockiness" proves your bias. The fact you state that you will be watching "me" instead of both of us, even more so. This wreaks of two high-level politicians (or more like fraternity boys) covering each other's backs to protect their influence. How do I file a formal complaint against you for abuse of powers? JohnMannV (talk) 00:30, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, the "smiley face" meant "he may or may not be a sock, pursue that elsewhere"; I'm 100% neutral: you're performing nationalistic insults, and they don't belong anywhere on this planet, let alone on Wikipedia, so you have drawn plenty of attention to yourself. If the above is not clear to show I have nothing been nothing but neutral, please consider filing a report at WP:ANI once your (surprise) most recent block (by another neutral admin) expires. Note: your actions will be looked at carefully by all as well. Cheers (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:18, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

How much reasonable suspicion do you need to fill an spi.Edinburgh Wanderer 20:22, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

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Sorry should have fixed that.Edinburgh Wanderer 21:22, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Re: Decemober 2011

When you posted your warning on my Talk page, did you read everything I wrote in the Discussion page you mentioned in order to get my side of the story, or did you just take his side because he asked you to? Are you saying that when a clear pattern of conspiratorial and biased editing by a group of 3 or more editors from the same country is noticed on Wikipedia, other editors should just ignore it and not address it at all? Please clarify, because if those are the rules, then my next step will be to effectuate change to those rules as what is happening in the Tuples_in_association_football article is a disgrace to Wikipedia and I will not stand for it. I've been constantly reverted and attacked by the same group of 3 Scotsmen whose original edit yesterday removed all accomplishments except those from a Scottish Football Club. This bias is so transparent it's offensive. JohnMannV (talk) 23:08, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Of course I read the whole fricking thing. Your nationalist insults are, to quote someone recently, "so transparent it's offensive" (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 23:11, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

You conveniently did not address any of my points and decided to block me instead. Address my points above, and then show me specifically where I committed "nationalist insults". You have 24 hours. JohnMannV (talk) 00:32, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

And that is the beginning to escalate to a personal attack to BWilkins. I would consider cooling down.—cyberpower (X-Mas Chat)(Contrib.) 01:08, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Still a bit worried about Sawant Mukta

You deleted their userpage again. Talk page still has some chat that might identify them. I guess there is only so much we can do.--Shirt58 (talk) 12:50, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

...and I salted his userpage, and have now been forced to give him a brief block. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 12:52, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Oops. This "crossed in the mail." "Muzukashii da na" in Japanese literally translates as "it's difficult, isn't it?" Idiomatically it means "there are many complex issues raised here that cannot be resolved in any simple way at the present time." The wikipedia project needs the input of editors outside of the USA/UK hegemononsphere; the wikipedia project needs the input of younger editors. But how to facilitate this? Vexed, vexed question, or as they say in Japanese, "Muzukashii da na". --Shirt58 (talk) 13:28, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

You might want to delete User_talk:Mukta_Sawant as well, as it is apparently the same person and presumably the same information. Kafka Liz (talk) 13:50, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Deleted, blocked, indef'd (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:54, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Wow. That was fast! Happy holidays, Kafka Liz (talk) 14:01, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

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Not really, but just look what you've done to the template! Twinkle already creates a header. Way to plan ahead. :P Swarm ^X 18:29, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Geez, who uses Twinkle for ANI notices :-P (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 22:43, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Oh, well there's, erm...uh...there's.....no one. Swarm ^X 06:52, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

It's ok ... I was being bold based on a number of concerns that had been raised. Either Twinkle can be tweaked, or someone can undo what I have done, or left undone those things I ought not to have done... (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:20, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Slang

Hi there; I have been a medical practitioner for forty three years, and have five children and eight grand-children. I have never heard the word "wang" as synonym for penis or, indeed, at all. Where have I missed out??!! --Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 22:14, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

See this. Gwen Gale (talk) 22:17, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

And there's "How to Drive Fast on Drugs While Getting Your Wing-Wang Squeezed and Not Spill Your Drink" from Republican Party Reptile by everyone's favourite conservative , P. J. O'Rourke. --Shirt58 (talk) 09:26, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Request for Advice

Hello Bwilkins

Sorry to bother you, but I am an IP user recently blocked by swarm based on the request of Topgun http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring .I noticed following the block Topgun did not comment on my article discussion :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Indo-Pakistani_War_of_1971#Content_removal Not only did he not respond to me, after I was blocked, he reverted the article to his edit and then justified it on grounds of my being blocked rather than on substantive grounds. He groundlessly claims vandalism if something is not to his liking, and edit warring/IP socking if all else fails. The bones of contention re: 1971 War article are:

1.whether damage to facilities belongs in the human casualties and losses section of the article infobox 2. if so, whether content should be weighted to favor minor damage rather than the outcome determinative damage

• I and others favor limiting content to human casualties only given the best practices of wwi, wwii and virtually all war wiki articles. If wiki staff disagrees, then content should be based on outcome determinative damage rather than minor damage.

Topgun’s approach of warn/block/page protect first ask questions later is detrimental to good faith and collegiality as seen here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring&diff=prev&oldid=465321801

• Topgun appears to have also complained about 3 admins, seemingly having trouble with casual contributors like me as well as competent wiki staff. He also violated a previous warning as you probably recall:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=463924949#Punitive_Block

• I would go to dispute resolution on this article issue, but this appears to be a habit with him. As I wish to avoid edit warring but am faced with a bad faith editor, please advise. Thank you.

IP 98 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.165.115.152 (talk) 00:01, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

There is not such thing as "wiki staff". We're volunteers. Admins typically do not get involved in content disputes such as this: articles go by WP:CONSENSUS. If you want to make major changes, we have the WP:BRD cycle: you make a change, if it gets reverted, you MUST discuss in order to try to gain consensus. If consensus does not favour your change, you're outta luck. WP:DR is still another way to go. Of course, you should also know that many editors have less trust for anonymous editors - indeed, you have far less privacy as an anonymous editor than if you registered an account (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 00:49, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Ok thank you. The thing is, this goes beyond content--it's a pattern of behavior by one user across multiple pages. I'd reach out to other users, but then I'd prob get a WP:CANVASS. I would also note that the issue is that the other side is NOT discussing, and is in fact going against the consensus. I am not the first editor to raise this issue. The problem is the user edit wars and then blocks everyone else and claims a status quo consensus. This leaves no choice other than to edit war again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.165.115.152 (talk) 01:21, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

He cannot block anyone ... and indeed has been blocked himself. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 02:20, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Please look beyond me

I'm disappointed that my involvement in BusterD's Rfa may have, in your opinion, cost him some support votes. I don't nominate many editors, least not since late 2006...the only one since then besides BusterD was Mike Cline in early 2010...the issue of me being the nominator didn't seem to be raised then, so I must have really disappointed some people subsequently...all everyone has to remember is that I am not running, but I generally pick great candidates as shown at my userpage.--MONGO 03:16, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Mongo, the sheer way that you misrepresented and completely screwed up with such horrible judgement the last (and I think only) time we had an interaction has unfortunately not allowed me to trust you judgement at all. I don't hold "grudges", but that level of action will stick with me until proven otherwise. I did say I will look further, and I think I was rather gentle with my neutral comment (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 10:07, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

You would have to refresh my memory...are you talking about HJ Mitchell removing my rollback rights?--MONGO 13:27, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm still hoping to find some sort of explanation for your assessment of my actions which would help me not leave such impressions with yourself and/or others in the future...but for the life of me I do not know what incident I "misrepresented and completely screwed up with such horrible...." (Etc.) Without a discussion on this matter, it would be hard for me to be able to alleviate your concerns.MONGO 14:37, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

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Lazy

So you won't mind if I call you a vandal/sockpuppet some time in the future? Or alter people's comments numerous times despite being explicitly warned not to? Cool, I guess I can treat this website just like a discussion forum then! What fun! Twafotfs (talk) 12:21, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Not really. All of that is not allowed unless you have a specific and legitimate reason to do so. You may want to check out the policies of Wikipedia. I'll post them on your page if not already posted.—cyberpower (X-Mas Chat)(Contrib.) 12:37, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Pretty rich calling me "lazy" ... you were trying to get admins to do what you had failed to attempt yourself. There was no immediate block that was going to occur. If you're trying to prove long-term issues, that's what WP:RFC/U is for. I closed it because the two of you were finally actually "talking it out". Admins are not parents: it's not our job to intervene and choose sides. Your role as an editor to try try and work it out with the other party FIRST. I finally saw some wonderfully open and productive discussion between the 2 of you - the type of discussion that was probably going to lead to understanding and resolution. So, take that discussion and continue it between the two of you - work it out. If problems recur that require and immediate block, then come to ANI. Otherwise, it's WP:RFC/U. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 13:35, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, how on earth would you expect me to know what WP:RFC/U is? My complaint was not with the issue at hand, which was resolved by DougWeller long ago. I thought that it was very clear that I was "trying to prove long-term issues". And I never asked for him to be "blocked". Also, I think you have a funny definition of "wonderfully open and productive discussion"! Twafotfs (talk) 13:59, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Here's my definition of "wonderfully open and productive discussion (extracted from ANI):

User:T: "I am not claiming I acted like an angel"

User:B: "I agree that we both could have handled it better"

User:T: "I've apologized for exceeding 3RR (even though I wasn't aware of it)"

Call me crazy (which rhymes with lazy), but that's very positive, and shows you're both actually active listening (or reading, whatever the case). That's exactly the type of discussion you should have had with each other before ever filing at ANI. As someone trained in mediation, it was the perfect place to send the both of you off to finish your understanding of each other's position. Don't ever be offended by humour - it's actually the best way to resolve a lot of issues (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 14:39, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Again, none of that has anything to do with the substance of my complaint. I wasn't posting about the content, or about me exceeding 3RR, I was posting about BabbaQ's pattern of uncivil, aggressive behavior and history of personal attacks. He edited other people's comment's before, was expressly warned by an admin not to do so again, with the words "consider yourself advised", and yet he continued to do so. Add to that the list of accusations and insults. And yet, nothing...... Twafotfs (talk) 13:22, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Sig

Re: The sig I'm using. If you really have an issue with it, you could have brought that issue to the talk page I'm also using rather than leaving snarks at various noticeboards. As far as "stealing", perhaps you've read the following:

"If you do not want your writing to be edited, used, and redistributed at will, then do not submit it here.

Similarly, if you do not want your ideas (for article organization, categorization, style, standards, etc.) challenged or developed by others, then do not submit them."

Nothing we do or write or create in Wikipedia belongs to us, ergo, it's not possible to steal what's left here or have what we create here stolen. (talk→ LesHB ←track) 16:40, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Just like all edits to articles are tracked in order to attribute them to who did them, or even derivative works from images, it's similarly polite and common practice to attribute where you borrowed from. My little bits of needling were intended for you to pick up on that standard practice by yourself without making a big deal out of it (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 16:54, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

I prefer plain speaking. If you want to say something to me in the future, it'll be better received and your intentions better understood if you just say it. (talk→ LesHB ←track) 16:57, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, if imitation is a form of flattery then Les must be paying Bwilkins a compliment. I had noted this ripped-off sig as I'm sure others have. Les, although something may be your right that doesn't always make it right if you know what I mean. My 2 cents.
⋙–Berean–Hunter—► 17:26, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Les, even if Wikipedia and its pictures may be a repository of free information, however, a signature that is copied is considered forgery. Signature's may or may not be free to the public but nonetheless, it is still considered stealing without asking for usage permission of something that was created by someone who hasn't explicitly given permission to allow users to copy and use it as their own. I would be particularly apprehensive if the layout of my signature were copied. (talk→ cyberpower ←track) 23:29, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

I hope you catch my drift of what happens when copying other user's "property" as I like to call it. Here's an example for you. The basic layout is a copy of User:Hurricanefan25's and three other editor's layout. When I decided to use it, I asked for permission to copy it. The heading as well as the transclusion barrier on my page is a slightly modified version of User:Ryulong's who also had given me permission to copy it. It helps to avoid confusion and possible apprehension in the future.—cyberpower (X-Mas Chat)(Contrib.) 23:29, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Yes, imitation is flattering, and I'm not trying to dissuade people who want to be like me ... however, attribution is key :-) If he chooses not to do it, it says more about him - indeed, it would show he doesn't deserve such an excellent signature :-p (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 00:25, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Then again, everybody has their own opinions about their signatures being copied but, BWilkins has a point. It says a lot about a person who just takes something without asking rather than asking before taking it. Some people will see it as flattering and some people will be apprehensive to it. I happen to be one that would be apprehensive to it particularly since my signature happens to substitute a template that defines the colors of my signature.—cyberpower (X-Mas Chat)(Contrib.) 00:55, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

ANI unprotect

An IP being reported at ANI can't respond, could you un-protect ANI? Cheers Basalisk ^{inspect damage}⁄_berate 16:50, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm assuming this was already taken care of by this time :-) (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 01:03, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Essay

Your statement for the MF case looked most useful, I was going through your contribs looking for a diff to it and was glad to see you've already made it into an essay. Just as a fyi, I posted a link to it on one of the arb boards . FeydHuxtable (talk) 21:38, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you :-) I'm honoured that it was appreciated (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 21:40, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

Nicki Minaj birth year

Just FYI, that piece which you think is real is a fake. There are several different ones circulating around (once with her listed address as Los Angeles, which is not true and another that lists her birth year as 1984). There are different versions of that paper that's supposedly from the Dallas PD. In fact, Nicki Minaj herself has openly claimed that she was born in 1984 in Trinidad & Tobago (in her own words). Her official facebook, which she maintains herself, lists 1984 as her birth year. Bastian (talk) 02:22, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Sadly, you should not be astonished

Re [2]; while I agree with the thought, unfortunately that's not observed in practice. One of my few article space contributions was dealing with: apparent weight [3] sat as a zero source, original research, textbook page for years. To get it changed to its current RS stub (which pretty duplicates the existing Weight#Apparent_weight) took months of discussion on the talk page, a twice relisted and ultimately failed Afd. If with followed a consensus on a merger proposal which was ignored and slow edit warred over, referral to WP:DRN which was then forum shopped to Wiki project physics. The usual accusations of malfeasance after responding to a WQA are much easier to deal with! Nobody Ent (Gerardw) 11:41, 31 December 2011 (UTC)