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== The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXXIV (December 2008) ==
== The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXXIV (December 2008) ==
The '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Outreach/Newsletter December 2008|December 2008 issue]]''' of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.<br /><small>This has been an automated delivery by [[User:BrownBot|BrownBot]] ([[User talk:BrownBot|talk]]) 04:40, 10 January 2009 (UTC)</small>
The '''[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Outreach/Newsletter December 2008|December 2008 issue]]''' of the Military history WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you.<br /><small>This has been an automated delivery by [[User:BrownBot|BrownBot]] ([[User talk:BrownBot|talk]]) 04:40, 10 January 2009 (UTC)</small>

== Language ==

By removing it. Sincerely. [[User:3rdAlcove|3rdAlcove]] ([[User talk:3rdAlcove|talk]]) 08:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

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To promote misconception is not to serve history. History is concerned with the objective interpretation of events and the actions of people, not furthering the propagation of myth or political agenda.

The one who is right is the one with the facts, not the one with the most popular opinion - Warren Buffet.

Original Welcome

Welcome!

Hello, Romaioi, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome!

I'm answering your reply here:
Thank you for your contributions to Roman Empire, that article truly needs additional references. And, yes, some of the references in there do need to be fixed. The proper way of using references on Wikipedia is described here. It might look overwhelming, but once you get used to those templates they actually make editing easier and the articles more reliable. Drop a note on my talk page if you need any help.
I don't claim to know a lot about the Roman civilisation (though I did study their architecture for a few years), but I do agree the traditional description of the Romans is simplistic (as is the traditional description of Ancient Greek civilisation).
Regarding your user name, you are free to choose virtually any name you want. The recommendation to remain anonymous is mostly a concern for your own privacy. If you want to, you can describe yourself on your user page, but that's up to you.
Again, let me know if I can help you in any way
/ Raven in Orbit (t | c) 15:02, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks very much Raven. Sorry for the inconsitencies in my referencing. I was not intending to go into the "detail" that I did as I knew I would need my books to refer to - most of the ones I need are in storage. Its a shame about the simplicity seeing that it is based on scholarship that is now over a hundred years old. So much has been learned since then yet much of the literature available to the public continues to paint the old picture. The manner in which the other cultures are generally neglected adds to the dissappointment. On the whole though, that Roman empire article is quite goood. In fact I have been rather impressed with the degree of detail, and scope of coverage in Wikipedia in general. It is proving quite a success.
Thanks also for the offers of assistance and the tip on the tilda's. I read about them but didn't catch on until your reply.
I hope to be able to contribute more soon.
Best wishes,
Romaioi (talk) 15:36, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

cite template

Fixed your ref problem at aluminium oxide by avoiding the cite template. See Wikipedia:Citation templates for usage - specifically Template:Cite paper. Vsmith (talk) 12:07, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much Vsmith. Much appreciated. Romaioi (talk)


Shannara

Hi! I've seen you editing Shannara related articles here on Wikipedia, and so I would like to invite you to join the Shannara task force, an effort by Wikipedians to improve the series' coverage on this encyclopedia. Please consider signing up here and helping us out. Thank you in advance!

-talk- the_ed17 -contribs- 17:10, 10 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for the invite. I think will. Though I have only read the Genesis trilogy. I'm not great at plots etc, history, science and economics are more my strength, but I'll help where I can. Romaioi (talk) 02:05, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Someone else to help! Yay! If you have a question or anything, feel free to leave me a message. I've only read up to Armageddon's Children (Not the Word and Void series either... And, if nothing else, you have to read the The Elfstones of Shannara—it's Brooks' best novel!!!
For an example of a good Shannara article (actually, the only one...), see The Sword of Shannara. -talk- the_ed17 -contribs- 03:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Subheadings

Also, try to remember to use subheadings in those plot summaries, like the one this message is under. Cheers! -talk- the_ed17 -contribs- 03:31, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, can you improve this section? I don't know much about these demons, having not read most of those prequel novels... Thanks, -talk- the_ed17 -contribs- 04:00, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I'll have a go. Please don't think I have given up if you don't see an entry from me for a while. I typically don't always log in frequently and can sometimes only contribute in spurts - life is gets busier with time. But I'll keep at it. P.S. I like your quite at the top of your user page. Very relevant. Romaioi (talk) 16:10, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine. Thanks for helping! Cheers, -talk- the_ed17 -contribs- 17:10, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and I like my quote too. =D I truly believe it, to--see this! If you ever have a question, feel free too ask. Cheers! -talk- the_ed17 -contribs- 17:45, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you have seen what I have been going through. Thanks for your comments there. Romaioi (talk) 15:35, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I did...and you're welcome. -talk- the_ed17 -contribs- 21:18, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the Novels WikiProject

Hi, and welcome to the Novels WikiProject! As you may have guessed, we're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to fiction books often referred to as "Novels".

A few features that you might find helpful:

There are a variety of interesting things to do within the project; you're free to participate however much—or little—you like:

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask one of the members, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We look forward to seeing you around! Liveste (talkedits) 02:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Milhist!

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - October 2008

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The Novels WikiProject Newsletter
Issue 27 - October 2008
Project news
Member news
Task force news
Member in Focus
  • Yllosubmarine (talk · contribs) has been a member of the Novels WikiProject for nearly two years, and a coordinator since May. Aside from her work outside the project (including four FAs and six GAs in various areas), she has been active in the Project's Assessment and Peer Review departments. She hopes to continue in these roles as well as help encourage more activity and community research within the Project. With the upcoming coordinator election, she hopes that others will volunteer to become more active in their roles as Project members so that we can continue to provide quality articles to the readers of this encyclopedia.
María (habla conmigo)
Current debates
From the Outreach Department

On the advice of Coordinator Maria, the newsletter is now only distributed to active listed members of the Novels Project. A new section has started with this issue called 'In Focus', which will feature various members and task forces each month.

Members are requested to post any news items to the Tip Line (found above) to make sure it reaches the next newsletter before closing date, which is always the last day of the preceding month. Any task force news should be added by the coordinator of that task force. Having news items helps inform members of what is happening at the various task forces and so can be a way of encouraging more membership and participation.

Editors are required to assist with the newsletter for Task Force News and Peer Reviews & Assessments News, which involves the gathering of news items from the main project and the various task forces. These positions may be applied for at the Job Centre.

Boylo (talk), Editor

Collaboration of the Month
Newsletter challenge

Our last newsletter's challenge Griffin's Daughter was uncompleted.

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXXI (September 2008)

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External linking

I can't any advantage in linking the sites you included at Perth, Western Australia, so I reverted your edit. This action is, I contend, in accord with guidelines at WP:External links. If you disagree after reading that link, please explain how they can be viewed as prescribed links 'and not those which are proscribed. They would seem to only be portals to commercial sites, and do not give the reader any additional or encyclopaedic information. cygnis insignis 15:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problems - your explanation in the edit summary would have sufficed. Romaioi (talk) 15:43, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Then please pardon my hammering the point. One never knows what guidelines are known to other editors, I thought it reasonable to suppose you were unaware of these. It is a common error among newer users, thus my rv w/ AGF disclaimer. Regards, cygnis insignis 15:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Don't get me wrong. What you said was absolutely fine. I was just pointing out that your explanation in the edit summary was good enough for me.Romaioi (talk) 12:00, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your courtesy. Well met and all that. cygnis insignis 17:52, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If you want to be consistent, then you should delete the tourism beureau link on the Western Australia page. I added the tourism link to the Perth article after seeing that. Romaioi (talk) 15:52, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed it now. cygnis insignis 16:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Different set of rules for different users

Hi, Romaioi. I have read your talkpage and I see that you have suffered a very sad experience, similar to the one that has banned me and others. I am user:Marygiove and I totally agree with you about what you write in your "special archive". At least you can console yourself thinking that you now are not banned, while others like me have no such a "luck". My only crime? To live in the metropolitan area of Miami (nearly 3 million people!) and so my IP is similar to the one of other italian users banned from wikipedia and who live here, like user:Brunodam and user:Cherso. Anyway, as you wrote in your "MFD Link", it is clear that Jimbo's rules are not followed and that there are "different set of rules for different users", specially if there are nationalistic groups (like some Croats who hate Italians) that pressure some admins to accept ONLY their POV on issues about the croatian Dalmatia. I don't know if you are able to read italian, but may be you would be interested in accessing this website ( brunodam.blog.kataweb.it/2008/10/18/altri-commenti-sul-diniego-dellasilo-di-zara/), where some italians name you as an example of what is "rotten" in the english wikipedia about impartiality of some admins dealing with italians and croats.

BTW, do you know that all the mess you have gone trough was started by one of the group of the nationalistic yugoslavians, named user:AlasdairGreen27? He promoted the ban (with another of the group named Direktor) of an article about the "Italian mare nostrum" written by Brunodam, and when you copied some sections of it in another article he believed you were Brunodam (or GiovanniGiove or Pio). In the section "It is Bruno " you can easily read that Noclador is convinced by this Alasdair that Brunodam is Romiaoi and/or others (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:AlasdairGreen27&diff=prev&oldid=230773625#It.27s_Bruno_:-.29). In other words, the astute Alasdair throwed the stone and then waited for Noclador to do all the fighting for him! This trick has been done by the croat group even other times with other persons: it is a trick used many times by the Tito propaganda agents and modelled from the Stalin KGB. And it seems to work well, seeing the fight that has happened between you and Noclador. Sincerely. Marygiove. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.153.154.200 (talk) 21:46, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You know.....just when Romaioi get away from all things involving sockpuppetry, you come along.... How about you create a new account and just stay away from anything resembling the article/topic that got you blocked/identified/accused as a sockpuppet? Then no one will know that you have another account who is a blocked user... As long as you are not banned, I think that a constructive contributor will not get booted, no matter what happened with their previous account (all of this is not assuming that you are a sockpuppet, by the way...). —Ed 17 for President Vote for Ed 21:58, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just a suggestion but you might want to file a check user request if someone is trying to get you involved in sockpuppetry. Welcome back. Justin talk 15:58, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Hi, I just gotten back on line to find that this issue keeps following me.

I appreciate the gist of what you are saying concerning the partisan positions in some articles. I see it all the time. Frankly, I do not see why it has to be, nor do I have any respect for those who adopt partisan positions and provide no factual basis for it. From my point of view, history is just that, history. Its purpose is to serve as an OBJECTIVE record of events, with the view to help all societies learn from our past mistakes. From the perspective of documenting, it does not matter who did what to whom. All that matters is that we get the story right and that we learn. (I am highly skeptical that society will learn anyway.) For my part, I predominantly only contribute information that can be supported with a verifiable citation. And where I am sure of information but cannot find the citation I will state that a citation is needed (or I won't add it, it depends). This is what Wikipedia asks us to do as contributors.......yet I see so many occurrances where this is not followed.

I assume, based on what you refer too, your pet subject is that of the Italian people’s historical legacy in the eastern Adriatic, and how they are "victimized". I am well aware that Italians have been "victims" over the past view centuries in the region. HOWEVER, so have the people of the other cultures in the region. More often than not, they were not so much victims of the adjacent people, but more so the authorities of all the respective regimes. Of all the regimes, the Italians (namely the fascists), were not on the scene with any major authority for any great length of time. But, irrespective of their intentions, they were not innocent in the negative effect they had on the civilians of the region (and they ultimately did more damage to their own people). It was more a case of being victims of the social forces of the times, and such events are not isolated to the region in question. In my opinion, you and the user’s you “hate” have no reason to be at loggerheads on the issue – you probably have more in common that you realize.

As to AlasdairGreen27...I do not know the full history between you…..but, in my case he apologized for getting it wrong (when he did not have to – as he had little to do with my case). So I do not agree with your perspective on AlasdairGreen27. In my case the person who treated me with the utmost contempt, underhanded dishonesty and disrespect happens to be an Italian!! ....But one idiot does not influence me to ill-judge the rest.

And I must ask, why do you think I would be so naive as to act on your accusations against others with no substantiatable proof? We have accusations of sockpuppetry in common, but when I was being slandered and martyred, none of the supposed "socks" spoke out to clarify on my behalf, but instead, made things worse for me.

With all due respect, your wording (or shall I say, story line) sounds similar to that of Brunodam’s (here). I am not saying that you and he are the same, but there are similarities.... If you are not a sock (I am assuming you are not), you can take it to higher authorities to have your case heard. Otherwise, The Ed gave a good suggestion.

The only thing I can agree on, at this stage, is that the policing has been too fierce and not properly researched. And I believe it would be more effective if it was more constructive. Sincerely, Romaioi (talk) 05:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Romaioi! You're back! How's life been treating you? —Ed 17 for President Vote for Ed 21:46, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello The_Ed17. I am good, thank you. Very busy though. Just got through the bulk of moving house...till plenty to do there....what a mission when you try to fit that in with everything else. Hows things? For a second I thought that message on your page about you being up for deletion was serious.....I was ready to start batting for you. Romaioi (talk) 08:34, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ugh. Moving? I had to do a down-sized version of that when I came here to college...but that was nothing like what you are doing now... =/
Things are ok. A little wiki-burned out, but I can't complain too much. :) No, I'm not up for actual deletion, it's just La Pianista deciding to be dumb funny. :D :D :D :D So what did I do in retaliation? I nominated HER! =)Ed 17 for President Vote for Ed 15:42, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for your answer, Romaioi. Of course I did not want to push you to act against AlasdairGreen27: it is easy to understand such a naive possibility, don't you agree? I only wanted to show you that you were right when you stated that in wikipedia there are "different set of rules for different users" as you wrote, and that -if you think well about- even Noclador was pushed against you with the same tricky behaviour by this group of Slovenians and Croats. And this has happened with others forumers (see in the same example you did to me here). I wish you a wonderful experience with wikipedia, something that I will not be allowed to do (even if I have tried to contact "higher authorities to have my case heard"). One last commentary (of course, I will not contact you anymore): I am not Brunodam or Cherso even if we live in the same metropolitan area of Florida: we Italians write in similar way in english, especially if we have the same level of studies ( I mean:graduated) and come from the same area of Italy. Sincerely. Marygiove

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - November 2008

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The Novels WikiProject Newsletter
Issue 28 - November 2008
Member news
  • Coordinators election voting and question time is now open. Project members should vote for any candidates they wish to support by November 28 at the Coordinator Elections. Yllosubmarine, aka Maria, has decided not to be reappointed, her work as sole Coordinator since the last elections in May is highly appreciated by all members of the project.
  • The Novels Project now has 88 active members.
  • 18 positions remain unfilled at the Job Centre. Members who are active project contributors are encouraged to apply even if they can only do a position for a short time.
  • Ladywitchthought has taken on the position of coordinator for the "Lemony Snicket task force".
Project news

- Contributors are the_ed17, Maclean25 & Captain-tucker (who searched the archives).

Task force and related news
– Position of editor for 'Task force news' is still available at the Job Centre.
Peer review and assessment news
the_ed17 (talk), Editor – Peer review and assessment news
Member in Focus
  • Hi, I have been around this project for quite some time now. Bit of a hiatus earlier this year, but back now just contributing. The Novels WikiProject wasn't started by me but my interest in the subject initially attracted me to what was here. It has developed substantially in the last few years and now takes in all forms of Narrative Prose Fiction within its scope. We are about the content not the format of the prose so WP:Books differs a little in that an implied format is entailed; also they can also focus more clearly on non-fiction. WP:Literature are the "new boys on the block" and are a little more focused on the "quality" aspects of literature, and again they have less emphasis on pure fiction and the prose aspect. Our biggest problem is to maintain a certain focus of interest across such a broad subject area and we need workers who can develop task forces, teams for assessment, teams for peer review and so much more. "So much to do, so little time, I'm late, I'm late, I'm late" to misquote from Alice in Wonderland.

Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk)

Current debates
  • The featured list Narnian timeline has been nominated for removal. You can comment here. The Narnian timeline is a featured list, which means it has been identified as one of the best lists produced by the Wikipedia community.
Novel related news
From the Outreach Department

As I shall be leaving Wikipedia, this will be my last newsletter. Any member who is interested in taking over the role of editor can sign up for the position at the Job Centre.

Over the last month I have been working on a portal for our project. So am happy to announce that the Novels Portal is now up and running.

Boylo (talk), Editor

Boylo:
Thank you for getting this newsletter back on its feet and going again. No Boylo equals no Novels Portal...heck, without you, we wouldn't have had a newsletter for these past months...so, for all of the members of the Novels WikiProject, I want to thank you for the time and effort you have put into this project, and I wish you the best of luck in all of your future endeavors. Thanks, pal.
the_ed17 (talk)
Collaboration of the Month
  • This month's Collaboration has been selected by popular vote and is : Novel.
    As this is our Project's premier article, all members are asked to assist.
    The next collaboration is due for selection on 21 November, 2008 so cast your vote.
Newsletter challenge

Our last newsletter's challenge The Cater Street Hangman was uncompleted.

  • The first person to start the article is mentioned in the next newsletter. This month's article is Mindplayers by science fiction author Pat Cadigan.
Announcements and open tasks
Open tasks logo WikiProject Novels • (inc. novellas, novelettes & short stories)
Announcements and open tasks

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This newsletter was automatically delivered by TinucherianBot (talk) 05:28, 3 November 2008 (UTC) [reply]

Hello, Romaioi. You have new messages at The ed17's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

If you are watching my page, just tell me and I'll stop leaving these. :) Also, you don't have to comment them out with <!-- --> tags if you don't want—you can just remove them! Cheers, —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 17:23, 13 November 2008 (UTC) [reply]

I don't mind either way mate. But yes, I checked your page. I was hoping you would surprise them all in the presidential race. ;-)Romaioi (talk) 13:32, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, I got zero votes - a bona-fide perennial candidate! :D —Ed 17 (Talk / Contribs) 19:31, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXXII (October 2008)

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Re:Mary

Hi Romaioi, thanks for your note. I wasn't aware of the thread on your talkpage. User:Marygiove is Bruno wearing a rather flimsy costume. See [1] and then Special:Contributions/4.231.207.47 and Special:Contributions/4.231.207.226. Thanks again ;-) AlasdairGreen27 (talk) 14:22, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXXIII (November 2008)

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Merging

I've replied over at User talk:EdJohnston#Page merge. EdJohnston (talk) 05:45, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXXIV (December 2008)

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Language

By removing it. Sincerely. 3rdAlcove (talk) 08:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]