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Date of birth

Most sites now say he was born 10 September (os)/22 September (ns) 1875. But Slonimsky places it at 22 September (os)/4 October (ns). The date 10 April also appears in some refs, the 10/4 of 10 April being a transposition of 4 October’s 4/10, so these numbers seem to have some credibility. Are we certain that he was born 10 September under the Julian calendar, and not 22 September? -- JackofOz (talk) 01:09, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Information from the Lietuvių (Lithuanian(?!)) Wiki-entry

The Lithuaninan (I guess) wiki-entry has some info this ine is lacking, if someone who speaks lithuanian could transfer that info it would be great.

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Spelling of first name.

This article spells Ciurlionis's first name as "Mikalojus"; but I have seen the variant "Mikolajus" (exchanging the "o" and "a"). Is there any basis for this? Is it one of those things that cannot be resolved, or is a reason known for the wrong version (whichever that is)? Just wondering. M.J.E. (talk) 12:13, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Surely, "Mikalojus" and "Mikolajus" has nothing in common by spelling in Lithuanian language, so "Mikolajus" is some kinda mistake I guess. By spelling its similar to russian "Николай" (in Lithuanian "Nikolajus") and could be mistaken.

Name and nationality

To prevent future edit warring. Majority of sources describe him as Lithuanian and use his Lithuanian name. Here's a recent Polish source, whose title should make things quite clear. Mikalojus Konstantinas Čiurlionis: litewski malarz i kompozytor. Muzeum Śląskie. 2006. ISBN 978-83-60353-24-0. Retrieved 31 August 2012. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 17:02, 31 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There doesn't seem to be any doubt that the Lithuanian version of his name is Mikalojus Konstantinas Čiurlionis. Sca (talk) 21:01, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mass removal of artwork

Now Sca this edit is simply this close || to qualify for vandalism. I imagine also that Lotje pic that up by watching my page and decided to remove circa 70 % of the works. Do me a favor Lotje, stop watching my page. Hafspajen (talk) 17:45, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This kind of edits that Lotje does to art articles are a huge problem and I wonder where can I stop this but if it will continue I am going to report it. Hafspajen (talk) 17:50, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See here Mandarax [1] reverting her removals. Previous discussions, both Mandarax page and User:Sagaciousphil page.

Per WP:IG: ON English Wikipedia the galleries are NOT discouraged for quite a while. Like since 2009. Please see also this discussion here, Talk:Charles Marion Russell. It is standard actually to have galleries, so please don't remove them. Images in the gallery collectively do have encyclopedic value and add to the reader's understanding of the subject. Galleries are not discouraged. See also Rembrandt, just look at that gallery. The same for using image size larger than thumb, exception from the general rule is most art and art related articles that they do fall into this category. Hafspajen (talk) 18:08, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It is sad, rules to change all the time, difficult for me to keep up, but what a heck!

Lotje (talk) 19:40, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The editors who put together this page in 2014 had good reason for including extensive illustrations. To the meager extent that he has been known in the West, Čiurlionis was known primarily as a composer; as an artist, not much. Our presentation is designed to correct that deficiency, and to show how his visionary artistic style complements his ethereal music. Sca (talk) 21:23, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Also this edit here, on a Dutch article... from 10 March 2015 with edit notice - ^{(can anyone stop Haspajen with his stupid galleries? cant he contribute in positive manner by writing something intelligent?)} - well, I know only about two people currently agains galleries, and serial-removing galleries -one is Lotje, a Dutch editor, who we had this discussion a couple of times and she still removes them when she can, the other is a French guy. Hafspajen (talk) 23:27, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If more galleries are going to be removed I will take this to ANI. Hafspajen (talk) 23:33, 15 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Kings' Fairy Tale, a painting by the Lithuanian painter, composer, and writer Mikalojus Konstantinas Čiurlionis (1875–1911) completed in 1908–1909. During his lifetime, Čiurlionis created about 300 paintings, composed about 400 pieces of music, and wrote many literary works and poems. Considered representative of the fin de siècle epoch, he contributed to the symbolism and Art Nouveau movements.Painting: Mikalojus Konstantinas Čiurlionis

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A Day (1904), a painting by the Lithuanian artist and composer Mikalojus Konstantinas Čiurlionis (1875–1911). Čiurlionis contributed to symbolism and Art Nouveau and was representative of the fin de siècle epoch. He has been considered a pioneer of abstract art in Europe. During his short life, he composed about 400 pieces of music and created about 300 paintings. The majority of his paintings are held by the M. K. Čiurlionis National Art Museum in Kaunas, Lithuania.Painting: Mikalojus Konstantinas Čiurlionis

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Musical works on Spotify

Are all those in-line links to Spotify really allowed?? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:23, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

To add to article

To add to this article: at least a few words describing the general style of this composer's music. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 01:48, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Czurlanis

I see no reliable references that mention this surname. Please do not remove citations tag until a reference is provided. Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 20:20, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Marcelus in his reverting edit summary wrote "not needed here, in the article it's explained that he was born into Polish family" - Well, he was NOT born to Polish family. What is more, at this time the area was part of the Russian Empire and under enforced Russification. So whatever official birth documents he had, they were in Russian. Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 20:28, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's the name he was using in Polish, and that's how Poles were calling him: see Marcelus (talk) 23:26, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please add this reference to the article. Why it so hard to follow the rules? Sheesh!Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 23:58, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need for thousands of reference to easily verifable facts, especially in the lead Marcelus (talk) 07:37, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Čiurlionis was a Lithuanian but a native Polish speaker so I do not see why you need a ref. Merangs (talk) 22:53, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You don't see, but I do see. We cannot have unreferenced information in Wikipedia. Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 23:58, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also Czurlanis in not a Polish version from Lithuanian and it does not sound Polish at all, but it is a calque from Russian Чурлянис . Polish construction would be Czurlon, like Giedraitis -> Giedroyć.

Since it is a nontrivial rendering change of a rare name, it does require a reference. Lokys dar Vienas (talk) 00:08, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It's not a calque of Russian. There is a plenty Polish-Lithuanian names that sounds like this: Staniszkis, Januszajtis and so on Marcelus (talk) 07:42, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

3O Response: Please add the reference. Per WP:Verifiability, any material that is challenged needs an inline citation to a reliable source. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 00:40, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Russian name

@Cukrakalnis So you are planning to add Russian name to every single Lithuanian, Polish, Georgian etc. figure that was born in Russian Empire? Do you think that's reasonable? I only added Polish version of Čiurlionis names because he was born in a Polish-speaking family and was using that name in his youth. That's literally in every single biography of his, he only later learned Lithuanian etc. Marcelus (talk) 16:15, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you imagining things that no one ever said? I never said that I planned to add a russified name to all ethnically non-Russian citizens of the Russian Empire. However, adding such names is useful in helping people to find more information about that person in that other language. I don't understand why you are telling me why you added his polonized name to this article, because I was not removing it from the WP:LEDE. I don't understand why you are making such a big deal out of it. Cukrakalnis (talk) 16:31, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Cukrakalnis I already said what I think: you are actively trying to hide the Polish name Čiurlionis. And don't say you didn't remove it from the lead because you did that, pushing it down to the references Marcelus (talk) 17:09, 9 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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	:Why are you imagining things that no one ever said? I never said that I planned to add a russified name to all ethnically non-Russian citizens of the Russian Empire. However, adding such names is useful in helping people to find more information about that person in that other language. I don't understand why you are telling me why you added his polonized name to this article, because I was not removing it from the [[WP:LEDE]]. I don't understand why you are making such a big deal out of it. [[User:Cukrakalnis\|Cukrakalnis]] ([[User talk:Cukrakalnis\|talk]]) 16:31, 9 January 2023 (UTC)		:Why are you imagining things that no one ever said? I never said that I planned to add a russified name to all ethnically non-Russian citizens of the Russian Empire. However, adding such names is useful in helping people to find more information about that person in that other language. I don't understand why you are telling me why you added his polonized name to this article, because I was not removing it from the [[WP:LEDE]]. I don't understand why you are making such a big deal out of it. [[User:Cukrakalnis\|Cukrakalnis]] ([[User talk:Cukrakalnis\|talk]]) 16:31, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
			::[[User:Cukrakalnis\|@Cukrakalnis]] I already said what I think: you are actively trying to hide the Polish name Čiurlionis. And don't say you didn't remove it from the lead because you did that, pushing it down to the references [[User:Marcelus\|Marcelus]] ([[User talk:Marcelus\|talk]]) 17:09, 9 January 2023 (UTC)