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When you find (if, you find) something is not right or inaccurate or not as per editing policies, the best practice is to improve it if you can rather than deleting salvageable text. '''You chose not to respond or engage in discussion on the article talk page but rather go on with your deletion spree''' as seen on 4 January 2023! |
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If you think that article content does not belong to a particular section, then it is logical to move it appropriately or create a new section if it is not already present. But you have rather deleted the whole content. This is not at all helpful. (Revision [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor&diff=1131573216&oldid=1131492568 1131573216], Rev [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor&diff=1131573703&oldid=1131573525 1131573703] and Rev [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor&diff=1131574137&oldid=1131573790 1131574137]) |
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If you write ''moving'' in the edit summary and in reality you are deleting the content, then this raises question mark on the good-faith assumption of your edits. (Revision [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor&diff=1131575633&oldid=1131574963 1131575633]) This may even be construed as vandalism! |
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How is mention of Uighur irrelevant? This project is in Xinjiang region. Uighurs belong to this region. There is a well known episode of how China treats them. CPEC risk assessment sees Taliban/terrorism as a potential threat. ISIS has openly declared its stand on this matter. China wants to put this extremist situation to an end by economic development of this Jihad ridden region. And you are deleting this very relevant content from the article? Why do you want to deprive a Wikipedia reader from knowing this perspective? (Revision [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor&diff=1131574963&oldid=1131574137 1131574963]) If content is poorly cited or any source is questionable then removal of added content is understandable. If you have noticed, all the content which you deleted (as mentioned above) were from Academic Journals authored by well educated Pakistani citizens from notable institutions. How it was irrelevant? Have you even tried to make note of the titles of the paper published? They all are regarding CPEC. All other content were sourced from Pakistani media, Chinese media and/or international well reputed media. '''You may not like it, but a fact is a fact.''' '''And it is always presented with citation to verifiable sources.''' |
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Earlier, this page did not even mention the word Uighur. Was it deliberate omission? The article did not say quantitatively how China is benefiting from this project. Why was this viewpoint left out? Why were the detailed info on Gwadar resident opposition and Baloch stance excluded? Why was economic implications and debt aspects were not given enough importance? Why was the impact of political fragility in Pakistan on the CPEC projects skipped from the article? Now that some balance in overall content of the article has been restored, why there is a blatant attempt to hide the facts? If you read the thread in article talk page, you will know that few days ago a vandal IP address was involved in massive content deletion in this article when new info was added. I am even suspicious of sock-puppeting!! |
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Being sympathetic to your position, requesting you that talking to other editors is not a mere formality, but an integral part of writing the encyclopedia. I am trying my best to maintain civility and avoid edit-warring. '''Please do not indulge in conspicuous acts of deletion and information suppression.''' |
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Instead of removing content from an article or reverting a new contribution, you can also consider: |
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* Improving grammar or more accurately represent the sources |
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* [[Wikipedia:FIXFIRST|Formatting or sourcing on the spot]] |
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* Correcting [[Wikipedia:Accuracy dispute|inaccuracies]], while keeping the rest of the content intact |
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* [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|Adding another point of view]] to the existing points of view to make the article more balanced |
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* <nowiki>Requesting a citation by adding the {{</nowiki>[[Template:Citation needed|citation needed]]<nowiki>}} tag, or adding any other </nowiki>[[Template:Inline cleanup tags|appropriate cleanup tags]] to content you cannot fix yourself |
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* Doing a quick [[Template:Find sources|search for sources]] and adding a citation yourself |
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Not mentioning anything on your previous experience in November 2022 visible on your talk page and '''anticipating there would be no need for further escalation, I hope the good sense prevails.''' [[User:Anand2202|Anand2202]] ([[User talk:Anand2202|talk]]) 05:24, 5 January 2023 (UTC) |
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Do read all of the November 2022 experience. It is not controversial at all as you're portraying it at an attempt to open a sock puppet investigation against me or getting me blocked without good reason. [[User:UserBk12|UserBk12]] ([[User talk:UserBk12#top|talk]]) 07:32, 5 January 2023 (UTC) |
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Not answering the rest since I've already replied to all of this on the talk page of the CPEC article [[User:UserBk12|UserBk12]] ([[User talk:UserBk12#top|talk]]) 07:33, 5 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:Your unabated deletions are disrupting the [[China–Pakistan Economic Corridor]] article. |
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:# A few sentences on historic background gives a reader the bigger picture which helps in understanding the current situation better. '''Your deletion of content sourced from a journal [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor&diff=1132020431&oldid=1132018343 here] deprives a reader from knowing the context.''' |
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:# It is observed that you delete the content in one edit and delete the citation in another. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor&diff=1132020833&oldid=1132020431 rev 1132020833] & [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor&diff=1132020972&oldid=1132020833 rev 1132020972] At one place you write "moving" as summary for deletion, and again mention "moved" for the next. Highly inefficient. Prima facie, the content size of both do no match. This has to stop! You hide your clandestine edits under the garb of simple summary like [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor&diff=1132805641&oldid=1132690432 moving in next edit] but in reality you are changing the content according to your own views while mentioning [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor&diff=1132806619&oldid=1132805641 Moved.] along with some farcical reasons. '''It appears that small and repeated multiple edits are your way of making it difficult to identify subtle alterations and undo the changes.''' |
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:# As seen [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor&diff=1132089090&oldid=1132068526 here], '''you prefer modification when it suits you.''' But, the same line of thinking is not evident [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor&diff=1130713574&oldid=1130712878 here] as well as [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor&diff=1132031171&oldid=1132020972 here], where you blatantly delete the content with absurd edit summary. '''You could have modified the sentence, but no! You selectively chose to delete the entire sentence!! Why? Just because YOU don't like it? It doesn't suit you? Very much obvious.''' |
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:# Your deletions at one place might wreck havoc on the further citations at another place in the article. '''You mention ''"Moved to challenges. Restoring references in next edit"'' in the edit summary [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor&diff=1132688900&oldid=1132688645 here] but you have very cleverly deleted the wikilinks to all those pages that doesn't suit you. This act of hidden vandalism''' (warned in earlier comment on 5 Jan mentioned above) '''is not going unnoticed.''' |
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:# '''Your deletion with edit summary [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=China%E2%80%93Pakistan_Economic_Corridor&diff=1132020833&oldid=1132020431 "irrelevant"] is laughable!''' The content you consciously removed from the article page says about the steps taken by Pakistan to deal with threats for this project. The verifiable cited source reads - ''Secret crackdown was started soon after Beijing alerted Pakistani authorities about gravity of threats to workers associated with Chinese projects in Pakistan which according to them prove tempting targets for multiple terrorist groups, operators of ETIM in particular last year. “Such operations are matter of sensitivity. The ETIM and its new allies, Baloch rebels included too, tried to assemble themselves near the CPEC’s routes — but we have almost eliminated ETIM bases on our soil,” one of security operators engaged to monitor the operation revealed. “Some four dozen Uighur fighters were operating in sensitive areas of GB, KP, Gwadar and Balochistan.'' '''Kindly explain your stand on its irrelevance to this article.''' Failure of satisfactory response might lead to consequences. |
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:Enough is enough. Stop your covert acts of suppressing the information in the article. Consider this as a warning. |
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:Indulging in same kind of disruptive edits and deletions makes you look like a repeat offender. PLEASE DO NOT PROVE THE OLD SAYING - "'''Give 'em enough rope, and they'll likely hang themselves.'''" [[User:Anand2202|Anand2202]] ([[User talk:Anand2202|talk]]) 11:29, 11 January 2023 (UTC) |
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Responded on the cpec talk page. |
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Also, trying to get me blocked just because you don't like my edits is a very lazy approach. You can just counter me by explaining why your edits deserve to be there and I'll leave them. This is the true spirit of WIKIPEDIA [[User:UserBk12|UserBk12]] ([[User talk:UserBk12#top|talk]]) 12:19, 11 January 2023 (UTC) |
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November 2022
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you add unsourced or poorly sourced material to Wikipedia, as you did at Pakistan. - Arjayay (talk) 11:30, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
How are the language percentages "unsourced" when I just corrected it and took the info from the demographics heading (which was sourced in the very same article)??? Wikipedia is usually full of "unsourced" info in lead of the article but referenced elsewhere in the body UserBk12 (talk) 13:32, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
. Ad Orientem (talk) 17:55, 28 November 2022 (UTC)Axedd (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
User Aman.kumar.goel reported me claiming I had been "warned" before for my edits, which is not true since I had been warned only for leaving out references in other articles. He reported me for my edits on the CPEC article which was already marked as too lengthy which is why I cut down its length by moving paragraphs in the body and removing commentary which did not read like an encyclopedia. I made over 30 edits and explained in most WHY I was editing them. He reverted all my edits claiming I did not "explain" my edits (not true). I reverted his edit for clear vandalism and edit warring without providing solid reasons. He also claimed ALL of my edits are disruptive which is not true. UserBk12 (talk) 18:13, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
Decline reason:
You received numerous warnings, which you read and removed from your talk page numerous times. Did you think we couldn't see the history of your talk page? Yamla (talk) 18:27, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
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I received ONE warning for leaving out a reference in article about Kashmir's population according to the recent census. (Which I edited again with a reference)
The second warning was ALSO from the same admin previously for leaving out a reference in a Pakistan article for language distribution. This time the source already existed in the body of the article which is why I didn't put a reference. The second warning was also for "unsourced" editing.
I was blocked completely for different reasons on the CPEC article because the edit warring user did not bother to read explanations in most of my 30 + edits and reverted EVERYTHING. I reverted back because I believe it is unfair to claim I didn't leave reasons for my edits and reported me for ONLY disruptive editing when he was the one actually being distruptive? UserBk12 (talk) 18:34, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- Fully 40% of your edits have been deleted. Most of those on a highly promotional draft. The broad history of your editing does not lend itself to favorable view of your appeal. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:41, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
How is that relevant on the CPEC article edits and unfair blocking? I have been editing constructively for 2 years after that the trial and error from the early days of Wikipedia. Why never block me from the start and judge ALL of my 600+ edits? Judging on this particular article is not fair. UserBk12 (talk) 18:45, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- I did not block you on the basis of any specific edit or article. I blocked you on the basis of your broad history. Convince me that you want to contribute constructively, will avoid promotional editing and understand the importance of properly citing claims of fact. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:52, 28 November 2022 (UTC)-Ad Orientem (talk) 18:52, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
I do edit constructively which is why I've went over a year without a warning. Just check my edit history. I'm currently just interested in grammar correcting/sentence structuring, correcting vandalism and editing out incorrect info in the articles of my interest/or random ones I come across most of the time. The first promotional draft I made was regrettable and was made when I was not aware of Wikipedia's policies and decorum. After it was gone, I only started editing as a hobby.
I take warning very seriously. I responded to the first block warning for unsourced content by editing a reference. The second warning for unsourced content was not expected since it WAS sourced.
I should've received a warning for "distruptive" editing at least as claimed by the user who reported me so I could get a chance to correct my self.
I am an avid Wikipedia article reader now and have tried my best to correct and add to articles constructively. Kindly make the block temporary at least since I did not receive a relevant warning for being blocked as claimed the the user who reported me. This was very unexpected. UserBk12 (talk) 19:23, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- Alright. I am going to unblock you per WP:ROPE. Be very careful in your editing going forward. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:29, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
- You have been unblocked. -Ad Orientem (talk) 19:31, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
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One (explained) revert is no big deal. I am aware of the 3 revert policy Uzek (talk) 10:16, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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Got it! Thanks Uzek (talk) 13:27, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
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Hi, please indent your comments using collins (:) they move them ahead in the margin for a better presentation flow, use as per the requirement and break them with {{od}} (which starts a new line with a flow-through arrow) if the margin gets too large. Your signs also need to be signed with four tildes (~) for others to follow through when they were made i.e. with time, currently they appear spearately with a line break and no time. Thanks. Gotitbro (talk) 11:59, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- Fine Uzek (talk) 13:56, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
Suspicious account
Hi Uzek I recently came across this account [1] they are restoring all the edits made by banned sock Prince of Roblox under the guise of reverting Satrar the original edits were made by the Roblox socks and this new account comes along to restore it with its only 12 days old and is already familiar with policy it's quite obvious it's a sock of Roblox please can you report? 119.160.96.33 (talk) 06:22, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- [2] both ValidYattoo and BomaiyukBatt are editing food related articles adding pro Indian pov to Kulfi this is obviously the same account! Use this in the spi report if you can. 119.160.96.33 (talk) 06:33, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Here is some more evidence the article on doodh pati [3] the Usual pattern of removing Pakistan and claiming the drink as Indian: [4] then he uses his other sock account to edit the same page again: [5] both accounts can be found on several articles with the same pro India pov such as the article on Kulfi has been completely vandalised and turned pro India. Its so obvious they are both the same user. 119.160.96.33 (talk) 10:39, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- [2] both ValidYattoo and BomaiyukBatt are editing food related articles adding pro Indian pov to Kulfi this is obviously the same account! Use this in the spi report if you can. 119.160.96.33 (talk) 06:33, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- IP, I'm not familiar much with this account's overall editing behaviour. Do recall coming across them once on the Kalash people article then reverting some of their subsequent problematic edits, until someone else reported them.
- Think you're probably right as they do appear to have restored [6] an edit I reverted previously.
- They have now been reported by another editor. Uzek (talk) 12:32, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi Uzek thanks for responding Uzek but the BomaiyukBatt account has not been added to the suspected sock puppet list on the spi case I am 100% sure that BomaiyukBatt is a sock of Prince of Roblox as explained above if you add it to suspected sock puppets list we can nip this in the bud quickly otherwise it will turn into a sleeper account for Prince of Roblox to use and pov push with. 119.160.96.33 (talk) 14:00, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- They have now been reported by another editor. Uzek (talk) 12:32, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
- Just checked up on them, they're now blocked. Uzek (talk) 00:56, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
Muhajir (Pakistan)
Hi, I noticed you added a disputed tag to Muhajir (Pakistan), can you please add a description of the dispute to talk page so other wikipedians can know about the dispute. FLA-ALP-1 (talk) 12:44, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- Sure. It was based on the current dispute on the talk page and recent edit wars regarding content.
- Added the tag because the article has too many contradictions and ambiguous content (though all sourced). Uzek (talk) 15:16, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
- You can remove the tag once the dispute is over though. Uzek (talk) 15:17, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
The yeuzhi/ kushan link . pashtuns
Hi, Why the very important chengs Analysis plotemys and strabos description was removed? any reason? Like hephtalites there should be seperate topic and it (there was another scholars description too on this) should be reposted, i saw you were very active there so i wrote you. You can find it back in history section or maybe you had scene the article. Thats very important. Thank you! 92.220.51.19 (talk) 18:05, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- User:92.220.51.19 Don't know, I didn't remove it. You should go back to previous revisions and point out when it was removed and was present in the article on its talk page (with reliable references), maybe someone will readd it for you. Uzek (talk) 18:25, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi again.
- Sorry i searched alot the history section but was not lucky enough to find it. But i have an old version of the page where you can read it.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pashtuns&oldid=113
- Here is Both plotemys and strabos description and there analysis by josepph marquart and johnny cheung. I hope you re write it in a different section in a way you see it better. thank you. 92.220.51.19 (talk) 19:14, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- User:92.220.51.19 Opened the link and it says: "The revision #113 of the page named "Pashtuns" does not exist.
- This is usually caused by following an outdated history link to a page that has been deleted. Details can be found in the deletion log."
- From which year is this? If it's not recoverable, you would have to make an edit request and drop links to reliable references that speaks of such content on the talk page of the article, it will get re added. Uzek (talk) 19:38, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- Hi you can check 1st february page it is present in that date. Thank you. 92.220.51.19 (talk) 20:06, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- From which year is this? If it's not recoverable, you would have to make an edit request and drop links to reliable references that speaks of such content on the talk page of the article, it will get re added. Uzek (talk) 19:38, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
- User:92.220.51.19 Just checked. The content has been moved from history to the "Etymology" section. Not deleted. Uzek (talk) 20:35, 6 March 2023 (UTC)